"Get the hell OFF my list!"

You know, sometimes I worry I promote to much and then I read stories like these (or check my spam folder) and I realize just how good my subscribers have it.

Do these spammers really see results from excessive promotion? Surely people don't become long-term buyers.

I don't blame you, I would've unsubscribed at the second pitch to be honest.

I doubt you are really off all the lists. I use tagged emails (unique per offer) and my experience is that they keep coming even if I unsuscribe.

Mark

My take is a bit different, rather than unsubscribe I would set up a filter in my email, and just skip the inbox and send it straight to archive or the trash bin. Might seem a bit sinnister to some, but if you've purchased a product from this person and they send you an email like that... Let em keep paying to send you those emails, and use em like a balls of paper in a trash shoot.

One of the well known guru's sends me 11-14 emails within 3-4 mins of each other...its actually kind of pathetic because I used to actually read his emails...now they go straight to the trash bin.All the more reason to learn from others...what not to do.

Yeeesh. I've never gotten an email like that, thankfully, but I would definitely be taken aback by it. There are a million reasons someone could delay opening, or never open, an email. That said, I know exactly what you're talking about, getting a handful of emails within minutes of each other and with the same swipe info posted into each one. It does feel spammy indeed.

Sounds like they are using the same PLR AR series. Hilarious.

They will have all bought a WSO that tells them to do this.

A lot of the things I've bought recently have been total crap, and far too many people are selling courses on subjects they know very little about.

Sometimes using the pre-written content is good as it matches the salespage and increases conversions, but to get 4 with the same copy suggests you have some desperate affiliates who are probably also pimping out their lists as solo ad sellers.

Overall you're doing the right thing to ditch the burn & churn list owners.

Great move Ron. People should be earning the right to get your attention and not just wasting it. If you really think about it, how does sending he same offer to the same person 4 time really going to help? Maybe they need to learn a bit more about persuasion and psychology of a buyer.

He probably have multiple lists and you're on all of them thats why you receive same email multiple times.

Agree on spam sucking? Yes, spam sucks. It takes a lot of trust to join someone's list and spamming definitely qualifies as a break-of-trust. NEVER break your subscribers' trust.

I totally agree stay away if they are going to spamyou!

What took you so long?

I am sure you're not the online buyer they lost with that kind of headline, I would have left them a lot sooner with the kinds of sales pitches and games that they were playing. They should have replied back to you, and tried to cultivate an even stronger CR rather then losing any credibility they had with the kind of emails that they sent you.

Pretty sure that that is against the wso rules now for sellers to do that. I would report the seller.

Personally, I forward anything remotely questionable to spam@uce.gov. Source: FBI — New E-Scams & Warnings

Hi Ron,

Unfortunately, we were actually given that advice by a "guru" that said that's how they do it and they have very few unsubscribes and make $XXXX with their list monthly. Having known this person, personally, for a long time, we went with that Advice. We didn't have any problems at all for several years and our lists kept growing and yes, sales were coming in very well.

Suddenly, in July 2012, it all changed. In June, we made $XXXX, but in July, we dropped to $XXX. It steadily dropped even more until those lists were completely useless! We do still mail something to them every so often to see if anything is appealing to them...but mostly, they just sit in a database taking up space.

I do have a question, though...

<< Edit: I did reread the OP and it doesn't seem that you have Signed Up or Confirmed, but from the conversations of others, it seems many of them have and my question is still valid. :-) >>

Why does everyone consider it Spam if you signed up on a list and confirmed your email (Double Opt-In)? In that case, every step was followed and it is not actually Spam. It's just Email Overload or Abuse. And I'm not defending the practice because I know first hand from the other side of the coin what happens long term when the Abuse is done and the List becomes Worthless. I just don't think people understand the difference in this and Spam.

If you didn't Double Opt-In, then yes, you were spammed through no choice of your own. But, I see others saying the same thing in this thread about signing up to a list and then getting Spammed and that where I think people don't understand the difference. When someone signs up and then confirms that they truly did sign up, then Spam is gone completely in that situation and only comes Value or Abuse. I've seen them both, and I've done the both! I have no problem being honest about it and hope others learn a lesson the easy way instead of the way I have (and I assume other marketers who use this practice have, but who knows).

I'm sorry this happened to you in these situations and Definitely, the last email you received was WAY Over The Top! No one should EVER be treated like that for any reason!

I'm also sorry that we took such bad advice and I apologize to any Warriors that are/were on our lists for Abusing the Relationship instead of Nurturing it the right way! Yes, Promos are the main way people with lists earn anything, but Relationships are meant to last a Lifetime! It would be like Abusing your Best Friend by bugging him everyday about something you want him to do and he's not interested...but you just keep doing it. Soon, you have to find a new Best Friend (and possibly have ruined even a complete friendship completely)!

Just my Thoughts and Question - From Someone who has used the practice and sincerely regrets taking the advice to do so! :-(

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

Scott

My Gripe forever. Whenever I join someones list, the very next time I refresh outlook I get an email from someone I never hard of. I wish the spam laws worked
Regards
Brian

yes lots of sales pitch i don't think they make any sales that way some of them have excite splashes to ton of other sites never stops,,so ignoring