Can anybody recommend a good company to help us automate our emails?

10 years ago

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Aweber is still very good. GetResponse is also very good. Those two are the widely acclaimed "market leaders" for a reason.

Mailchimp is one to stay well away from. These threads explain why ...
Mailchimp not to be used for internet marketing?
Mailchimp warnings.
Free autoresponders

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garysvpa

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Aweber is still very good. GetResponse is also very good. Those two are the widely acclaimed "market leaders" for a reason.

Mailchimp is one to stay well away from. These threads explain why ...
Mailchimp not to be used for internet marketing?
Mailchimp warnings.
Free autoresponders

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Thank you very much for your assistance!

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No BS

10 years ago

the mailchimp anti internet marketeer hype is over-rated. Personally I chose Awebers $1 trial for the first month. but am also leaning towards giving mailchimp a try since I will not be promoting any make money online products and because I've read allot of misinformation, or what seems to be the sudden rush of getresponse promotions since they've integrated with warrior payments.

But I prefer to do some research of my own and this is what I've came up with

they're not against all IMers, just the ones who spam or use blacklisted domains in their referrals.

from: About Affiliate Links in MailChimp | MailChimp.com

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Good affiliate link

Let's say you're a mom blogger. You send emails where you, as a mother, recommend certain products to your readers (like baby food, kids' clothing, etc). For some of the products that you link to, you use affiliate links. Why not? We all have to make a living. That's perfectly fine to send in MailChimp.
Prohibited content

Let's take that mom blogger from above, but instead of sending emails about mom-related products, she sends emails about how mothers can get rich while working from home. That's prohibited content, as defined in our acceptable use policy. Remember, we're not judging. But that content will inevitably generate spam complaints or delivery problems. When that happens, our compliance team will most likely suspend the account.
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So what’s the problem with career affiliate marketers?

Affiliate Market-ing vs. Affiliate Market-ers

So we've hopefully established that affiliate links are not the problem, and that MailChimp has no philosophical issues with affiliate links. In a lot of cases, they're very helpful to authors who provide useful content to people who opted-in for that useful content. Now let's talk about when things "cross the line" over to a violation of our TOS (specifically, the “Affiliate Marketer” reference).

Do you find telephones useful? Even helpful sometimes? If you're a business owner, and a customer calls you, do you use the phone to establish a relationship with the customer and perhaps even say nice things about your company? I think we can all say "yes" to that. That’s marketing. And it happened on the phone. And if you occasionally pick up the phone to call on a customer and provide some useful information or help them, we'd all agree that's a good thing. Again, you're doing marketing. On the telephone. You might even call that “tele-marketing.” Heh, nothing wrong with that so far. But now if you install a robo-dialer that systematically dials every number in the phone book at dinner time, and then link that to a giant room full of workers with headsets that try to sell stuff to people (usually at dinner time), you've become a telemarketer. And that's annoying as hell to people.

Are telemarketers bad? No. Do we, at MailChimp, judge telemarketers? No. They have to put food on the table too. But we can all agree that telemarketers annoy us.
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Here How Blacklists Work | MailChimp.com they also reference this domain to check if your affiliate site is blacklisted MultiRBL.valli.org - Blacklist, Whitelist and FCrDNS check tool

So, I checked probably one of the most popular affiliate marketing sites mentioned and used by people here, clickbank, and it had ZERO blacklists. SO if you're not spamming, most likely you will be safe using MailChimp here are the results to see for yourself MultiRBL.valli.org - Results of the query hop.clickbank.com

also, here is their acceptable use policy:
Acceptable Use Policy | MailChimp

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by No BS

the mailchimp anti internet marketeer hype is over-rated. Personally I chose Awebers $1 trial for the first month. but am also leaning towards giving mailchimp a try since I will not be promoting any make money online products and because I've read allot of misinformation, or what seems to be the sudden rush of getresponse promotions since they've integrated with warrior payments.

But I prefer to do some research of my own and this is what I've came up with

I'm very sorry to see it here, just in case anyone decides to take notice of it.

All that stuff is the cause of many people's problems with Mailchimp, not the answer to it or the explanation for it.

The difficulty that hundreds of Warriors have had with them is that the information they give on their site (about such matters as whether they tolerate affiliate marketing) and what they actually do, in reality, are two totally different things.

That's why forums like this are full of posts and threads like this one: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3762385

So please don't start advising Warriors that "it's ok to use Mailchimp for affiliate marketing" because of the "information" you've found about it on Mailchimp's own site! That helps nobody - it just perpetuates the misunderstandings.

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No BS

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

So please don't start advising Warriors that "it's ok to use Mailchimp for affiliate marketing" because of the "information" you've found about it on Mailchimp's own site! That helps nobody - it just perpetuates the misunderstandings.

So you're suggesting we all take the words of an internet marketer over their company policy...

The first link you shared was started by someone with this link in their signature:
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the second thread you link was created by someone with this in their signature:
[WSO] Learn The Secret Funnel Strategy I Discovered In The Mountains Of Japan....
[AFFILIATES] Earn $$$ - Join my Affiliate programs

the third link you posted is to a closed thread

the fourth link you posted had someone basically telling their disallowed promotions and you posting a link to another warrior forum thread bashing mailchimp like you're doing here

the fifth link you posted os to someone who had their account suspended but gave no link to the stuff being promoted. similar to how everyone in prison is innocent of the crime they committed if you ask them why they are there. and also had another post by you posting links to other mailchimp bashing threads.

the sixth post is another of your cross promotion links bashing mailchimp and someone who supported your claim.

If you're gonna spam your list with make money online offers like you see in most all links promoted here on this forum, then you probably do not want to use mailchimp.

If you're not selling information schams to the make money online crowd, or other disallowed sleazy type promotions you should be safe.

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Alexa Smith Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by No BS

So you're suggesting we all take the words of an internet marketer over their company policy...

No.

I'm not suggesting that at all.

I'm suggesting we take the collective words of hundreds of Warriors who have run into problems there, many of them losing their accounts and some of them losing their lists, and who have collectively taken the time and trouble here (and in many other forums) - in large numbers! - to post warnings about the fact that the information on Mailchimp's site is false and deceptive.

Hope that's ok with you.

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garysvpa

10 years ago

Originally Posted by No BS

the mailchimp anti internet marketeer hype is over-rated. Personally I chose Awebers $1 trial for the first month. but am also leaning towards giving mailchimp a try since I will not be promoting any make money online products and because I've read allot of misinformation, or what seems to be the sudden rush of getresponse promotions since they've integrated with warrior payments.

But I prefer to do some research of my own and this is what I've came up with

they're not against all IMers, just the ones who spam or use blacklisted domains in their referrals.

from: About Affiliate Links in MailChimp | MailChimp.com

Here How Blacklists Work | MailChimp.com they also reference this domain to check if your affiliate site is blacklisted MultiRBL.valli.org - Blacklist, Whitelist and FCrDNS check tool

So, I checked probably one of the most popular affiliate marketing sites mentioned and used by people here, clickbank, and it had ZERO blacklists. SO if you're not spamming, most likely you will be safe using MailChimp here are the results to see for yourself MultiRBL.valli.org - Results of the query hop.clickbank.com

also, here is their acceptable use policy:
Acceptable Use Policy | MailChimp

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me. I really appreciate it and I will definitely look into the sites that you recommended.

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James1212

10 years ago

I would stay with Aweber or Get Response, I looked into mail chimp and it was okay but did not have the easy use factor for me.
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AmericanMuscleTA 10 years ago

Originally Posted by James1212

I would stay with Aweber or Get Response, I looked into mail chimp and it was okay but did not have the easy use factor for me.
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Agreed! I tried the free version of MailChimp and it's not user friendly (or maybe I'm just stupid).

Anywho, AWeber has been great for me!
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garysvpa 10 years ago

Originally Posted by James1212

I would stay with Aweber or Get Response, I looked into mail chimp and it was okay but did not have the easy use factor for me.
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InfoBuzz13

10 years ago

Hi, I think the best one is Aweber is the best one, have not heard about mailchimp.

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garysvpa 10 years ago

Originally Posted by InfoBuzz13

Hi, I think the best one is Aweber is the best one, have not heard about mailchimp.

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David Neale

10 years ago

For your needs I would definitely suggest Mailchimp. Doesn't sound like you;ll be pushing ClickBank offers anytime soon.

Originally Posted by garysvpa

We are a start up company looking for a low cost solution to help automate our emails.

In 2002 & 2003 I used Aweber which was good at the time. I have recently learned about mailchimp which seems to be free for the 1st 2,000 email addresses. And there seems to be a few positive reviews online regarding get response.

Just looking to see what other start up companies would recommend?

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tel4rent

10 years ago

Hello,
I am also looking to automate my clients emails but for their ecommerce business. I was told that Aweber is the best. I came across SENDINBLUE email marketing....

Anyone here have tried it? Any recommendation?