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Grrrr I don't like double opt in...

by CAmarketing
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Does anyone know if there is a way to change my Aweber list to single opt in?

Or does get response allow single opt in?
#double #grrrr #opt
  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

    Does anyone know if there is a way to change my Aweber list to single opt in?

    Or does get response allow single opt in?
    They both allow single optin.

    In GetResponse click on the wheel logo...

    Then Permission...

    Then uncheck Enable confirmed opt-in:
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  • Profile picture of the author jfalxr
    James is right..

    I don't know with Aweber, but GetResponse have a double-optin as their default settings..
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    In Aweber you can also set it to single opt in.

    Just edit it in your list settings, check here for detailed info: https://help.aweber.com/entries/2166...firmed-Opt-In-
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Double opt-in is way better at least you get people on your list who actually confirm that they want your information.

    Not too mention it eliminates the fake junk emails people will give just to get your freebies....

    Double opt-in is the way to go but to each their own i guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShutupAndEarn
    Why in the world would you hate double opt-in??
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  • Profile picture of the author CAmarketing
    Because my "response required" automatic message is getting send to their spam! So like half the people that subscribed to my list yesterday, STILL haven't opted in. So I figure single opt-in is the way to go, that way they can receive my updates and emails regardless if they got my "response required" email which I don't think they are getting.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichardF
      Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

      Because my "response required" automatic message is getting send to their spam! So like half the people that subscribed to my list yesterday, STILL haven't opted in. So I figure single opt-in is the way to go, that way they can receive my updates and emails regardless if they got my "response required" email which I don't think they are getting.
      I've been noticing this as well. I don't use Aweber personally (I'm happy with GetResponse) but a few times in the last month or so when I've signed up for lists, the confirmation messages from Aweber have ended up in my Gmail spam folder. This is NOT good and they need to do something about this ASAP.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
      Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

      Because my "response required" automatic message is getting send to their spam! So like half the people that subscribed to my list yesterday, STILL haven't opted in. So I figure single opt-in is the way to go, that way they can receive my updates and emails regardless if they got my "response required" email which I don't think they are getting.
      Some may be going to spam but the majority are not confirming because it's not important enough to them.

      Aweber suggests you do not use a free email for your "return" address. Use something like help@mydomain.com.

      They are down for system maintenance so I can't link to the specific article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Writes
      Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

      Because my "response required" automatic message is getting send to their spam! So like half the people that subscribed to my list yesterday, STILL haven't opted in. So I figure single opt-in is the way to go, that way they can receive my updates and emails regardless if they got my "response required" email which I don't think they are getting.
      If you have a Thank You page, just inform (or remind) your users to check the Spam folder in the event they don't get an email. I personally find this old, simple tactic effective. Hell, put it in Heading 1 or Heading 2 if you have to.
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    PS: I figured out how to do it with Aweber, thanks guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    1. Double optin is simply not needed anymore. Most autoresponders such as Aweber will still make people confirm if the email address is likely to be a spam one.

    2. You can select single optin in Aweber but only on a new list. You cannot change a list that has already had your first subscriber back to single optin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay View Post

      Double opt-in is way better at least you get people on your list who actually confirm that they want your information.
      You get all those people if you use single opt-in, too.

      Together with some others.

      Not using email address confirmation doesn't lose you one single person, and it doesn't make any "good, serious, well-motivated potential customers" any less good, less serious or less well-motivated, either.

      This thread has helped many people here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8554418

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  • Profile picture of the author aspic791
    However, from what I have heard and read, apparently double opt-in lists are of higher quality. Don't know how true this is (maybe you can comment on this ) as I haven't actually tested on this subject
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by aspic791 View Post

      apparently double opt-in lists are of higher quality.
      The key word there is "apparently".

      Originally Posted by aspic791 View Post

      maybe you can comment on this
      This thread will help you: among other things, it explains some of the fallacies and mistaken reasoning that underlie many of the widely-held but inaccurate beliefs about the apparent superiority of lists built with email address confirmation: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8554418

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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by aspic791 View Post

      However, from what I have heard and read, apparently double opt-in lists are of higher quality. Don't know how true this is (maybe you can comment on this ) as I haven't actually tested on this subject
      Think about it. The person opting in has no idea whether your list is single optin or double optin. So you will still be getting all of those people who would join your double optin list. The only difference is you are also getting a load of extra people who for whatever reason would not have confirmed their email address.

      So it only make sense to use single optin.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    You can change it in Aweber, I don't use double opt-in and it builds a list faster... I haven't had any spam complaints to date.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheChamp25
    I was stuck on this matter for so long as most would say double opt-in is the way to go because of the "quality subscribers" you would get. On the other hand its more time consuming for the visitor on your page. On average you have maybe 30-40 seconds to keep the visitors interest.

    I now see that the double opt-in will cut into that time frame. Maybe there is a way to force people to put in their real email instead of a fake one, before they can land on your sales page, video page or what have you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by TheChamp25 View Post

      On average you have maybe 30-40 seconds to keep the visitors interest.
      Oh, how I wish that were true!

      Originally Posted by TheChamp25 View Post

      I now see that the double opt-in will cut into that time frame.
      Not at all. The email address confirmation process isn't done "on your site". It's done by email.

      There are many disadvantages (along with one or two advantages, too) to using opt-in confirmation, but that isn't actually one of them.

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      • Profile picture of the author TheChamp25
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Oh, how I wish that were true!



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        Maybe 3-4 seconds??
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
    The one time that I can see double opt in being useful is when you are offering some type of free product. It takes a little more work to double opt in and only a really motivated person who is interested in that freebie you are offering will even take the time. On the other hand, it might also annoy them annoy to just forget about it and move on. If that's the situation, then it's just as well as they probably wouldn't have been interested in your follow up emails anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Originally Posted by CAmarketing View Post

    Does anyone know if there is a way to change my Aweber list to single opt in?

    Or does get response allow single opt in?



    Try the "Customer Support" feature.

    I know G.R. has one but not too sure about Aweber.

    They will be more than happy to help if they have one there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Double optin can be considered a filtering process and in list
    building you either filter early or filter late. With double optin
    you'll (theoretically*) get less tire-kickers than with single optin.

    Most marketers will have to filter their list later on anyway, so
    you have to decide WHEN you want to do this.

    -Ray Edwards

    *In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
    -Yogi Berra
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