BUYING A TARGETED EMAIL LIST?? THOUGHTS?

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My Question: BUYING A EMAIL LIST.....CAN I BOOST MY AFFILIATE MARKETING AND MY OWN BLOG AND VIDEOS WHEN PURCHASING A TARGETED LIST?

So along with "Creating Value" making my own blog and youtube videos. I purchased a list of 6,173 targeted people in my niche.
The list is CLEAN

I wanted to know how can I send emails to a purchased list? Are there specific service providers to use that you know of and used that are trusted. (A simple google search shows me alot I just wanted to ask someone personally)

What were your experiences and results buying a list for self promotion for videos and or affiliate offers?

I plan on disclosing who I am and what I do providing valuable content like anyone else the only thing is I bought my list while implementing all my other efforts.

I don't have the intention of blasting to them everyday....
Many businesses buy cold leads and market to them ex. Cold Calling etc

Thoughts?
#buying #email #list #targeted #thoughts
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnVianny
    BUYING an email list is the WORST thing you can do.

    You better create in on scratch. In oder to make money with email marketing you need a responsive list of people who have given consent and opted in your opt in page.

    So, you better have an opt in page, a good front end offer, a powerful back end offers, and definately buy solo ad traffic if u want instant and fast opt ins.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I've been monetizing purchased email data promoting affiliate / CPA offers for over 18 years.

    How targeted is the data / what are you promoting?

    I promote PPL (pay per lead) offers and the data I get is targeted to the exact offers that are promoted. Actually, the data comes first. Then based on what it is targeted specifically for, then a 100% relevant offer is sent. For example, I will get data of users that are interested in life insurance and they are sent a life insurance offer.

    The key reason I mainly promote PPL offers is that no credit card / purchase is required. All a user has to do is fill out a form. So conversion rates are typically much higher compared to offers that require a sale to be made. This and highly targeted data is why I have done extremely well doing it.

    However, there is more to it than meets the eye. It's just not as simple as buying data and sending it.
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    • Profile picture of the author BornLeader
      I keep getting banned though when I try to email them
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
    As I think you'll find most of these comments agreeing to, paid lists are not a good idea.

    Cutting corners doesn't work in IM the same as it doesn't work in most areas of life. Paid lists is cutting a corner.

    Build your own list of passionate and willing fans. You will thank yourself later for ultimately saving time...and probably making more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Primescout
    Buying email lists should be avoided even if they are laser targeted because there is a big possibility of you or anyone practicing this method finding themselves in trouble. First of all data tends to be outdated.. You really don't and can't know how much time before was that email list created.. And even worse lists may contain leads that have not opted in to receive communications from your company and may result in you having trouble with data infringement -> legal trouble

    If after all that you still want to do this you probably should use Getresponse as they have not as strict spam policy as other services and your emails will not ( not all at least ) end up in spam folders
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  • Profile picture of the author florishing
    Pity you bought the list. Sometimes it is a good thing to learn from one's mistake. Take heart though as you are learning what to do and how not to do it. List buying is one way not to build your email list.
    Having said that,
    What did you buy the list for? You already have a niche you want to promote so go right ahead and give them value. What will your solution do for them? Produce a valuable piece of free content to them. Then go to Aweber or any other provider of your choice:
    1. get an account
    2. follow the directives on the site to create a list
    3. create an opt in form
    4. go back to your website,
    5. place the form glaringly on your site
    6. Then go back to your list seller after writing your email copy making sure the link to your optin form is on your copy.
    7. Send the email to the list from the console of the list seller(They should have an interface where you can plugin your details.
    8. Anyone from that list you bought who is a real person and wants your free content, will optin.
    Don't hold your breath. Most bought lists will not work.
    The steps above will help you with subsequent paid or free traffic to your websites. Godspeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Simple fact...the average marketer has no clue how buying / monetizing data works / how to do it successfully. Most that say to never buy a list likely just read it somewhere and then preaches it as the truth. I'm not saying it's for everyone and for many they should likely just build their own opt-in list. But done right, buying / monetizing data can be extremely profitable.
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    • Profile picture of the author GudeJob
      Thanks Diablo. Can you elaborate on monetizing purchased lists? I plan on using Udimi again. The first time I used them I had a job-work-employment-resume offer and bought 200 leads, but had no hits. I later found out that the provider was a make-money provider. Please elaborate on what you do and how someone can use your services. Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adella Pugh
    I did that a long time ago and it was a waste of money and generated a lot of spam. I would not do it again.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by Adella Pugh View Post

      I did that a long time ago and it was a waste of money and generated a lot of spam. I would not do it again.
      You clearly did it wrong. Data purchases, when done correctly, and more profitable then any type of single or double opt in campaign you can run, hands down. Have also been doing this for years, its more work, more headache, and more money.

      What are you motivated by?
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      • Profile picture of the author GudeJob
        Originally Posted by ProducerK View Post

        You clearly did it wrong. Data purchases, when done correctly, and more profitable then any type of single or double opt in campaign you can run, hands down. Have also been doing this for years, its more work, more headache, and more money.

        What are you motivated by?
        ProducerK,

        Can you elaborate on data purchases and how you did it right?

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
          Originally Posted by GudeJob View Post

          ProducerK,

          Can you elaborate on data purchases and how you did it right?

          Thanks
          Well data purchases I simply mean buying third party data in order to monetize.

          How did I do it right? I have spent the last 8 years learning everything I can about email marketing, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on testing systems and data and learning what works and what does not work.

          But as I have said before and will say again, there is no other niche online that even comes close to the ROI you can get on email and third party data if you can inbox and deliver well. NOTHING!
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  • Purchasing an email list has just as many pros and cons like anything else in the world.

    There will always be a chance you get nothing out of it, but that's how business works. You won't know unless you try.

    In saying that, there are more scammers then ever, and more people claiming they have targeted audiences when they don't.

    Do your research.

    The question I have are you purchasing email addresses or just utilizing someone else's large email list?

    The idea is to get the email addresses. Even if the list isn't great, doesn't mean you cannot monetize it.

    You may just need to spend more time separating your list, and being more personable when sending emails then just sending sales emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well the hard part its that you need to create a good relationship with them as they dont know you .start by adding them real value and have patiwnce with the promotion
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    Do NOT buy an email list. It's a slippery slope with the CAN SPAM laws. Plus, it's shady.

    Instead, use solo ads or paid advertising to drive people to your capture page and build your own list. That is what I do and suggest.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by chuckholmes View Post

      Do NOT buy an email list. It's a slippery slope with the CAN SPAM laws. Plus, it's shady.

      Instead, use solo ads or paid advertising to drive people to your capture page and build your own list. That is what I do and suggest.
      You are wrong.

      Using third party data does not violate can spam in any way.

      You know what does violate can spam?

      *Having misleading or forged headers...
      *Not having a single click opt out process or no opt out at all
      *Scraping data
      *Writing blatantly misleading subject lines
      *Hijacking ips and web proxies to mail from webmail accounts

      That is the kind of stuff thats going to get you in trouble with can spam.

      Also, its shady? Says who?

      And then to say do solo ads, all solo ads are are a bunch of people in a circle jerk selling each other clicks and sign ups so they can build their own lists. Any decent solo ad provider is going to have the same users and click as the next guy.

      Solo ads are awesome because it allows you to feel like your making money (And maybe make a few bucks at it at the same time)

      I can guarantee you there is not a single solo ad provider who is making anywhere close to the biggest email marketers in the game. Do you know guys in solo ads doing 100 million a month in revenue? Didn't think so.

      Sorry for the harsh response, but its just a constant flow of bad and false information on this email marketing forum. I know I am one of the few people here who feel third party mailing is fine, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts about it, but when you say its illegal against can spam, your telling people information that is simply not true.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        Originally Posted by ProducerK View Post

        You are wrong.

        Using third party data does not violate can spam in any way.

        You know what does violate can spam?

        *Having misleading or forged headers...
        *Not having a single click opt out process or no opt out at all
        *Scraping data
        *Writing blatantly misleading subject lines
        *Hijacking ips and web proxies to mail from webmail accounts

        That is the kind of stuff thats going to get you in trouble with can spam.

        Also, its shady? Says who?

        And then to say do solo ads, all solo ads are are a bunch of people in a circle jerk selling each other clicks and sign ups so they can build their own lists. Any decent solo ad provider is going to have the same users and click as the next guy.

        Solo ads are awesome because it allows you to feel like your making money (And maybe make a few bucks at it at the same time)

        I can guarantee you there is not a single solo ad provider who is making anywhere close to the biggest email marketers in the game. Do you know guys in solo ads doing 100 million a month in revenue? Didn't think so.

        Sorry for the harsh response, but its just a constant flow of bad and false information on this email marketing forum. I know I am one of the few people here who feel third party mailing is fine, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts about it, but when you say its illegal against can spam, your telling people information that is simply not true.
        I agree

        Except that I'm more than happy to earn sufficient to "substitute my income" (a realistic goal), and that's how I market/promo my Brand, encouraging my subscribers to have a similar outlook (if they do become very incredibly wealthy, good luck to them).

        Becoming a multizillionaire is A) beyond the capability of 99% of WF members, and B) comes with too much baggage... and a staggering amount of responsibility X 10
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      Originally Posted by chuckholmes View Post

      Instead, use solo ads or paid advertising to drive people to your capture page and build your own list. That is what I do and suggest.
      Good advise!

      Building your OWN email list can be hard work but it will DEFINITELY pay off in the end!
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  • Profile picture of the author brucey666
    Do not buy email list, the least worst thing to do is to buy solo ads because they are already hot prospects and they are ready and interested in your niche products.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by brucey666 View Post

      Do not buy email list, the least worst thing to do is to buy solo ads because they are already hot prospects and they are ready and interested in your niche products.
      Solo ads are not hot prospects.
      While they may join your list, your going to find that rarely these people are going to turn into sales, and the few that do, won't be enough to make an ROI on your cost to acquire them, at least not on a first run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
    Originally Posted by BornLeader View Post

    My Question: BUYING A EMAIL LIST.....CAN I BOOST MY AFFILIATE MARKETING AND MY OWN BLOG AND VIDEOS WHEN PURCHASING A TARGETED LIST?

    So along with "Creating Value" making my own blog and youtube videos. I purchased a list of 6,173 targeted people in my niche.
    The list is CLEAN

    I wanted to know how can I send emails to a purchased list? Are there specific service providers to use that you know of and used that are trusted. (A simple google search shows me alot I just wanted to ask someone personally)

    What were your experiences and results buying a list for self promotion for videos and or affiliate offers?

    I plan on disclosing who I am and what I do providing valuable content like anyone else the only thing is I bought my list while implementing all my other efforts.

    I don't have the intention of blasting to them everyday....
    Many businesses buy cold leads and market to them ex. Cold Calling etc

    Thoughts?
    My thought is that you're the "BornLeader".... you show us ;-)
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  • As others have noted, It's not a very good idea, unless you execute it perfectly - causing little annoyance.

    Buying lists is never a good idea - these people have no interest in what you have to say (sorry), because otherwise they would have expressed their consent.

    If people you're emailing are EU citizens, you might even be eligible to fines.

    Give this post a read if you're willing to learn more - https://www.sender.net/gdpr-what-are...u-should-know/
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by Danas Kurlavičius View Post

      As others have noted, It's not a very good idea, unless you execute it perfectly - causing little annoyance.

      Buying lists is never a good idea - these people have no interest in what you have to say (sorry), because otherwise they would have expressed their consent.

      If people you're emailing are EU citizens, you might even be eligible to fines.

      Give this post a read if you're willing to learn more - https://www.sender.net/gdpr-what-are...u-should-know/
      Also incorrect - People who buy lists still make millions and millions and millions of dollars per year.

      Buying lists is not for everyone, but its not a bad idea. People who buy lists and use them effectively make stupid money.

      Buying lists is simply a numbers game, the more people who see it and you inbox, the more money you make.

      Might not look nice, but the cash is huge.
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      • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
        Originally Posted by ProducerK View Post

        Also incorrect - People who buy lists still make millions and millions and millions of dollars per year.

        Buying lists is not for everyone, but its not a bad idea. People who buy lists and use them effectively make stupid money.

        Buying lists is simply a numbers game, the more people who see it and you inbox, the more money you make.

        Might not look nice, but the cash is huge.
        YUP!

        There are others than me and PK that are in the data monetization business on WF that advocate buying data. But the simple fact is most marketers have been conditioned from the negative input of those that tried it and had no idea what they were doing and failed into thinking that buying a list is bad and there's no way it will ever work. Plus there are those and probably the bulk, that simply read somewhere that it doesn't work and now preach it as if it is nothing but the truth.

        The reality and most important takeaway that PK and I say is that it's not for everyone. You have to learn how the game is played. Those that do, have the potential to make insane money / ROI.
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        • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
          Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

          YUP!

          There are others than me and PK that are in the data monetization business on WF that advocate buying data. But the simple fact is most marketers have been conditioned from the negative input of those that tried it and had no idea what they were doing and failed into thinking that buying a list is bad and there's no way it will ever work. Plus there are those and probably the bulk, that simply read somewhere that it doesn't work and now preach it as if it is nothing but the truth.

          The reality and most important takeaway that PK and I say is that it's not for everyone. You have to learn how the game is played. Those that do, have the potential to make insane money / ROI.
          Hey DB,

          We are in the minority here for sure, but I am glad we work together to set the record straight.

          There is no online marketing industry that has the potential ROI that email can offer, even in bulk. Allow me to elaborate:

          FB/LI/IG....PPC.....10-100% ROI MAX - With huge potential to lose money and requires ongoing optimization

          Solo Ads - Circle Jerk, lots of clicks, no real conversions, barely a real business. Anyone doing solo ads running clicks to a real advertising would be shut down within minutes as click quality would be terrible.

          PPV/Media Buy - Same as PPC, just impressions instead of clicks..... Probably harder then PPC.

          Call Center - Much better ROI then the above, but upfront costs for numbers, minutes, agents, data, DNC, and more is costly up front, ROI can reach 500% though but be prepared to spend tens of thousands up front.

          SMS - Lots of legal BS, carriers blocking, need really high quality first party data, TCPA, big up front cost, but ROI can be good.

          Email - With experience, low outlay of costs, data can be obtained cheap with good sources, and ROI can reach up to 50,000% monthly. There is nothing in the online space that comes close to email.

          But please note, third party emailing is not easy, and not for people who have no money to test and lose. Third party email is a grind, but after you do it for a decade and almost two decades for DB, you figure out what works and what does not work.

          Anyone and everyone who says third party emailing is a bad idea, are simply people who are ignorant to the fact that people are making millions of dollars doing it right before your eyes.

          While reading this - Check your spambox and note how many hundreds of emails are in there. When that box stops filling up, you will know email is dead.

          People do not send out bulk email because its fun, they send it because it making money. When they stop making money, your spambox will be clean.

          Basic economics people.

          Some people like to get on their high horse and call it illegal and frowned upon etc etc etc, but at the end of the day, you can do it legally, and well, why would you care what other people think when you're making millions. Just sayin....

          To all the haters, I salute you. All you do is keep less competition for me and allow me and DB to make money easier. Thank you for doing what you do.
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