Sending emails to 100,000+- cheapest provider? Please help.

by dwall
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I am currently using mail chimp. I noticed that the price are very expensive once you say pass 10,000 email subscribers. I was wondering if anyone knew of a cheap newsletter sender who is cheaper then mail chimp, a weber, and mad mini?

For example for a person with 200,000 email subscribers mail chimp would cost $875.00 a month. Does anyone know a service that would allow you to send to 200,000 people that's not as expensive?
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  • Profile picture of the author robhuw
    Thanks for your post.
    I use mailer light. The charge $495 per year for a contact list of up to 50,000 with an unlimited sending limit. I doubt it would be that much more for 100,000.
    Hope this helps a little.
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    • Profile picture of the author dwall
      Originally Posted by robhuw View Post

      Thanks for your post.
      I use mailer light. The charge $495 per year for a contact list of up to 50,000 with an unlimited sending limit. I doubt it would be that much more for 100,000.
      Hope this helps a little.
      I need sometime that can eventually support an email list of a 1,000,000 or so.... The list in growing alot everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author depotgang
      What there deliverability like
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  • Profile picture of the author AKhann
    Wouldn't you be making a lot of money with 1 million+ subs any way? Surely, the AR fees would be a drop in the ocean compared to your earnings from the list?

    To email mass amounts of people, you'd be better off with setting up a SMTP. They're kinda complicated IMO, but there's lots of information out there on how to setup, how to use etc
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    • Profile picture of the author bostjan33
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      Originally Posted by AKhann View Post

      Wouldn't you be making a lot of money with 1 million+ subs any way? Surely, the AR fees would be a drop in the ocean compared to your earnings from the list?

      To email mass amounts of people, you'd be better off with setting up a SMTP. They're kinda complicated IMO, but there's lots of information out there on how to setup, how to use etc
      I think he's got a bought list and he wants to spam it as cheap as possible
      I could be mistaken, of course...

      But there are many cheap bulk email services out there that charge a couple of bucks for thousands of emails sent.
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  • Profile picture of the author robhuw
    They would be able to, you just need to contact them
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    If you can manage the list yourself, you can use Mandrill, which is the delivery platform behind MailChimp. It would cost $20 to send 100,000 e-mails. Pricing is similar at other SMTP-as-a-service platforms like SendGrid, Mailgun and Postmark.

    Transactional Email from MailChimp - Mandrill

    Of course, if you're not on the up-and-up regarding SPAM laws and such, you won't be on any of those platforms very long. They track spam reports in real-time and will boot you right off. Be sure to read their terms of service to ensure your intended use is not prohibited; not every company allows affiliate marketing mails due to the high risk of spam complaints.
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    • Profile picture of the author dwall
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      If you can manage the list yourself, you can use Mandrill, which is the delivery platform behind MailChimp. It would cost $20 to send 100,000 e-mails. Pricing is similar at other SMTP-as-a-service platforms like SendGrid, Mailgun and Postmark.

      Transactional Email from MailChimp - Mandrill

      Of course, if you're not on the up-and-up regarding SPAM laws and such, you won't be on any of those platforms very long. They track spam reports in real-time and will boot you right off. Be sure to read their terms of service to ensure your intended use is not prohibited; not every company allows affiliate marketing mails due to the high risk of spam complaints.
      Can you send one mass email to 100,000+ with Mandrill?

      Like a monthly newsletter with Mandrill? Whats difference between using Mailchimp?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    You would send 100,000 mails. One to each person. From a newsletter management program, or code that you've written. It's an e-mail delivery platform, where MailChimp is a list and campaign management platform. Big difference. One sits on top of the other.
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    • Profile picture of the author Erquilon
      You could also consider using Sendy in combination with Amazon SES. Sendy is a piece of software you can install on your own server. It manages the lists, autoresponder and everything for you. It's the user interface you use to do anything. In other words, you host your own e-mail platform.

      The sending of the emails will be done through Amazon SES, which is a service of Amazon. Amazon SES charges you $1 per 10.000 emails send. So for a list of 100.000 this would be $10. And it has good deliverability rates.

      Sendy costs a one time 59 dollars. I'm now using it for all my e-mailmarketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author dwall
        Originally Posted by Erquilon View Post

        You could also consider using Sendy in combination with Amazon SES. Sendy is a piece of software you can install on your own server. It manages the lists, autoresponder and everything for you. It's the user interface you use to do anything. In other words, you host your own e-mail platform.

        The sending of the emails will be done through Amazon SES, which is a service of Amazon. Amazon SES charges you $1 per 10.000 emails send. So for a list of 100.000 this would be $10. And it has good deliverability rates.

        Sendy costs a one time 59 dollars. I'm now using it for all my e-mailmarketing.
        So I'm a bit confused. Lets say I buy Sendy. How easy is it to then send a mass newsletter? Do I have to code the template and do stuff like that? Does Sendy track opens/clicks ETC?
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        • Profile picture of the author stackz9front
          Im currently using Get Response. It's only about 15 bucks a month and it has many amazing features. You should definitely look into it before you purchase any other products. This service makes me LOTS of money. Plus its easy to use :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author dwall
            Originally Posted by stackz9front View Post

            Im currently using Get Response. It's only about 15 bucks a month and it has many amazing features. You should definitely look into it before you purchase any other products. This service makes me LOTS of money. Plus its easy to use :-)
            That service is way to much for people with lists over 100K

            Bumb. Still looking for more information on Sendy.
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            • Profile picture of the author Ben Holmes
              Originally Posted by dwall View Post

              That service is way to much for people with lists over 100K

              Bumb. Still looking for more information on Sendy.
              I recall listening to an interview with an online marketer... he only had 350,000 people on his list.

              He was really bummed out when he cleared under $1,000 a day... his average at the time was $1,300 a day.

              Do you suppose that in a month's time, he could afford the autoresponder fees?

              My thought: People who don't like the "high cost" of autoresponders don't know how to earn any money with their list.

              Just a thought...
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          • Profile picture of the author MWarnberg
            Originally Posted by stackz9front View Post

            Im currently using Get Response. It's only about 15 bucks a month and it has many amazing features. You should definitely look into it before you purchase any other products. This service makes me LOTS of money. Plus its easy to use :-)
            totally agree with you! Getresponse is really good!
            check it out, they offer 30 days free trial!
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      • Profile picture of the author teazers4
        Originally Posted by Erquilon View Post

        You could also consider using Sendy in combination with Amazon SES. Sendy is a piece of software you can install on your own server. It manages the lists, autoresponder and everything for you. It's the user interface you use to do anything. In other words, you host your own e-mail platform.

        The sending of the emails will be done through Amazon SES, which is a service of Amazon. Amazon SES charges you $1 per 10.000 emails send. So for a list of 100.000 this would be $10. And it has good deliverability rates.

        Sendy costs a one time 59 dollars. I'm now using it for all my e-mailmarketing.

        Would you be able to import large lists as well??
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  • Profile picture of the author Robinsh123
    All the email autoresponder service providers create custom plans and also gives huge discount for the big list owners so you should check by contacting them, I would recommend getresponse.
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  • Profile picture of the author hashimfarooqi
    please tell me more cheapest mail sending website.
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    • Profile picture of the author Erquilon
      Originally Posted by dwall View Post

      So I'm a bit confused. Lets say I buy Sendy. How easy is it to then send a mass newsletter? Do I have to code the template and do stuff like that? Does Sendy track opens/clicks ETC?
      You don't have to code anything or do something super technical to send emails. Sendy itself is a little bit more technical to set up then other email service providers though, but Sendy got a step by step getting started tutorial which explains everything, so you should be fine.

      Originally Posted by teazers4 View Post

      Would you be able to import large lists as well??
      Yes. You can import lists in CSV format in Sendy. You can also add e-mailaddresses manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author iwankurniawan
    do you ever tried SES from amazon service? here's their feature : " Email messages are charged at $0.10 per thousand. If you are an Amazon EC2 user, you can get started with Amazon SES for free. You can send 62,000 messages per month to any recipient when you call Amazon SES from an Amazon EC2 instance directly or through AWS Elastic Beanstalk. Many applications are able to operate entirely within this free tier limit, and it does not expire after a year. "
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  • Profile picture of the author joegaris
    Check out https://www.ininbox.com/pricing.html. They have very CHEAP prices and the option of going as high as you want with subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
      Originally Posted by joegaris View Post

      Check out https://www.ininbox.com/pricing.html. They have very CHEAP prices and the option of going as high as you want with subscribers.
      As expected of a company selling "unlimited mails to unlimited people" for a couple bucks, all four of their welcome/confirmation mails went straight to my spam folder. The reason you pay professional e-mail marketing companies isn't for the list management (you can get free software for that), it's for the reputation and relationships with all the major e-mail hosts around the world that gets their mails into inboxes instead of spam filters.

      If it seems too good to be true...
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  • Profile picture of the author fulfilledlife
    If you have big list you might want to start in hosting it on your own.

    The last thing you want is to give full access and full control over your successful business to somebody else. Because one day you might discover you whole life income evaporated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
      Originally Posted by fulfilledlife View Post

      If you have big list you might want to start in hosting it on your own.
      Delivering the mail on your own is simply not an option for a large list if you want the mail to end up in peoples' inboxes. No matter how clean your web host, big mail providers like Yahoo! will not accept more than a small number of sends per hour from an IP address they don't have a history with. If you try to send a mail to your list, most of the messages will be silently rejected or delivered to spam folders. "Warming up" IPs for use as reputable senders over the course of weeks is just one consideration of a great many that e-mail marketing companies handle for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author fulfilledlife
        This is simply not true.

        There are plenty of SMTP services that provide prime quality email delivery. And enough software to anyone who would like to self host their own email marketing software.

        Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

        Delivering the mail on your own is simply not an option for a large list if you want the mail to end up in peoples' inboxes. No matter how clean your web host, big mail providers like Yahoo! will not accept more than a small number of sends per hour from an IP address they don't have a history with. If you try to send a mail to your list, most of the messages will be silently rejected or delivered to spam folders. "Warming up" IPs for use as reputable senders over the course of weeks is just one consideration of a great many that e-mail marketing companies handle for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
          Originally Posted by fulfilledlife View Post

          This is simply not true.

          There are plenty of SMTP services that provide prime quality email delivery. And enough software to anyone who would like to self host their own email marketing software.
          Simply a misunderstanding, then. You agreed with me completely. I said "DELIVERING the mail is not an option", which would mean self-hosting the SMTP part as well. That's what I assumed you were suggesting by saying that in response to multiple posts about good options for SMTP-as-a-service (Mandrill, Amazon SES, Sendgrid, etc) to use alongside self-hosted list/campaign management software.

          Self-hosting the list management software and using an e-mail company for deliverability was my own suggestion, way up top over a week ago.

          Of course, if that's what you really meant, your prior post is puzzling. You warned against using a third party because they'd have access to your business. Any SMTP host you send your mail through necessarily has access to who you mail, what you mail and when you mail it. They know just as much as the software that sent the mails.
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          • Profile picture of the author fulfilledlife
            I guess it is misunderstanding and we both meant the same thing

            We can always change SMTP provider for our emails and be back in business, but if AW or GR blocks our account and removes list then we lost our entire business.

            I think those companies are good to start with and they provide good basic services, but later on when it grows up and starts bringing good money, it makes sense to protect the investment.


            Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

            Simply a misunderstanding, then. You agreed with me completely. I said "DELIVERING the mail is not an option", which would mean self-hosting the SMTP part as well. That's what I assumed you were suggesting by saying that in response to multiple posts about good options for SMTP-as-a-service (Mandrill, Amazon SES, Sendgrid, etc) to use alongside self-hosted list/campaign management software.

            Self-hosting the list management software and using an e-mail company for deliverability was my own suggestion, way up top over a week ago.

            Of course, if that's what you really meant, your prior post is puzzling. You warned against using a third party because they'd have access to your business. Any SMTP host you send your mail through necessarily has access to who you mail, what you mail and when you mail it. They know just as much as the software that sent the mails.
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            • Profile picture of the author 0001pp
              What we do in case our information is with SMTP service providers.
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  • Profile picture of the author depotgang
    Well if you want them to actually get in an inbox you could use Amazon SES.. BETTER and CHEAP... PIS to set up and they hate Biz Op, but wow best Ive used. I mail 1 mil a day with them
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  • Profile picture of the author flopitdown
    Nobody likes to hear this but I say it anyhow; with large email list there is a very high chance that spamming is involved, and spamming only hurts a business. I´d trhink twice before doing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author godsonechezona
    Try Sendlane or sendGrid, make sure your list are valid
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  • Profile picture of the author amysys
    With that much mail, you should do it yourself.

    Get a VPS server from ovh, vultr, digital ocean or a myraid of other providers:
    apx. $10 per month
    Buy a Email Marketing software: Mailwizz, acelle, interspire, etc
    Have someone configure your mail server
    and you can send as many mails as you'd like.

    Now, as long as you are not spamming, then you should be ok. Because then your ip address will get blacklisted and your host will have an issue with it.

    But, if you are spamming, any third party service will block you anyways.
    Even if you pay a system administrator to handle your server per month, it will still be a lot less than the cost of a third party server
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    • Profile picture of the author dafems
      Please send me the details of the person and yours too, I really need someone to help me configure this server. email me dayo at businessplusng.com
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  • Profile picture of the author jamie3000
    Amazon SES is seriously cheap. If you can code thing like mail gun are handy, really good api
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