MailChimp alternatives

by WF- Enzo Administrator
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It's 2019, and there are sorts of email marketing tools available. And MailChimp is still top of mind when we all look for an email marketing tool. On the other side of the coin, MailChimp is very ubiquitous and some might not find it effective at all. If I was to run a startup firm and I'll send an email blast to my prospective customers, what alternatives to MailChimp would you suggest?
#alternatives #email marketing #mailchimp
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  • Profile picture of the author sgalla414
    Convertkit or Kajabi
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  • Profile picture of the author monica geller
    Here are some of the alternatives for mailchimp:
    • omnisend
    • sendinblue
    • mailjet
    • campaign monitor
    • aweber
    • constant contact
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    • Profile picture of the author Sherwoods Forests
      send in blue is impossible.

      Has no way to export a list.
      Really poor documentation.
      Crap filtering. (If I have an Opt_In date, and want to search it for people who opted in more than 3 years ago, I have to convert that to days ago.)
      No clear way to contact them.
      No community forum.
      No obvious way to tag contacts.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
    I'm currently trying to decide on which i want to use as an autoresponder for the first time: mail chimp or aweber. For a brand new person using an autoresponder, which of those two options do you think would be best for me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by MichaelQuinn View Post

      I'm currently trying to decide on which i want to use as an autoresponder for the first time: mail chimp or aweber. For a brand new person using an autoresponder, which of those two options do you think would be best for me?
      If you're planning to do any affiliate marketing or get involved in MMO, stay away from MailChimp. That's against their TOS.

      Other than that, look for an autoresponder that offers a free trial period so you can test the service and see if it fits for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        If you're planning to do any affiliate marketing or get involved in MMO, stay away from MailChimp. That's against their TOS.

        Other than that, look for an autoresponder that offers a free trial period so you can test the service and see if it fits for you.
        Awesome thank you, I would not have known that! I was originally considering Aweber, and Affiliate Marketing and MMO is exactly what I want to do lol, so would Aweber be a better option?
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by MichaelQuinn View Post

          Awesome thank you, I would not have known that! I was originally considering Aweber, and Affiliate Marketing and MMO is exactly what I want to do lol, so would Aweber be a better option?
          Aweber has been around for years and many marketers recommend it. Whether it's right for your business depends on what you want from it and how fast you intend to grow. All I'll add is that if email marketing is part of your long-term strategy, choosing an autoresponder service that will be able to cope with your intended growth should be a major consideration. Although it's possible to do, transferring your email database to another company down the line is a PITA.

          Other than that, you'll find plenty of threads on autoreponders if you do a forum search as this is a perennial topic.
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          • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            Aweber has been around for years and many marketers recommend it. Whether it's right for your business depends on what you want from it and how fast you intend to grow. All I'll add is that if email marketing is part of your long-term strategy, choosing an autoresponder service that will be able to cope with your intended growth should be a major consideration. Although it's possible to do, transferring your email database to another company down the line is a PITA.

            Other than that, you'll find plenty of threads on autoreponders if you do a forum search as this is a perennial topic.
            Thank you Frank. I think I'll give it a try and see if it's going to be a good fit. I appreciate the advice about considering what I want to do with it long term, I was really only thinking in the short term at the moment about figuring out how to use it. I appreciate your response.
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  • Profile picture of the author dborg9
    Mailerlite may be another one to have a look at
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  • Well I often sit here in the Email Marketing forum and find out that people are looking for alternatives. But you have to specify what are you trying to accomplish and details about your list.
    I can suggest our service but without details, asking people in here would be like typing in google "Mailchimp alternatives" and getting the same results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sherwoods Forests
      Ok, I've been searching for a better alternative to Mail Chimp.
      I've been using mailchimp sporadically for several years. I'm now at the point where I'm running out of free address slots.
      Thinking to squeak by for another year or so, I went to prune my list.
      MC doesn't give you tools for that.
      You can 'archive' addresses but they still show up in the list.
      You can't easily move through your list. If you want to take an action on a subset, you have to select the ones you want, one click at a time per hundred addresses.
      There is no good way to filter what you are seeing. E.g. Show me all the addresses that have been signed up for 2 or more years that have under a 50% click rate on any of the links.
      Even on a wide display, you can't see all the columns -- they cut off the page at something like 1024 pixels.

      So, I'm looking at other emailers.

      I don't send often. 2-4 times a year. So I'm maybe sending 7000 emails per year. If I can get organized, this will increase to 8 times per year: Monthly from February through May, bimonthly the rest of the year (Tree farmer. Very seasonal)

      Right now I'm looking at:
      Mailjet: 6000 emails per month (but only 200/day) This would be good for years.
      MailerLite: 12,000 emails/month free version. But lower deliverability compared to some.
      SendGrid. Dedicated SMTP server. But slow customer support.
      SendInBlue. Import was straight forward. 300 messages/day in free version. (So a newsletter would take a week to send. No big deal.

      Criteria
      Contact Management
      Needs to be able to export list as CSV or excel spreadsheet.
      Filtering: I want to be able to do compound searches: Show me contacts that have been on the list for 3 years but have an opening rate under 50%
      Sorting: Sort the entire list by last date they opened an email.
      Tagging: Allow tagging each contact with multiple tags.
      Easy movement through list.
      Should be easy to download a subset of the list as an excel file, modify it, and upload.
      Unique subject line for each recipient. When someone replies, gmail groups all replies with the same subject line into a single conversation.
      Easy to use templates.
      Customer Support
      Good searchable documentation or help system. Two word searches shouldn't give me 500 articles. Nor should I have to read everything in a tiny sidebar.
      Clear way to contact them.
      Community forum for users
      Pricing
      Must have a free level with the capacity of 2500 messages per month.
      Price of under 2c/message
      Graceful transition between free and paid versions. (E.g. MC you can have a list of 2000 that you can send to free, but at 2001 the best you can do is to go on their pay-as-you-go plan where you pay 3 cents each for all 2001 messages.


      Immediate rejects:
      ActiveCampaign. No free starter plan
      Campaign Monitor. No free starter plan. Complicated.
      ConvertKit. Aimed at ecommerce (I want newsletter functionality) Starts at $30/month
      iContact. $14/month to start but only 500 subscribers.
      MailerLite $10/month for 1000 subscribers.

      Other Rejects
      SendinBlue. Import was straight forward. 300 messages/day in free version. (So a newsletter would take a week to send. No big deal.
      Rejected now.
      Has no way to export a list.
      Really poor documentation.
      Crap filtering. (If I have an Opt_In date, and want to search it for people who opted in more than 3 years ago, I have to convert that to days ago.)
      No clear way to contact them.
      No community forum.
      No obvious way to tag contacts.
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  • Profile picture of the author KrisKay
    Honestly I have been using MarketHero and once you learn how to use it, I doubt you'd want to use anything else.
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    If you are using wordpress, mailpoet is the best
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    I use MailPoet for a while bro Ill advice it
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  • I've used Aweber for several years. They are alright, but are a little expensive. I recently started using Sendgrid. So far I like them.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
    I'm learning how to use GetResponse currently and they have a free 30 day trial so that's cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author williammar237
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    MailPoet is the best tool. I have been using MailPoet and once you know how to use it, then you are not used any other tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Umangpharma
    For me and my company, Mailchimp is the best tool for Email Marketing until now.

    Because it provides
    Email,
    Ad,
    Landing Page,
    Automated Email,
    Postcard,
    Social Post,
    Signup form
    This all is of great importance for email marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by Umangpharma View Post

      For me and my company, Mailchimp is the best tool for Email Marketing until now.

      Because it provides
      Email,
      Ad,
      Landing Page,
      Automated Email,
      Postcard,
      Social Post,
      Signup form
      This all is of great importance for email marketing.
      Good autoresponders also provide those things

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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Since they don't allow affiliate marketing I've never used them other than I set up a free account out of curiosity to test their deliverability.

    I do know someone that had a 500K+ list with mailchimp and they moved over to activecampaign.com not long ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
      Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

      Since they don't allow affiliate marketing I've never used them other than I set up a free account out of curiosity to test their deliverability.

      I do know someone that had a 500K+ list with mailchimp and they moved over to activecampaign.com not long ago.
      I downloaded your free report today Roger, I'm looking forward to reading and learning about what it is that you do, I've read several of your posts and find them pretty interesting. I really like the idea of working with CPL offers instead of promoting affiliate products, can't wait to learn more.
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  • Profile picture of the author smithgt
    Hi,

    I'm looking for some advice regarding the use of MailChimp.

    My car club has around 7,000 members throughout the UK. We're looking at MailChimp to communicate with our membership.

    However, club is split into around thirty-five "Areas" and each of these areas has an "Area Coordinator". Ideally, I'd like each of these 35 coordinators, to be able to access their own segment of the master audience list and communicate local news to their local area members.

    Is it possible to do this with MailChip with an Essentail or Standard account as I only have one Audience, but would like these 35 people to be able to send emails?

    I can split the Audience into the thirty-five chunks fairly easily.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sherwoods Forests
      Should be able to do this. Create a tag for each area, and each contact gets a tag.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Ferg
    Hey there I have a great dislike of mailchimp - especially for affiliate marketing. It just doesn't accept it and I don't really like the interface anyway. I really like GetResponse and AWeber, I find them more functional and user friendly and also accepting of affiliate marketing. For a startup firm, affiliate marketing or not I think you can find better value elsewhere.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    What alternatives you consider depends on what your priorities are.

    I recently read about the owner of a big list (100k+) who saved a lot of money and got better tools for his needs by changing to a different mailing-list management system.

    MailChimp is great if you only have a small list, want basic functionality and understand what you are doing. If you are inexperienced, it can be a disaster, because their free account won't give you any details if you make a mistake (such as doing what so many cheap courses tell you to do, and just copying and pasting email swipes from an affiliate product), they just close your account and give you zero clue why.

    I's also consider BuilderAll . . . some of the plans offer UNLIMITED email management, their visual workflow is a good idea I think, and they give a lot of other tools all in the same relatively low monthly price, including web hosting, and lots more.

    Hope that helps !

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    • Profile picture of the author Sherwoods Forests
      Mailchimp has a bunch of other flaws: The list management is already clunky at 1800 contacts. It's hard to filter, hard to move around, hard to check.

      I've also had problems with responses to emails being agglomerated into a single thread. MC has 'conversations' but you have to deal with those on MC's web site. I think I need distinct "Reply-To:" fields for each contact.
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  • Profile picture of the author romysingh
    I'd suggest try Aweber, Mailerlite, Sendinblue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ameya S
    List of alternatives for MailChimp
    MailGenius
    Litmus
    Reach Mail
    Target Hero
    Drip
    Mad Mimi
    Mailjet
    Infusionsoft
    Campaigner
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    Originally Posted by WF- Enzo View Post

    It's 2019, and there are sorts of email marketing tools available. And MailChimp is still top of mind when we all look for an email marketing tool. On the other side of the coin, MailChimp is very ubiquitous and some might not find it effective at all. If I was to run a startup firm and I'll send an email blast to my prospective customers, what alternatives to MailChimp would you suggest?
    I've been using Mailingboss with Builderall, and it works great! It's very easy to use and the delivery rate is high.
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  • Profile picture of the author osake
    I've always found MailerLite a great alternative (and cheaper than MailChimp).
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  • Profile picture of the author godfather25
    Self-hosted on Mailwizz. By far my favorite alternative.

    Favorite autoresponder though is Get Response. Features, interface, and deliverability makes it hard to beat.

    I enjoy using both though. Always smart to have at least two autoresponders, if you're serious about your email marketing business.
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    • Originally Posted by godfather25 View Post

      Self-hosted on Mailwizz. By far my favorite alternative.

      Favorite autoresponder though is Get Response. Features, interface, and deliverability makes it hard to beat.

      I enjoy using both though. Always smart to have at least two autoresponders, if you're serious about your email marketing business.
      Hi. Would like to hear your opinion for MailWizz on the drip email marketing thread
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  • Profile picture of the author FatimaK
    Has anyone tried Zoho Campaigns? It is similar to Mailchimp.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Has anyone tried Zoho Campaigns?

    Yes, and forum search will show the threads where it is recommended, such as


    https://www.warriorforum.com/email-m...our-email.html
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  • Profile picture of the author jpetitho
    aweber, sendinblue are good options!
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisstoltzfus
    Active Campaign and SharpSpring are what I'm familiar with and really like.
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    There is Elastic mail and
    Pepipost.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gachema179
    Sendgrid another opportunity. This can be use also for beginner
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    I would recommend having a look at Sendshark
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  • Profile picture of the author smedia11
    I second Mailerlite.

    The only issue is it does not have the integrations that Mailchimp has, but I suspect that will be the case for most of the alternatives mentioned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Scott Jr
    I use Aweber because I have experienced great deliverability with them, user friendly, and they integrate with everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Remy Tennant
    Hey folks!

    I am thinking about bringing affiliate offers into my email marketing.

    All of my list is opt-ins but it is in the dating niche, so there are some affiliate offers that could easily be (mis)judged by ESPs as spam.

    I've read plenty of horror stories about the consequences of doing this, especially on mailchimp, which I am currently using.

    Is anyone doing this successfully in 2020? What's the best strategy? Does link cloaking work, or are ESP's able to pick up the final destination of the URL?

    If you are doing it successfully, what ESP are you using? What link cloaking tool?

    Thanks,

    Remy

    PS I tried to make this a new topic, because I think it deserves visibility, but as a newbie it would not allow me to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Naveen Shukla
    Sendgrid ConvertKit.
    AWeber.
    Drip.
    GetResponse.
    MailerLite.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackanderson96
    They may not be quite as big but there is plenty of alternatives including :

    Constant Contract
    Mailer Lite
    Moosend
    AWeber
    Sendingblue
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  • Profile picture of the author e-mail2u
    If you can self host PhPlist is a good free option and no limitations. Tracking from links clicked to how long it took them to open the email from time sent. Out of the box it does not have an autoresponder feature but if you go to the plugins you can add one there in seconds.
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