The Ryan Deiss Method

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I am subscribed to Ryan Deiss and I have noticed for a while now

that he has a method I find pretty interesting from pulling revenue from his list.

From what I noticed this is what he does:

1) You subscribe to his list

2) He gives out free tips and content on specific subjects [no surprise]

3) The free content leads to his DM labs website [blog]

4) You can read whatever the free content is on

5) At the end of the content it "pitches" to subscribe to his monthly DM Labs [paid] content and tells you what you get etc. etc.

6) The cost is a recurring $38.60

7) He also promotes separate products [from time to time] to his list via email.



What do you guys think of this method? It is a little different from most people just getting subscribers and pitching them products.

He leads them to his website with free content and then soft pitches for a monthly cost to his paid content on the site.

Thinking about doing something like this. Have you guys tried this before?
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  • It isn't the "Ryan Deiss Method." That would imply that he innovated it. Ryan likes the porn site sales model. It has branched out into many areas of the net.

    You offer great content for free and put the amazing content behind a paywall. The downside is in the required production value of the content. You can't get away with lackluster on the free end because nobody will buy. And the paid stuff has to be much better than the free. The MMO "guru" characters get away with much less quality content though since the subscribers to those kind of lists tend to not be the brightest bulbs.
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    • Thanks for the comment. Yeah I guess i didn't mean to actually mean that he innovated this method but it certainly is an interesting method.

      I agree with the paid content lacking value because I have subscribed through his trial and it truly wasn't anything I couldn't learn elsewhere for free.
  • One major advantage is that your subscribers don't tend to see your 'newsletter' as being nothing but sales copy...

    You're free to actually offer good information... and send 'em to the website for the selling.

    It's a very good method that more people should pay attention to...

    You can still sell affiliate products like normal - you just have much more room for a presell on your website than you do in an email.
  • I agree with Ben that you have much more room for a presell on a website. Here are a couple other observations about doing this:
    1. You train your readers to click links in your emails
    2. You add a certain unpredictability in your emails so that they aren't always expecting a sales pitch
  • In my opinion, this is the only way you should play it nowadays.

    Email open rates are getting lower and the industry continues to become much more competitive.

    Ryan Deiss is one of the most experienced marketers out there and knows exactly what he's doing. He delivers a good blend of value and pitching.

    Also, the method of getting people to click on a blog post and then having subtle "ads" or CTAs throughout is a very powerful strategy. I remember Frank Kern teaching this. It works because people see "blog links" as very low threat so they are more inclined to click through and engage.
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      Of course, the potential problem with following "gurus" of that kind is that you may well reproduce for yourself not only some of their disastrous legal problems, but some of their email open-rates, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...ml#post8661178

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    • Honestly, I do wonder though sometimes. When someone who is looked on as a Guru and this same person has such miserable Email Open Rates.....well then I have to ponder whether he is such a good role model for the majority of the Marketers in this Industry ???

      Sure, if you have a 'thick wallet' you can reproduce his results and model after him. But most email marketers cannot buy 100K worth of solo ads a month

      Something to think about



      - Robert Andrew
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  • A little old thread but yeah this is a great model to follow.

    Because you're providing great value FIRST on the website, maybe some social proof with comments and then a small pitch at the end of the content.

    90% content. 10% pitch.

    Frank Kern teaches this.
  • Interesting method. I would say that you need to deliver amazing content for free and then offer them again amazing paid content + some cool unique tricks/hacks. But the main thing here is FREE content. If you fail in delivering free quality why would someone believe you that you can give them something amazing for $$. Unless you prove it somehow, of course.

    But you gave me something to think about... Just keep in mind, Ryan Deiss is not working alone, he probably has people helping him (outsourced probably) because all of that takes a lot of time and effort (and probably money too).
  • It follows a pretty basic funnel.

    Providing value first then following up with promotion of services or product is a great method to follow.
  • Once you've made content what's it worth?

    When you've got other income that is stable and profitable you can afford to keep adding value and attracting additional marginal improvements.

    I'm sure Ryan has an acute understanding of his markets.

    It is always interesting to read the posts and stories of people struggling and the efforts they go to achieve success. Someone like Ryan understands that success comes through providing value that in the eyes of the receiver is worth far more than the price paid.

    I've subscribed to Ryan's material from time to time (not currently) and he is not pushy even though his VSLs and offers are many times compelling.

    The IM world should consider themselves lucky that people like him still have products in the space when they obviously have far bigger interest outside of the space.

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