Was lucky to see this project form as an idea, to launch date today.

It's well worth it and one of the best plug and play systems I've ever used.

Those are two of the hardest working people in this business and deserve all the praise and kudos. So I'll give them some - Way to go guys!

By anyone's standards, those intro. videos are hypey. They take "it requires no work" to kind of ridiculous levels.

System looks cool, though, and the Plug 'n Play blog idea is one of the best I've seen - that alone is worth something significant.

On the flipside - I recall Cindye concurring they will initially only be working with MMO products - a huge downer to me.

It also was quite annoying to me that they heavily edited blog comments - folks with serious questions included. I don't like that, but that's just me.

I'd say the jury's out, but I can clearly see some value.

Kent

Does it come with any upsell or OTO? if yes what are the cost?

I bought it only yesterday, so there's not much to review yet.

There is an upsell/OTO, at least if you start out with the full-price $47 package. It's $97. For that you get one extra affiliate product package per month, the ability to sort your preferences as to the type of product you will receive (still almost entirely make money online) since not every member gets exactly the same ones, a number of free points to various traffic systems, and PLR to the OTO page they use.

The layout inside is easy to navigate. The emails/blog posts/articles they provide that you can use to promote your links are well written and appropriate for the medium, if sometimes lacking a bit of pizzazz. They do let you insert tracking codes into your links/banners as well so you can figure out where your traffic came from.

The squeeze pages are slick. I signed up for the reports for all of the offers I have available using another email address and they were definitely appropriate for giving me some value and moving me along the sales funnel. I'll be interested to see what backend emails come up. There's a lot of clickbank pirate advertising going along with the rest of it, but it looks like if someone clicks on that a commission still goes to my account.

I've not really done affiliate marketing before and I've always approached it mentally from the idea of you're talking about something else and you find a product that audience would like and put it in context for them. This is decidedly the other way around, unless you already have a list/lens/blog on making money online.

I'm going to give it a solid try. It's self-contained enough to remove some of my stress but gives me enough flexibility that I feel like I can add value through how I choose to promote the products.

You are to be congratulated on figuring things out before paying for this. Sounds like a good program and idea but absolutely does not live up to the claims. Might as well flush your money down the toilet and save yourself a lot of wasted time and effort!

No your not alone. Their support is flooded with What Do I Do Now questions? I've had it for a month and still scratching my head even after going to the webinars. They say just get people to the sites. What sites? What are the URL's to the sites. Is it just my site or all the members sites? Promote to where? I guess it would be great if you had a list to bring to your Blog.
Someone out there just give us a simple breakdown on what to do...please....It's got to be staring us right in the face, but what is it???

@ bethrobinson

Thanks for your input Beth.

I decided not to run with this mainly because it's not flexible enough for me. The emails being sent out to the list have 3 links in them, 2 straight links for CB Pirate themselves and one obvious affiliate link which means the member is losing prospects. As it stands, any prospects on the members list have a 2 in 3 chance of going directly to CB Pirate and the member loses out on a commission.

Looking at it from the point of view of someone who already has a list the program may be worth promoting for the commission.

From what I can see, like any other program, you still have to work on getting targeted traffic so, after the time and effort spent in gaining prospects, I don't see the point in sending them to CB Pirate when you could be promoting your own content without paying a monthly membership fee.

Certainly the follow ups and marketing system, (which is excellent), is in place for newcomers who just have to learn to promote and do nothing else but it's my feeling that the money would be better spent in building their own list which they have full control over.

One of the selling points for CB Pirate is "you don't have to pay for hosting, autoresponders, link cloakers, writers etc.". My thinking is that you really should be paying for hosting, autoresponders and so on.

Like I say, for me it's not flexible enough but maybe I'm just a control freak and I guess, if the system makes more than the monthly fee then it may be considered a winner except I can't get passed what I consider to be giving my hard earned prospects away, and that is not good marketing.

The above is not being critical of CB Pirate as there has been a lot of good work gone into the package and it would definitely be of value to someone starting out to see a full promo system in operation and they also give pointers on how to get traffic.

Let me know if I made any errors in my comments on CB Pirate.

Ade

I already purchased and tried this out and experimented with promoting ppc ads and through free ads. With their supposed auto followup expected to see some results - certainly within a few days. This is just another program that looks good but doesn't work! Am not a "newbie" and initially found what they were claiming to be as close to auto program as you could get. They even addressed the question as to what if too many people were promoting the same products, etc. Unfortunately, this has also turned out to be one of those where the 5 products you are given to promote a free report are essentially promoting this product. That is usually a bad sign but you won't know it until you get the 5 products to promote. It is really too bad because the idea is a good one if they had only actually set up squeeze pages, auto responder, etc. for a wide variety of products worth promoting. Don't waste your time or money on this!

I already purchased and tried this out both through Adwords and through free ads. With their supposed auto followup expected to see some results - certainly within a few days. This is just another program that looks good but doesn't work! Am not a "newbie" and initially found what they were claiming to be as close to auto program as you could get. They even addressed the question as to what if too many people were promoting the same products, etc. Unfortunately, this has also turned out to be one of those where the 5 products you are given to promote a free report are essentially promoting this product. it is really too bad because the idea is a good one if they had only actually set up squeeze pages, auto responder, etc. for a wide variety of products worth promoting.

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Hey Jan,

I'm looking at this product right now and it seems useful from an outsourcing P.O.V. all I have to do is promote. What I am hearing though is that the 5 products are not actually 5 separate niche clickbank products, but generic ebooks that point back to CB Pirate... is that true?

-Anthony

thank you kari

Thanks for the heads-up!

And when I wanted the emails to stop, I unsubscribed. Try it

Where's my affiliate link?

I'm confused, Maryleena. What do you mean by CB Minisites? I can find the squeeze pages elsewhere?

I've been working with Clickbank Pirate for the last 25 days and I've decided to cancel my membership, primarily due to it not fitting within my personal business goals.

I sent traffic and collected views of the squeeze pages via traffic exchanges (6000), safe lists(70), a couple articles(20), and assorted blog posts(70) and received no conversions. I definitely could have done more, but this is where I ended up.

I looked at the sales funnel - squeeze page to free reports to emails to product - for a couple products in detail. This customer-following backend is really the whole point to the membership and I found it to be of reasonable quality and to follow a logical path.

I would have unsubscribed to the email series as being too much sell and not enough info (even though there's a new free report every four to five emails) but I am not exactly the target market either. I seriously prefer low-hype, which is part of the reason that I'm leaving.

The provided promotional materials are a good start. I thought some were from an odd angle but some were very good. The quality varied a little from package to package.

The free blog was okay - you can see more details at Taking Action with Clickbank Pirate if it stays up. I'm actually asking for a refund so it will likely be deleted. If I had conversions and just didn't want to continue I would only cancel and they would keep following up on my previous sign-ups for me (as I understand it.)

The bonus traffic training at Traffic Generation 101 had the flavor of a mish-mash of plr products gone SQUISH. But it was in a neat unlocking each module as you go type of set up and I really enjoyed the bonus interviews. The audio seminars that have been being posted as part of the main membership were well done and definitely worth listening to for more traffic training as it relates to the program.

Conclusion -

If content creation or email follow-up frustrates you then give this one a try. You'll likely still have to do some personalizing, but it could be better than what you're working with now.

If you already sell into the make money online niche then this may be worth it the products that aren't directly in your niche, but as sidelines that you wouldn't otherwise support.

As a newbie taking first actions I still believe it simplifies things in a good way and can be worth doing.

For me, it simplified enough that I realized I wanted to do something else! I want more control and don't want to take the time to figure out how to drive traffic to these sites if it's not easy. I'd rather use that time to build up my own more authoritative site. I do appreciate this program for helping give me the kick in the butt I needed to start taking action and hope I can keep up my momentum.

I wish making money, real money, could be a hobby too!
Well I do to twitter and facebook and that works quite well but I get what you are driving at.

I was hoping to hear from someone who tried and has earned from it, even a cheerleader :p

Agreed... I think I received some email promo to join CB Pirate from my own link lol... I know the target is for my leads.

I purchased CBPirate back when it first launched, but I quickly decided it wasn't for me when I realized that any list I would be building would be for the company and not for my own use.

This goes against everything I know about Internet Marketing, which is to always concentrate on building your own list. Therefore, I was quite surprised to see that CBPirate teaches just the opposite.

Yes, this is an EASY plug and play system, and the Lead Capture Pages are fantastic. I even like the idea of not having to write my own followup emails, since they take care of that as well as back-end selling, but still I just can't justify building a list for the company and not even having access to it at all.

And, if that wasn't bad enough, in the followup emails send out to all who fill out your Lead Capture Page, the signature is that of the owners of CB Pirate, so there is no branding here either.

Now, to add icing on the cake, I cannot even seem to get a refund for this program. I can't blame CBPirate for this as it seems to be a problem with Clickbank, but nonetheless, it is very annoying.

The problem is that this is a Monthly Membership site, and I ended up paying the first monthly installment before I asked for a refund, so Clickbank refunded my first installment, but not my original purchase, despite going back and forth about 10 times now. I keep explaining the problem and they keep replying that they have refunded my account.

I will think twice about joining another monthly fee program through Clickbank as it is too much of a pain to cancel or get a refund.

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It didnt work out for me, but then again, it might have worked for others. Their money back policy is pretty good, which is a plus, so you could go ahead and give it a shot.

The concept of Clickbank Pirate is good. The materials offered to use for your promotional activities are adequate. If you're a newbie, this would be a good place to get your feet wet without losing your shirt. I've been using it with some success, although nothing to write home about. I see two main problems with it:

1. As others have mentioned, the list you're working so hard to build is not your own. You have no access to it. They use it to continually sell other Clickbank products on your behalf, but should you ever leave Clickbank Pirate, you lose the entire list.

2. It seems to me they have saturated the market for the products they have chosen to promote. Yes, everyone gets different products. However, there are only about 20 - 25 products altogether and everyone now has five, if they started back in August with the minimum 2 (you get a new one every month). Therefore, we all share our products with many, many other CP users, all using the exact same promotional materials.

I'm still not sure if I'll stay in CP for the long term. Right now I'm at least breaking even. If that doesn't improve by the end of this year, I'll probably quit.

I am guessing thats your little blog post ? if so here is some useful stuff for you that may help.

When people sign up they should try and use a call to action as the user name, as this user name is shown in the URLs emailed out, for example

/download
/view

and so on it looks better than a normal domestic name, anyway regardless of that there is no doubt its great for newbies, but as above with the post by kbrockm you do not have access to your own list.

As a marketer the owner is doing great guns as people are signing up and paying to build his list in a sense, what a great deal that is i am sure.

I had 2 accounts and have canceled one due to building a list for another person did not seem a good long term prospect.

The remaining one i have i deciding to drop or keep ? but if i keep it i will only now use my own opt in page / form and just back fill the stuff needed with the pirate info supplied, at least this way i get to keep 100% of the list, and in effect then pay a few bucks a month to grab the graphics, reports and blogs and articles.

Even with that its really a tough call to even bother with that part, I will give it another month before making a call on that.

any new comments, earnings with Clickbank Pirate ?

Hi Mario,

Move on - don't build other people list. Do your own thing; otherwise another year of yours will pass by without any real results of YOUR own.

Cheers
Roy