Landing Page Monkey?

Banned 9 years ago

Hi Chris,

I purchased it but have not tried it yet. Here is what is stated on the sales page, and I was not offered a developer license in the funnel.

Share landing pages with your friends, your customers and your affiliates or add new templates to your dashboard from other users into your account in just a few clicks.

The OTOs:

inbox samurai gold - $17 (video series)
automated list profits - $97 (plr packages)

One thing I did notice the scarcity timer has been reset as I purchased with a few minutes to go last night and now it's rolling again at the same price.

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-don

Edited: Changed my text after seeing Nerubriv's post. We can share landing pages with our customers and affiliates but they are going to offer a develper's license later. Right.

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Nerubriv 9 years ago

Developer license is not included. In the members area it says: Need a Developer License? They are coming soon.............
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- ForumGuru Banned 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Nerubriv
  
  Developer license is not included. In the members area it says: Need a Developer License? They are coming soon.............
  
  Yeah, I see that now --> at the very bottom of the page under the bonuses in the member's area. That could be considered a bit shady since they used this verbiage on the sales page...
  
  Share landing pages with your friends, your customers and your affiliates
  
  ...and they make no mention of dev license, dev upgrade, and have nothing dev mentioned in the funnel. So I am supposed to "share" templates with my customers and affiliates that already have LPM? Give me a break...
  
  This better work well, because false scarcity and crafty sales page lingo (and lack of lingo) does not play well with me.
  
  I submitted a ticket to voice my displeasure...
  
  Cheers
  
  -don
  
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Mark Hess

9 years ago

I purchased this and also promoted it a little as an affiliate...

For me, it worked right out of the box. I was playing around, testing different things, and it's working great (I haven't tried EVERYTHING yet though). For newbies, if you're VERY new and haven't used a squeeze page, landing page, or sales page creator before, there may be a slight learning curve.

After promoting a ton of software/Wordpress stuff, there's things I feel Jeremy & Simon did a good job with in terms of making for a positive buying experience:

1) The training videos are short, clear, easy to follow, and to the point. No broken English, no rambling, no kids running around screaming in the background, he's not trying to eat crackers while recording the videos, the dog isn't barking or chasing the cat, he doesn't have 9 pet birds chirping into the microphone.

2) It's a really low pressure sales funnel. When I first looked at promoting this, I thought for sure they were going to put a "pro" version in the backend or hit you up with endless add-on's, backgrounds, etc. They don't. There's two OTO's, they pretty much have nothing to do with the frontend unless you're looking to create your own funnel and add those products in there.

3) No GetResponse API Integration. This is actually a pretty big deal. I use GetResponse. Their API is set to double optin by default (even if I set the campaign to single optin) that means anytime I want to use single optin at the API level for a campaign/list, I need to contact their compliance department and get permission. With LPM, I can just paste in my GetResponse form code instead of going through the hassle of API approval, which wastes time and holds things up.

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baza1955

9 years ago

Hey Mark,
Sounds like you were able to get your GetResponse Autoresponder hooked up to LPM without a hitch. I haven't been able to get it to work for me.....

I click on 'No' for the include name option, and the name form still appears on my landing page. The actual form doesn't forward to the thank you page for me either. Have you tried a form omitting the 'name' field? Could be a simple oversight on my end...

I played with it briefly last night. Also, Didn't seem to be any options to adjust font size.... (only bold or italics)....

Any ideas on getting the form to work with GR? Thanks

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Mark Hess

9 years ago

Originally Posted by baza1955

Hey Mark,
Sounds like you were able to get your GetResponse Autoresponder hooked up to LPM without a hitch. I haven't been able to get it to work for me.....

I click on 'No' for the include name option, and the name form still appears on my landing page. The actual form doesn't forward to the thank you page for me either. Have you tried a form omitting the 'name' field? Could be a simple oversight on my end...

I played with it briefly last night. Also, Didn't seem to be any options to adjust font size.... (only bold or italics)....

Any ideas on getting the form to work with GR? Thanks

I didn't use the actual "built in" GetResponse integration, I selected "custom" from the dropdown box under step 3 and just pasted in my form code.

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baza1955

9 years ago

I see Mark. Thanks.

Are you able to get a LPM form to display without a 'Name' field when using the 'Custom' code option with your GR form code?

Thanks,
Barry
p.s sent you a pm Mark

Originally Posted by Mark Hess

I didn't use the actual "built in" GetResponse integration, I selected "custom" from the dropdown box under step 3 and just pasted in my form code.

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Oziboomer

9 years ago

Just use the simple Get response opt-in form and deselect name from inside get response and I would expect you are good to go.

Haven't tested that with LPM but usually you can remove the name field in get response and you would expect if it was removed and you pasted the raw html without css that it wouldn't show.

Will check.

Originally Posted by baza1955

I see Mark. Thanks.

Are you able to get a LPM form to display without a 'Name' field when using the 'Custom' code option with your GR form code?

Thanks,
Barry
p.s sent you a pm Mark

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Doesn't look like this is for Wordpress more for html pages. Looks interesting but if you've got Profit Builder, I'd be hard pressed to buy this.

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Originally Posted by cypherslock

Doesn't look like this is for Wordpress more for html pages. Looks interesting but if you've got Profit Builder, I'd be hard pressed to buy this.

Yeah, I have PB too but purchased this at $27 bucks in-part because a reputable graphics guy promoting it is throwing in an additional 30 custom templates that he and his team are creating now --> I am banking on some of those being pretty good.

Have you built any full screen video background squeeze or sales pages with PB? If so, how long did it take to knock out a simple full screen video or video on on video page using videos from Vimeo, YT or self-hosted? Is it even possible to easily do in PB? I have not tried it, and I don't believe I have seen any full screen video PB template examples.

LPM does give you the "built-in" ability to track some basic stats...which may or may not be beneficial for some and they will host the pages for you if you want to trust LPM servers.

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Can be done in a couple of minutes. Sean covers it in the 2nd Q&A for PB.

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Banned 9 years ago

Thanks, I do see he shows a how to create a full full video background about an hour and a half in using a YT video. He does say you can't use Vimeo full screen. A couple of other tools that I have had for a while that do full screen video backgrounds are Mark D's Video Effects Press and Pavil's WP Tube Squeeze.

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-don

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ForumGuru

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Grable

Was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on Landing Page Monkey. How well does it work? Quality of product?

Well, I finally had a little time to check into this and a grand total of zero templates are included. No templates, no images, no videos, no drag and drop, just a bunch of text based input boxes like were shown in the demo video. All pages are created from scratch using input boxes and a preview function.

This is what a blank page looks like.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...12-05_2201.png

To be honest this system is quite simple and I am not sure it's worth keeping. I already have a half-dozen or more landing page tools, and several of those will do video landing pages.

I guess not having to use Wordpress can be advantage for some, along with the stats and the ability to have them host the page.

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-don

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Chris Grable

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

Well, I finally had a little time to check into this and a grand total of zero templates are included. No templates, no images, no videos, no drag and drop, just a bunch of text based input boxes like were shown in the demo video. All pages are created from scratch using input boxes and a preview function.

This is what a blank page looks like.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...12-05_2201.png

To be honest this system is quite simple and I am not sure it's worth keeping since I already have a half-dozen or more landing page tools, and several of those will do video landing pages.

I guess not having to use Wordpress can be advantage, along with the stats and they can host your page abilities.

Cheers

-don

Thanks Don. Between your thoughts and some of the other posts.... I think I am going to pass. I really appreciate the help!

chris

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samling

9 years ago

I heard many compliant that the Video Background is Not Working or playing on all tablets and mobile phones? How are you going to Fixed that problem?

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Originally Posted by samling

I heard many compliant that the Video Background is Not Working or playing on all tablets and mobile phones? How are you going to Fixed that problem?

Hello,

Video backgrounds usually won't work on mobile devices as most devices do not support autoplay. Videos are replaced with an image...

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-don
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samling

9 years ago

Would the opt in boxes disappear after they sign up or click submit? Is there a scarcity timer in built into the opt in boxes? and one more thing, could we add in pictures or images inside the opt in box.?

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Oziboomer

9 years ago

Always felt these guys stuff was hypey but gave it a look for 27 bucks and it worked well straight out of the box.

No developers license is not good.

Ideal for chucking up a hosted page when you don't want to bother with website yet. Pretty good for just testing something quickly and then taking it to the next level if you see results.

It changed my opinion of the sellers as it is simple, clean and does what it says.

Can easily create pages to test ppc and I like that you can download the html and install wherever or if you are just whacking up a quick review video or something else that needs a page fast then this is pretty cool.

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Gladiator

9 years ago

For 27 bucks - Not Bad.

*No developers license is not good Who knows how much they will ask for the developers license?
Ideal for chucking up a hosted page?, Yes but it will show the powered by -- Landing Page Monkey-not good.

With so many of these things popping up maybe we can review of them all here, so that I can stop buying these nickel and dime things.

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kbrady

9 years ago

Their demos look awesome but the fact that there are no templates really is a downer for me. I was going to give it a shot, but probably will pass now. I just got optin gate and it has templates built in, plus a WYSIWYG editor.

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Mark Hess 9 years ago

Originally Posted by kbrady

Their demos look awesome but the fact that there are no templates really is a downer for me.

That's because you don't need any templates, all of their demos were created just using the step1 and step2 editors: 2014-12-06_1421 - MarkHess's library

Very straightforward...

Someone else brought up Wordpress, I'm glad this isn't a plugin or theme, you don't have to worry about it breaking all your pages due to Wordpress updates.

This software is basically just a fancy WYSIWYG editor so it will always work...

(Yes, I'm drinking the LandingPage Monkey kool-aid, I'm really liking this)
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mikecowles 9 years ago

Just looked into Optin Gate and think it's a much better option. Will grab it and share results with my peeps once I try it out. Thanks for the tip!
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Banned 9 years ago

The cost of the developer license is $297. Now I see why it was not mentioned on the sales copy but "sharing" was mentioned. Considering the page design and most of the digital assets are mine ie: videos, images, text etc. I find that price a bit steep. FWIW they say the price rises to $497 in January. And yes, you do need to purchase the personal license and the developer license if you want the developer license.

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Banned 9 years ago

Not everyone wants to create landing pages from scratch, and not everyone is creative or techincal enough to knock out a whopper. Considering no digital assets are provided, templates can be even more valuable.

Originally Posted by Simon Phillips

The import/export feature is a great little add-on benefit, it enables you to backup pages, share them with other LandingPage Monkey including your JV partners & affiliates (you could page swap with your partners for some passive promotions) or add new templates to your dashboard developed by other users.

It takes a second to implement and enables us to provide both paid and bonus templates to users in the future - depending on demand we may even consider opening up a template marketplace for members in the future.

Notice Simon will be SELLING templates in the future and he even mentions BONUS templates and possibly setting up a template marketplace. So yes, having nice templates as a basis to work from is a big advantage for many as you don't have to design the entire layout...

But guess what? No templates of any kind are provided, not even a bonus template. As I mentioned earlier in the thread though, I am receiving 30 custom designed templates from the affiliate I purchased through.

So templates can be quite valuable if you want to knock out a great page very quickly, just change the text, AR code and links and possibly an element or two.

Let us not forget that it's not a desktop software either, it's SaaS, so if the servers go down or the company goes belly up then your page creating days are over.

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-don

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

Not everyone wants to create landing pages from scratch, and not everyone is creative or techincal enough to knock out a whopper. Considering no digital assets are provided, templates can be even more valuable.

Notice Simon will be SELLING templates in the future and he even mentions BONUS templates and possibly setting up a template marketplace. So yes, having nice templates as a basis to work from is a big advantage for many as you don't have to design the entire layout...

But guess what? No templates of any kind are provided, not even a bonus template. As I mentioned earlier in the thread though, I am receiving 30 custom designed templates from the affiliate I purchased through.

So templates can be quite valuable if you want to knock out a great page very quickly, just change the text, AR code and links and possibly an element or two.

Let us not forget that it's not a desktop software either, it's SaaS, so if the servers go down or the company goes belly up then your page creating days are over.

Cheers

-don

Another good reason to stick with Profitbuilder or any of the other WP page marketing generators. With VERY few exceptions (ScriptDoll being the only one really) I don't do monthly subs with software, especially something as important as squeeze/landing pages.

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GlenH

9 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

) I don't do monthly subs with software, especially something as important as squeeze/landing pages.

You are exactly right..

All the wiz-bang software tools that are being released these days all seem to be monthly subscriptions

That monthly subscription model is great for those marketers, but I'm not having the success of my business, and my livelihood, dependent on a platform run by some faceless third party who can just as easily disappear as quickly as they appeared.

These days I only buy software tools I can OWN.

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Oziboomer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by GlenH

You are exactly right..

All the wiz-bang software tools that are being released these days all seem to be monthly subscriptions

That monthly subscription model is great for those marketers, but I'm not having the success of my business, and my livelihood, dependent on a platform run by some faceless third party who can just as easily disappear as quickly as they appeared.

These days I only buy software tools I can OWN.

I beg to differ.

Maybe in the IM niche there are disappearing acts but if you look at most of the successful long-term software solutions for anything...accounting...surveys...banking....hosti ng etc.

The survivors offer either Upgrades at a cost, subscriptions or they charge you processing fees. - that or they are open source.

Development costs money.

Owning a piece of software is not really a sound idea as once it stops working your investment is worth ZERO.

I can agree that a one-time fee is appealing and many companies offer one-time fees to get a project off the ground but if your business depends on it you want to be sure the support is there for the long term so whatever model the company uses to maintain cash-flow I would suggest - urge you - that you consider supporting any good software product if it is going to continue to deliver you value.

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Jeff Gibson

9 years ago

I think GlenH's comment above was referring to products and services primarily in IM. Take for example "Landing Page Monkey" that this thread is about. I was seriously considering purchasing this WSO because I prefer using HTML for my websites over WordPress for the simple reason with WordPress you are dependent on the Theme and Plugin developers keeping their products updated every time WordPress comes out with an update, putting your hard work and business at risk.

I contacted Landing Page Monkey and asked them if I could edit the HTML and CSS that their program outputs since they advertised being able to download the HTML and upload it to your own server, I decided to pass on the offer. Here is their response:

"We thank you for your query. There is no CSS file with Landingpage Monkey and you cannot edit html or any other LPM files

So Like GlenH stated, I would be dependent on this company for my landing pages. If they go out of business or stopped supporting their product, which happens a lot on this forum, then all my hard work would be for nothing.

Originally Posted by Oziboomer

I beg to differ.

Maybe in the IM niche there are disappearing acts but if you look at most of the successful long-term software solutions for anything...accounting...surveys...banking....hosti ng etc.

The survivors offer either Upgrades at a cost, subscriptions or they charge you processing fees. - that or they are open source.

Development costs money.

Owning a piece of software is not really a sound idea as once it stops working your investment is worth ZERO.

I can agree that a one-time fee is appealing and many companies offer one-time fees to get a project off the ground but if your business depends on it you want to be sure the support is there for the long term so whatever model the company uses to maintain cash-flow I would suggest - urge you - that you consider supporting any good software product if it is going to continue to deliver you value.

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garyk1968 9 years ago

I bought it and I am just playing with it.

First impressions are that its quite good. I have optimisepress too and its not as slick as that but cost wise its better. I do think you would end up with alot of pages that look very similar as the options are pretty limited in terms of the overall layout.

As others have said no templates as a starting point is a little poor.Biggest blocker for me at the moment is that it looks like you are constrained to a '2-step' signup. The software expects you to pop a box with one button which then takes you to the second box where the sign-up occurs. This is very inflexible, I want a one hit deal, head, sub and email field and submit button.

You can put lpm pages into wordpress no problem.

Thanks for the heads up on optingate, looks like it offers way more variety in terms of layouts and styles although has to run in WP.

for me the jury is out, will have more of a play with it but not sure if its a 'keeper'.
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stesnees

9 years ago

Squeeze robot by Will R is much better in my view, html based and also VERY simple to use. Less than half the price of this too.

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Jesus Perez

9 years ago

I bought this at $27. It's true there are no templates. I suspect that won't be a problem for long as people jump on and start releasing them (or selling them).

Overall, the simplicity of the concept doesn't really bother me. This product fits a very specific niche that I've been needing. The "quick and easy" squeeze page niche. Sometimes I just need a fast squeeze page for a promo. I don't want to install WP and I don't want to upload HTML and start digging through code. This fits that need perfectly. I log in, make some quick changes, upload a background pic to Imgur and export the HTML for my website and I'm done. Once I have a template I like, I just clone it. Fast and easy.

As for the future $497 price tag they're talking about...I suspect it will involve significant upgrades...and that's one of the reasons I bought in early. Hopefully these theoretical upgrades will trickle down to the early bird buyers. *fingers crossed*

On the topic of SaaS. Simon and Jeremy have many SaaS projects in the market and they've all proven reliable. I'm not worried about them disappearing any time soon with the level of success they're experiencing.

Keep in mind this product is not similar to OptimizePress or ProfitBuilder, so I don't think it's a fair "apple to apples" comparison. Leadpages is also -definitely- not a fair comparison. For now, I'm happy with the investment and this tool's functionality.

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Mark Hess

9 years ago

For all the talk about "templates" maybe I'm missing something....

Place the squeeze box on the center, right, or left of the screen. Choose an animation effect (if you want)

Choose the text that gets displayed inside the box along with any images or video.

Select a video or image background.

Paste in autoresponder form code.

Done.

It's pretty much idiot proof. (I said "pretty much")

But it would be awesome if either them or someone else came up with assets you could use such as video backgrounds and/or static images that can be incorporated. Is that what everyone means by "templates"?

Originally Posted by Jesus Perez

Keep in mind this product is not similar to OptimizePress or ProfitBuilder, so I don't think it's a fair "apple to apples" comparison. Leadpages is also -definitely- not a fair comparison. For now, I'm happy with the investment and this tool's functionality.

I agree. The way some people started marketing this as a "LeadPages killer" is very inaccurate in my opinion.

One thing I hope they would take from LeadPages is the ability to have a plugin that can scan your account and import your templates from LandingPage Monkey into your Wordpress site. A plugin like that has little chance of "breaking" and would make this ideal for Wordpress users.

Personally, I hope they don't "upgrade" too much, if at all. The last thing anyone needs is another convoluted piece of software that tries to do too much and in the process, it's a hassle to use and is buggy.

Originally Posted by stesnees

Squeeze robot by Will R is much better in my view, html based and also VERY simple to use. Less than half the price of this too.

Last time I checked Squeeze Robot is not even close to this unless Will added a bunch of features recently.

Originally Posted by Gladiator

Ideal for chucking up a hosted page?, Yes but it will show the powered by --[B] Landing Page Monkey-not good.

This could be quite good...

If you click on the "Affiliate" tab in the members area, (after you're approved to promote LandingPage Monkey), place your JVZoo id in the box.

You will get credit for any sales you generate when someone clicks on that link.

(Your JVZoo id can be found in under "My Account": http://screencast.com/t/0EDL821XG)

Right now, it's not working, I contacted their support just to let them know.

When I was using LeadRocket, I made money each month (typically 12-13 sales) simply by people clicking on the "powered by" link. I do the same thing when building OptimizePress sites, easy commissions.

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cigarzfan

9 years ago

LOL. They are selling a landing page builder and they don't even use their own product for the sales page? You can see on What WordPress Theme Is That? that they used WP Profit Builder for their own home page. Why wouldn't someone skip right to Profit Builder?

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Mark Hess

9 years ago

Originally Posted by cigarzfan

LOL. They are selling a landing page builder and they don't even use their own product for the sales page? You can see on What WordPress Theme Is That? that they used WP Profit Builder for their own home page. Why wouldn't someone skip right to Profit Builder?

LandingPage Monkey can't be used to make full blown sales pages.

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BeechHill

9 years ago

I got a hold of this and even though I'm not a big fan of SaaS software. This however, looks like the future for a lot of new products.

You need to consider the seller. Simon and Jeremy have been around a good long time and have moved to this business model over the past year with a bunch of their new introductions. Most are simple to use, reasonably priced and represent a good, fair value.

If you need such a product, then this one can fit the bill nicely. If you can't get $27 worth of use out of it over the next year, then you're just not using it.

I have to agree with Jesus and Mark, that this is not meant to be a Profit Builder knock off, or Lead Pages killer for that matter. In fact, if you scroll to the bottom of the Landing Page Monkey sales page you'll find a video promo with Sean Donahoe, author of Profit Builder. He recognizes that this software makes a great fit with his product and is promoting it.

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felixcohen

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BeechHill

I have to agree with Jesus and Mark, that this is not meant to be a Profit Builder knock off, or Lead Pages killer for that matter. In fact, if you scroll to the bottom of the Landing Page Monkey sales page you'll find a video promo with Sean Donahoe, author of Profit Builder. He recognizes that this software makes a great fit with his product and is promoting it.

How LPM complements Profit Builder exactly if it does not have ready templates which the other does? Also does it offer better functionality?

Other than templates, both do same job so I don't see why I would need LPM if I already have Profit Builder. Is LPM SaaS like Profit Builder?

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Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by felixcohen

How LPM complements Profit Builder exactly if it does not have ready templates which the other does? Also does it offer better functionality?

LPM is a relatively quick and easy way to build HTML landing pages. You don't need a Wordpress installation, and you can track some stats and have them host the pages for you if needed.

Other than templates, both do same job so I don't see why I would need LPM if I already have Profit Builder. Is LPM SaaS like Profit Builder?

LPM is an SaaS and it builds HTML pages, Profit Builder is a Wordpress plugin and it builds pages within your Wordpress installation.

So if you want an easy way to build HTML landing pages, and don't want to try to convert Profit Builder Wordpress pages to HTML, then LPM can be a good fit. Profit Builder can build entire sales pages (the long ones) etc, LPM can't, it was not designed to build complex pages.

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Jeff Gibson

9 years ago

Does anyone know if Landing Page Monkey outputs a standard HTML file along with an CSS file that can be further edited in an HTML editing program?

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Jesus Perez

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Gibson

Does anyone know if Landing Page Monkey outputs a standard HTML file along with an CSS file that can be further edited in an HTML editing program?

No, it does not. Here is a sample of a landing page HTML output. It's only one single HTML file with the contents below.

Code:

<!doctype HTML>
<html>
<head>
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, user-scalable=no">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta charset="utf-8">
</head>
<!-- Created with Landing Page Monkey - (C) http://landingpagemonkey.com -->
<body>

    <script src="http://landingpagemonkey.com/lpage.php?u=2618&p=1199"></script>
</body>
</html>

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Jeff Gibson

9 years ago

Thanks Jesus Perez,

It's unfortunate that it isn't the full HTML that could be edited to make the landing pages even better.

Originally Posted by Jesus Perez

No, it does not. Here is a sample of a landing page HTML output. It's only one single HTML file with the contents below.

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<!doctype HTML>
<html>
<head>
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, user-scalable=no">
    <meta name="description" content="">
    <meta charset="utf-8">
</head>
<!-- Created with Landing Page Monkey - (C) http://landingpagemonkey.com -->
<body>

    <script src="http://landingpagemonkey.com/lpage.php?u=2618&p=1199"></script>
</body>
</html>

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BeechHill

9 years ago

Originally Posted by felixcohen

How LPM complements Profit Builder exactly if it does not have ready templates which the other does? Also does it offer better functionality?

Other than templates, both do same job so I don't see why I would need LPM if I already have Profit Builder. Is LPM SaaS like Profit Builder?

While templates are great for getting a jump start on your layouts, I'm not so sure that the simplicity of optin form design would necessitate them. By the time you modify a template you could have just as easily built one from scratch with LPM. There are plenty of examples you can readily copy.

As far as being a good fit with PB, it's like comparing a Swiss army knife with a scalpel. The major benefit which LPM has and PB doesn't, is to offer built in conversion stats and tracking. results. You could get another plugin for this, but then you're just adding to the overhead of your site. Not to mention once you've found a high converting solution you can easily duplicate it across your network no matter what platform you're using.

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Georgecom

9 years ago

Still the biggest problem with LPM as I see it is no pre-made templates.

It is supposed to be an easy option when you need to make a fast and simple and nice looking LP with your AR integrated - FAST.

Now the problem here is that with no templates you have to start from scratch, add everything, think about colors, effects, gradients, text, button design, again colors etc etc. Then preview, change, redesign, tweak, preview again, change, redesign, preview... you get it.

If there was a handful of PREmade templates available, you'd see right out of the box how it looks and if it suits your case for the moment. Then just change your header text, add your AR code, click - done.
THAT would be a 100% fit for the niche this product is supposed to cover.

I needed such a tool and I invested in LPM for that purpose. Now, I'm still left with all those design-preview-design options that I had with my good old MS Frontpage.

Now, I'm not negative or something like that. It's a good piece of software and the idea behind it is perfect. It only needs that tiny little thingy to 00% match the purpose of it.

Just 2 cents from an experienced landing page builder...

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GP

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tyronne78

9 years ago

Just saw some of the landing pages Jonathan Leger (7-Figure internet marketer) whipped up in a few minutes. Absolutely beautiful! I'm not just saying this because I'm promoting Landing Page Monkey as an affiliate. Absolute steal for what they're asking for it (a one time payment of $30).

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Profit Builder is NOT SaaS. It's a one-time fee. And when I looked at it, LPM was NOT for Wordpress? Or do they also have a plugin as well as being for regular HTML sites. As far as tracking stuff goes, just use IMSC Rapid Mailer, tracks everything. There's even an extension for it where you can visually see on a map what your subscribers are doing in terms of clicks/opens. Pair this with Heat Map Tracker and you've got the data you need.

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felixcohen

9 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

As far as tracking stuff goes, just use IMSC Rapid Mailer, tracks everything. There's even an extension for it where you can visually see on a map what your subscribers are doing in terms of clicks/opens. Pair this with Heat Map Tracker and you've got the data you need.

You don't compare IMSC Rapid Mailer with leading email marketing providers like Aweber at least in terms of email deliverability.

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ForumGuru

Banned 9 years ago

Yeah, I mentioned above Profit Builder is a WP plugin (not an SaaS). Correct, LPM is not a Wordpress plugin and they do not have a Wordpress plugin. Sure one could add an LPM HTML page to the same domain that you have a Wordpress installation on.

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Why not? you use send grid and have good email content you're deliverability will be as good. Without the worry of having your account yanked or having aweber go down in a ddos attack. You own your list. Just because it's not aweber doesn't mean it's worthless you know.

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felixcohen

9 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Why not? you use send grid and have good email content you're deliverability will be as good. Without the worry of having your account yanked or having aweber go down in a ddos attack. You own your list. Just because it's not aweber doesn't mean it's worthless you know.

What is this grid you are talking about?

It's not only Aweber but GetResponse and other top email marketing solution providers that have good deliverability.

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ForumGuru

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by felixcohen

What is this grid you are talking about?

It's not only Aweber but GetResponse and other top email marketing solution providers that have good deliverability.

https://sendgrid.com/

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felixcohen 9 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

https://sendgrid.com/

Cheers

-don

Are they some kind of solution that can be integrated in some privately developed email service program/script that allows sending of email through same nodes/servers that are in whitelist in most ISP so the end result would be as if you sent with likes of Aweber, GetResponse, MailChimp, iContact etc.?
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Oziboomer

9 years ago

I'm not sure whether it was Kyosaki or someone else who said "You don't need to own the plane to travel first class"

Paid subscribers to anything generally travel in a different class to others.

That is why the continuity model works

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cypherslock

9 years ago

Sure the continuity model works. And there are some things I'll pay monthly for (like ScriptDoll) but for the most part, keeping your monthly costs low is always a good idea.

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Oziboomer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Sure the continuity model works. And there are some things I'll pay monthly for (like ScriptDoll) but for the most part, keeping your monthly costs low is always a good idea.

Agreed...keep monthly costs low and under control.

I'm not sure what tax system you work under but in Australia we have different tax positions regarding whether technology is owned or leased.

In some circumstances it is better to pay a rental or subscription from a tax point of view than to own and then have to claim a depreciation of the asset.

In many cases the "rental" option has more advantages than the "owned" but this varies according to what it is you are talking about (for example one of my vehicles breaks into the luxury car tax bracket so it is better to utilise the tax benefit of claiming certain deductions on that asset in a lump sum rather than monthly but this is what any good accountant can advise you on.

I'm sure in some circumstances it is better to own and in others it is better to rent.

Best to get professional advise for your situation.