If A Sub Is Worth Aroung $1 To Aquire And If Each Sub Is Worth $1-3/Month Then...

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Why isnt everyone doing this? This has never really made sense to me. Why wouldnt you spend 20k to build a list of 20k subs to make $20k+/month. I mean the sky would be the limit just buy more subs if you want to make more money.

Even if each sub is only worth $.50/month you would still be making a huge profit after a couple of months.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
    Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

    Why isnt everyone doing this? This has never really made sense to me. Why wouldnt you spend 20k to build a list of 20k subs to make $20k+/month. I mean the sky would be the limit just buy more subs if you want to make more money.

    Even if each sub is only worth $.50/month you would still be making a huge profit after a couple of months.
    Every marketer has their own way of doing things. Someone who focuses more on relationship building and can mentor as a leader, could easily make over $20k a month. The process is longer but you won't need to spend 20k to get there

    There are also a large portion of people here that have yet to refine a profitable sales funnel. If you're conversions are not up to scratch, throwing in 20k isn't going to get you far. It's easier than it sounds, but you're going to need to put in a lot more effort if you want to get those kind of results, just like with any business.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    If A Sub Is Worth Aroung $1 To Aquire And If Each Sub Is Worth $1-3/Month Then...
    IF is the magic word. Lots of people love to throw that "every sub is worth around a dollar a month" figure like it's automatic. Just get them on the list, and the money starts pouring in.

    Would that life were that simple.

    Once your process IS producing that $1-$3+ per sub per month, then what you say makes sense. Spend the $1 per qualified sub and get them into your process. Until then, you could just as well hit the track and bet the Daily Double.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsyz426
    Well you certainly could do that. I would say that most do not have a spare $20K to throw out to expedite the process. But if you do, and you are certain in the solo ad providers you are buying from, then I would go for it. But there are a lot of things you will want to test first to make sure that you are making the best use of your money. You should spend some time finding your favorite solo ad providers so that when you make your big purchases then you know the quality of the traffic so you can get the most subs for your buck. Second, you might want to try different squeeze pages and offers to see what converts the way you want it the best. You will want to find and set up "GOOD" quality click banking partners to funnel clicks to so that when you have this mass amount of clicks coming through, then you can double their value and get an additional 15-20K clicks owed back to you. And repeat the click banking process over and over,. Because the clicks that are owed to you and come back in can be funneled again for more click banking partners. Over and over and over again. Then you will have a list of subs more like 50K for your expenditure of 20K. That would be just a couple things you would want to test out and get set up correctly before you spend that amount of cash. I hope this helped.
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  • Profile picture of the author radhika
    You just buy subscribers without knowing their interests or any background on list?

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  • Profile picture of the author teeowl
    You can't just buy subscribers. You can pay for "pay per click" or "banner" adverts to get traffic. However you must make sure that you adcopy ensures that it is only targeted traffic that gets to your landing page and squeeze page.

    Bottom line: you don't buy subscribers, you buy traffic. It is your website landing page or squeeze page that converts the traffic (visitors) to subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Call me a skepchick, but there's also probably something in the perspective that the people who take a very quantitative approach to their list-building, thinking of it largely in terms of "subscriber numbers", may also tend to be the ones who have the most difficulty monetizing their lists.

      Don't imagine that "the biggest list you can build from the traffic" will be the same thing as "the list that produces the biggest income you can achieve from the traffic", because that's almost never the case, and the good and valid and reliable reasons for it not being the case are going to apply to yourself just like they apply to all the rest of us who make our livings this way.

      It's time to stop looking at list-building in terms of "how many?": for a big variety of reasons, some of them very predictable and apparent and others very much less so, that's rarely (if ever) a very constructive approach.

      Originally Posted by teeowl View Post

      Bottom line: you don't buy subscribers, you buy traffic. It is your website landing page or squeeze page that converts the traffic (visitors) to subscribers.
      This ... and it's your own subsequent email marketing skills that determine how monetizable the list is, too. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

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  • Profile picture of the author NutraCash
    Things are not always relative. Example, I purchased $200 a day in traffic and made roughly 3-350 a day off of it. After a month I decided to scale up to 500 a day. I broke even. Almost lost money one day. So I went back down to $200 and returned to my normal conversion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by NutraCash View Post

      Things are not always relative. Example, I purchased $200 a day in traffic and made roughly 3-350 a day off of it. After a month I decided to scale up to 500 a day. I broke even. Almost lost money one day. So I went back down to $200 and returned to my normal conversion.
      Interesting. And (I strongly suspect) actually more common than people realise. For quite a variety of reasons, things are not always as scalable, in reality, as initial results suggest, are they? A highly valid and pertinent point, in this discussion.


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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

    Why isnt everyone doing this?
    Regardless of what 'this' would refer to in this situation...

    A good amount of people just don't do what they know they need to.

    (especially online)

    And activity is often confused (such as going on Facebook, watching YouTube vids, etc.)...

    With actually getting 'stuff' done and experiencing growth online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdetective
    The $1+ per subscriber per month claims are available to those competent in email marketing. But such claims are very much a hangover from earlier years when such earnings were a lot easier to achieve.

    These days it's about standing out above the crowd, giving value,retaining subscribers by using passive marketing. Treat them and speak to them just as you would friends and aquaintences.

    Replying to your question, why others don't just throw money at it? It's because 95% of those that try fail within a short period, of the remaining 5% 95% of those will eventually fail with a substantial loss.

    Without a profitable tested funnel together with carefully constructed email follow up messages a minimum of 30 in my experience, you will not become one of the few that succeed.

    Others may think differently and have experienced short term gains, but can they be scaled and sustained? Only with experience I would suggest?

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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Meunier
    Originally Posted by bigballin6161 View Post

    Why isnt everyone doing this? This has never really made sense to me. Why wouldnt you spend 20k to build a list of 20k subs to make $20k+/month. I mean the sky would be the limit just buy more subs if you want to make more money.

    Even if each sub is only worth $.50/month you would still be making a huge profit after a couple of months.
    Because really.... it's a bunch of BS. In someone's dream is it any old subscriber is worth $1-$3 per month.

    That means 500 subs would pay you $500 per month. And I tell you I can buy a solo and have 500 subs tonight f I wanted and knew I would then have $500 per month income instantly like that. Then do that 10 times.

    People Guru Neil and Bob are sugAR coating a dream for you. I hate when I hear them say that garbage.

    NOW yes money is in the list .... but just don't buy that line each sub is worth $1 per month that's on your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
      Originally Posted by Colin Meunier View Post

      Because really.... it's a bunch of BS. In someone's dream is it any old subscriber is worth $1-$3 per month.

      That means 500 subs would pay you $500 per month. And I tell you I can buy a solo and have 500 subs tonight f I wanted and knew I would then have $500 per month income instantly like that. Then do that 10 times.

      People Guru Neil and Bob are sugAR coating a dream for you. I hate when I hear them say that garbage.

      NOW yes money is in the list .... but just don't buy that line each sub is worth $1 per month that's on your list.
      WOW, your sales funnel must suck. It isn't abnormal to achieve a list worth $10-$25 per subscriber per month if you know what you are doing.

      Unfortunately most people on this website are ignorant and lazy (sorry to say)
      to what actually works.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Colin Meunier View Post


      People Guru Neil and Bob are sugAR coating a dream for you. I hate when I hear them say that garbage.
      Curious, who is Guru Neil and Bob ??


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