How to Make an Email Submit Go to Both My CPA Network AND My Autoresponder?

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Hello,
This may be a strange question but I'd appreciate any help you can provide.
Is there a way for me to have someone submit their email address 1 time for a CPA offer and it not only go to the CPA network BUT the email address will also be added to my autoresponder? I ask because most IMers suggest sending visitors to a squeeze page and THEN send them to your CPA offer but most visitors aren't willing to fill out their email address twice.
If this IS possible, please walk me through the process of making this happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    It's doable, but requires coding skills in a language that your web server supports (i.e. php) and even then, there are some potential pitfalls where most autoresponder services will recognize and reject auto opt-ins if they are received too quickly.

    Do you have those skills?

    If so, you might be able to get someone in the programming section of the forum to give you a tutorial on how this is done.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    You are misunderstanding what is being said.

    Someone fills out your squeeze page and submits and then the email address is added to your autoresponder and in the autoresponder you can set what page is displayed to them after submitting, so you just set it to the cpa offer page and then after submitting they will be sent to it.

    That's what you are talking about - Yes?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    Am I?

    Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

    You are misunderstanding what is being said.

    Someone fills out your squeeze page and submits and then the email address is added to your autoresponder and in the autoresponder you can set what page is displayed to them after submitting, so you just set it to the cpa offer page and then after submitting they will be sent to it.

    That's what you are talking about - Yes?
    Except he said:
    Originally Posted by ToAchieve View Post

    ...but most visitors aren't willing to fill out their email address twice.
    I think that implies that the "Action" in the CPA offer is an opt-in (i.e. a lead generation offer)
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  • Profile picture of the author JC Web
    He's talking about co-reg. Most CPA advertisers do not allow this for obvious reasons. I'm not going to post directions on how to do it since most people trying to do this in the above situation are doing it deceptively and illegally. If the OP has permission of the advertisers (unlikely) then he needs to make sure the co-reg is opt-in only (not opt-out) and that the subscriber is clearly informed that they are signing up to two separate lists owned by separate companies.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by ToAchieve View Post

    Hello,
    This may be a strange question but I'd appreciate any help you can provide.
    Is there a way for me to have someone submit their email address 1 time for a CPA offer and it not only go to the CPA network BUT the email address will also be added to my autoresponder? I ask because most IMers suggest sending visitors to a squeeze page and THEN send them to your CPA offer but most visitors aren't willing to fill out their email address twice.
    If this IS possible, please walk me through the process of making this happen.
    I think the best way you could do this is some offers allows you to auto populate fields (such as email), but you would need to find this type of offer
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    If all he wants to do is submit data from single form on his site to two places, that's not hard.

    If he saying he wants to load the cpa offer somehow, that then makes it also possible to get the email to be added to his autoresponder, then I have no clue.
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    • Profile picture of the author ToAchieve
      Let me clarify what I'd like to happen...

      When a visitor clicks on my ad they will be taken to my squeeze page. They will then fill out their email address and click submit (email address goes to my autoresponder). When they click submit, they'll then be taken to my CPA offer and their email address will be filled in already. If they're interested in the CPA offer, they will then click submit without needing to re-enter their email address.

      I don't wish to auto-submit their email address to the cpa network. The visitor would have to submit it themselves without having to type in their email address twice.

      Is this allowed?
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        I do both at same time.

        Have a Sq. Page saying that there is a Product for them to look at at a discount for a limited time only. And to enter their name and email below. Then also put as a bonus on the Sq.Page you will give them a FREE intro. E- report.

        They sign up, push submit and then get sent to a Thank you page letting them know their E report is in their inbox and also give them the CPA Link to check out this limited time offer


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      • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
        It will come down to if the offer lets you pass the email to the form and pre-populate the field.
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      • Profile picture of the author JC Web
        Originally Posted by ToAchieve View Post

        Let me clarify what I'd like to happen...

        When a visitor clicks on my ad they will be taken to my squeeze page. They will then fill out their email address and click submit (email address goes to my autoresponder). When they click submit, they'll then be taken to my CPA offer and their email address will be filled in already. If they're interested in the CPA offer, they will then click submit without needing to re-enter their email address.

        I don't wish to auto-submit their email address to the cpa network. The visitor would have to submit it themselves without having to type in their email address twice.

        Is this allowed?
        You will have to specifically seek out offers that allow this. Many don't. If you are unsure about a particular offer, you should ask your affiliate manager before doing it. You could ask them if they can recommend an offer that allows it. Some networks won't have any that allow it. Others may have an advertiser that doesn't have a restriction on it and has multiple offers. Many of the email submit offers are run by the same couple advertisers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        In order to achieve this, you need to intercept the initial optin, in order to use it for pre-filling the form on the CPA offer.

        Originally Posted by ToAchieve View Post

        When a visitor clicks on my ad they will be taken to my squeeze page. They will then fill out their email address and click submit (email address goes to my autoresponder). When they click submit, they'll then be taken to my CPA offer and their email address will be filled in already. If they're interested in the CPA offer, they will then click submit without needing to re-enter their email address.
        When the visitor fills out the initial optin form, it should be submitted to YOUR web site. That is done by setting the <form action=yourdomain.com/somephpage.php> instead of your autoresponders URL.

        somephppage.php can then forward the form to your autoresponder's optin URL via a php curl statement, and then pass the variables (name, email, etc.) to your CPA offer as either form variables or as querystring variables.


        Your CPA offer can then display the CPA offer page - after pre-filling the form fields with the parameters passed above.

        I don't wish to auto-submit their email address to the cpa network. The visitor would have to submit it themselves without having to type in their email address twice.

        Is this allowed?
        Whether it is "allowed" depends on the terms of the individual CPA offer (as mentioned by others).

        In the above solution, the CPA sign up is not auto-submitted, but it still has the potential problem of always sending the form to your autoresponder with the same IP address (that of your web server).
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        • Profile picture of the author yakim1
          Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

          somephppage.php can then forward the form to your autoresponder's optin URL via a php curl statement, and then pass the variables (name, email, etc.) to your CPA offer as either form variables or as querystring variables.
          Hi Sid, there is a very big problem in using a php curl statement to pass the variables (name, email, etc) to an autoresponder. when curl is used the IP address listed in the autoresponder will always be the server IP address and not the IP address of the subscriber.

          The autoresponder companies will know that the optins are being sent via a script and not from the browser making it appear that the submission process is automated and not being done by a real person. I don't know any autoresponder services that allow this.

          Best regards,
          Steve Yakim
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          Hey Steve,


          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          Hi Sid, there is a very big problem in using a php curl statement to pass the variables (name, email, etc) to an autoresponder. when curl is used the IP address listed in the autoresponder will always be the server IP address and not the IP address of the subscriber.
          Absolutely correct.
          That's why I mentioned that fact in the last sentence of my original response

          Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

          In the above solution, the CPA sign up is not auto-submitted, but it still has the potential problem of always sending the form to your autoresponder with the same IP address (that of your web server).
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        • Profile picture of the author arpitamishra
          Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

          In order to achieve this, you need to intercept the initial optin, in order to use it for pre-filling the form on the CPA offer.



          When the visitor fills out the initial optin form, it should be submitted to YOUR web site. That is done by setting the <form action=yourdomain.com/somephpage.php> instead of your autoresponders URL.

          somephppage.php can then forward the form to your autoresponder's optin URL via a php curl statement, and then pass the variables (name, email, etc.) to your CPA offer as either form variables or as querystring variables.


          Your CPA offer can then display the CPA offer page - after pre-filling the form fields with the parameters passed above.



          Whether it is "allowed" depends on the terms of the individual CPA offer (as mentioned by others).

          In the above solution, the CPA sign up is not auto-submitted, but it still has the potential problem of always sending the form to your autoresponder with the same IP address (that of your web server).
          This looks like a possible technique. Will try it myself and let you guys know.
          Thanks for this amazing share!
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  • Profile picture of the author ToAchieve
    Thank you everyone. Your responses are much appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by ToAchieve View Post

      Let me clarify what I'd like to happen...

      When a visitor clicks on my ad they will be taken to my squeeze page. They will then fill out their email address and click submit (email address goes to my autoresponder). When they click submit, they'll then be taken to my CPA offer and their email address will be filled in already. If they're interested in the CPA offer, they will then click submit without needing to re-enter their email address.

      I don't wish to auto-submit their email address to the cpa network. The visitor would have to submit it themselves without having to type in their email address twice.

      Is this allowed?
      If the CPA offer is coded into your own page, it's pretty simple to do with a session cookie and some javascript. Basically all you need to do is read the email from the cookie and add it to the form field as a default value. As you say, the visitor will still have to click to submit the CPA offer, but they won't have to type out their email again.
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      • Profile picture of the author puguhelka
        I have the same question with @toachieve. Thanks to everyone here for enlighten this. Solution for me is using optin banner then redirect to cpa offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author yakim1
    There may be a way to have someone optin to your squeeze page and then add the same opt-in data to the CPA offer opt-in form.

    I don't know if this will work because I have never tried to manipulate another companies webpage. So I have not done any testing in this area.

    You would have to have a programmer develop a script for you.

    You could send people to your squeeze page which would capture the subscriber's data in a cookie when the squeeze page form is submitted.

    The thank you page would be the CPA offer opened in an iframe on your website.

    Another script would read the data in the cookie and add the data to the form in the iframe.

    Since it is possible to view the source code of the CPA offer you could see the form input name fields and possibly set the value fields to the same values stored in the cookie.

    The visitor would need to submit the form and then you would need to have the next page brake out of the iframe.

    This way the browser is used to submit both forms and there will not be any problems with the visitors IP address.

    If the iframe is empty other than the CPA opt-in page the only way people might know that it is an iframe is that the url listed in the address bar of the browser would be from your website and not the CPA website.

    I know in theory this will work because I use the same principles in a very expensive software that I created but is only used with my own domain pages and is used in a much different way.

    So it is my belief that a good programmer could create the code to control both the squeeze page to store the visitor's data in a cookie and control the iframe page to add the visitor's data to the correct fields in the opt-in form opened in the iframe.

    I hope this is helpful,
    Steve Yakim
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