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Sometimes no one really knows all the answers to other peoples problems. "Well that's life" (since you cropped it out the reply) was a statement that sometimes in life things happen that we can't control, or sometimes there are things that go on that we are not aware of that create these issues. NOT that I don't care, which you seem to insinuate.

This entire scope of conversation is based on your coming in late, and not understanding the dynamics - to which I had no desire - nor obligation - to explain. This is just a forum.

Another misunderstanding (and assumption) on your part. From your very first post:

Seriously, you took the complaints at face value, and then declared you still stand behind the person? You need to drastically raise the standards that need to be met for someone to earn your endorsement.

I can't comment on whether the complaints are true, but you took them at face value, and then said you still stick by the person who, if they are true, committed two blatant criminal ripoffs against the same person.

Why should anyone take you up on reaching out to a vendor who screwed them and then hid, that you say you still stand by, having already wasted too much time on that vendor?

You make serious assumptions about my motivations as if you were sitting here in my office while I posted. I took her initial (and subsequent to a degree) posts "at face value" because at the time I posted them I only had her (the customers) side. While I had no reason to doubt her sincerity I wanted to hear from Liz before I made any judgment. Yes, because she is my friend. For 10 years. And this behavior is uncharacteristic for her, so I wanted to talk to her first before I jumped on the "she ripped me off" band wagon.

You do that for your friends, right? I would hope so.

So my "offense" was your assumption of my motivation to be involved, or letting my "friend" off the hook simply because she is my friend. NOT because you "dared chime in" about her.

Understand now?

Liz is a big girl and can take care of herself. In the meantime, if I see something like this about ANY of my friends, I will usually try to figure out what the issue is and try to resolve it. THAT is my motivation.

I won't comment on the rest of this because honestly, it's irrelevant to the rest of the conversation.

Just keep in mind in the future that when you read these threads, 99% of the time there is WAY more to it than what you read. In the case of Liz, I stand by the fact that she in no way intended to "rip off" anyone. There were circumstances in her life that I will NOT expand upon in a public forum that indeed contributed to this unfortunate situation. As I understand it (but have NOT confirmed) she privately reached out to the customer.

And before you say it, I also "get" that a customer doesn't want to hear about personal issues when they pay for something. I also happen to buy an awful lot of things, so I am a customer too. But like I said, sometimes things just happen. We can choose to understand, or we can choose to write it off, or we can choose to think the person a thief. That's up to each of us individually. This market is full of rip-off artists and I get that. If I told you the story of the guy that took me for $17,000 it would make your hair stand up. But I STILL choose to give people the benefit of the doubt in most situations. ESPECIALLY when I know them personally. Because THAT is part of my character.

Finally, just because people don't explain things to your standards doesn't mean they don't care, doesn't mean they condone bad behavior, or anything else. It simply means (in my case anyway) that I don't feel the need or desire to explain my every action or inaction. Usually because it's either private, or just too complicated to really explain.

If you felt at all insulted by my personal observations to your posts, I apologize. I simply don't care for what I read as a personal "attack" (for lack of a better word) on MY character. Not my friends character.