Zero Friction Marketing

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Someone is promoting this product into the list
Anyone bought this? any good review?

This is by Saj P the same guy wiht The Site Rush if I'm not mistaken
#internet marketing product reviews & ratings #friction #marketing
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    • Have been reading through the forum and was wondering how you are doing on the Zero Friction Marketing Course. Did you purchase the OTOs, which ones and which do you feel really are great.

      Sandy
  • hi...I actually just bought it.

    Not been able to put it in practice yet ...well I bought it 90 min ago

    Just to give you a heads up on the sales process....
    It's priced at 67$ (I think... )
    Remember to try to leave the sales page so you can get the 10$ discount you will then get an OTO for an advanced version of the course that is priced at 57$, now it wasn't made abundantly clear...but this purchase is a continuity one(57 every month).
    The next OTO is for a twitter product (can't remember the price, wasn't interested)
    the next OTO are for the templates to several campaigns so you can do a "copy and profit" and get yourself going very quickly (this is priced at 197$)

    So to sum up , you may want to budget about 300$ for the CPA components of the course...it has been mentioned that there are ways to market with no money down... But you'll probably will feel more confident if you can add a few hundreds to your budget above purchase price so you can get yourself started.

    from glancing at the content ...well there is a lot of it...probably going to take a full day to go through it all...I think budgeting 3 days worth of time to learn and apply a few things as you go along would be wise....

    There are also a ton of bonuses , so going through them would also add to your time budget.

    I have some holidays coming up...so will implement in early august...if anyone wants to keep in touch feel free to PM...I am a noob at CPA but...I have the course ...I have the time and I have thebudget...so if I fail ...it will be likely because of me!

    If it turns out that this course suffer from any major malfunction...well you do have the clickbank money back guarantee...

    As usual...you know in advance why you would be likely to fail : FAILURE TO IMPLEMENT

    I would appreciate if you could give me a hand there...here is the deal:

    PM me and I'll sign up to your IM mailing list for whatever products you offer , in exchange send me some reminders in the next two to three weeks asking me how I am doing and making sure I don't flunk out of it...You are welcome to taunt me mercilessly until I IMPLEMENT the darn thing

    Do not hesitate to PM me if you have any questions...

    Manuel Boissiere
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  • Just a quick add on to my previous post.

    As there are a lot of people promoting it...take the time to chose the right affiliate offering bonuses that will help you...I got mine through JP shoeffel of CNM fame , he is offering a webinar to keep everyone on track...
    I also have most of his products, so I trust him...
    As I said , find the right mentor/affiliate...

    Good Luck
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    • Out of interest, what's the CPA network that's offering guaranteed acceptance to all purchasers? (mentioned on sales page)
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  • Is the media buy portion one of the quick and easy parts of the couse to set up?
    Seems to me that, if that part works, you wouldnt need to do anything else....
  • Saj P is a great dude! Were working with him on our next launch!
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    • Great review Manuel. I really liked Saj's previous products so I am going to check this one out myself and see if it works for me.
  • I bought a copy 15 minutes ago. Being no stranger to IM products,
    at first look, it appears to cater to newbies, as well as the more advanced crowd.
    There looks like there are some things that an advanced user can use, so I will post a review after I get through the material..

    First impressions... how may OTO's can one throw at you before you get to the actual product? This one had an overkill on the OTOs in my book. One OTO is usually tolerable and expected, two is pushing it... the third OTO had me praying there wasn't a fourth... LoL

    Aside from the OTOs, looks like I may be able to use some of it, I don't need the stuff for newbies, and will be implementing some of the actual methods starting tonight,we'll see where it goes from there....


    Howard
  • What module is that in? Im hoping its in the basic package and not part of the OTO offers, as I did not get any of the OTOs.

    Howard
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    • I would also like to know.
  • At Howdab2 and GJhough

    If you can bear to wait untill this weekend , I'll be taking my first look at the course, I'll make it my priority to find out if it's in the basic version, I am pretty sure that it is...(wouldn't really make sense in to put it in the OTO that I have bought...I'll confirm that in a couple of days....

    Of course if someone else or the author would care to shime in and help these 2 fellow Warriors...That would be even better...

    Right, back to work...can't hang on these forums too long on company time
  • Just purchased it. It's LOADS of content and video's. Will take at least a full day to go through everything. ( Unless you already know how to set up websites and get accepted - Which most advanced marketers do)

    Not only that, but everything is step by step, and there are a few quality unadvertised bonuses there as well ;o)

    I haven't had time to watch anything but the intro video, but it looks really good to me! (I don't really have time to take a look at everything now, as I'm starting my offline business, but I will do when I get the time)

    Regards,
    Preben
  • Thanks for the reply yall,
    I have been skimming thru it,
    but havent found mention of any no
    or low cost alternatives to ppc...

    I am an advanced user myself, know the hosting/ftp etc,
    but I am going to go back thru the newbie vids
    to see if it was mentioned there..

    I have looked at the more advanced modules, and must say, they are quite detailed
    as to how and what to do , step by step. So far, im impressed. Ill be even more impressed when I see results
    Saj P is right. These sources have been right in front of me all this time,
    and just wasnt aware of their potential, or what they offered.

    Will look forward to hearing back from yall!

    Howard
  • I'll try to follow at least one of the modules tomorrow or in the weekend, and then post the results. Can't promise anything though, as I always have plenty of things to do.
  • The only reason I want to buy it is because of the hot chick who did the testimonial.
    Definitely a female guru in the making.
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    • Dude!!! - That chick is sexy.... I need to find me a sexy chick like that who is ballin hard that she is.
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  • I was also hoping to learn more about if it is truly newbie-friendly, before the price increase deadline of 12 noon EST today (Friday.).
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    • It is newbie friendly. And IF it's too hard for you(which I doubt), you can always get a refund.
    • I just bought the product and it looks pretty newbie friendly to me. It looks like it goes into a lot about using alternative traffic sources to Adwords to make money with CPA offers.

      I've just downloaded all the videos (29 of them) and I'm converting them so I can watch them on my iPhone. I'm pretty excited to try this and I'll give my full review a little bit later.

  • The videos are not created by Saj P,videos are created by Phil Mansour,i am on his list and got same vidoes 2 months back,Phil partenered up with Saj to this course.
  • Have not used Zero Friction Marketing. But I am going to look into it, and will add it to my site if it looks worthwhile. Thanks for the heads up.
  • Any thoughts about the sales page where it shows how much money he made but it also shows over 20,000 clicks and 4 or 5,000 actions. How did he get that many clicks without paying for them?

    Or did he use free methods and paid methods?

    Thanks
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    • Does it contain any information on using PPV (CPV) traffic?

      I suspect that is why the sales page has the "Impressions" column blacked out on a couple examples.

      Regards,

      John
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  • Anyone go with any of the upsells? How are the extra videos and/or ready-made campaigns?
  • Where is this phantom section dedicated to 'no investment tactics'?
    Was it part of the OTO? I did skip the newbie stuff, was it mentioned in there?

    Thanks,
    Howard
  • Do anyone has experience with CPA Bullet ?

    Trying to get into CPA offer but wanted to avoid problematic networks.

    Appreciate feedback on this.
  • Hi
    Has anyone tried the methods yet and able to post results? I bought the course but have to say that for me it doesn't live up to Saj P's previous products.
    The myspace module is useless if you live outside of the USA as you need a US credit card to sign up...
    Tony
  • I'm sorry, I haven't had the time yet. Been really busy! But it's on my (very long) to-do list. I'm looking forward to trying it out.

    Too bad the myspace module requires us credit card. Don't they take visa or mastercard? That's just really weird!

    Luckily, there are many other modules =)
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    • I thought the course was great. I took some of the advanced info I got from it and put it to use on my MSN / Bing tonight and I had some crazy low clicks.

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      I found this niche that is HUGE, but has like no advertisers... Pretty crazy, but true.

      My 2cents.
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  • @MoBuck$ - Sure thing, cheap clicks is cool. But did they convert? What was your ROI like, and how much have you currently made with it?
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    • Yea, I've spent about $680 so far, and have almost $1,700 in commissions, which isn't too bad I think. Lets see how it goes for the next few days.
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  • Hey Mobuck,

    Thanks for sharing Mobuck!
    Which advance info were you talking about - the $57 OTO or the $197 OTO
    I think 150% ROI is awesome Congrats!

    Thanks,
    CM
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    • I'd love to find out if this is any good.

      Rappaport
  • Don't get the OTO for copy and paste ads which costs a hefty $197 per month and is useless for anyone outside of the US who wants to use MySpace as they don't accept international advertisers. When I emailed support about this they claimed that the course was aimed at MSN and the MySpace thing was only a bonus. However, the OTO was not a bonus to the main course, it is a monthly subscription, and was sold on the basis of giving 10 copy and paste campaigns on MSN, MySpace and Media Buys and they stated that it would be limited to only 30 people but this is clearly not true which makes it nearly ineffective because if lots of people have it, the CPC will rocket. If you are outside the US, you can only make use of 6 of the campaigns. I have emailed them five times asking if they really have limited it to 30 people but they have releatedly ignored the question. I find this dishonest, but maybe I'm naive to expect marketers to stick to their word especially claims made in a sales letter. In one of their videos they talk about flogs and making up reviews as though you are someone who has really used the product. Phil Mansour describes this as 'creative marketing' but I call it outright lying.
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  • Reading this thread and posts do help one in making up the decision about purchasing ZFM but am skeptical as there are negative and positive posts..

    Anyone genuine benefiting with ZFM ? atleast say ROI of 100% or so ?
  • I bought it and I am doing it. It is for a newbie like me. Everything is clear, doable and simple. I am looking to see it working tomorow probably.
    A stable datum for me.
    EricParis
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  • Good day Warriors

    Those of you who bought in July please start talking as to the how your investment has gone.
    Good or Bad
    Affiliate Jump is the rage now and I have been reading a lot of the posts on CPA.

    Folks are ranging about the 200 dollars by in for AJ.
    But I can imagine seeing that going up in smoke with adwords or MSN for ZFM

    All comments are looked forward to.
  • Hi all!

    I was thinking about getting this product specifically for the MySpace module. My problems are that I now live in the UK, so I'd have to figure out if I can use my US bank card (not a credit card and I know the numbers are different). If I can, great, it may be worth it for me, but regardless, I'd like to find out if there are any other MySpace related programmes out there that anyone can recommend?

    Also, if anyone finds these mystery no start up cost CPA strategies that are mentioned early in this thread, please post and let us know. That may sway me to get the ZFM package without concerning myself with the MySpace module, which at this point is the main attraction of the package.

    Thanks!
    Will
  • I also liked this produkt, I'm totally new to CPA and this is making a lot of sense. But I don't have a legit company yet and you have to, to be successfull with this. I would recomend to use it together with CPA Arbitrage, it just makes the picture more clear to me.
  • I bought it about a week ago. Didn't take up any of the OTO's, and glad I didn't now, hearing that the templates are useless for people outside USA and can't promote on Myspace (I was annoyed at that!)

    Anyway, my 2 cents...It's very thorough, there's a LOT of good content, it teaches good alternative methods of advertising, like media buys etc.

    Using their methods, I was able to get into 5 of the major CPA Networks, which was very satisfying.

    In regards to success story? I haven't tried any of the MSN/Yahoo as of yet, but been using Adbrite. After about 4-5 days, still no conversions, but luckily only about $70 total ad-spend. One prob I've been facing is mostly the issue of landing pages having pop-ups/unders, or the banners saying "Free" when the offer isn't really, so the campaigns were rejected by Adbrite.

    Anyway, back to ZFM, I think it's really good. So much so that I didn't really want to promote it! I was skeptical about Saj P's claims that he didn't like how all the Guru's were gloating about playing their subscribers like sheep, and that they were begging him not to release this stuff etc.

    Of course, you never know the "real truth", but it DOES seem like he's true to his word, as there's some pretty nifty methods taught in there.

    The bonuses are pretty good too. 10+ products, some totally yours to keep, a few trial memberships.

    I still refer back to certain videos, and will continue to do so. Haven't read all the manuals that come along with each module though, as there's a LOT!

    Hope this helps...
  • (+) Lot of videos -> Easy for newbies to grasp the concept

    However, if you want to start making money with it, then you will need money to invest in PPC and media buys.

    Overall, good product.
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    • Could you give any indication of a budget to get this off the ground..

      Cheers
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  • They had a 2 hour webinar the other night which showed a neat little way of getting traffic from YouTube (nothing new) I think the motivation behind this was that at the end they were offering their Elite CPA Coaching program for $995 and can only accept 15 people. 700 people watched it but only 15 were accepted (oh really!!). I filled out the app form lo and behold I was accepted too, but I won't be paying $995! LOL
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    • I bought the basic product which I consider good except for facebook as I am in UK. The videos are excellent and quite informative. There are a million upsells which I hate with a vengeance. I know why upsells are good for marketers and affiliates, but from the consumers point of view it's a sneaky way of getting more money out of you and the extra information is never justified.
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  • Saj is a cool dude. I also talk to Phil from time to time. Phil is the guy doing all the video training. This course is a great course for CPA for any type of marketer.
  • any free traffic ZFM used?
  • Hi,

    Did anybody went through the entire course meanwhile able to share some facts, such as ROI, methods used, strategies implemented?

    Appreciate your answers.

    Volker
  • I've had the Zero Friction course for a couple of weeks and have completed all of it. As a complete newbie to CPA I wish I had more support and had bought it through a person giving support, but that's ok. I bought the ready made templates but got a refund. The course really takes you by the hand and is very comprehensive.

    I have tried attaching annotation to videos and so, buying media that way. I think buying media informally like videos and blogs and forums isn't very easily achieved, but IS worth continuing to try. I'd like to give MSN a try with ppc, for sure.

    Following their instructions I've made it into 4 CPA networks, which I probably wouldn't have gotten into, so I'm happy with that. I find the videos very motivational and have been given good email support.

    The buysellads is a nice interface for buying media. Most of the 'buys' are gone, but you can still pick up some for about $50. Hence buying video annoitations is probably better by the month.

    Carlos and Lupe offer a free ebook on cpa which, combined with Zerofriction and following their many tips and good sort of advice, I feel this area offers a good deal of promise for success. Ill have to keep trying though, as I'm inclined to look for low hanging fruit. If its really that easy, then chances are its already been done to death.

    I realize that Phil lets a few things slide but that's ok, I still think his hearts in the right place; he appears to give out a lot more detail compared to other gurus. I think his product is excellent, but yes, he's definitely out there to make a buck!
  • I bought it, went through the videos, followed the instructions and could not replicate their results. I tried to get email support and was put off by the arrogant and non-helpful response I received.

    It does give ok information about CPA offers and how to pick "winning" offers, but unless you have deep pockets to experiment with the various PPC traffic sources you will lose money.
  • I didn't end up buying this because I am tired of OTO and all types of up-sells. I think people should start being more like Tim Godfrey and Steven Clayton. They always just sell their stuff straight away and make their courses totally complete.

    Ryan
  • I purchased ZFM about a month ago and have been consuming the modules as I have had time. I do agree with Ryan's annoyance with upsells- However, they are effective and I have to believe that more often than not they are profitable when compared to abandoned sales forms.

    I actually purchased through David Guidon's link and was very pleased with bonuses he offered. I did take one upsell- a monthly subscription in return for monthly content.

    With respect to the product, I purchased it for my son, who just graduated from college and will most likely be training to make a run for the 2012 Olympics. He is interested in a business model that will enable him to train, yet earn a decent living.

    I have personally viewed the first two modules, and have found the content to be well presented and of value. Of partucular interest to this thread is Module 1- The Underground CPA files. There is quite a bit of detail devoted to getting accepted into CPA networks. For those needing some guidance on how to proceed you will find this content to be of great use.
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    • one other thing I wanted to mention about this product is that in order to get the cut and paste campaigns that they mention in the marketing copy you have to get the premium upsell package which is another $197. Without it you have to create your own campaigns, which they show you to do.

      But I thought that the copy was a bit misleading.
  • Everyone is complaining about not being able to use MySpace outside of the US, but what about doing the same thing with Friendster or FaceBook. I know that you can use these outside the US.
  • Advertising on facebook should be pretty relevant, as you can target people based on interest, country, demographics etc, as well as you can use a picture, and quite a lot of text too, and it's not very expensive.

    I'm going to try out CPA with facebook advertising soon... (I had a bit success with adbrite too, but not any more)
  • I bought the course and these are my impressions. If you are a newbie it will be good as it starts from scratch.

    If you are intermediate or advanced the course itself is probably too basic. I mean there's stuff about what is CPA, how to open an account with a CPA and with MSN search. Those things you can either figure out yourself or through this forum.

    What might make it worthwhile for the more saavy marketer is that it comes with tons of bonuses, which I haven't gone through yet.

    But I have gone through most of the course and would say that it is for the complete newbie, not for someone who has even say like 6 months experience.
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    After reading the comments, phew, I almost bought it... Damn convincing sales copy!!!
  • Got hold of this product just over a week ago and still going through the bonuses that came with it. Obviously it caters for newbies as you can read above, but I learnt a great deal about what to look for in cpa offers and some stuff about ppc that I had overlooked. Anyone hoping to make money with no investment is wasting their time.

    Yesterday I kicked in a simple campaign selling **** berry. Found the keywords pricey but gave it a go anyway..... Spent $39 first day, converted to $56. Today, so far it looks to have started the same totted up $13 and converted $21.

    Now without stating the obvious, it could be a licence to print money. Maybe these are anomalies, but it doesn't appear so. When more people get in on the act the share of the clicks will go down, but hell, the conversion rates are what are making me excited. Not ready to put the flags up and scream hallelujah yet with this, but it certainly makes you more optimistic than PPC clickbank all the time. Hope that helps.
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  • Could someone PM me the best person or affiliate that I should purchase Zero Friction Marketing from? Like a url or something? Because I understand that lots of affiliates are offering this and throwing in their own bonuses, I'm not sure which one to go with and I want to get my money's worth. I couldn't find David Guidon's link anywhere.
  • ZFM is good, but I have to put a lot of time to understand all the modules. It has many vidoes....
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    • So far I haven't read any really good sucess stories... It has been a few months now, Anyone?
  • I have this, there isn't anything new there. Lots of videos great for a newbies ONLY. He must have used ppc for traffic to get his account banned, he shows us the net amount, but I wounder what his profit was :rolleyes: hummm!
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    • My experience with Zero Friction Marketing has been mostly negative:

      1. The video training is rambling, repetitious, and amateurish.

      2. The video on building landing pages specifically advises you to construct bogus review sites incorporating phony reviews, fictitious testimonials (including photos of people you can find on the internet), images of paychecks that can be found likewise, all with total disregard for ethics, integrity, or possible repercussions should the FTC take notice of your antics.

      3. I used their "special tracking" link to apply to the CPA Bullet network, which supposedly guarantees acceptance. My application was rejected without explanation.

      4. Their customer support has been unresponsive to my emails regarding these issues.

      My advice: STAY AWAY FROM ZERO FRICTION MARKETING.
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  • Hi everyone
    I agree with DJL about Zero Friction Marketing. Everything said above is true. I was particularly appauled that they would encourage the use of fake testimonials!
    I bought the ready made campaigns and I can say that Adbrite consistently rejected the offers I tried to promote for the same reasons mentioned earlier in this thread - the offer is not truly a "free" offer etc. The types of ads they want to run just don't suit many CPA style campaigns it seems.
    Banner ads tend to get low CTR so I am not surprised that Nightwolf above has mentioned a $70 ad spend but no conversions. Yes its cheaper than adwords but at the end of the day you are still losing money... just slowly.
    The MSN campaigns on the ZFM videos show much lower cost and higher clicks than you will find if you try the exact same campaign today (I can't beleive the prices on MSN for a particular keyword have more than doubled in just a few months?)

    I contacted the support to ask for help when I had these problems with Adbrite and MSN campaigns and all I got back was the disclaimer quoted that "things can change".
    When I tried to cancel the recurring billing when I realised the product is bogus (because none of the techniques they are teaching actually work) my credit card was still rebilled and they wanted me to provide receipts as proof before they would cancel the membership!
    So I agree STAY AWAY FROM ZFM. This is one of the poorest products I have ever bought as there is obviously outright deception going on from what is shown in the videos to actual reality. The videos are very professional looking but I will agree they are repetitive and tend to waste alot of your time to communicate a simple concept that could have been said in 30 seconds rather than 5 minutes.

    On the surface it looks thorough and professional and would probably suck in alot of newbies to hang on to the product long enough to get past the refund/guarantee period but if you still happen to be within the refund period I suggest you try to get your refund before time runs out because even though the methods and videos "look" good I can guarantee you that when you come to implement the techniques you won't make any money because it just doesnt work!
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  • This product came out mid 2009. It is now Feb 2010, and I wanted to know what you thought of the product as I am going to make a buying decision.

    Thanks,
    Rob
    myaffiliatejourney.net
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    • Don't

      I don't know why some people find Saj P and his partner cool and great, but I got their latest product "Banner Ad BluePrint" and got all of their products as a bonus.

      All of their products are tedious, poor, boring (it's turning to be annoying that this guy starts each video with "hey, what's up", maybe that's why some here think he is cool, but I only find this boring to death)

      All the product are offering only very basic info...
  • ZFM has allot of general information in it, but the reason why all these expensive courses always consist of reshashed general info is because the methods they outline do work.
    Its just not as easy as the salesletter claims, or not as flashy.

    ZFM is a good course but do not expect a step by step guide teaching you how to become a millionaire.
    IMO this course wont benefit newbies to the IM game at all.

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