Product Pricing, How would you handle this

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So I have an eCommerce store that i'm building out and the items range from $40 to over $700. On the higher end items, I can compete really well on price on the top 4-5 other stores that rank for the item, but here's where it gets confusing. There is one person on eBay just giving this item away. (relatively speaking)

For example, I have an item that has an MSRP of $750 and a cost of $375. The top 5 websites that are selling this item have priced them at $750, $750, $750, $698, $598. I have been setting my pricing at near the bottom and include free shipping leaving me about $200 after shipping in profit. The guy on eBay is selling the same item for about $489, so if I match his pricing, I'll still have about $90 profit after shipping.

How would you set your pricing?

I've also thought of setting up live chat with a banner on ever page saying something like, "see this item priced lower somewhere, we'll match the price." Let us know by Live Chat.
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Jonbones
    I wouldn't bother trying to match a price on ebay, unless that is where you are trying to sell the products.

    Auction sites can be a crap shoot, the cheap items tend to come and go pretty quickly.

    He may be the son of the primary manufacturer, or has a sweet deal through a supplier, but I wouldn't consider it your direct competition since you are an ecommerce site--compete with the other ecommerce sites, don't worry about fleabay
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    • Profile picture of the author york
      I would set up tiered pricing, and our software can do this for you, basically it provides the ability to use a specific formula for prices in each separate price range you set.

      So, you can set it so that you make ie: 10% profit on lower end items and 30% profit on higher end, but that is just an example, you can set it to do whatever you want, and it will be done automatically at a scheduled time, or instantly whatever you like.

      Hope this helps!
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  • Take your wholesale price, multiply it by 1.35 (for a 35 percent markup if it's a dropship product)

    Then add the shipping price, then add the dropship fee.

    That is the price you charge for the product

    HOWEVER - you need to know if that price is even COMPETITIVE. One thing you need to do BEFORE you even build a website is find the price items are SELLING for, and to see if the formula above fits BETWEEN the highest and the lowest RANGE of prices.

    If your supplier gives you pricing of the product that fits BETWEEN the retail prices using that formula, then the supplier has competitive prices. If not? You need to negotiate lower.

    Basically take the model number of the product (found in the wholesale price list) and Google it. Take the top 10 results for the pricing range)

    If they won't negotiate? Move on, you cannot be competitive.

    There is no reason to build a website and 2 years later wonder why you've never made a sale!

    Don't take the MSRP's word for it. Take the MARKET WORTH's word for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author HighRiskJohn
      I'm beginning to think you didn't read my question...I said that i'm already beating the top 5 other ecommerce sites and my profit margin is well over your forumla.

      What i'm trying to find out is if someone takes the exact item # and Google's it, eBay will come up and there is someone with an eBay store selling this item for lower then anyone else. Should I be competing on price against him.

      Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post


      HOWEVER - you need to know if that price is even COMPETITIVE.
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    Oh, so you are just competing on price. Well then simply lower your price below the eBay person. Then they will lower their price, and then you will, and so on. And when you two are done the other guys will continue to make money because apparently they are doing something that allow them to do so.

    There are always outliers, especially on eBay. Learn what the high price folks are doing and replicate and improve on that. Forget the eBay guy, he's a fool (like most folks on that site who trash every market they enter).

    If everyone bought things at the lowest price we would all shop at Walmart. But we don't.
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    • Profile picture of the author kidz
      The price on your website does not necessarily need to compete with ebay pricing. I always have my sites compete with other ecommerce sites. If I choose to sell on ebay then I compete there by listing on ebay and pricing accordingly. Not uncommon to have 2 very different prices for each channel.
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      • Profile picture of the author Audarah
        Ignore ebay. Ebay really offers no perks other than the cost of what they are selling. You can't find customer service, you have no one to call ( sometimes if you are lucky), and you usually do not get free shipping.
        There are other ways to compete. Use those as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by HighRiskJohn View Post

    So I have an eCommerce store that i'm building out and the items range from $40 to over $700. On the higher end items, I can compete really well on price on the top 4-5 other stores that rank for the item, but here's where it gets confusing. There is one person on eBay just giving this item away. (relatively speaking)

    For example, I have an item that has an MSRP of $750 and a cost of $375. The top 5 websites that are selling this item have priced them at $750, $750, $750, $698, $598. I have been setting my pricing at near the bottom and include free shipping leaving me about $200 after shipping in profit. The guy on eBay is selling the same item for about $489, so if I match his pricing, I'll still have about $90 profit after shipping.

    How would you set your pricing?

    I've also thought of setting up live chat with a banner on ever page saying something like, "see this item priced lower somewhere, we'll match the price." Let us know by Live Chat.
    Ever heard the phrase "loss leader"? Wal-Mart is a great example of this, they actually LOSE money on hundreds of their products. Know why? Because (1) When was the last time you stood in line at Wal-mart and only bought one thing, and (2) It allows them to showcase items and continue their "always the lowest price" claim.

    They aren't always the lowest price, but by having so many items that are priced well below what other retailers can even BUY IT for, they earned that reputation and nobody notices that on many other items they're more expensive than their competitors.

    With that said, I'm not saying you should sell your products at a loss... BUT, how many more visitors would you get in the door, and how many other products would you be able to upsell them, if you were selling SOME of your products at cost? eBay sellers won't do that, and neither will most of your competitors.

    The same psychology that works for Wal-Mart can work for you. Example: Some guy wants a new cell phone, and "everyone" has it for $50 or more. You have it for $38 and he finds you... it is now ingrained in his mind that you "have the best prices". So when you show him other upsells and related products, and he sees something else he needs that's reasonably priced, he will add that item to the cart WITHOUT doing any other further research.

    Some people will only buy the one item - and that's fine too, because although you didn't make any money on that sale, you were able to move some product and get a free lead. You have his email and his address... you can sell something to that guy again later.
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    • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
      You are doing exactly the right thing. As others have suggested, ignore eBay. Compete against the eCommerce stores only - particularly the handful that are at the top of the search results for that product.
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  • Profile picture of the author GetExperienced
    You know, this whole discussion frustrates me.

    Why?

    Because this is the reason there is little money to be made with independent online stores.

    The bottom line is this.

    If you want to go compete with Ebay, then go sell on Ebay. Because Ebay is making the money from the seller. They are nothing but a marketplace at this point (as is Amazon).

    I see everyday guys come and go "selling at their lowest price" in which at the end of the day they have enough money to buy a small bag of rice.

    These are called very bad businessmen.


    Just because you see sales, does not mean that there is profit.

    And PROFIT, is what will keep you in business, and your business moving in a forward growth pattern. (Nevermind even paying you perhaps.)


    I have close friends in my distribution circles that tell me how some of these guys "open really strong", and then they run with the debt, and screw all the manufactures and wholesalers because at the end of the day they just realized that they weren't making any money.

    Guess what..people start businesses to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronrule
      Originally Posted by GetExperienced View Post

      You know, this whole discussion frustrates me.

      Why?

      Because this is the reason there is little money to be made with independent online stores.
      :rolleyes: I'll be sure to share your wisdom with my eCommerce clients who average $500k - $1 Million a year in sales from their online stores.

      Take a look at sites like thinkgeek.com or stupid.com ... these guys are KILLING IT offering nothing but low cost products, all of which can also be found on Amazon or eBay and usually for less money.

      What's the difference between their model and what most people I meet on this forum are doing? Presentation. That's it. People here seem to just want to just sign up with a drop shipper, import pics and descriptions, and run a store on auto-pilot, then wonder why they don't make any money. Minimal effort, minimal outcome. Check out those sites - unique photos, unique descriptions. You don't see the same manufacturer stock photography and crappy descriptions you see on all of the other drop shippers carrying the same products. You see a clever, humorous description written by a person on staff who PICKED that product.

      That's why they win, and the people who import huge categories from drop-shippers and call it a day lose.

      Making blanket statements that there is "little money to be made with online stores" is uninformed at best - you can do a lot more with your own eCommerce site than you'll ever do on eBay or Amazon if you take the time to do it right.
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      • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
        Great advice, RonRule!

        We've built more than 50 successful online stores and have sold several for six figures. We also have quite a few members who have left their jobs because they are making full time income online. Once you know what you are doing, success is practically inevitable and definitely repeatable. It takes real work, real effort and a certain level of stubbornness and patience to keep forging ahead, doing the right things.

        It's exactly what you say. You absolutely need to have a different user experience on your website with unique copy on every single page. Otherwise, what you have built is a big "so what?" Nothing compelling for customers; nothing worth indexing for the search engines. We stress this over and over in our course and despite that, when we do site reviews for people, the number one thing they just don't do is create anything unique (they get there eventually, though).

        If you are downloading the supplier's spreadsheet and uploading it to your website or have your site being updated automatically via a feed, 9 times out of ten (probably more), you will lose. When it's that easy, anybody can do it, which means everybody is doing it and virtually none of them are making a dime!
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      • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
        Wow. Good points. Thanks for sharing.
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