Start-up and already stuck

10 years ago

Hiya,

There are plenty of solutions available online to build your own professional and presentable eCommerce business. If you are planning to sell your products online then surely you can give website like wix or shopify a try. By the way they are paid but you can build you own site with little or no experience. Add you own products and check your own sales and your own payment gateway.

Once you are planning to scale it up then surely you might have enough budget to get it up and running in a large scale.

However, selling furniture and such items can be very hard. Make your business plan ready first and check with your budget and then distribute your budget on the site design with best possible presentation of your site and then start working on your marketing.

Hope this small tips might help you.

Kind regards,
ss

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onutzah

10 years ago

HI! Thank you so much for your post angshuy2k
Have a look at www.LineaMentis.com
Acces with test1, and test
we've done this work in joomla...
Of course there are still many details to correct...
I know selling furniture can be really hard, considering the competition .... but i always use furniture elements in my projects, so for me it is another way to offer a complete service to clients. In a transparent way of course, since they can see pricing!
Would you pass to another platform at this moment?

thanks again!

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DWolfe

10 years ago

No matter what platform you use, you will have a learning curve. If you switch to some of the other platforms you will need to pay for it. Same thing with custom themes.
Since you are using Joomla sell a few products than look to switch if you are tight on cash. You could scrap it and start with a free Word Press theme but than you will have to start over. Eventually you couldgo for one of the paid themes like Woocomerce. What platform works for one person here may not be the best for you. You have to answer that question your self.

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themdd

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DWolfe

No matter what platform you use, you will have a learning curve. If you switch to some of the other platforms you will need to pay for it. Same thing with custom themes.
Since you are using Joomla sell a few products than look to switch if you are tight on cash. You could scrap it and start with a free Word Press theme but than you will have to start over. Eventually you couldgo for one of the paid themes like Woocomerce. What platform works for one person here may not be the best for you. You have to answer that question your self.

Completely agree.

Regardless of the platform there is going to be a ton of learning. WooCommerce with WordPress is awesome. Super simple to use, plenty of options with plugins and free.

It's well worth spending $50-$100 on a Woo theme so you don't have the stress of compatibility issues and you'll also get pro support.

The most important thing is finding a platform you are comfortable with and sticking with it. There are other more important things to focus on - like driving qualified traffic ; )

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shopindexer

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onutzah

HI! Thank you so much for your post angshuy2k
Have a look at www.LineaMentis.com
Acces with test1, and test
we've done this work in joomla...
Of course there are still many details to correct...
I know selling furniture can be really hard, considering the competition .... but i always use furniture elements in my projects, so for me it is another way to offer a complete service to clients. In a transparent way of course, since they can see pricing!
Would you pass to another platform at this moment?

thanks again!

You are right to stick to the products you are familiar with because product would be the most important element in the project. I don't think I will change the platform if I were you because you only have less than 100 products. Joomla is also a good platform that has built in seo optimization.

Tip:
I think you should trust the programmer because he is the only one there for you at the current moment.
Second, if you plan to add more products to your site, change to magento.

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ErinWalsh

10 years ago

Sorry to hear there was difficulty with the web designer you hired on elance. Keep at it and work it hard. You will pass the learning curve and get the hang of it.

All the best to you!

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thank you both ErinWalsh and DWolfe.
I have been talking to different webmasters that told us magento is the best solution possible for ecommerce! they were trying to convince me that joomla was a mistake from the beginning.
But I'm tempted to stick to it, as if i was to defend all the work done.
In any case i am still researching... there are all sorts of plugins to add to joomla and since it's open source i guess it's really worth a try!
I'd wish for automated invoices and notifications for our suppliers generated, SSL certificates and also mail cript ....
maybe you could suggest what to watch out for...

oh, yes, i had another offer in Prestashop.

..... there's no easy way out of this

Wishing you all a wonderful weekend!

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amcg

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onutzah

Hello everyone
I am also trying to build an ecommerce website that sells design lighting and furniture. I am based in Milan but am a foreign architect so i am trying to get these products visible outside Italy.
I really dont know much about webprograming so i hired a webmaster 3 months ago on elance, and we have been trying to get along but...i feel he's not professional enough (not sure about presentation and website functions). He developed the website on Joomla and i have not understood much about how this stuff works

- i have just 50 products now, but i'm planning to add more soon, in any case i don't think over 100
- i've been told to pass on magento that would be the perfect solution for ecommerce, but i'm not quite sure considering the work already done(& i still have many descriptions to work out, translations, legal aspects, suppliers and logistics...)
- am looking for professional help since competition is really tough, but i have a low budget (i think i would prefer someone phisically here to help me sort out the many many issues that worry me)
Bottom line...
could you please advise me?
from your personal experience, would joomla do for my purpose?
could you estimate the costs of passing on another platform, easier to use and maybe more proefficient? wich one?
would you make these changes now, or would you fix things and launch the site on joomla and invest in webmarketing?

thank you! hopefully i'll get out of this "nightmare" safe and sound....

I'm not sure why you really want to build an ecommerce website on top of a CMS for a non-programmer like yourself. It's something you can learn (a CMS) to run but it still requires hosting, SSL etc.

For me, it's a no brainer starting out in ecommerce - use a hosted ecommerce platform i.e Shopify, BigCommerce etc. They have everything your CMS+Ecommerce hack can do, plus you don't have to worry about programming or paying a programmer.

Obviously you will want to migrate to your own hosted platform at some date however I always feel starting out should be about selling product as opposed to worrying about systems.

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Anisa A

10 years ago

Hi there,

Just like you, we started our own ecommerce website two months ago infact. I'm going through the learning curve now.

One thing I did was research the three big ecommerce platform providers, namely: Bigcommerce, Shopify and Volusion. The reason I didn't consider Magento was from what I've read of reviews etc, its too big a platform to maintain at the initial level, if you don't know website design, and neither have the time for it etc.

So we went ahead with Shopify. You can check out my website here: Tiny Pinky - Baby boutique for designer, organic, vintage baby clothing and baby accessories.

I have started with limited products, planning to increase overtime. I've used one of their free themes, customized it to my hearts content, which took a long long time haha but this is all constant work anyways.

And I'm happy to say that they have one of the best, if not the best customer service I've encountered anywhere. They work 24/7 on the phone with you.

Here's the thing, deciding on switching from Joomla is totally upto you as I'm not familiar with its user friendliness etc. But I've friends who use Bigcommerce who are now wishing they had started with Shopify instead.

If I was in your shoes, and I wanted to see the deal, I would go ahead and make trial accounts on both Bigcommerce and Shopify. Then take them for a ride

See which one feels more intuitive for you. Also, keep reading reviews, features etc on both. Volusion is a great platform as well, they just have the highest price point. They do boast that they have their own in house servers, rather than sharing servers with someone else (more uptime?) but I have been very happy with Shopify's service and 100% uptimes. So I couldn't justify the price point.

Good luck!

Edit: Oh, I just remembered why I chose Shopify over Bigcommerce too. Shopify gives you free SSL certificates as a part of its monthly fees. Bigcommerce charges for SSL.

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onutzah

10 years ago

thank you amcg!
truth is, i trusted the guy i hired to work on this he knew best

I just focused on the content(still loads to do) and i left the programmer to solve the architecture of the site..

thank you Anisa A!
Nice pinky version for your shop

I think people who buy design furniture or lighting fixtures are way more "choosy"
I'm selling stuff that costs more (some of my products are quite expensive)..
My strongpoint is the assistance i'm offering, using my experience as an architect/interior designer and my geographical position in Milan, since i'm targeting other UE countries.
The site's purpose is to present items and clearly show the pricing because i know there are many firms that give pricing only via email requests...it's time consuming and maybe one can find the pricing range is over budget. everybody ends up wasting precious time!
I know SSL certificates are offered by the hosting services (of course i'd pay for this) Also i understood mail cript is an issue but still, some kind of plugin or other solutions can be found for joomla platforms...correct me if i'm wrong!
My profit margins are really not that big, so i'm not willing to pay comissions and prefer a fixed rate

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thank you jenniferrini
I know by now you are right but i'm just too attached to the idea that i'm half way trough(survival instinct

)
what do you exactly mean by effective product? safe enviroment for purchasing or safe as in backed up for hacking attempts?
I guess my clients will arrive from personal network, i'm not counting on a lot of orders (at least not at the beginning)
After my last experience i'm surely going to find someone to help out locally. i really need some human contact because i wanna be sure comunication is effective.
I can't do it by myself since i am in over my head with other projects and content building is taking a lot of time.
oh, one more question about the legal aspects.
My company is based outside Italy where my suppliers are, what laws should i cite? EU? I have translations in 3 languages on my site because i could do shipping in EU, but i do have special offers for one country in particular!
do you think hiring a professional for terms&conditions & privacy policy, is necessary?

thank you all for reading!
(can't stopp thanking, i really appreciate this)

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thx shopindexer!
Yes i want to add more products...and more features, more product attributes(for the moment we have listed just one class of materials)
What do you think is best
a. configurable product with drop down menu for size, finish, color
b. same product listed in different colors or sizes
We want to provide assistance and complete giudance for our clients, having a background in architecture. I'd say that being in touch with our clients is essential.
Live chat is a must!
I know we are still just starting, but this year, hopefully, we'll bring home some results!

Happy New Year and Good Luck to you guys too!

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

For people unexperienced with Joomla, it is not user friendly at all. It took me a month to learn it and then when I mastered it, I dumped it because I sold the sites on Flippa and customer support was a nightmare. Nobody knew how to use it.

If you're on a low budget, I'd recommend you move it to Woocommerce. The Woocommerce plugin is free, get a woocommerce theme and the extensions you need and you're good to go. No monthly fees to pay and very easy to add products and product variations, such as size, color, etc.

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Ayodejiaa

10 years ago

Well i guess you have to stick with Joomla since you have come this far with it! I am from a strictly wordpress background and wordpress + woocommerce combination definitely solves my problem! They are both free and the only thing which you would pay for is a theme enabled for woocommerce. And since presentation is really key for you, wordpress has the most variety of themes to choose from as far as design is concered. (at least as far as i know) I find that woocommerce is extremely powerful in the configurability of the products, colours, sizes etc! But then again, i only have a wordpress background to ecommerce, so my comment is kinda steeped in that direction. Not to cause you any more heartache but that;w what i'd do! Cheers

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thx sbucciarel!
(for a moment i thought you were italian cuz your nickname sounds like peeling off

I am checking out woocommerce but honestly i can't stand the ideea of starting up all over again! maybe it-s really easy to just copy and paste my content from one site to another....but i'm also thinking about the money and the time i already invested in this version and GrrRRr
I just wish i could keep on working on the content and have someone do the rest for me...and when i say "the rest" i mean cart functions, legal aspects and all settings needed to have this shop working online asap.
I asked for help from local joomla developers and i am waiting for them to check back with me and tell me their pricing.

Thx Ayodejiaa!
I appreciate your intervention, and don't worry, i kinda noticed this is a general trend.
Everyone reccomends the system they use, but of course it depends on specific needs...
You are right about design, but you must have been talking about graphic design wich i know is important, but i'd want to keep a very clean and simple presentation.
I think that the functions should be equally important as design.
Immagine buying a 1500Eur furniture piece on a site that takes forever to load, has spam in the chat window, or any other problems that have to do with navigation, accesibility, responsiveness.... they are all very important, do you agree?
Everybody's in a rush these days and i know any sec can make the difference.

I still didn't get an answer about the product listings.
Do you think too many options for product configuration could affect in negative terms?
I must repeat myself and say that i want to get in touch with my clients for their orders because i think i'd have more possibilities to perform as an architect and not only as a vendor.

Cheers~

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Ayodejiaa

10 years ago

Well, again I will have to refer to my experience with wordpress since its what I have used so far. I know how pained you Re about starting afresh.but here are a few pointers.

Wordpress system has free plugins that optimise your site to load faster.
There are also free plugins that can be used to bulk upload your products into wordpress. If your produ ts are variable products (eg a product that comes in several colours and several sizes) I havent found a free plugin for that but there are various paid plugins that will do it clean.

Stuff like navigation and responsiveness are also easily handled by wordpress mostly by just selecting a very good theme. Dont quite get what you mean by spam in the chat window. But I know that chat systems for wp also exists and can be done without any form of interfering spam.

As far as the product configuration is concerned, I think you would have to test it out. I wouldnt advice more than colour and size for a start. And you can iterate as you get customer feedback.

Do a trip to themeforest and look for woocommerce enabled themes. They dont cost more than 60usd at most. Or I could point you to a few sites I built for a look at the look and feel. Cheers.

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Ricardo Furtado

10 years ago

Sorry to hear all your problems.

A good solution would be for you to post what you want on Elance or Odesk – both are the same now. You can also try PPH.

Check the profiles of the people who apply for the job you have posted. Only hire a person who has a good reputation.

All the best. Regards

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JenChan

10 years ago

I highly recommend Joomla. I see that you use Joomshopping. If you look at the reviews in Joomla for the cart you used, the reviews are terrible. I wonder how your freelancer able to chose this software.

I know Joomla very well but im not a coder. I hire developers via odesk or elance.

What you are experiencing is very common. I understand it is very difficult to look for qualified professional.

I have the same mistake the first time in odesk but i learn from it.

Don'ts when hiring in odesk or elance...

1. Do not hire anyone from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan with a rate below $10 USD. They are dumb.
2. Do not hire anyone which provides you lots of links from previous jobs.
3. Don't hire pre-made Cover letters with common lines " I can do job for you... i am expert...."
4. Don't hire anyone who does not answer the posting question or just flood you with links..
5. Do not hire people which has low self esteem. I can see this when I talk with them in skpe... they get upset with small stuff and argue with me...

What to do...
1. look for a freelancer with more than 5 job history related to Joomla or php work
2. Freelancer needs to have 4-5 rating....
3. ecommerce experience is a plus

hint: hire people from eastern europe.. They are smart although you need to be very careful. All my freelancers are from Ukraine, Lithuania and CZ and they are excellent. They speak good english as well and the rate is cheaper than Indians but quality is good.

I hired someone from Italy to manage my Amazon server but after 6 months I fired him for cheating the time. And he delete the entire server.... So be careful with this kind of people.

Hope you can finish your project. If you need help, let me know I can give you some good advices what to use in Joomla.

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onutzah

10 years ago

HI guys
Yeah, my experience with hiring online helpers didn't work out that well...
That is exaclty why i am currently looking for help here in Milan!
Someone that i can meet with and go trough all the details.

Thx JenChan!!
Finally someone who uses Joomla

YEEE!!!
So, what cart would you reccomend?

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koocnaed 10 years ago

I had some relative success with StoreCoach.com in the past. As a newbie it might be worth having a look over there.

Have been out of the eCommerce game for 18 months, so don't know how up to date the information is, but they were VERY helpful for me
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ohgworld

10 years ago

Hello 'Onutzah' ....

first let me (European myself, but in the USA living for over 20 years) tell you, after I have looked at your products shown on your website, that your line of products is a very appealing one that can be marketed not only in Europe, but also successfully in North America if done right. ... that means that you will first and foremost need a reliable partner here in the USA who can relate with you, and your product; i.e. one who is not only knowledgeable in eCommerce, but also knows about marketing, import, and rules and regulations when it comes to technical products such as yours where different electricity/lightning standards (that also involve liability issues) are involved. ...

Feel free to contact me via IM to discuss this in more detail.

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thx koocnaed i'll surely check out that link
Thx ohgworld i sent you a private IM

hope to hear from you soon

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j3yoo

10 years ago

I would recommend you reconsider using magento as your platform of choice. Don't let other people's opinions of which platform they like or dislike influence your decision. Instead, take a good hard look at your business requirements, product types, shipping, checkout requirements etc and let these be the driving factors to which platform you decide to go with. No matter what, there will be a learning curve for whatever you decide.

As a web developer, I have worked on numerous client side e-commerce projects using magento, woocommerce, jigoshop, shopify etc. If you are serious about long term success and scalability out of your platform, magento is hands down the way to go.

Just my 2 cents.

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muta

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onutzah

Hello everyone
I am also trying to build an ecommerce website that sells design lighting and furniture. I am based in Milan but am a foreign architect so i am trying to get these products visible outside Italy.............

Hi, you could just pay for shopify - Ecommerce Software, Online Store Builder, Website Store Hosting Solution- Free 14 day Trial by Shopify.. I find that they have everything you need to startup your store without too much tech support. You can start from there then build a custom solution as time goes.

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Weblover50

10 years ago

Originally Posted by muta

Hi, you could just pay for shopify - Ecommerce Software, Online Store Builder, Website Store Hosting Solution- Free 14 day Trial by Shopify.. I find that they have everything you need to startup your store without too much tech support. You can start from there then build a custom solution as time goes.

I would second that. That is by far the best option for a unskilled person with limited time to update, manage, debug the website. You get everything -script, design, hosting - take care of and you can simply add products and go!

Magento is great, but it is an over kill for a small startup. It is a resource hog and you will need help in future for upgrading, hosting, backup, small improvements etc.

Joomla is okay, again there is a learning curve, efforts to get it working the way you want etc. Wordpress and Woocommerce would have been slgghtly better, still more or less same.

I would recommend you a hosted complete solution, like WIX, Shoppify. You wont need an expert help (may be just initially) and your inventory is easy to manage with practically no overheads.

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bigcat1967

10 years ago

Just curious...did you get the programmer from odesk or craigslist? If so, you get what you paid for.

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JenChan

10 years ago

hey onutzah.. I have used Virtuemart... There are a hundred or a thousand of available templates everywhere. Its one of the most support component in Joomla. You can find alot of affordable developers everywhere.

If you want to hire someone you can see everyday, you might need to contact Joomla Italian group. They might be able to help you.
Home Joomla.it | Joomla.it Sito di supporto Italiano

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onutzah

10 years ago

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Yes, i initially hired support online and than got stuck...
I finally got the 2 offers i was waiting for.
I met these people personally and talked with them about this project.
There are big differences between the offers i received.
Magento developers - 800Eur and surprinsingly, Joomla developers - 2500...
(justified for redesigning the site's presentation, newsletter, installing and personalizing virtuemart + 100euros xtra a month for SEO...)
i guess that's webmarketing
this is driving me CRAZY !!!

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WorldIR

10 years ago

it wil be an long learning journey before success will come later

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onutzah

10 years ago

Ok guys, let's try to wrap this post up.
I'm not attracted to shopify or complete template alternatives since i am looking for professional help in this journey.
I wish to launch a great website, when we'll be ready and i understood how i need to spend money.
I'm probably going to choose Magento at this point o_O
You need a solid foundation if you want to build up a skyscraper
(should be 1/3 of the height, and i'm planning to go real high)

As for webmarketing and SEO, isn't it specific for each country?
Wouldn't it be wiser to hire professionals in the nation i plan to target?(at least for SEO)

ANd one last question.
DO i need a lawyer or do you guys know where can i get legal advice for terms, conditions and privacy policy?

cheers

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NetCram

10 years ago

Originally Posted by onutzah

Ok guys, let's try to wrap this post up.
I'm not attracted to shopify or complete template alternatives since i am looking for professional help in this journey.
I wish to launch a great website, when we'll be ready and i understood how i need to spend money.
I'm probably going to choose Magento at this point o_O
You need a solid foundation if you want to build up a skyscraper
(should be 1/3 of the height, and i'm planning to go real high)

As for webmarketing and SEO, isn't it specific for each country?
Wouldn't it be wiser to hire professionals in the nation i plan to target?(at least for SEO)

ANd one last question.
DO i need a lawyer or do you guys know where can i get legal advice for terms, conditions and privacy policy?

cheers

When it comes to legal stuff I hear LegalZoom.com is a great way to go to handle things like Terms, Private policy, Trademarking, Incorporating etc. Yes you could do most of this yourself but if you're trying to go big and it seems like you are then lawyers are essential.

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emidelicious

10 years ago

Both Joomla and Mageno are good options, Joomla is easier than Magento, on the other hand, Magento Extensions offers lot of functionality that Joolma does not. If you want easy solution, go with Joomla.

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henrycalvin

10 years ago

Ok so i read everything that you told.
I think first of all you need to have a website which is accessible to anyone. As in no one has to make an account to get in to the webpage.
Secondly since you are trying to promote your work on your webpage then i would suggest you some things that should be on your website, which would help your customers understand your work more and would be able to see it too.
1. Introduction to the business on the home page
2. Blogs about the business and its different works
3. Gallery in which you can post pictures of you best works and also of the thing that are your concept designs and you can build.
4. Your Contracts
5. A "Contact Us" link where you would have your address and your contact details.
6. Live Chat software for customers who are having difficulty understanding your website or about the work you do, then Live Chat helps your customers understand the point of your business. In short the people on the other side of the website will be helping in promoting your webpage.
These are some of the detailed things that would help you make your website better and help you run your business better.
And if you would like to know more about SEO or Live Chat then you can PM me and we can have a more detailed discussion about your website.

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onutzah 10 years ago

@Sarah Hu
What do u mean by popularized?
I think stock items are for a business with a different marketing strategy.
I want to check every detail of my supplier's organization in production and also know their business model because i want to be sure that i'll be selling quality products that will be available for the next couple of years.
Do you make the bags yourself?
My selection of products is also eco-friendly and let's call it "futuristic"

@henrycalvin
Hi and thanks for your patience(reading everything)
The site is still offline that's why it asks for pass and email, and it is so because i'm probably going to change platform. Besides, there's still a lot of work left to do...I will definitely have live chat on the site!
I wonder what do you mean by contracts? contracts with suppliers? or general legal aspects like terms and conditions, returns, privacy policy?
My approach is international and it's not that simple.
I have my translations in 3 languages and i sorted out logistics just for one country, my initial target, Ro. I've worked with these firms in the past and know their pricing is good, but they only operate between It and Ro.
I am hoping to arrange with my suppliers the shipping to other nations.
International contracts for small businesses are a rip off!
200$ for a 10kilo pack from Milan to Ohio - UPS
Or worse, 1200€ from Milan to Paris for a 40kilo pack - DHL
But shipping a full container from Shenzen to Napol costs the same!!!!
i read someone else's post here complaining about this on US territory also
i know how discouraging it feels to compare with those giants, they always have better deals!

@NetCram
I started small, by creating my blog, some years ago.
Architectural & design services
Not that much of a talented writer, but it made me practice and i started noticing the traffic, even if i don't have any subscribers i understood that i had interesting stuff to share.
I've stopped writing, being pretty busy with the ecommerce project lately.
So, this starting small is really big if you consider the different nations and cultures where i could be selling. My operative center is in Milan but my legal office is in Transilvania.. I'm a natural talent for getting myself in complicated situations :p
I will check out LegalZoom better, but at first sight it seems to refer to US.
Is that valid for my business too? I still didn't figure this part out.
Is there anything that needs to be done for websites in specific areas?
I recently understood that SEO is not necessarily done in Italy for italians.
But lets take privacy policy for eg., there are specific laws in each country. which article should be cited?
Different articles per each language version or just the one where my legal office is?

ok guys, if i didn't put you to sleep yet, good night and good luck all!!

p.s. if you can't get out of the tunnel, furnish it!
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NetCram

10 years ago

Hey just to let you know you don't have to build a skyscraper right off the bat. There is nothing wrong with starting small and relocating as you grow. That's what happens in the real world when you start with a small budget the online world isn't any different.

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gknugurlu

10 years ago

When you have no knowledge about something, it's normal to make mistakes. Just don't mind that you had problems, the important is to fix them. Every one troubles at the beginning, I'm sorry that you had difficulties.

Joomla is a good platform. I haven't got any experience with magento, but as far as I know according to the reviews and experiences others had, magento is a good solution for ecommerce.

If you are only going to list your products (not a dropshipping site) you don't need shopify. If you think to sell your products and at the same time to run a dropshipping site to sell other products too, I would suggest you doba.

My recommendations are:
Get your domain to ipage or purchase a domain and host it from there. ipage has a lot of marketing tools and free tools to run an ecommerce site. And it's really very cheap. After you start hosting from there, use drag n drop builder for your ecommerce site. It's under weebly platform which is very simple and easy to use. All you need is provided by ipage. Just checkout their site. They have promotions most of the time somtimes it's even going to just 1$ per month with all the features. Normally it's around 2.80$ per month with full features and free tools. You will also get free advertising credits for yahoo, bing, google, yellow pages, facebook and some others. Just check it out. They also have a 7/24 live chat support system. Also they give you a toll free number. Phone support is only during the week during the day.

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onutzah 9 years ago

Hello =)
I am thrilled to say we finally made it!
Check out the outcome

Www.lineamentis.com

Have the greatest day today people!
Sending good vibes to the world
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MarketResearchAmazon

9 years ago

Yes Joomla can do your purpose. can you share your website?

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onutzah 9 years ago

I did
www.Lineamentis.com
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