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Methods to Collect Emails and build list?

by yunarel
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Hello, is there any method to collect emails from visitors without using AWeber or
getresponse or such services,

i mean is there any way to collect emails through webhosting itself ? like using my webhost to collect emails or another way?

services like aweber and such kind are expansive for beginners that's why i'm looking for another methods
#build #collect #emails #list #methods
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by yunarel View Post

    services like aweber and such kind are expansive for beginners that's why i'm looking for another methods
    It's a false economy, in the long run, because the "list" you'll build, that way, will probably end up being one you can never import into a proper autoresponder service and use for email marketing purposes (at any rate, not without sending a re-confirmation request, which typically loses a high proportion of the list).

    When it comes to email marketing, the mistakes are all sitting there, waiting to be made by those without enough experience to appreciate them.

    This isn't like "starting off with free hosting", planning to move later. There's a long-term opportunity-cost involved, here, too.

    GetResponse gives you your first month free, and then charges $15 per month. That gives you two months to make your first $15. If your business doesn't justify that cost, then you don't need an autoresponder.

    Originally Posted by yunarel View Post

    Hello, is there any method to collect emails from visitors without using AWeber or getresponse or such services,

    i mean is there any way to collect emails through webhosting itself ? like using my webhost to collect emails or another way?
    Yes, there are various different ways of doing it. The most well-known kind are WordPress plug-ins, for example. You can build your own list that way, through your own WordPress blog/site, and even send out the emails that way too (subject to the terms of service and limitations imposed by your hosting company). But that doesn't make it a good way to start. And for most people, it isn't.

    Most importantly of all: don't make the mistake of using a "free autoresponder" like "Mailchimp" - for all these reasons.


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  • Profile picture of the author lstoops
    You can use Mailchimp. The site says - MailChimp's Forever Free Plan allows you to send 12,000 total emails a month to up to 2,000 subscribers. This means you could send six times to 2,000 subscribers or 10 times to 1,200 subscribers at a time. However, you can only send up to 2,000 total e-mails in a 24-hour period.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by lstoops View Post

      You can use Mailchimp.
      You can, but I'd strongly advise you not to. And so would plenty of other Warriors who have lost their accounts there, and posted explanations about why, in dozens of different threads, here, to warn their fellow-members off. Here's a recent example: http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...ml#post9689403


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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    Assuming you are not paying for a domain name or hosting either.

    You could set up a free email account and use the holiday vacation option to send a message with your link to download your freebie.

    you can then create a category to email your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      If your primary goal is being cheap, it is going to be difficult to build any kind of business at all. Aweber, GetRresponse, give free or low cost trials. The list you build there in that time does not have to imported into another A/R system.

      There are lots of systems that can email from your domain, they come with drawbacks. Big ones in many cases.

      The big name A/R companies spend much of their day working on their relationships with ISP's so that the email from them can get delivered. If you host your own autoresponder on your domain your host is not going to look kindly on this, in many cases, and will stop your program from sending and receiving. Your deliverability is going to be a fraction of what the big names can give you. And you will spend your working time on maintaining your system so you can do the task you wanted to in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Originally Posted by yunarel View Post

    services like aweber and such kind are expansive for beginners that's why i'm looking for another methods
    Yunarel, in addition to Alexa's post, I would say this: in order to pay Aweber's monthly fee, you just need to not go out a night over the course of a month. That's it. Actually, you'll probably save even more than that.

    Seriously, there are people who are opening brick-and-mortar businesses that spend thousands of dollars just on rent and other services they need, so saying $19/month is a lot of money sounds a bit unfounded, to me.

    Plus, if you're having trouble not making $19/month from your list, you have bigger problems to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninosem
    You can collect emails and build a list with word press and some plug ins...
    one of them is ARGWA Free Autoresponder.

    But as some before me, I also recommend you to use Aweber or Getresponse... They told you the reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Wilkinson
    The money you will soon make from your list will make the $15 per month for GetResponse, or $19 a month for Aweber seem like a drop in the ocean. 'Free' options often make you regret relying on them, later on. There's a reason why they're free.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      While I agree in principle with the other posters, I do understand the hesitation.

      It's easy to say "if you don't make enough to pay your AR fees, you have problems." Truth is, many rank beginners do have problems, and many of them will not make enough to pay the monthly fee while they learn to attract prospects, tempt them to opt in, and craft messages that motivate a sale. Heck, many of them can't even pick a niche or a decent product, if you believe the threads posted.

      Assuming that you can at least pop for a domain, most hosting accounts come with a mailing list script called Mailman. It's not really meant to replace an autoresponder, but it will handle broadcast messages for smaller lists while you learn.

      Alexa is right, in that you will likely have trouble importing the list to more robust tools when you are making some money. So in today's world, scripts like Mailman are not the permanent answer. You'll want to transition to a real mailing solution ASAP.

      But if you are a rank beginner, you have a lot to learn before you need a professional solution. Use the beginner list to learn about attracting and converting subscribers, writing emails that get your most wanted response, and so on.

      Yes, it is possible to walk from Miami to Los Angeles, but if you have even bus fare, taking the bus is a better option. And if it means delaying your start while you work a part time or temp job to save up a few months' expenses, you could find the journey a whole lot easier.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        It's easy to say "if you don't make enough to pay your AR fees, you have problems." Truth is, many rank beginners do have problems, and many of them will not make enough to pay the monthly fee while they learn to attract prospects, tempt them to opt in, and craft messages that motivate a sale. Heck, many of them can't even pick a niche or a decent product, if you believe the threads posted.
        John, most people asking for help here live in the Western world. Trust me, $19/month, for something that could potentially change their life, is nothing. Heck, it's nothing even in the neck of the woods live in.

        I think people here fancy the idea of investing nothing and earning big cash. I just don't see the logic. I bet most of them spend at least $50 on meaningless stuff each month.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

          John, most people asking for help here live in the Western world. Trust me, $19/month, for something that could potentially change their life, is nothing. Heck, it's nothing even in the neck of the woods live in.

          I think people here fancy the idea of investing nothing and earning big cash. I just don't see the logic. I bet most of them spend at least $50 on meaningless stuff each month.
          Lucian, you're making a value judgment based on your values. What is "meaningless stuff" to you may be important to someone else. And, believe it or not, my young friend, even in the western world there are people to whom $19 is sometimes a lot of money - do they skip "meaningless stuff" like Internet access, or even paying the light bill or putting food on the table. Trust me, I've been there.

          Sometimes it isn't just skipping a movie or bar night, or dropping the daily coffee run.

          As for your bet, no thanks. You may be right about "most of them", but you don't have enough information to be so condescending.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            As for your bet, no thanks. You may be right about "most of them", but you don't have enough information to be so condescending.
            Ugh, I don't know where you got that from, and I really don't know how you got the idea that meaningless stuff means Internet access and bills to me.

            I was referring to nights out, drinks, cigarettes, eating out, and other things that people like but don't really need. I think this covers a lot of people, especially those of my and OP's age (from what I can tell from the avatar). If there are people who find $19 or $50 per month a lot of money, then they already know my advice doesn't apply to them.

            So please excuse my observation that I don't believe I was condescending to anyone. My advice might have been incomplete - in that I didn't suggest a solution to people with financial difficulties - but it was far from trying to put down people.
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            • Profile picture of the author BudiT
              Hi Yunarel,

              You can try MailChimp. They are the free autoresponder in the market, but I've heard some complaints about their services. Regardsless, newbies are using it to a great extent.

              But as for any service that is FREE, there's a caveat. They will put advertisement link. If you don't mind an ad popping in an email you sent out, then it's fine.

              But I'd highly recommend going for paid option, even for self-hosted one like Mymail or RapidMailer. I'm still using GetResponse at this point, because they work GREAT.

              Hope that helps!

              Oh, @Lucian Lada, I also don't think you're being condescending at all!

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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              Ugh, I don't know where you got that from, and I really don't know how you got the idea that meaningless stuff means Internet access and bills to me.
              I guess I wasn't being clear on this. What I meant was that you appeared to assume that anyone who claimed to be short of money was automatically wasting it on frills like nights out, etc. I was just trying to point out that the assumption isn't always accurate. Some people do find themselves in a hole and scratching to get back to broke.

              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              I was referring to nights out, drinks, cigarettes, eating out, and other things that people like but don't really need. I think this covers a lot of people, especially those of my and OP's age (from what I can tell from the avatar). If there are people who find $19 or $50 per month a lot of money, then they already know my advice doesn't apply to them.
              The key words here are "I think" and "they already know". If the folks having the problem have any pride, they tend to be sensitive about their situation, and they don't make the same distinction you assume they do.

              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              So please excuse my observation that I don't believe I was condescending to anyone. My advice might have been incomplete - in that I didn't suggest a solution to people with financial difficulties - but it was far from trying to put down people.
              I've known you on this forum long enough to know that you wouldn't put undeserving people down intentionally. You're one of the good guys. I just found your assumption that the OP was squandering money, and your advice to just suck it up and find the money a bit condescending. Since at least one other person on the thread disagrees with me, it could just be me.

              No harm, no foul?
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            • Profile picture of the author italk
              Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

              Ugh, I don't know where you got that from, and I really don't know how you got the idea that meaningless stuff means Internet access and bills to me.

              I was referring to nights out, drinks, cigarettes, eating out, and other things that people like but don't really need. I think this covers a lot of people, especially those of my and OP's age (from what I can tell from the avatar). If there are people who find $19 or $50 per month a lot of money, then they already know my advice doesn't apply to them.
              It's not just about spending money -- it's more about finding out whether the money they are spending is worth it or not. Drinks, eating out, etc. are consumable products. Even partying gives you a sense of satisfaction.

              Merely "wasting" $19 per month for something they don't know how to use is still a waste of money in their eyes.
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  • Profile picture of the author yunarel
    Thank you guys for all your replies
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by farhadankhi View Post

      You can use MailChimp for free to start as a beginner without any investment

      You can, but I'd strongly advise you not to. And so would plenty of other Warriors who have lost their accounts there, and posted explanations about why, in dozens of different threads, here, to warn their fellow-members off. Here's a recent example: http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...ml#post9689403


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