Help. Big lists but no sales.

hey there you seem to be doing well and getting a lot of subscribers!


However, what a lot of us marketers are finding is CB is not converting well now especially through email.


The product has to be super perfect to even make a few sales!


What are your open rates?


What is your product sales to help emails?

Well your open rate are better than most people!


So, your problem lies in your email copy


or your not matching what people signed up for!


Please tell me your funnel....

Ok that's very good but I can tell you right now what your doing wrong!

You are targeting a market, you need to target a niche within a market and be super relevant!


Ok so the


market is weight loss


but choose a niche for example women looking for six pack abs


or men over 30 looking for creatine pills.


Then your lead magnet and offer can all match up and be relevant.


this way you will match the message to market a lot better and make sales!


and also if your using generic swipe your conversions will be low


you need to be unique and market from a different perpective!

ok well you have a good start but then your email copy is not converting!

Send a sample of one of your emails and then I can help you more! if ya want

Shaun is right man. You need to segment that list.

ok see here my feedback:

• this is way too many questions!
• Think of the REAL reason - not some superfluous one like:
  "I'm going to a wedding and I want to look good in the pictures." They would have already thought of a reason before they even looked, you don't need this.
• It's too long, don't write 1 or 2 lines but this is too much.

Your doing well with:

1. creating suspense for the next email!
2. your trying to be personal

Your email swipe is the problem!

Yeah your doing great getting them!


The hard part though is the swipe for most people!!


You need to:

• provide free value and goodwill
• write as though their the only person your talking too.
• recommend don't sell
• Use the ratio of 3 free value emails to one paid email or even more!
• Don't mail so often not everyday

You can only email links every time when you have built a relationship with your followers!


Yes at first you can email everyday, but then NO!


You could go on odesk or free lancer!


or even here in warriors for hire


Good luck

You keep saying you can't write. Well you have made several posts in this thread and guess what? It sure looks like you can write fine.

Keep the emails short and sweet. The purpose of the email is to get them to click a link. Get the reader off your email and onto a web page as fast as possible.

When people are reading emails they are in... Let's get the inbox empty as fast as I can mode.

Get them to a web page where they move into a... Let's actually read this mode.

Hope that made sense.

And yes it seems you sure can write. Just use conversational writing in your emails.

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Rob Whisonant

Sorry dude I have no idea but the click bank is best affiliated program.

Have you tested something different that CB?

Do you track URLs inside emails to see if they click? This is quite important.

If you get clicks start a solo ad service .

But yeah, I would try different offers, even Amazon. Also you might find related products and contact the creators and either propose them a paid promotion or ask for an affiliate link. Or create your own website and dropship from Amazon or China.

In my opinion, the problem is on the email swipes. Especially the ones provided by the vendor of the CB product. Probably your email list has seen the same email many times before, so try to be original.

I would also like to suggest you to change the way you write your emails. Incorporate an exciting email subject line, followed short and crisp email body. Add attractive templates and at last add a click to action button in your emails that will take your subscribers to the website page.

Hey there! I can see that you already have a base for your internet marketing business. To be honest, I had the exact same problem as you when i first started out. I created my own blog, i created free ebook giveaways,posted on forums, optimized for Google, but i just cant seem to get buyers instead i get LOADS of freebies who were there just for the free stuff. And that is when i came across paid advertisements. Paid advertisements is one of the most effective ways to get traffic very quickly.

But do note that there is a huge difference in normal traffic and QUALITY traffic when you are doing internet marketing. For myself, Facebook Ads and buying Solo Ads are my favorite ways of getting quality traffic in the quickest time.

1. Facebook Ads

As you know, Facebook do have a large pool of audiences. But not only that, they have a large pool of data of their audiences as well. Therefore, it is especially for useful internet marketers when it comes to selecting QUALITY leads by targeting different audience with the demographics they provide in Facebook.

2. Solo Ads

Another way which is my number 1 favorite, is buying Solo Ads. Solo Ads is basically sold on a per click basis. It is basically paying someone (an already successful internet marketer who already has a huge list) to send out an email to their list advertising your offer based on your selected niche you are currently doing. One of my favorite sites that I like to use to buy solo ads is through Udimi. It is something like a network and everything on this site has a feedback (something like eBay) to make sure you don't get ripped off from their previous buyers.

I have seen a huge improvement in my internet marketing business once I have used these tools to get traffic! Do not rely solely on free traffic because i can tell you truthfully here that you most likely would not get your ideal result in the time frame that you want. And this method is much more cost effective if you were to compare it with Google PPC where you are basically paying for potential customers to click on your ads. The concept here is the same but the difference is the QUALITY of audience that you are getting. You are literally targeting people who have already have their cards ready in their hands, someone who is willing to pay the price for something good.

Hope this works for you! Let me know. Cheers!

Or maybe try to find something new like in ads....

You need to check your email script. You need to nurse your list. You need to understand what your subscribers are interested in and what they really wants. Just give them what they wants and you will make money.

Can you see who clicked but didn't buy? Email them directly and ask them this:

"I saw that you clicked on the link to X product, but didn't buy. Just curious, what stopped you from buying?"

Ask this to everyone that clicks and didn't buy.

Start answering these objections in your emails.

Not all subscribers are of the same quality. Could be a problem with how you're generating the leads, such as where the traffic is coming from and why they are opting in in the first place. I'd rather get 10 leads with intention to buy something than 100 leads opting in to get a free doodad.

If you're using swipe emails, no wonder, they'll see right through you. Do the the people writing those emails know the needs of the people on your list?

Exactly!

Write more succinct emails (length is irrelevant) in YOUR OWN voice. The whole point of marketing through email is to build relationships with subscribers that is based on trust and you getting an understanding of what they want.

eg:

==> 10,000 subscribers from inorganic lists are, as you have witnessed, worthless
==> 1000 subscribers develop trust in you over 3-6 months of you personally answering their questions through email, and then when you offer a $1000 3-month 1-2-1 deep level training, 10 of them invest

nice huh?

Basically when you got open and clicks you can find a way to monetize your email lists. You just gotta find that works for you.

https://www.adngin.com/blog/blogging...ips-that-work/

Why not survey them, with another freebie for completing the survey.

I would look for 2 or 3 aims to the survey -

1. To segment the list further - ie to focus down on tighter niches within what it is for

2. To see if there is a particular help topic they want, within your niche.

3. Be a bit radical - and see if they would be interested in another totally different niche but one that is of universal interest - eg MMO etc - again with an offer - if you get 10% wanting this, that convert at 10%, then at least you are making something. - Move these over to another list etc and start mailing that afresh


Another thing would be to use your lead gathering way to do other offers - maybe via a JV with someone? - Happy to talk on this further, as Insta was a market I'd like to capture.

You need to experiment on the email you are sending. I think the problem is there, it is not effective.

For your weight loss list, you may want to try promoting whatever is the hot supplement and has a free trial +s&h. They can convert pretty well and typically pay decent.

For the past 16+ years, I have been monetizing purchase data (email) by promoting PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers, because there is no credit card / purchase required. All a user has to do is fill out a form to complete an offer. So conversion rates are typically much higher than offers that require a purchase. Free signups for dating is also high converting free offer.

Maybe you want to rethink what type of lists you are building and build lists that are geared to promoting free offers.

soutthills01,

Sounds like there is something very wrong. Using affiliate networks like Cickbank hardly ever work from my experience. They generally have 2-3 big clients that support their business and everyone else get's burned. I think you should hook up with a few direct merchants (I am sure I can or some others have some connections for you) or work with a more hands on Affiliate network like Jumbleberry or Oasis Ads (I can also make an intro).

Best,
Zach

Check this out - Problem Solved: I Have a Big List But No Sales....

May I interject on this discussion. I am an aspiring affiliate marketer to be (I hope) but my list is only 34 long even though I have a free ebook with 150+ juicing/blending recipes. Any ideas people on how I can acquire some QUALITY traffic? Sorry if it is already on this forum but I am wet behind the ears. I joined a while ago but have neglected to use this very often but that will soon change!.

Here are my thoughts on this:

1. Your subscriber source could be a problem.

If folks are coming from instagram they probably don't want to buy anything from you. Plus if a ClickBank site isn't optimized for mobile they won't buy from a phone but will wait to get to a computer.

2. Segment that damn list.

Break it down into segments so it makes sense.

Think niche not market because what you are targeting is a market (weight loss)

3. Stop using swipes.

You said you don't know anything about weight loss so why even enter the market in the first place.

Better off writing your own emails and not doing a swipe and hype job with them

Hope that helps a bit,

Isaiah

Send your subscribers a fun survey that will actually give you information about what kind of products each one are interested in. Use the gathered information to segment your lists and then send laser targeted offers.

How did you got those subscribers? Did they subscribed intentionally and confirmed their subscription? Or did you just bought some lists?

Are they expecting emails from you? Are they opening them? What are your Open and Clickthrough Rates?

Do you send a series of 4-5 emails regarding a certain product over the course of 1-2 weeks? Or just one email and expect sales?

How many clicks do you get on an usual promotion? Even with a GREAT product, if the subscribers don't trust you enough, you can barely get 1 sale out of 100 clicks (most of the times even less). That's CLICKS, not opens.

Oh...and one more IMPORTANT question...maybe the most important of all!

Where are your subscribers from? What countries?

If they are not from the US or Canada you are wasting your time promoting Clickbank products! So far I've got tens of thousands of clicks to CB products and 98% of the sales came from the US and Canada. If your subscribers are from India or other poor or developing countries, most people are not willing to pay 30$ or 40$ for an informational product! And even European countries with good salaries don't convert so well on Clickbank.

So if you want to make money from CB products, definitely focus on getting US and Canadian subscribers!

From what i can see, you can try:

1. Offering $19 tshirt or mug with your niche, this might convert well
2. Email retargeting (those that open your email but dont click) on FB ads !

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you should use split test or apply different strategies to market your products. there is no such a certainty here. everything need to be tested

I would not go and do any surveys or anything. People are lazy and will not do it unless offered some kind of bribe.

Instead, I would start interacting with subscribers, like making webinar on a subject and talking to them directly. Then let them ask questions. That way you can gather all the information you need while building a relationship with your subscribers.

Realize, it is almost impossible to anyone on this forum to give you anything but generalized advise (because they don't know how exactly you do things to say anything specific) that you likely already heard hundred times from other sources.

Don't use swipes as is, soutthills01. Use them as baselines but edit them a bit to fit the unique needs/language of your subscribers. You have good open rates so it's safe to assume that they are real human beings that are interested in what you are saying.

Also, I would check on the traffic source. Some traffic sources, despite being massive and affordable, just aren't good at sending buying visitors, only lurkers and freebie seekers.

You have the list building skills...

Now what you want to focus on is to learn email marketing.. Go find one and apply what you learn.

Rob

14,000 is a good sized list. Sounds like you are good at list building. I would use a survey to segment the list. Maybe even more than one survey. You could find more than one niche within your list. Now go make some money

Why not promote offers in JVZoo?

Hi
You need to segment that list and you need to experiment on the email you are sending. I think the problem is there, it is not effective.

You may also set up redirection to CPA offers, i.e. after a subscriber verifies email s/he gets redirected to a CPA page (after registration or subscribing, you get paid).. you may start with ViceOffers first, and then move on to bigger ad networks such as MaxBounty and PeerFly..