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I have been able to garner almost 100,000 e-mails after a long period of efforts. These e-mails addresses and names are not laser targeted traffic or anything. They are just random IDs from random locations of the world from random walks of like. For example, I got to extract list of employees with email addresses for one of the hospitals in Omaha, Nebraska.

My quandary is that I do not know who to send what email, who to sell what product. I use Clickbank.

Can the warriors guide me with some basic strategy here?

Thanks in Advance!

AM
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  • It is not important that you have many Email address. But it is too much important is the email address active? what is their expectation? I mean is the Email address your targeted? If you sent 100000 email but if their is no interest to your product, the result will be zero. So you have to make a sort of email address to your targeted people. Thanks
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    • Very good idea. instead of your email 100,000 available. you should collect emails from people interested in your products leave when they learn them. Thus it is more efficient.
  • Hello Amit,
    The first question is about the legality of that emails, for US law you can not just get and use some emails for advertising, people must give you personally their contact.

    If you still want to use that email list, you must send first introduction emails to your list, to meet you or your brand, give them some really great valuable information about product what you sell. Information must be for free.

    Second what you must do is to segment that people in some category, example not all products is for men or women, or some age, or people who have children, or have house or condo, or have a car or go to work with the bus, love or not love music, travel etc...

    When you segment that people you continue to send them valuable information, and try to get some feedback for them, an example you can send them an email where you ask them to send you any question about your product or something also what is connected with your product.

    When you see your list is active and communication is great, you can start to promote that product from Clickbank, but do not tell them too much about the product, tell them what product can do for them, how can help them and how can make their life better.

    My suggestion is to send few deferent landing page to that people and try to segment them to other lists by interest.

    Milan Disic
    Email Marketing Mentor
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    • Sending close to 100,000 introductory emails will be a daunting task and could last for many months to come. Completing the whole process in phases (introductory email then segmenting demographics etc.) might take enough time to let the product I am tying to promote become irrelevant.

      I am newbie with no website. What I have understood so far about Internet Marketing is that you need to act promptly on what is hot. No doubt that the idea of building this whole permission-based email list, gaining trust of users, treating each email as an actual person and not just string of characters etc. is the most legitimate and honest way of establishing a lasting relationship and a 'business' in its complete sense. However, I am pressed for time and want the sales to at least start trickling in. I want to make this my full time job with honest day's work and earn accordingly.

      Let me know if you have suggestions.

      AM
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  • You know that's Spam and Illegal right?

    Go to the bestblackhat forum to get advice on such stuff.
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    • Spam is an e-mail which is Unsolicited AND In Bulk. If you sent 100,000 different people only one email, is it still spam?
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  • It's all about targeted traffic and targeted email list. People need to trust you before they will (be even thinking) about buying some product from you. Same goes for affiliate.
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  • How do you get an email list form a hospital, you steal the addresses?
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    • Hello Nate.

      No, I did not steal the list.

      There digital/physical places where some such institutions have to publish such data. Obviously they do not do with intention of this data being used by marketers, but yet.

      AM
  • You want a basic strategy for you 100,000 email? Delete them!

    You have a list of email addresses that you are going to spend time effort and money to spam.

    The end result will be (as Ahmed Salah has explained) that you will get very little opens, high bounce rate, low conversions, and marked as spam.

    The end result will be that you would have purchased a bulk emailer (or service) and will make less money then you spend to purchase the tools you will need to spam people.
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  • How did you get these emails? Did they opt in?
    If you just collected them randomly without getting them to opt-in, i'd stay away.
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    • Hello ChrisBa,

      I can't reveal the sources here. They are not opt-ins at all. Most of them could be the old people who never use computers but someone created an email address for them for some official paperwork.

      This whole list indeed is an untargeted big heap of garbage. But the challenge is; can we devise a way to even utilize this. This is for everyone's benefit. If a solution comes up, I'd be willing to share the ways to pull such huge number of email addresses with names, job titles, companies etc. with much more ease much less time than I spent.

      AM
  • Since you will basically just be sending random people spam, I don't think it really matters. Just take whatever offer is converting the best for you and use that. Results will obviously be terrible and you'll have to use a bulk emailer you can just burn afterwards, but you never know, some people might bite.
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    • Hello solidwealthsystems,

      That's the positive attitude! Thanks Dude!

      But I believe the strategy can still be further refined and improved with more finesse.

      AM
  • Sounds like another case of spam to me.

    So your best bet would be to just delete them and start over by building the list your damn self and not trying to take a shortcut.

    If not this will quickly bite you in the ass and whatever platform you use will get your banned and terminated.

    Isaiah
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    • Hello Isaiah,

      That may well be the case. Can you suggest a digital way of building a clean list without having to own a website.

      AM
  • This type of list is perfect for my favorite campaign. You know, the one where the Nigerian prince wants you to cash a money order for him.
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    • Thanks for the humor bro!

      I once was about to be duped by one such Nigerian princess, but managed to put brake on that speed ride just right in time. Had that offer gone through, I would be in line with Bill Gates and Warren Buffets (Saint of Omaha) and Jesse Livermore.

      A M
  • you're going to get kick out of your autoresponder if you get too many complaints

    Best u step away from that suspicious list and start from scratch...

    just my two cents

    Ike Paz
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  • You are just going to get you account terminated or your IPs blocked / blacklisted sending a random scraped list. You will get hammered with bounces and spam traps.

    The only reason I would ever scrape a list, is if you're targeting a specific type of business and you're going to send a very targeted message, that ideally doesn't come off as just a sales pitch.

    I'm a big mailer, but I for the most part don't build opt-in list. I buy data, but the data I buy is all users have given permission to receive messages from 3rd parties. So it is 100% can-spam compliant.
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    • Hola Diablo,

      Thanks for insightful advice! You're absolutely right.

      AM
  • If your email list is not targeted, there is no use in that. You will hardly get any sales from your list. I think you should start building a targeted email list from scratch.
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    • Hello xixna,

      You're right. But then, how would you suggest I go about building a targeted list without owning a website.

      AM
  • You can send them to squeeze page first and then add them to proper autoresponder like aweber, I mean build targeted list from it. What niche to choose you need to test. First you can send them to make money online niche, then to self development, lose weight, etc. You can even end up with several targeted lists in different niches ;-) Hope that helps.
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    • Hello ydsimple,

      Thanks for encouraging words; few queries though-

      1. How do I create Squeeze Page, can it be done for free?
      2. Do I need to have a website with domain and all for Squeeze Page to work, can it be done for free?
      3. I will need to send emails beforehand before I could get them to the Squeeze Page, wouldn't that fall under 'spamming' anyway as most of the responders on this thread have expressed as their view (which I also agree wtih)?
      4. Selection of Niche might not be my choice as I will be picking products from Clickbank based on healthy Gravity.

      AM
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  • As with a lot of things in IM, the only REAL answer is testing, improvement, more testing and more improvement etc.!

    Obviously you need to separate your contacts into different lists for different subjects, so you target each more effectively.

    Once you've done that, one approach would be to ASK each list what they want most, what their biggest problem is, etc. then you give them a product that helps them get what they want, or solves their biggest problem.

    As well as ClickBank, consider JVZoo, Amazon affiliate products (they pay less percentage, but covert VERY much better than ClickBank, generally), and other things. Once you are making consistent sales on one list, create your own product specifically for that list, so you have more control and keep a larger percentage.

    As well as selling products on each list, make sure you regularly give them genuinely useful information, for free, too, as that will increase your conversions, and decrease your unsubscribes etc.

    Once you've sent about 10 emails of useful free info to a list, it probably makes sense to remove any members who've not opened any of them (most list-management systems will tell you this), because they are costing you money (in terms of your monthly list-management cost).

    Hope that helps

    Chris
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    • Hello Chris,

      One of the best answers I have seen so far; thank you!

      One query though about the 2nd step (one approach would be to ASK each list what they want most, ) of the process - I am assuming 'ask' refers to sending emails (about 100,000); wouldn't that be what other people have been naming it i.e. spamming? Or, it there any other way to do it?

      AM
  • Hello Amit

    If you had a genuine targetted optin list of 100,000 you would have a million dollar a year business, but in this case take the advice of those who have told you that your list is worthless, and start over again building your own list or promoting by other means until you build a list.

    You said you compiled that list after a long period of effort, but you have really put the cart before the horse, you should have been spending that time learning about Internet Marketing, including the law relating to email marketing. You can learn a lot for free, from reading posts here in the WF an just from online searches.

    But don't give up, in my first year of IM I made US$408 profit for my first whole year of effort, an I was spending 2 to 3 hours each night trying to learn IM. That was 13 years ago, I don't think the WF even existed then or I wasn't aware of it, an there was not a lot of information out there, I was trying to learn from ebooks. My breakthrough was finding someone who would mentor me, who then became my adopted Dad an took me in to his IM business. We have since built one of the world's largest privately owned IM Businesses with 67 employees now, but it was all built on the foundation of building our own lists to market to. My Dad has a saying - "Start from scratch an keep on scratching" so start scratching an never give up. Remember you are out to build a business, not starting a hobby. If you want to start a real business you have to put the time an effort into it, the same as you would with a brick an mortar High Street Business. Short cuts lead to failure, you first have to graduate IM Kindergarten before you reap the rewards from graduating IM University. I wish you well for your future.

    Lindy
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    • Hello LindyUK,

      You are every bit right when you say that IM business is no difference from brick & mortar business when it comes to earning trust of customers. In your case it took more than too years and fortune favored you by bringing your Dad in your life. However, waiting for 10 years to establish a way to finally have source for sustainable income would not be completely okay for me.

      You are also right in saying that one should learn as much as they can before expecting to launch a successful IM business just like any other non-digital business. I have been trying to learn about this whole IM scenarios and have quite frankly burned my hands in taking miscalculated steps.

      I believe you would also agree to the fact that majority of senior IM marketers suggests 'money is in the list' which I also agree to a great extent which is why I set out to build this list. Only difference being it wasn't a permission based list. I'll request, and appreciate, your comments, as I have requested from other members in this post, about how to make a clean list without a website and/or submitting articles to Article Directories.

      AM
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  • Only acquire e-mail addresses for a list through ethical and legal means. Does that really need to be said?
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  • Not even worth your time and money if these are names and emails you scraped from the web. You should only practice permission based email marketing.
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  • Id call that spam!
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  • Guess what, you are bound to get, really crappy results.

    I do $800 USD a day online., Through email marketing.

    And if you are not using laser targeted email, and getting fresh laser targeted leads, you will not get the results you are after.

    Heck I would say even if you said your list was 200,000 leads, that might be even worse. For obvious reason.

    Sure you will get sales. Here and there maybe, as those lists have the people that do that, and buy like a robot.

    But realistically you should be trying to garner FRESH leads, every day, from high traffic sources, from people looking to BUY. Like from PPC, PPV, and all that.

    It sounds like this list is from solo ads, or something else like a scraper....and bound to fail. As scraping is well, dodgy, and solo ads, are good, but picture this, they are getting blasted every day with the same deals, and have been exhasted out of their brains.

    I have found out that a 1000 fresh high quality leads, is far better than the sort of list you talk about even if you had 500,000 leads.

    Infact, back in january I made $12,314 from fresh leads from BING PPC, and i only had about 1000 or so. I doubt you would be doing those numbers selling stuff to your list!!! But just saying. There is education here, where it is due, and we all learn the hard way.

    It goes like this.

    scraped leads = well....just plain illegal.
    solo ad leads = ok, but some of them are exhausted.
    Fresh freebie seeker leads = ok
    fresh BUYERS leads = hot stuff ....ZING!!

    anyway, I think you see my point. Very good marketers know the value of getting fresh leads to their business each day. The millionaires are normally getting 1000's of fresh leads each day from paid traffic. And have nice responsiver lists, they do not spam the crap out of.
  • I would recommend you to send them a welcome email first and then start making a good relationship with your subscribers while sending promotional emails. this way you can monetize your list very effectively.
  • Ask yourself this question. I just received an email from someone I never heard of and surely did not subscribe to receive their emails and now they are peddling their wares. What is the first thing you do to that email? Delete or hit the spam button. That is the true value to this list.
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    • Hello Yasir,

      I just kept navigating to another page. Nothing got downloaded.

      AM
  • My question is why would you bother? I know this is a bit brutal but seriously why would you 'garner' emails for which you wouldn't know what to send to?

    It'd be more impressive to have 100 emails for people who opted in willingly then the 100K that you have garnered or i'm guessing taken from directories etc.

    The money really ISN'T in the list man & i'm guessing thats why you've gone after it this way.

    The money is in the value that you provide the list leading to the relationship you build & ultimately thats how you'll get the money you're after.

    Please rid of this list & get back to marketing legally & ethically.

    I say this with nothing but your best interest at heart man. #successwithsamii
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    I have been able to garner almost 100,000 e-mails after a long period of efforts. These e-mails addresses and names are not laser targeted traffic or anything. They are just random IDs from random locations of the world from random walks of like. For example, I got to extract list of employees with email addresses for one of the hospitals in Omaha, Nebraska. My quandary is that I do not know who to send what email, who to sell what product. I use Clickbank.