Buying Email Lists

No, you should build your list yourself, then you know it is a genuine list of people who want to receive information from you.

I buy lists... you need to buy them in 24 hours. the fresher the better, this way you can quickly interact with them. The only thing is you need to make sure you have legit leads from legit buyers, some sellers mix in old leads for you so make sure you are asking about the time stamp and waht site they came from.

I've been buying data for over 16 years.

Many will tell you not to do it. I personally think that most have just read that it's bad to do and then they preach it as if it's the truth or they just didn't know what they were doing and it didn't work for them. However, I'm not saying everyone should do it, as building your own opt-in list may be the better choice.

There is more to it than just buying data and sending it. It's kind of like an iceberg, where everyone can see the obvious 10% that is above the surface, but it's the other 90% that is below the surface and no one sees...underlying principles and strategies in the background that can make or break you.

One of the most important things that you can do is to not buy data blindly. Always buy a sample and test how it performs. Then you will have an idea of how long it is likely to take you to get to break-even and what the data is really worth to you.

Additionally, all legit data comes with a source URL, which is where the data was actually generated from. If the data has many source URLs, then you want to break it down at test each individually. That way you know how each performs, where if you mailed it as a whole you won't have accurate stats.

If you were buying traffic, you would never mix your sources together because some will likely perform poorly and others will perform well. It's the same for buying data.

It's not for everyone and there is more to it than meets the eye. However, done right it can be extremely profitable.

I always stay away from buying email list, they are usually spammed out already and response are usually poor. The best thing is to build your own email list, it will be more rewarding in the end and may take some effort. Trust me, it is well worth the effort.

Aaron, I have never bought lists but used to buy bulk email leads from a site called Key2net.biz...a Canadian owned company.

A guy by the name of Richard owns it.

Didn't get rich with them but did have some success with them...made some sales.

But then internet service providers started getting very strict and this made most bulk emailers obsolete.

Many others mentioned it already... you shouldn't buy a list, it's always better to build it yourself.

There are 2 reasons from my point of view for that opinion:

#1: When you build your own list, people who join your list know you, they will start trusting you, some of them will like you, some will start buying stuff from you.
#2: Personally I've tried myself to buy some leads, but what I found is that when I start writing these leads, I don't have a good feeling doing so, simply because I am aware of reason #1... they don't know me, and because I'm in this online business for a very long time, I am also aware of the fact that eventually these guys are on 100's of other lists too, and that's ok, it becomes hard to build a list of people who have not subscribed to other people's list, the point I try to make is that these leads are probably very unresponsive... yeah maybe some will open your mail, depending how good you are in copywriting, some will click your links, and some might buy from you.

If I were in your shoes I would do this:

1.) I would start building a small list of 20-100 people in your niche
2.) There are million ways to do this, I'm not gonna cover them here
3.) Then I would start communicating with them, introduce yourself, let them become part of your life, tell them about the good and the bad times, is there anything you can teach them - if so, give them advice in doing stuff, maybe you find a good Youtube video from a guy or a gal that might help them, maybe a blog article... it doesn't always have to be your content. That's how you build a relationship.
4.) In the meantime I would start learning how to turn your knowledge into a digital product so you can sell it online. Chances are I'm gonna put something together that will cover exactly how to create a digital product from scratch.
5.) Once you've created the product, I would start with the launch process I've outlined in the following thread => http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...otal-noob.html

That's it.

There are many crawlers available on the Internet. The software uses specific keywords and searches for email regarding them on google. The keywords should relate to your products. You can create a list from the e-mails gathered and if you are not spammy some may adhere to your newsletters. It's important to unsubscribe people who show no interest in what you are promoting. This is not the most orthodox solution, you're better off by building your own list. What I previously mentioned is how most list sellers build their packs.

Buying email list is not a good idea, I had few bad experience, most of the time I got a dead email list.
create you own list by using Getresponse or Aweber autoresponder

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NEVER NEVER Buy and Email list!

Instead use solo ads: go to clickonomy or fb groups. Far better

Whether it's a good idea or not depends on three things:

> The list itself
> Your process
> Your budget.

First, the list itself.

Legitimate lists of the type Diablo describes can be profitable.

If you're talking about those "99 million email addresses for $99" scams (which are often collected using the kind of scraper described earlier), you do better to simply take a $100 bill and set it on fire. At least it will keep you warm for a minute.

Next, your process.

If you simply start mailbombing the purchased list with random offers from a stranger, that's called spam.

On the other hand, if you start with a niche-related list and send them a legitimate introduction, perhaps with an offer for a relevant lead magnet, you will convert a percentage of them to your house list. (This is the list many here are telling you to build instead of renting or buying lists.)

Last, your budget.

If you hit on a profitable offer to a lead source on the very first try, pack your bags and head for the nearest casino. The gods are smiling on you.

Learning to convert third party emails (and the people behind them) into prospects, customers and loyal repeat customers usually takes some trial and error. Which means ongoing investment. Are your pockets deep enough to allow you to climb the learning curve?

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For the poster advocating solo ads instead of buying/renting lists, all a solo ad is is a message sent to a rented list. The only difference is that the list owner handles the mailing.

Back in the day, we didn't call them "solo ads". We called them "endorsed mailings." Done properly, they worked well then and they work well now. Done poorly, and they were a reliable way to waste your marketing budget quickly.

very true.

And if you scrape, you gotta verify.

It will tear up your sending stats if you don't.

Bad idea. Stay far away.

Never tried this before, but I would still be doubtful if those bought email lists are even legit. On the other hand, you could invest some time and build up your own email list.

There are a lot of dodgy list sellers out there who provide nothing but fake email addresses, so be careful what you are doing.

I am inclined to what Steve says. Unless you have lots of experience with purchasing lists after building one yourself, I would start off building and adding one subscriber at a time with your OWN list.

It's the best way to develop your "voice" and the best way to get people to really know who you are and what you can do for them

never buy them, build them from scratch.

I'm sure if you are like Diablo and have experience and know what you are doing, it can be a good idea and very profitable.

For someone like myself with a largely affiliate marketing background, I like to build my own lists. Not only is it profitable for me, I actually find it fun to do.

My answer is if, and only if, you are highly knowledgeable, experienced, and know what you are buying and how to email them properly, then go for it.

If not, just build your own.

One thing you definitely need to know is that if you buy lists don't try to use any of the popular AR companies because purchased leads are a BIG no-no with them. In fact, most of them would prefer you to have double opt-in leads only, although most give you the choice to go with single opt-in if you wish.

Buying a targeted email list is definitely worth it.
You need to send to the purchased email list with a valid email sending platform. Traditional ESPs won't allow purchased email lists.
A quick google search will help you find the right sending provider.
Good luck.

I never built my own email list at any time in a long career. Life's too short for that. I buy lists from reputable list brokers of people that have opted-in to receive third-party emails and have done very well for myself using this method. Since I offered very disparate products and services over the years, one list would have been virtually worthless to me.

Building a list is only a smart thing if you are going to constantly present them with one type of product that may be interested in over and over. If your next offering is for something completely different that is not appropriate to the people on your current list, what do you do then? Starve.

You can spend your time building a list, or selling to people on a list you have purchased for a specific offer.

The belief that it is imperative to spend years building your own list is one of the biggest myths in marketing. Unfortunately, it's a myth that won't die and one that keeps people from even getting started in IM as the challenge of building a good list, especially in a reasonable amount of time is beyond the grasp of most people.

If you believe that building your own list is the most important thing you can do, then you might as well subscribe to the other bogus belief that as long as you never quit, you can never fail. Good luck with that.

You can buy / send U.S. 3rd party data totally legally.

Been doing it for 17+ years.

I have never read the entire GDPR, but I highly doubt there is a 3rd party option within it. Makes no difference to me as all I buy is U.S. data.

Very few understand how buying / monetizing data works. Most that say to never buy a list probably just read it and then preach it as the truth. I'm not saying it's for everyone and for most they should likely just build their own opt-in list. But done right, buying / monetizing data can be extremely profitable.

Data buyers should not be confused with spammers.

Data buyer:

Spammer:

I started selling lists (peel and stick labels) before the Internet even existed. If you provide excellent records the repeat rate of customers is insane.

But, like a lot of things, there are dishonest people who give it a bad name.

Good advice opted in, thanks for clarifying the value of paid-for-data

Buying email lists suck. You're better off with lead generation advertising. If you want to buy a list, buy from the SRDS and send a postcard campaign to lead people to your squeeze/landing/free sign up page.

Isn't good idea to buy email lists. Probably that you buy the list with the people who will not be interested in your product or, perhaps, there will be a lot of "dead" users.

You can buy email list. but before purchasing ask for samples so that you can check whether the email list is legit or not.

And also, it really gets old reading from a bunch of people in this section that buying an email list is a bad idea.

These people fall into the following category:

1) They have failed buying lists themselves.
2) They have been giving bad information from other people.

Buying lists works fine, you can generate millions of dollars per year doing it and sending to those lists. I, and some other prominent members in this group are advocates for buying lists and confirm they do work.

I am always happy to help other members with their strategy on how to email purchased lists. Just post the questions and Ill be happy to provide further input.

When you buy them, it will be a dead list, I tried before and I had to delte over 200 as they were as dead as they come. build your own, go and write 13 emails and give good value upload it to your auto responder and then get a solo or two to start of with.....

Don't buy email list unless it has been verified by 3rd email scrubber such as Briteverify and MailboxValidator. Strive for quality and not quantity.

it's bad idea! you should create your own permission email list

I was always against buying a mailing list. Especially from people that write to your mailbox with this offer. It'd better make a list on your own, there're so many lead generation tools and databases that you can make contacts' lookup, validate emails and then only to send your offer.
Tools like Snov.io, Reply, Hunter and databases as Crunchbase and Angelist can help you. I mentioned the most popular projects that I know and use.
But if you decide to buy email lists do it only in email marketing agencies or companies that are checked and have feedbacks from previous customers.

Probably you don't know anything about buying targeted, opted-in lists.

People do not buy lists because they have had bad experience.
Most list brokers out there are selling junk, thats a fact. I would say 90-95% of people selling data are selling you unknown, recycled junk.
These people have been ripped off before and do not have any understand of how to monetize purchased data.
First and foremost, you need a reliable list broker.
Secondly, you need to hygiene and verify the data before using it.
Lastly, you need to know how to deliver and have offers that convert to those data sets.

The main reason people still used purchased data is the cost.
There is no possible way for someone who is running PPC or FB ads or something, that could build a list as targeted at the scale that I do when purchasing data. Its simply not possible.

If you optimize your costs and processed on purchased data, there is simply nothing as cost effective out there, and the ROI is so much higher then building your own list and/or using managed email servers that have huge CPM costs in order to send that data.

Purchasing data is not for everyone, but don't listen to all the nay sayers in this forum about it. They simply cannot make it work, but I can attest, and I know a few other reliable and active members on this forum will advocate and agree with me that there is nothing better in terms of ROI.

I know this discussion comes up a lot, and I am a strong advocate for purchased data. I will also let anyone to come forward and show me some method they have that is cheaper to build your own list then just buy it and run optimized processes to monetize it.