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Hy all i need help
I start a new method and the beauty part its that i can use only my phone to get traffic so i dont need to work at pc
The way i do it its that i drive traffic throught forums ,quora ,fb profile ,pinterest only using phone by answering questions ,helping people in make money online niche
The building list its going well as i can aquire 10 or 20 leads daily
When people sign up they are redirected to an aff page
Then on my autoresponder i send daily emails with clickbank offers etc
And the conversion rate it almost 0 and i dont know why and i dont understand whats the problem
Please give me some sugestions on what can be wrong ?
Maybe mmo niche its way to saturated ?
Or traffic from social media its not good for conversion
Or wbat do you think i am doing wrong ?
Thanks in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

    When people sign up they are redirected to an aff page
    Unless you're saying to your prospects "sign up here to be sold stuff", that's probably an instant turn-off for most, if not all your leads.

    What about building some trust and authority with your subscribers before shunting them off to an affiliate offer?

    Even then, without some kind of differentiation or unusual angle, your chances of getting any kind of traction in the MMO market are slim to none. Added to that, the sort of people who'd go to Quora, FB or Pinterest with MMO queries aren't likely to be serious buyers.

    I'd consider a different niche/market if I were you.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      Unless you're saying to your prospects "sign up here to be sold stuff", that's probably an instant turn-off for most, if not all your leads.

      What about building some trust and authority with your subscribers before shunting them off to an affiliate offer?

      Even then, without some kind of differentiation or unusual angle, your chances of getting any kind of traction in the MMO market are slim to none. Added to that, the sort of people who'd go to Quora, FB or Pinterest with MMO queries aren't likely to be serious buyers.

      I'd consider a different niche/market if I were you.
      Im all in with this until the try a different niche.... The NICHE itself doesnt matter... having signups and then sending them offer after offer regardless of the niche is going to produce the exact same result.

      You need to pick ONE product...I suggest BUY the product, and USE the product..you can then share your journey of the products use and what you have learned in your e-mail campaign.

      Here is why I bought this.. here is how I am using it, and here are my results... if interested click the link below - < Hate saying this > If I can can do it, so can you.

      Converting traffic to an e-mail list is hard on a good day. You are ahead of the game... converting from the email list to actually buying - Im not about to say its any easier... but you have drawn people in that are "Interrested" in what you have to offer.

      There are 3 basic steps in a funnel. The AD, the Sign Up ( Lander ), and the Pitch ( sales page ). I am sure you have figured this out... how you get them from the ad to the lander is there has to be an amount of like context between the 2. An ad about Red cars, and a lander about blue vans will not produce the email list conversion. So ad to Lander has to match ( red cars ) Your email sequence then becomes the sales page right?

      So what exactly got them to click on your link to get to your lander, and then once on the lander to cough up the email? Think red car, red car, red car - this is the process that creates conversions ( $$$ )

      The minute you are throwing offer after offer after offer to see what sticks is red car, red car, Yellow bus, Blue Van, Green truck.

      Stay consistent in context through the entire process and see where that gets you.

      Hope that Helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy Arrandale
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      Unless you're saying to your prospects "sign up here to be sold stuff", that's probably an instant turn-off for most, if not all your leads.
      i agree (i did that a couple of times and thank god i stopped quickly. then i found out that's not a good thing to do, i was relieved i had stopped. )

      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      Im all in with this until the try a different niche.... The NICHE itself doesnt matter... having signups and then sending them offer after offer regardless of the niche is going to produce the exact same result.

      You need to pick ONE product...I suggest BUY the product, and USE the product..you can then share your journey of the products use and what you have learned in your e-mail campaign.
      I did that in the beginning 3 years ago. I believe in doing that. But rather than pick products to use with small commissions i should've picked ones with bigger commissions. Research and find products with higher commissions.

      Yes that would be a bit of money investment on my part. And I'm doing that this year now, accidentally having bought unique MMO products that I began to implement but that weren't a good fit for me and my work style. They might be a good fit for some of my people on my list, though, so I'm promoting those same products (had to sign up as an affiliate for them obviously) with 60 to 365-day followup email sequences.

      But buying and actually using products first is more time consuming than just researching reviews of good products , if that matters to the OP.


      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      Your email sequence then becomes the sales page right?
      Yes!! Great way to think of this! And the longer the sequence the better, according to my coach. He says research shows that People start to buy around the 60 day mark of getting your email about such and such a product.

      Of course, having informative, entertaining emails in the sequence is important too.



      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      The minute you are throwing offer after offer after offer to see what sticks is red car, red car, Yellow bus, Blue Van, Green truck.
      This is a cool way to understand it.

      I have currently got three emails a day, each one with a different MMO offer I believe in, in long daily automatic sequences, going to my list, one in the AM one in the PM and one in early evening.

      The first one is the red car. The second is the second red car, very similar to the first product and by the same brand. The third is the yellow bus (a different MMO product I believe in by a different brand. )


      My coach says three maximum a day. I have other products with their email sequences waiting in the wings when those are done.

      Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post


      Lastly also what , which product. Some products are suck.

      Yes. For the Original Poster, which products? Id like to know too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Arrandale
    Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

    H all i need help
    ....
    The way i do it its that i drive traffic throught forums ,quora ,fb profile ,pinterest only using phone by answering questions ,helping people in make money online niche
    ....
    And the conversion rate it almost 0 and i dont know why and i dont understand whats the problem
    Please give me some sugestions on what can be wrong ?
    Maybe mmo niche its way to saturated ?
    Or traffic from social media its not good for conversion
    ....
    I've learned from my mentor and coach that research stats report that the mindset of the people on the social media places like FB isn't a buyer mindset. It's like an escape mindset. they go there to hang out. So that could be the problem, even if they do give you their email address.

    ((i don't know about forums and Quora. i just know that when i use Quora i'm not in the mood to buy, i'm going there to do other things, like in my case I go there to do types of research like historical research for my historical novels i write. Maybe others go there to spend time/relax/escape or get answers to their life or research questions also?)

    my mentor also taught me the stats show that MMO niche isn't too saturated.
    Good luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
    how many leads you currently have? I know usually out of 10k leads JUST like 1 percent will buy.
    So summary the more leads you got the better results obviously.

    Lastly also what , which product. Some products are suck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    got three emails a day

    You send three emails per day to your list? What is the churn rate or open rate on your list? How large is the list?


    spartan14 - you are saying 'I found an easy way to do this' - but the 'easy way' is not producing sales. Social media traffic is hit or miss and mostly miss if you are just trying to 'sell them something'.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    You might want to tweak your email sequence because everything else seems to be going well .

    Instead of sending them offers every day switch it up. Send them an email with a link to blog or somethings else of value .
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  • Profile picture of the author Samfakroon
    Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

    Hy all i need help
    I start a new method and the beauty part its that i can use only my phone to get traffic so i dont need to work at pc
    The way i do it its that i drive traffic throught forums ,quora ,fb profile ,pinterest only using phone by answering questions ,helping people in make money online niche
    The building list its going well as i can aquire 10 or 20 leads daily
    When people sign up they are redirected to an aff page
    Then on my autoresponder i send daily emails with clickbank offers etc
    And the conversion rate it almost 0 and i dont know why and i dont understand whats the problem
    Please give me some sugestions on what can be wrong ?
    Maybe mmo niche its way to saturated ?
    Or traffic from social media its not good for conversion
    Or wbat do you think i am doing wrong ?
    Thanks in advance
    Well this method will take long to make money.

    In todays world people are into transformation than being sold information.

    The effort it takes to sell a $100 product is same as it is to sell $5,000 product.

    You just have to understand the Anatomy of high Ticket selling and you will be good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy Arrandale
      Originally Posted by Samfakroon View Post

      Well this method will take long to make money.

      In todays world people are into transformation than being sold information.

      The effort it takes to sell a $100 product is same as it is to sell $5,000 product.

      You just have to understand the Anatomy of high Ticket selling and you will be good.

      I also had to learn that I wasn't willing to put in the effort, building a website and blogging on it, etc. just to promote low-ticket items from Amazon. (Altho there is a great program out there for that, it just didn't 'fit' me)

      However, when I began to discover high-ticket items that made all the difference.

      Then I had to learn about the quality of the email list I was building. It has to show proven buyer or interest status. I got these through solo ads to help build my first list.

      THEN i had to realize that not just a one or two day followup email sequence would do the job. I needed 60, 90, 120 or even 365-day sequences for the product!

      So you've got a lot of work ahead of you too, OP, it seems like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    I dont understand
    I don't understand why someone would start a thread looking for advice and not return to it after a month.
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