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Email delivery is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of an Autoresponder.

In fact, an autoresponder can have a lot of features... but if it falls to deliver the message, it's useless.

...or if it delivers with a lot of time delay.

So which is the Autoresponder with the BEST email delivery and which has automations too?


im in doubt between ActiveCampaign and Sendlane and Aweber...
#automations #autoresponder #delivery #email #email delivery
  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    I found aweber to be unfriendly to the user. It was more complicated then necessary. I am unsure about the other two as I have never used them. I currently use rocket responder which has a 20 fee only. List size does not matter. The only thing I do not like is it is double optin only
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
      Originally Posted by mdallen View Post

      I found aweber to be unfriendly to the user. It was more complicated then necessary. I am unsure about the other two as I have never used them. I currently use rocket responder which has a 20 fee only. List size does not matter. The only thing I do not like is it is double optin only
      Double opt in is definately not good.
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  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    Well double optin lowers SPAM complaints and shows they really want to get to you. This weeds out the non-serious people
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Just about every ESP has a free trial option.

    Sign up and test and see for yourself which has the best deliverability.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    If people are NOT opening your emails, then what you are doing is USELESS.

    You need to find a way to get people to open your emails. One way to do that is to give them lots of content that will be useful for them.

    Email titles is also important.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      If people are NOT opening your emails, then what you are doing is USELESS.

      You need to find a way to get people to open your emails. One way to do that is to give them lots of content that will be useful for them.

      Email titles is also important.

      If people do not receive mails, surely they dont open it. I was asking about delivery cause it's a parameter which can we use as a comparision between ARs

      Open rate is influenced by too many factors.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      If people are NOT opening your emails, then what you are doing is USELESS.

      You need to find a way to get people to open your emails. One way to do that is to give them lots of content that will be useful for them.
      And how exactly do they determine that you are giving them lots of content - BEFOR they open your email?

      What comes first - the chicken or the egg?

      Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinflatt
    I am with GetResponse and they don't force double optin. I use both single and double. Their deliverability is probably on a par with Aweber but they are cheaper than Aweber.

    Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author Robsn
    I have used Sendlane for quite a while, but I noticed that my deliverability was rather low and therefore the open rates were horrible... Sure there are a lot of factors of why they are not opening my emails, but after I switched over to Aweber, the open rate was and is much higher.

    What I liked about Sendlane is that they have great opt in page templates which you can use. Aweber is rather limited to what you can do as it comes to opt in pages. I'm not using them anyways (Using OptimizePress for every page).

    Hope that helps,
    Robert
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
      Originally Posted by Robsn View Post

      I have used Sendlane for quite a while, but I noticed that my deliverability was rather low and therefore the open rates were horrible... Sure there are a lot of factors of why they are not opening my emails, but after I switched over to Aweber, the open rate was and is much higher.

      What I liked about Sendlane is that they have great opt in page templates which you can use. Aweber is rather limited to what you can do as it comes to opt in pages. I'm not using them anyways (Using OptimizePress for every page).

      Hope that helps,
      Robert
      Opt in Pages are one of the MOST IMPORTANT factor in Email Marketing. I think you have to use a tool specifically made for that, as you're sayin Optimizepress.

      I personally use Leadpages, cause it has also the feature to support all the traffic you sent to the opt in page, and it has pop ups customizable, and can deliver also freebies etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author adnanmt
      What think u about mailchimp. Can you help me if you use mailchimp. I have just start now email marketing. What you suggests for me.????
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  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    I use rocket responder. They have a flat rate no matter how big your list. I have had no issues with getting delivered or clicked on...
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  • Profile picture of the author adnanmt
    Web have many Autoresponders.
    In fact and in my view when you began start work of Email. Then you can choose "Mailchimp". This is the best Autoresponder. But Aweber is also good Autorespnders
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  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    Mailchimp can be expensive as you grow a large list. They do offer double optin. My girlfriend uses them for her newsletter about planner stickers. She seems to like the features. I have not used them myself though. It does not have a reputation for being the best. Usually you hear Aweber, Getresponse, and Mailchimp in that order
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  • Profile picture of the author Lara Sweet
    i have a lot of email from my blog email list and they are verry responsive, though i am afraid of sending them other sales messages, i thought of selling it out . if you wonder what blog check it out at Ayelasblog

    my email is there if you want to mail me
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  • Profile picture of the author drewgood
    I do single opt-in with Aweber... since I integrate with samcart, I always have to ask one of their techs to make my lists allow single opt-in.

    I had tried mailchimp, but their delivery was never reliable in terms of getting emails into the recipient's main folder.
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  • Profile picture of the author afiliatepartener
    I use AWeber and i am very pleased with their services
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  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    what tools for automation? The whole thing is automated once you set up the email sequence
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  • Profile picture of the author shim333
    I have
    Getresponse
    Mail chimp
    mad mimi
    ActiveCampaign

    I like
    Get response - clear , easy and have chat support 24/7
    ActiveCampaign - clear, advanced tools, also have good support

    Get response count every one in my list, so if i have 5 list and the same user in all - so they count it as 5
    But active campaign count it as 1 - I love this!

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author djayturner85
    I use GetResponse and I think the trick is to only email valuable content to your subscribers and not just email product after product and try to sell them something every single day.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Stewart0
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by James Stewart0 View Post

      IMHO, ActiveCampaign is the best one in these options.
      Corrected for accuracy.

      Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Mendoza
    Which is better GetResponse or ActiveCampaign?
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by Ryan Mendoza View Post

      Which is better GetResponse or ActiveCampaign?
      MailChimp.

      Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan Mendoza
        Thank you @BigFrank, but i only want to know which is better between those two.
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        • Profile picture of the author agmccall
          Originally Posted by Ryan Mendoza View Post

          Thank you @BigFrank, but i only want to know which is better between those two.
          The one that has the pricing and features that you want and need.

          There is so much talk about what autoresponder is best for deliver-ability when it is usually the email itself. Just start out with the basics. The "From Email Address" can cause emails to be send to spam. The subject line can also cause this to happen.

          Focus on sending quality emails first to see if your deliverability increases

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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by Ryan Mendoza View Post

          Thank you @BigFrank, but i only want to know which is better between those two.
          Apparently my sardonic wit was wasted on you. There is no answer to your question since it is simply a matter of opinion. They both offer free trials. Try them both and get the answer to your question based on real life experience instead of asking others. We have NO IDEA what your particular needs are.

          I guess you'll be asking which is the best web hosting company, next.

          Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Shahed Zamanwf
    I am with interspire email marketer. No matter how long your lists is. It has no issues with getting delivered.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    The THREAD is about email DELIVERY rate.

    Not the open rate

    Not which AR is better: from which angle? it's a matter of opinions.

    Not if it's good or not to promote products after products only: we all know it's not good.


    DELIVERABILITY is the only parameter which matters for all of us: if the mails are delivered, anything else is useless.


    OK, the best one seems Aweber.

    But regarding SendLane and AC?
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  • Profile picture of the author refon
    I use Aweber and Getresponse and notice that Aweber has better delivery rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author rajhu
    Unfortunately Aweber deliverability is nowhere near what it used to be.

    I have been using them for over a decade now.

    For instance even as of today I can send you information on some of their servers where they are blacklisted and have poor Sender Scores.

    So while Aweber does have MANY servers that get Sender Scores in the high 90's consistently (with 100 being a perfect score). They also have a series of servers that it appears they put their lower quality traffic on.

    And if your emails get sent from those servers then you're going to have deliverability issues. According to Aweber they distribute their emails on these servers randomly. Which makes zero sense whatsoever since over the years they've kept their lower number IP's with near perfect scores yet other IP's can be stuck with sender scores in the 70's, 60's and even lower sometimes.

    See below from just a little research I did today.

    The number in bold is the Sender Score. 1 or 0 (I'm not exactly sure) is the lowest and 100 is the highest or best score possible. As you can see the first server listed below has a horrible 59 Sender Score.

    You can get your own free Sender Score account to test IP Address or sender reputation here:
    https://senderscore.org/

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    1/11/17

    204.194.223.153 - 59 (Complaints = HIGH, Filtered = Medium, Spam Traps = 221, hanging around this very low score for at least a month. Was even slightly lower at one point.) 1 blacklist

    204.194.223.152 - 70 (Complaints = HIGH, Filtered = Medium, Spam Traps = 149, has been in this score range for at least a month) Five blacklists - KISA, NoSolicitado, SORBS NEW, SORBS SPAM, SPAMCOP

    204.194.223.151 - 72 (Complaints = HIGH, Filtered = HIGH, Spam Traps = 169, this score range for at least a month.) 1 blacklist
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    But as I said they also have IP addresses with very good Sender Scores and no spam complaints.

    Here's an example:

    204.194.223.14 - 98 and no blacklists.

    So if you guys think you're getting great deliverability from Aweber I can tell you that is false in my experience. They started going downhill two years ago within 10 days after they started allowing new customers to import their email lists without the subscribers having to confirm again.

    That was the beginning of poor email deliverability for Aweber. Now maybe they're still better than some of these other companies. But I can tell you they're nowhere close to how good they used to be.

    Also at least one ISP (I think it's Earthlink but I could have forgotten) does not even accept emails from any Aweber list.

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  • Profile picture of the author avemfly619619
    i think mailchimp is the best site for email delivery. they give 12000 mail in a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shoaib Khokhar
    My experience with Mumara Email client is much better and faster, it is advanced and most accurate in sending emails, minimizing the spam plus its detailed reports are very handy. I suggest to give it a look.
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  • Profile picture of the author opahopa333
    try out webmail (email sender bots)
    they have [retty high inbox rate cause emails sent throught them use the email services's DKIM,SPF, IP's
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    DELIVERY = AR ability to send to clients mail inbox

    DELIVERABILITY = Ability to reach the main INBOX section, not spam or updates, or whatsover (it's up to you most, the subject, "from to" section etc)
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