Is Wealthy Affiliate still working today?

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I was a WA member in 2007 until 2010. WA was good back then when Google Adwords is still not saturated and Ezine Articles is still ranked well on Google. Most of WA tutorials at that time is focusing on Adwords, Squidoo and EA. But then, by the end of 2009, Google banned lots of affiliate marketers and so it is not relevant anymore. Also, Ezine Articles are hit by panda and penguin updates making it impossible to get ranked with Ezine Articles or Squidoo. I rejoined WA in 2014 but I found out that the tutorials about SEO is not working. At least based on my experiments. However, this product is still over promoted at Ive Tried That and One More Cup Of Coffee which makes me wonder. Does it as good as it claims to be? Is the SEO techniques are really working?
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  • Profile picture of the author jherewini
    I tried WA back in the early days and to be honest that product wasnt a fit for me, and to be fair to WA it wasnt because the information wasnt relevant to what I was doing. It was me personally I just wasnt ready for what they were doing at the time.

    Fast forward to today and I am generating leads and sales conversions through WF, linkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, Google +, pinterest and instagram
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    • Profile picture of the author Marcel Guzman
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      • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
        Originally Posted by Marcel Guzman View Post

        From my personal experience, Wealthy Affiliate marketers are the worst! I don't know if they teach this one particular traffic technique, but I have seen a lot of these guys putting out false blog reviews, bashing a particular product, only to cross recruit for their own. The amount of detail they put into these reviews is unreal.
        I agree with you. For example at One More Cup Of Coffee. Even good products like Easy Paycheck Formula 2 and Google Sniper are bashed and the writer claims that Wealthy Affiliate is much better. And if you Google for keyword Wealthy Affiliate scam, Wealthy Affiliate negative reviews and Wealthy Affiliate complaints all you can find are sites created by affiliates who are promoting this product.
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      • Profile picture of the author federal06
        Originally Posted by Marcel Guzman View Post

        From my personal experience, Wealthy Affiliate marketers are the worst! I don't know if they teach this one particular traffic technique, but I have seen a lot of these guys putting out false blog reviews, bashing a particular product, only to cross recruit for their own. The amount of detail they put into these reviews is unreal.
        True, i think that the company is good, but the way that some marketers promote this product is a litle abussing, they use other product and do what they call bad reviews and then in the botton promote wealthy affiliate like the best source to make money online in the world. They call this "Honest Review" they find a bad things in a products and then do a bad reviews about that.

        Only 1 wealthy affiliate i know that is promoting quality content in he website and then recomend wealthy affiliate, but he dont abuse using other people work and talk bad, only to put their primary company like the best one in the world.

        The problem with this kind of reviews is that they dont try the product for a long terms, they only use the product to test one day and see a bad things, for example one marketer maybe put a bad words or something and then they do a bad reviews about that products. I also agreed with Azlan.MY, if you look in google for example: Wealthy Affiliate scam, you not going to see a bad review, only wealthy affiliate marketers doing a review to promote the company, this is the first time that i see in a real community talking about wealthy company and people tell the trust about this, because you never going to see a bad reviews about this company, only positive reviews about the affiliate.

        Personally to me is a litle fishy, check in this report, how all wealthy affiliate attack the opinion of that person: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Wealth...ternet-1135252

        If you talk bad about a company and other talk bad about wealthy affiliate, you need to respect that decision, but they also want to change the mindsets of the people, again this is fishy to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author .X.
    I haven't been a member in years, but if Marcel's
    claim is true then stay away.

    To be successful as an affiliate requires creating
    and delivering added value. If Marcel's claim is
    true that approach died about 5 years ago and it
    wasn't a good one to begin with.

    Also, we need to cease with this endless rumor that
    you can't use Adwords as an affiliate. The problem
    isn't affiliates - it's the mass of affiliates who
    created garbage landing pages.

    If you use a value-added approach, and deliver a
    worthwhile experience to people, Adwords welcomes
    you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Azian, It sounds like you have years of experience.

    I doubt Wealthy Affiliates is a match for your needs any longer.

    You will probably learn more right here on the Warrior Forum by asking good questions, learning who to follow, and maybe investing in coaching from a respected Warrior, than you would through WA.

    That is just my opinion, though..
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    Wealthy Affiliate marketers works!
    but only if you have a very good quality products!
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    • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
      Originally Posted by winnermarketing View Post

      Wealthy Affiliate marketers works!
      but only if you have a very good quality products!
      The problem is, the tutorials inside WA doesn't cover product creation. Or at least doesn't go in depth about product creation, sales letter and JVs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    In my opinion, Bring The Fresh is more suitable for beginners than Wealthy Affiliate. BTF is one time payment, with refund while WA is monthly with no refund. This is important for beginners. For one thing, it is because if you haven't made a dime online, you will want to save the cost at first as much as possible. But most importantly,the main WA traffic method is SEO so it will take time, perhaps years to see result. This is not 2007 where you could setup Squidoo lens today (like being told in WA) and get ranked tomorrow and finally received your first paycheck in 30 days, which covered more than the WA monthly membership. This is 2015, where Google introduces Panda, Penguin and Hummingbird. Depending on your keywords, it will take 6 months to 1 year to get ranked and then hopefully make sales (that is if your traffic converts well) and receive your $100 paycheck. Even worse the SEO tutorials in WA doesn't recommend building backlinks manually, that was at least when I checked their tutorials in 2014. They want members to rely on natural backlinks only and natural backlinks take years to obtain, unless if you promote your blog using ads, Facebook or forum. And you will need tons of them to get ranked. Just imagine, you create a blog with hundreds of posts, waiting for uncertain perhaps impossible things to happen, that is getting backlinks, ranking, traffic and finally sales. Imagine how much do you spend on WA membership before you can see the first paycheck? In my opinion, if you rely on their SEO methods alone you will spend $1000 for WA membership before you can see the result. BTF on the other hand is one time payment. Also, just like WA, it is constantly being updated and it comes with support from the owner, Kelly Felix via Skype, forum, email and even phone. Which makes it the best alternative to WA especially for beginners. The only drawback with Bring The Fresh is their upsells, which are over priced and under delivers. When I looked at Google and BTF reviews, lots of customers were complaining that they were not happy with the upsells. However, upsells are not necessary. You can stick with their main course and purchase the upsells when you already see positive results.

    Originally Posted by federal06 View Post

    I also agreed with Azlan.MY, if you look in google for example: Wealthy Affiliate scam, you not going to see a bad review, only wealthy affiliate marketers doing a review to promote the company, this is the first time that i see in a real community talking about wealthy company and people tell the trust about this, because you never going to see a bad reviews about this company, only positive reviews about the affiliate.
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    Google seems to love negative reviews these days. If you search at Google for scam product name keywords, eg "binary boom" or "secure trader", you will find one or two negative reviews about these products despite these products have thousands of affiliates who are recommending them and competing to get top ten ranking on Google. Even good products like Bring The Fresh has negative reviews when you search for keyword Bring The Fresh scam. However, the case doesn't happen to Wealthy Affiliate. If you start searching from the root keyword, Wealthy Affiliate until Wealthy Affiliate scam, Wealthy Affiliate negative reviews, Wealthy Affiliate complaints, Wealthy Affiliate ripoff you won't find any single negative review on Google. Which is skeptical to most people since WA had been on the internet for 10 years and maybe already reach over one million customers (including members who unsubscribed). I mean, WA is a business. Not matter how good it is, it will be impossible not to have unhappy customers. When I was still a member in 2009, I also promoted WA. I do made referrals, but most of them canceled their membership after one month. If it is perfect and the customers are happy, then why do they leave?

    Originally Posted by federal06 View Post

    True, i think that the company is good, but the way that some marketers promote this product is a litle abussing, they use other product and do what they call bad reviews and then in the botton promote wealthy affiliate like the best source to make money online in the world.
    WA is perhaps one of the best money making products in the world, especially for beginners, but still I think it is not complete. Members still need to purchase third party products in order to start generating steady income. When I was still a member, I found out that many of those who are successful also purchased courses like One Week Marketing Action, 4 Day Money Making Blueprint, Google Sniper, Commission Ritual and Commission Blueprint. Tutorials in these courses covered the gaps and points missing in WA tutorials.For example, I found out that Commission Ritual covered more details into physical product, market health and product launch niches plus link building techniques which were not explained in depth in WA in 2009. That's just the nature of learning internet/ aff marketing. You might need to purchase several products in order to achieve success. Product A might cover what is missing in product B and vice versa. For example, Commission Ritual covers lots of techniques about selling physical products and link building which is not covered in WA. However, it still lacks things like using Google Adwords and list building which is taught in WA. Also WA members also bought third party keyword tools like Keyword Elite, Niche Finder, Market Samurai and Long Tail Pro. Also article spinner software like The Best Spinner. Of course, I don't think members will stick with the WA hosting for so long. Majority of them would switch to third party hosting like Hostgator and Blueshost. WA provides keyword tool, hosting and article spinner but these third party tools are far superior and really needed to take advantage over your competition and become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author SMworkcafe
    I've been part of Wealthy Affiliate in 2012. It was a good opening experience for me BECAUSE I was a complete newbie. I can understand why it is regarded as scam or seen suspiciously by many people. One of the reasons would be that accusers (can be established marketers or successful website owners) already know all of the stuff mentioned within their courses and think that this is not something 'to-be-taught' or 'it's just common sense'.

    I discontinued it once I started 'getting' things. I just knew I was ready to begin solo (the constant forum/ community notifications were very distracting). Overall, it's a very newbie centric course which can give many newbies some of their first 'aha' moments. I must like to give them the credit of maintaining a very friendly and extremely helpful community. There's 24 live chat going on where you can find people sharing thoughts or asking quick questions by the rest of the community people. I'd give them a + for this.

    Yes, I do find onemorecupof-coffee.com to be VERY biast when it comes to promoting Wealthy Affiliate. One the other hand, I found I've Tried That: Online Program and Product Reviews much better (as an affiliate of Wealthy Affiliate).

    The course/ program/ membership of Wealthy Affiliate is very much alive but it is not suitable for established marketers or people who have somehow found success in making money through their website.

    ETA: I am not affiliated with it in any way!
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    • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
      Originally Posted by SMworkcafe View Post


      Yes, I do find onemorecupof-coffee.com to be VERY biast when it comes to promoting Wealthy Affiliate.
      Yes, One More Cup Of Coffee is very bias when promoting WA. Nathaniell ( the writer of One More Cup Of Coffee) slammed tons of make money products, including the legit ones and then over praised WA in his blog. Even worse, he didn't even publish negative comments from unhappy ex WAers in his blog. He published bad comments about Bring The Fresh in his BTF review, but he didn't publish any single bad comment in his Wealthy Affiliate review. He tried to make like all 100% of his referrals were happy with their WA purchase. I doubt that. For every one hundred people that he referred, there should be one or two people unhappy with their purchase. But none of the bad comments are published. I tried leaving my own opinion about WA in his blog but since my comment is negative towards WA it is not published.

      Originally Posted by Marcel Guzman View Post

      But if the review is a legit negative review with lots of dirt, people will spend much more time reading all the garbage...for whatever reason, and Google LOVES it when you linger on their sites for long periods of time.
      The negative reviews that appear on Google don't necessarily need to be a legit one. As long as it slams one product, it will surely ranked well on Google. I found that tons of binary options products reviews lately created by Ive tried That, One More Cup Of Coffee and Binary Options Watchdog are ranked well on Google. However, I doubt that the owners of these sites tried every single binary options product that they bashed. Each of these binary options product cost at least $250 and around 10 of them are released each month since January 2014 so I doubt that owners of these reviews are spending their own money to purchase and try every single of them. The reviews posted in these sites are made mainly on speculation, since these products are using fivver actors in the sales video and testimonials. All the negative reviews posted are similar - these products are scams, they use actors, outrages claims, fake screenshot, binary options is just gambling. No, I'm not defending these binary options products. I believe that 99% of these binary products are scams since I already tried a few of them and end up losing money. I'm just speaking the truth about how the big G loves these negative reviews these days despite they are not 100% credible.
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    • Profile picture of the author federal06
      Originally Posted by SMworkcafe View Post

      I've been part of Wealthy Affiliate in 2012. It was a good opening experience for me BECAUSE I was a complete newbie. I can understand why it is regarded as scam or seen suspiciously by many people. One of the reasons would be that accusers (can be established marketers or successful website owners) already know all of the stuff mentioned within their courses and think that this is not something 'to-be-taught' or 'it's just common sense'.

      I discontinued it once I started 'getting' things. I just knew I was ready to begin solo (the constant forum/ community notifications were very distracting). Overall, it's a very newbie centric course which can give many newbies some of their first 'aha' moments. I must like to give them the credit of maintaining a very friendly and extremely helpful community. There's 24 live chat going on where you can find people sharing thoughts or asking quick questions by the rest of the community people. I'd give them a + for this.

      Yes, I do find onemorecupof-coffee.com to be VERY biast when it comes to promoting Wealthy Affiliate. One the other hand, I found I've Tried That: Online Program and Product Reviews much better (as an affiliate of Wealthy Affiliate).

      The course/ program/ membership of Wealthy Affiliate is very much alive but it is not suitable for established marketers or people who have somehow found success in making money through their website, again i dont think that the system is bad, is the way that some marketer are promoting this, is just abbusing

      ETA: I am not affiliated with it in any way!
      Great response, you have a good mindset

      The problem is not the bad reviews, because you can do whathever you want with your life, the problem is that they choose to do bad reviews only to put Wealthy affiliate like the god of the internet and is not true, they are a lot of training that are good, you can not use other people work and talk bad, to make money with your system, that is not good ethic.

      I challenge all Wealthy affiiate that do a review about they system putting the bad and the good, and tell the trust about other people that also dont have success using wealthy, if they are so honest
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    I registered again as a free WA member using my newly created Gmail account and I wasn't impress at all. The entire purpose for free membership is to encourage new members to upgrade membership to premium member. After browsing the free members area, I can understand why it is free. The tutorials provided in the free membership are just basic and can be found for free using Google, such as site creation with WordPress, keyword research and basic on page SEO such as using All-In-One SEO, creating privacy policy etc. The rest, such as keyword tool, hosting, social media marketing and more powerful SEO techniques that should give you ranking and money are only available for premium members.

    Also what really annoys me is the review at One More Cup Of Coffee bashed the latest product from Dan Brock, Deadbeat Super Affiliate Reloaded.
    http://onemorecupof-coffee.com/deadb...eloaded-review
    According to the writer of One More Cup Of Coffee" I think it (Deadbeat Super Affiliate method) will produce minimal results, and if it does actually make money, I think it will be short lived.". First of all, I purchased the first version of DSA and the tactics work for me for years. Secondly, assuming that DSA method could last for just about one year or something, but hey, at least it will make your site ranked faster, maybe in a few days, make money faster and cover up the entire course itself. Compared to Wealthy Affiliate where you are taught to build an authority website which could take years to produce result and finally cover the entire year of WA membership.
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  • Profile picture of the author AzlanR2
    If you're new to SEO and IM, of course WA can help since they taught you step-by-step, hand-by-hand from setting up Wordpresss site, to SEO plugin, content and site promotion. However, if you already ranked on Google for five keywords or more, you can learn more from this thread: Search Engine Optimization

    Also find all posts by nettiapina (View Profile: nettiapina) and Mike Friedman (View Profile: MikeFriedman)
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    Update: When reading one comment at onemorecupof-coffee, I found out that the owner also bashed Warrior Forum by saying that it isn't relevant to internet marketing anymore. And then, those who read his blog and already a WA member don't need WF. Is The Warrior Forum Relevant In Today's Internet Marketing World?

    Personally, I think that is ridiculous and perhaps laughable. I mean, of course that is his blog and he can trash talking WF but I don't think he should force it to his readers as well. Just because he doesn't like WF, it doesn't mean others don't like it too isn't it? I was also a member of WA, but I still think that there are tons more things that I can learn here in WF, for free, compared to WA.

    Also, today I found a real review from WAer who said that 90% new WAers won't make any money from Wealthy Affiliate. That article contains aff link so I cannot post the link here, but in case you want to read it, you can search at G for keyword "The problem with Wealthy Affiliate" and his post is ranked #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomekBN
    I have found that most of the content on wealthy affiliate is available for free online. In fact if you google for starting a blog you'll get more update info.

    Here's what my biggest dislike of Wealthy Affiliate is. You use WordPress for building a blog. For NEWBIES they help you install a wordpress blog on their interface / website .... Then wealthy affiliate advertises that if you are a premium member they will unlock the ability to install plugins on your site.

    But if you have your own domain, and hosting you can install wordpress for free and install all the plugins you want for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
      Originally Posted by TomekBN View Post

      I have found that most of the content on wealthy affiliate is available for free online. In fact if you google for starting a blog you'll get more update info.

      Here's what my biggest dislike of Wealthy Affiliate is. You use WordPress for building a blog. For NEWBIES they help you install a wordpress blog on their interface / website .... Then wealthy affiliate advertises that if you are a premium member they will unlock the ability to install plugins on your site.

      But if you have your own domain, and hosting you can install wordpress for free and install all the plugins you want for free.
      Yes, I agree with you. When I rejoined WA in 2013 -2014 some of their SEO techniques taught in the tutorial are:
      - article submission.
      - social media
      I don't think these methods will work anymore. I don't know if they change the tutorial after that.

      Also, lots of WA review sites out there seems not to be honest. (despite those reviews are bashing other products and claim that they are honest). They should put warning label like
      - warning: Wealthy Affiliate won't work for you in one month or two. It is advisable that you purchase the yearly membership.
      - WA Bootcamp is a newbie trap. Don't promote WA as the first thing you do in affiliate marketing. Making money promoting WA is one of the hardest things to do if you want to make money online.
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        • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
          Originally Posted by dumbfox View Post

          My apologies ressurecting an old thread, but can anyone kindly recommend a program for a starter?
          I was looking at MOZ's tutorial for SEO and wondering if a combination of that and WA will be suffient to generate a nice income after one year or so. I also looked at Bring The Fresh, but as advised on another thread, it seems the method (PBN) is not sustainable long term.

          Any program(s) that preaches whitehat tecniques that are supposed to survive google updates will be highly appreciated.
          Cheers.
          Hi, I spoke from experience here. If you want to survive Google updates and at the same time make steady income online, then start by having your own product. Avoid make money online niches. Once you have your own products, you will have more ideas to get more traffic from:
          - Your own affiliate/JV partners.
          - social media
          - forums
          - Facebook/G Ads. You will get more ROI with ads once you have your own product.
          - SEO
          - Most importantly, your own list of buyers.

          Also, from what you've stated, you read tutorials at moz, but that will be just a waste of time, at least at your level. Yes, I do made $60K per year with SEO in my best year and the last year alone I've made $30K per year, but still affiliate marketing with SEO is just not worth it. Plus, the cost will keep increasing from time to another. You need to change your strategies from time to another in order to achieve your financial freedom. Most launch jackers that I knew from my time since 2009 already quit affiliate marketing and then started his own SEO company, instead of selling other's products via his affiliate link.

          Start by finding a JV who live near your area and then create your own products. Go to local meetup section of this forum. Here's the link:
          Local Meetups, Mastermind Groups and Warrior Events
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  • Profile picture of the author gluckspilz
    WA is probably one of the lamest program (In My Opinion).

    It's like the ONLY method for their affiliates to make money is by bashing other companies, commenting on each other's site to help with ranking and recommending WA as the "BEST PROGRAM".

    I've asked a few of these so called "Scam Busters" if they are making money any other way and the answer to that is always like "Yes, we have members doing blah blah blah".

    Nice way to not answer the question...

    I know it seem like I'm against WA but the truth is I don't think their affiliates know any better than to do negative reviews to siphon traffic over to their WA affiliate link.

    Just do a quick search on ANY bizop or IM product out there and there is a high chance some WA affiliate is ranking with a review article WITHOUT actually owning the product.

    Summary:

    Do you want to know how to make money unethically, if the answer is yes. Maybe WA if for you.

    If you want to be a true marketer and actually know how to drive traffic etc etc then WA is NOT for you.

    Just my 2 cent.
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    • Profile picture of the author TenaciousGrease
      Originally Posted by gluckspilz View Post

      WA is probably one of the lamest program (In My Opinion).

      It's like the ONLY method for their affiliates to make money is by bashing other companies, commenting on each other's site to help with ranking and recommending WA as the "BEST PROGRAM".

      I've asked a few of these so called "Scam Busters" if they are making money any other way and the answer to that is always like "Yes, we have members doing blah blah blah".

      Nice way to not answer the question...

      I know it seem like I'm against WA but the truth is I don't think their affiliates know any better than to do negative reviews to siphon traffic over to their WA affiliate link.

      Just do a quick search on ANY bizop or IM product out there and there is a high chance some WA affiliate is ranking with a review article WITHOUT actually owning the product.

      Summary:

      Do you want to know how to make money unethically, if the answer is yes. Maybe WA if for you.

      If you want to be a true marketer and actually know how to drive traffic etc etc then WA is NOT for you.

      Just my 2 cent.
      Yeah they're full of sh*t, and you're 100% Right.

      "This program is horrible and we don't recommend it, sign up for my #1 Recommended Program here for free!"
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  • Profile picture of the author chyan007
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    yes correct ,just search on google for any product ,There will be affiliate of WA he will be seen telling that

    Product xyz is not good ,here is my no 1 recommendation and i know it will be wealthy affiliate ,I have seen this atleast 1000 times in the past and the affiliate actually reviewing the product xyz has not even tried it
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  • Profile picture of the author TenaciousGrease
    I know this is an old post, so forgive me for digging it up. I was thinking about signing up for Wealthy Affiliate, but my friend shared this review with me & I wanted to make sure others hopefully saw it before joining WA.

    Wealthy Affiliate Review; The Biggest Scam of the Year?
    (not my site).

    Anyways - as somebody above said - they tend to 'own' google and flood it with positive reviews about their own program, glad to see somebody that's honest about their program
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  • Profile picture of the author brianapatt
    Wealthy Affiliate = the most unethical in a world full of terrible ethics
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I've never been a member of Wealthy Affiliate so I can't answer that question. I like using a training system called My Lead System Pro because they teach their members HOW to provide value first so you can build an audience,engage with them,then sell them stuff. It's a simple formula that works like gangbusters!
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  • Profile picture of the author jw22777
    Yup. Wealthy Affiliate still works. I've had an account with them for going on 3 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Nunez
    I found Wealthy Affiliate to be pretty basic, but the community is supportive. The monthly fee adds up quickly, too. I also don't like how their main method of marketing seems to be to get their affiliates to write reviews trashing other products only to redirect people to their "#1 product" which is, of course, WA.
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