Perry Belcher! He's Promoting Hard. Anyone know of him?

Hi youallnome,

Yeah,he is promoting himself hard. His e-book getmoneyfromgoogle was bits and tips. I hope you check out reviews by other marketers.

Thanks.

Jeffrey

Honestly, Perry is one of the sharpest and smartest marketers I have ever seen. Hes very cutting edge and everything I have seen him put out has been better then %99 of the stuff other people teach. Him and Ryan D are top shelf in this industry when it comes to quality.

I have received numerous emails from him as of late. I am not sure how I got on his list really. His information looks quality.

Well, everyone makes mistakes....it's the ones that won't own up to it that you really have to worry about.

It won't keep me from being a customer.

AW888

Perry knows his stuff and the "naughty stuff" is very much OLD NEWS now.

He makes a lot of money and stays on the right side of the law these days, you should pay attention to him.

thanks
Andy

Yes, this is old news and Perry has a lot of great things to offer.

I got started on a very bad footing with Perry, but since then I've talked to him several times and I'd say he's one of the best guys in this industry.

It's rather amusing how some people refer to what he did as a mistake. You even have one guy in the thread calling it blkht. WTF? The dude broke the law in a big way. He laughed his ass all the way to the bank. He gets caught and then is sorry about it all? Come on people. Do you think he would still be peddling his sugar pills if he hadn't gotten busted?

Ah what the hell... he seems like a nice enough guy. Send him some more money then I guess.

You wonder why the big names are all promoting his stuff? It's because they all know that they are a heartbeat away from going through the same thing. They only hope that people will be around to pick them up and help them start over. It's the good ole boys network alive and well.

All you have to do is think about this stuff just a little bit. It's not to hard to figure out.

Hey we are all entiltled to make a mistake. And yes Perry could possibly still be selling his pills if he hadnt been caught. However he was and has paid the price.

Great that he hasn't attempted to hide it, i wonder how many other business's have horror storied they have covered up. (just about every big corporate business then!)

The difference here in the IM world is it's oh so easy to dig a little and find out the info both good and bad.

Kudos to Perry for realising his mistake and having the sense to come out and be honest up front about it.

Mark

I have come across Perry but didn't really know anything about him, the information he has given so far has been solid. He's also partnering with Ryan Deiss, So as long as Ryan Deiss is involved you can give them your money & have peace of mind. If you are not satisfied with what you get, you will always get a refund.

I find it hilarious that Mike Filsaime is promoting Belcher's bait and switch twitter tactics, just a week after he claimed to have "seen the light" in regards to social media marketing and stopped following nearly everyone...

Do these people think we are all morons?

Tyrus

It's true that some of the more well known (Not the highest earning) IM'ers are friends. And they do help each other with promotion of their products, just like any good friend would do.

But what I don't get is why everyone has to keep on bitchin' and moanin' about these people.

Don't like the e-mails Filsaime sends you than unsubscribe and you never have to hear from him again.

Don't like the product Perry is putting out than don't buy it!

Here's the thing these guys know what they're doing, and they're very good at it.

Filsaime's, Kern's, Belcher's, Moffatt's, Walkers's products all deliver value. Massive value, value that in the right hands will sky rocket your business to the same height as theres.

It's becoming cool to hate these people because it's easy to do, but where is that getting you?

How much money is that making you?

Maybe it's time to start thinking about what's going to get you ahead.

Zach

It has nothing to do with hating anybody. It is more a matter of putting the word out to keep others from getting snake bit.

Haven't heard of him

This forum is for reviewing PRODUCTS not people. This thread started out with good intentions but has derailed.

I suggest people read the sticky:

I saw Perry Belcher at Yanik Silver's Underground Seminar in DC in 2007. Remember him well.... He was one of the speakers there and I must say I was impressed at the time--he got a lot of cheers from the audeince.

Perry (supposedly) comes from a very humble background and is a very 'motivated' individual who claimed to make millions monthly. (I was not exactly sure if Perry's statements were true or not but he was and probably still is very entertaining, that's for sure)...Knows a lot about making money with outsourcing.... Incidentally, the audience just loved it as he tossed gourmet chocolates, Victoria Secret gifts to them.

The product teaches you tactics that can get you banned from social networks. It is also being promoted by people who supposedly had an "epiphany" on social media and decided they would no longer do bait and switch tactics. Obviously the "epiphany" originated from the fact that their tactics no longer work.

My take? Proceed with care.

Tyrus

BERNIE MADOFF made mistakes too. I'm very confident he "Knew what he was doing too". I guess we can shrug that off as well eh?
Let's face it people, it wasn't "MISTAKES" that were made. It was GREED that was performed & it was the fact that he was CAUGHT.

I love how people just randomly name of names, "X, Y, Z" Yep, they do good stuff, they know what they are doing. "Knowing What You Are Doing" is an assumption. You don't know for a fact what is SPENT, and what is actual revenue is really generated.

Until marketers can actually specifically speak to the costs of what their programs are
in a clear & concise way, absolutely "NO ONE" "KNOWS" what they are doing.

OK, so here's the deal:
there are 3 levels of the program, at $1K for the videos, $2K for the coaching, and $3K for the mastermind. I actually like Perry a lot, and think his content and strategies are great, but not wanting to spend 1K now, are there other products or WSOs out there that are teaching the same concepts for less?

I received an email a couple days ago from an "Expert" Internet Marketer who is promoting Perry's Social Media program. In this email the marketer was praising Perry's knowledge of Social Media and how he has over 100,000 people following him on Twitter. Well, he is also following 100,000 people on Twitter. Tell me, now do you follow 100,000 people on Twitter?

Before you spend a dime on a product that promises you Social Media riches, I recommend that you watch the two minute youtube video linked below where Seth Godin makes this excellent point about Social Networking (please note, I am paraphrasing). . . .

"The internet has allowed an enormous amount of fake networking to take place and it is easy to be seduced by it. It's not about how many people are following you on Twitter or what that little scoreboard at the top of the page says. It's about connecting with people and having 'Real Relationships' with people and prospects. And you get this by going out of your way for them. It's about earning that priveledge of one day having that connection with them."

Here is the link to "Seth Godin on Social Networking."

Everyone is looking for a short-cut. Everyone is looking for instant profits and instant traffic. Folks, it's about serving and it's about adding value to the market.

My question is this: Does Perry's product help in this regard?

Can't believe what this forum is turning into...most of you posters here need to go make some money instead of playing detectives and trying to bring people down.

Perry Belcher had around 10k people listening to his advice last night on a webinar...must say some seriously good things if he's got 10k people taking his advice.

We work with Perry, I've never met him...but he seems to be trusted by a lot of people at this point...maybe because he's so open about his past and ready to move forward.

I am not saying that I would BUY his products or that I totally trust perry.

EDIT: And no I didn't buy the product, and I DON"T wanna buy it simply because I don't want to use social media as one of the top ways to bring income.

I only trust a handfull of these big names, because they proved to me that besides wanting my money (witch I have nothing against, nothing is free in life so get over it) they actually want to help people.

And another thing, its all about who your target is...I see alot of people complaining "but what for the average guy?" or stuff like that...did you think for a second that maybe you were not his targeted customer?

If you do research on all the products that the big names have sold, you will ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS see that the ones that complain to be a scam or stuff are the ones that spend their food money or some sht on the product, the ones that tested it for a whole 2-3 days and all that crap...

While in the background, the other people are already making money.

People have to start thinking for themselves..."if this product is $2000 will I HAVE THE RESOURCES to use it?, do I have the AMBITION to use it for more then 2-3 weeks?"

If people were to start asking those questions first before they spend their food money on those courses, then I can GUARANTEE that 80% of the blogs out there that claim x product is garbage would never have existed.

And with perry...I just got a simple question: do YOU trust Deiss? Did he prove himself to actually wanna help people?

If your answer is yes, then by all means...go buy perry's product, because I personally don't think that Deiss would associate himself with Perry if he didn't think that he is trustworthy.

And for god sakes people, stop it with "the gu.ru's only want my money, they don't care about us...they just want money"...you don't like somebody, unsubscribe.

And maybe he DOESN'T want to help you, maybe he wants to help people that are making $10.000 a month or more...did you ever consider that?

Nobody is making you pay $2000 on a product, you decided that...but like I said, if you spend that money out of your rent money or some sht, then don't expect it to make you rich.

I have ALWAYS considered that if your just starting out, buying $2000 courses is a very bad idea UNLESS you can HONESTLY afford it.

wow! this thread is on the emotional twittering point ;-)
yes... I meant teetering point and tweetering point all the same.

Here's the thing.
1) if there is something of value in course to you... buy it
2) if you get a few good ideas that help you earn more money and actually deliver a return on your investment... buy it
3) this thread was titled "anyone know Perry Belcher"
my answer is 'not really' but lots of people think they know him by following him or watching is videos.
As anyone in hollywood can attest, what you see is not often what you get "let the buyer beware" as always...

Perry appears to be (APPEARS TO BE) a fast talking salesman / preacher type with something to sell to a given audience.

But... here we sit several hours after his masterful PLF launch and he has still not sold out!
I can still buy each one of the 3 product levels...

what does that tell you about the power of a 130,000 strong list of people that follow you via SM? When it comes down to the wire... 250 Customers is less than .2%
and Perry has not been able to close 250 sales for either his mastermind or his coaching club...

that should tell you something compared with unreal online conversion successes by Frank Kern, John Reese and co recently in a 24hr period

heck, if Perry's coaching did not yet sell out completely already... something was either wrong with the pitch or the 10,000 people on the webinar were leaches

I did mention earlier the word 'preacher' and in many ways, especially linguistically, Perry comes across as a man with a mission and that mission is to spread the word and the word is buy stuff from me and I mean like today, not tomorrow because there is scarcity and seriously limited resources and no one wants to work hard for their money anymore so WE DO IT ALL FOR YOU.... hmmm ... for a moment, that sounded a lot like Jeff Johnson!

Anyhow, enjoy the free videos folks... they are a hoot.
Use the info and TEST TEST TEST... then I'll see ya'll back at the stompernet water cooler for some more of the same

Good luck to those that are brave or wealthy enough to step into Perry's pool - I'd love to hear about the experience and hope it helps you to achieve one of your goals this month... or next... cause there is a 60 day money back guarantee and... just a sec...

with a 60 day guarantee, this should be a no brainer folks... why haven't you bought Perry's course yet? heck there are only 250 seats and most are probably already gone by now


ok... here is an update on the 24th July at 4am EDT and the numbers are the same as they were at 6pm!

and the scarcity tactic rears its head again but WITH THE SAME NUMBERS AS 8hrs ago!
"I'm only allowing 1000 people to have access to this
training:

250 at the MASTERMIND level -----------> around 14 spots open
250 at the SUCCESS COACHING level ----> around 29 spots open

500 at the MULTIMEDIA TRAINING level ----> 72 spots available

If you want to be 1 of the 14 people left who get it DONE for THEM
you better cross your fingers and act now:"

If there were a lot of people on the webinar is was probably because, as John Reese once said, if you offer a big enough commission anyone will pimp it.

I'll tell you this, and my office has previously corresponded with the authorities who prosecuted Belcher, there is no way I'd pay a dime for this thing. Just my personal opinion. It's your money.

But, maybe that criminal angle has an appeal for getting 'followers.' Someone was just telling me that convicted murderer Scott Peterson gets more fan mail than most Hollywood celebrities.

Here is the way he broke it down in an email....

I am only allowing 1000 people to have access to this training:

250 at the MASTERMIND level...
250 at the SUCCESS COACHING level, and...
500 at the MULTIMEDIA TRAINING level

I bought Perry's "Make Money With Google" (or something like that). Even though the buying syphon left me feeling a little used and cheated, the product itself proved really valuable for me and was great for furthering my online marketing education at the time.

I wouldn't recommend this particular product to advanced/experienced internet marketers, but it's great for building your base knowledge, which seems to be the case for most products that he's producing.

I find his marketing methods are pretty normal (as opposed to being spammy, pushy or downright offensive) for the internet marketing niche and I've only experienced his content (free and not) to be above average.

As mentioned I commented on Perrys block.
I had a look at it today.
There are no new comments after the 20th of June and mine still awaiting moderation.
Just out of curiosity:
could someone please check at Perry Belchers Original Post whether that is a general policy or just shown to me.
If it is, and if it is not, it tells a lot about dialog in social media.

and the world will change and we will all be living in peace and everybody will be equal...

Selmedica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Belcher's Co. that got shut down

Has anyone here actually seen this course yet? Is it any good?

I 'passed' on the $1k one that went to 500 people. If it is operated like others, there will soon be a 'lite' version offered at $400 to 2,000 people. I might be interested in that one.

I would love to hear what you get, when you get it and how you like it.

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In any case the Webinar Perry Belcher presented the night before his launch was one of the best overviews I got about socialmedia. Now that the launch is almost over it can be seen in a replay:
Perry Belcher PreLaunch Webinar.
It lasts more than one hour but it is absolutely worth it.
We all agree that Perry Belcher is one of the leading experts when it comes to social media. So to watch this webinar is absolutely worth it.
He claims it will be up for 48 hours only. Copuld be a marketing trick again.
But this time it might be true...

Best Social Media Overviews?

Plagiarism at its best
watch Perry's video @ 10:43

The Guy Repeats exactly what Gary Vaynerchuk said at the WEB 2.0 COnference in NY
Just fast forward the video I posted in a post above to 04:40 and you will see.

Or go to this very specific video on his blog where he lays down the concept of Legacy on Web 2.0

http://garyvaynerchuk.com/post/78887...-than-currency


So my point is that there are o lot of better places to learn about WEB 2.0 and Social Media for waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less and also get a better understanding of the new tools.

just my 2 cents

When I started this thread a few weeks ago I knew it would bring a big response. I also knew we would see a whole load of mixed comments, some of which are on target, some of which almost seem like a witch hunt.

I'd never heard of Perry Belcher before I got the email promoting his Twitter course. The reason I mentioned him was because of a link he was giving reference to in his pdf.

I was much more interested in the information that came from the link! In fact, it led to a product I've been looking to buy.

Belcher is without a doubt a good marketer. He follows the basic rules to the letter. His pre promotion, videos, emails, webanars and partners are all good quality.

And what he said about twitter was bang on, no doubts. Whether he learnt the twitter stuff himself, or replicated it from someone else really makes little difference. He knows how to market, and that is something most people get wrong.

As for his past and the methods he used to get sales: I think it is inexcusable. I think he did wrong and he should have been punished, and I'm glad he did get punished.

If he was selling ebooks on how to catch more fish, and it turned out to be bollocks, then I'd hate what he did a lot less. But to get involved with products that humans have to digest, ingest, apply to body, then he was a stupid person. That to me is selling your soul to the devil - - for cheap.

But he has been punished. The law, his community, fellow business people, warriors, his wallet, and uncle Tomm Cobley and all have had their 2 cents worth of flesh from Belcher, so I think we should leave that alone and judge him for now.

We should focus more on what he does now and always keep it in the back of our mind that he's good, but maybe too good. That way you can make a better decision on whether he's offering you value with his products. And the only warriors who can help us there with the truth are the people that took the risk and bought the course.

Personally I thing the course will do exactly what he says it can do.

And in the right hands I'm sure it'll prove super successful. Do I think it's expensive? I do in deed, and I would agree that you can get the same stuff for a lot less if you hunt around and purchase different information from different people.

Some people want it all NOW, and they want it made easy. The videos are a plus. That's probably the real reason it is the best of what is about at the moment.

I would advise all beginners to follow the free videos, ebook and sales copy. He's a great test to watch for a business model, and it might be worth joining his mailing lists. I think a lot of people looking for success could learn some basic marketeering ideas from him.

But don't spend money, and don't take a foolish step without checking him out (as you should with every product/person). The warrior forum is the gold mine of providing the whole truth, and that is what you should do first.

I'm glad I've heard about him and I will be following him for sure.

I do think he's worth watching. A lot of top dogs are helping him with this, and not every super affiliate and professional marketers has done a pact with the devil. And loads of the big boys have been plugging and recommending and promoting him.

I did not buy the course (and did not intend to) and I think he could have sold it at a more realistic price. But I wish him well as I do with every honest IM-er

I hope some of the people who bought his course are willing to share their recommendations and successes. That'll answer us all.

Great thread! Thank you all for your input. I appreciate the time taken.

Sincerely,
John

Seth's Blog: Four videos about noise, social and decency

Wicked post everyone ... a fantastic read -

js

I listened to S. Godin's videos and I couln't agree more. I felt somehow guilty about the facebook - that I'm not "using it to my advantage", but for some reason all this software for harvesting "friends" didn't sit well with me at all. I personally do't like twitter at all - as it reminds me of a huge trashbin, where everyone talks about nothing (or nearly everyone). It's the same thing with IM - I never god sold on the idea of selling just anything, making these direct linking campaigns using only an indicator of how much money I'll do, and what gravity it is, what comission etc. Because - and it applies to everything - if you'll become very effective in selling a lot of stuff, then what if what you're selling is not doing any good? Or maybe even doing some harm to people? Tricking them to waste their money for something completely useless only because you're very good at writing copy, or good at sucking them in through social media? You do a campaign because it's "profitable" in the clickbank stats, and GCD or whatever says they sell a lot of it. And you got all this thousands of people on your list on twitter, facebook, mailing lists etc etc - and you sell crap to them all. Not for me

I know I probably went to far - it's because the word "decency". I don't like the way Belcher is using social media. The only indicator how effective it is is how many dollars you do per user per month.