What's this "coup de twitter" thing all about?

Do you have a link to the site or something?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

surprise surprise - the url is Coup De Twitter - Join The Twinja Army

i have watched and i cannot believe i thought that i was the only perosn that got frustrated at the video with no controls. It puts off buyers if i belive becasue no one would like to watch 35 minutes of a promotion of a productt without having the abilty to fast forward. so there you go.

PS:the product is another twitter money making thing, something about one dollar for every follower and making it as list.

Twinja? lol. I'd rather be a twjedi w/ a tweetsaber.

Anyone who makes a 35 minute marketing video can't possibly know how to make $$ online.

I've seen the mail Andy..

Some random dude telling me he "joined the army".. from what I can gather, he means the "twitter army"..

Typical crap launch nonsense. <- notice I said crap launch, not all launches are crap, we know that.

Couldn't be bothered watching the video... I started it, but then reading the bit down the side led me to understand that I had to wait "patiently" for the skip the annoying bit link to appear, before I could get down to business.

Someone had an epic brain-fade when constructing that page...

I am absolutely fanatical about the launch process. I love watching how Frank does it, the stomper guys was surreal.. I just love the process... but this coupdetwatter thing was/is boring and I only endured ten maybe twenty seconds.

I'll buy a product if I like the process, without even needing the product...

The product could be killer, I really wouldn't know. Although, I can't imagine there is too much to learn about making money on Twitter... I do it and I'm not even trying

Peace

Jay

Couldn't stomach more then a few minutes myself...static like you wouldn't believe (and pure cheese).....talking about his (harrisfellman on twitter) "mid six figures" of profit for EACH of the last few years...and he invented everything on the internet...blah blah blah.... bottom line is "twitter" is an awsome traffic generator....use the tool....make trillions.... oh yeah...and the newest "introduced" metric is $1 /month/follower on twitter...

The reality is, ALL who have "viewable" metrics (ie. youtube vids which show a breakdown of where views are coming from), show abysmal follow through from twitter.

One example (not isolated either) is an individual who has 45K followers, tweeted a link (to a youtube video) on Aug 5, and has a total of 62 views (1/100th of 1 percent of total followers) coming from twitter.com (this is as of todays date). Now this individual claims to be a "guru", and quotes their 45K followers to promote a $2,500 coaching program they sell. Didn't even get click through from their supposed 300 students.

Ok, thanks for that.

I actually have over xxxk followers across all my twitter accounts and I must be doing something wrong since I don't get anywhere near $1 per follower (and I don't just follow any people, these are targeted followers).

I do find it pretty easy to get followers and make money, but that's due to the shear numbers I have now, but I'm not even doing anything special, just being efficient in what I do.

I don't know Harris so I have no frame of reference for his stuff, but I'm sure he's probably making money if he's positioning himself as a Twitter guru and selling his expertise and tools, and there are a few people promoting this, so they must at least have some reason to think he's genuine.

It looks like he's asking for $199 to access his advice and tools, so I guess he needs to give a lot of information for most people to make that decision.

I just think even having controls on that video would help a lot of people and increase his conversion rate.

Thanks anyway for the info.

Andy

I can't stand "video" with no controls for five minutes, what to say about 35. This guy got this very wrong and I hope more marketers get awake for this.

The Twastard!!!

Well as Desi Arnaz would say at this point, "Relax, calm down, take a tizzy!" Geez, guys and gals, you're being kinda hard on Harris Fellman, without even knowing the guy!

First of all, I know Harris pretty well. I took a coaching class from him a couple of years back and I learned a lot from him. I've spoken with him at many seminars and he's one of the good guys. He has my utmost respect.

He is simply a creative genius period, end stop. That might offend some people, but you can't please everybody! I own all of his products and I've NEVER been disappointed. Harris is a guy who quite simply, always, always, overdelivers.

I recently wrote a blog post explaining just what's in his course. Here it is:

Ready to join the coup...the Coup de Twitter, that is! Yep, that crazy character and brilliant marketer, Harris Fellman has done it once again with his latest product!

Aside from his ability to entertain, Harris is famous for his ability to make other famous marketers spill their guts and reveal their secrets. Well, when he took a survey at Frank Kern's seminar, and asked these famous marketers what they thought was the easiest way to build a list, most of them said, "Twitter!" Harris was stunned. Although this "sameness of answers" may have ruined his interview
idea, it struck a chord!

Not one to sit around and waste a golden opportunity like this, Harris tried some of the Twitter strategies when he got home and was amazed at how quickly his followers on Twitter increased!

Well you can listen to his whole story about how he developed his latest product , Coup de Twitter, and what it includes, right here.

But I'll give you a quick summary. Basically, Coup de Twitter teaches you how to get thousands of followers on Twitter, how to build relationships with those followers and how to make money from them.

This course is absolutely packed with info like:

* how to get tons of followers in the least amount of time without getting your account suspended
* the best way to leverage your connections
* 7 ways to make money with Twitter
* the right ratio of "make money" tweets to "build a relationship " tweets
* all the different kinds of perks you can get when you have a lot of followers
* hundreds of quotes that you can send out to your followers. Sending quotes is a great way to connect with people. We all love quotes from famous people.
(Geez, Harris must have spent weeks finding all those quotes and putting them in Twitter speak!)

Basically, you are going to learn everything you need to know about getting followers, building a relationship with them and making money from those followers.

All I can say is, Coup de Twitter is a must have if you want to use Twitter for more that tweeting your friends.

My opinion for what it's worth. This is a great product. Want to see some pics of Harris' other personnas, then visit my blog. Have a great night.

Dorothea

Hey Dorethea,

Thanks for that.

This isn't about Harris, but the product and more specifically the problem getting the information about it with only that huge video get to it.

I'm sure he's a great guy.

Since there's no secret to how many followers you can get and how to get them (twitter give clear guidelines on the numbers, limits, ratios and timescales etc.) and Twitter are clamping down on using automated systems and particularly people following and unfollowing at maximum limits, I was surprised that the only way to find out about this was to sit through a 35 minute video (not likely) or come here and someone who did.

I know there are a few people around proclaiming themselves to be Twitter gurus and selling anything they think people will buy, so I was surprised that after getting email promos about this to end up on a page that told me nothing about the product.

I took a quick look at Harris's twitter profile and it only has a couple of thousand followers, which was also surprising for someone selling a product about getting and monetizing lots of followers. I'm sure he must have other accounts with proper follower numbers to be selling something like this, so that doesn't bother me, just the lack of detail for the product.

There are tons of 'get more twitter followers' and 'make $XXXX in xx days on twitter' products around, so it seems that you wouldn't make it so hard to get to one.

Since I have tools for this and many accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers myself, people keep asking me to create a product like this, but since everything people need is available for free and there are quite a few tools for auto-following etc and managing accounts, I still haven't done it. To be honest it still surprises me that there are people who want someone else to tell them how to use Twitter (but that's another story).

So, I'm sure he's a good guy and he probably has a customer base who will want this stuff from him.

If you're in contact with him, it would be interesting to hear why he left the controls off that video - it definitely stopped a few people from buying. (they've told me and it was the case for me too)

Andy

Hi Andy,
Actually, you can ask him yourself on twitter @harrisfellman...lol...

And I'm sure he'll answer you...he's that kind of guy!

But honestly Andy, why DON't you make a product? I'm sure you have a lot to offer people if you're into Twitter! I wish I had more time for it myself. Although after seeing Harris's product, I'm starting to rethink my priorities!

To AndyHenry: Here's what CoupDeTwitter is about...
1) How to Get Targeted Followers
(5000 in 30 Days Guaranteed)
2) How to Build Relationships
3) How to Strengthen those Relationships
and get people interacting, clicking,
and ReTweeting.
4) How to make money *after* you've done
numbers 1, 2, & 3.

As for the 'not spending 35 minutes' and no controls issue. I'll cover why I went with this marketing approach below. I'm even going to share some conversion statistics with you guys.

But let's just say, I don't *want* you skimming my video. And your post here makes the point perfectly:

You just called me "someone", which means you don't know me. Part of that video introduces you to who I am and what I've done.

The truth is, I'm as surprised as you all are that these 35 minute "no controls" videos convert better than standard sales letters. But they do.

To majidmaskat: Thanks for watching as much of the video as you did. I would've hoped you would have gotten from the video that I'm at least teaching the "RIGHT WAY" to do Twitter Marketing. I'll have to work on that for the future.

To trishworks4u: I like "Twedi" - These are not the Tweets you're looking for. Anyway, your assumption that I can't possibly know how to make marketing online because I'm using the 35 minute marketing video is quite, um, what's a nice word here for "uninformed".

Please google me to find out if I know how to make money online or not. I don't want to risk getting this post deleted by putting my other products up. But I've been making a very nice living for quite a number of years.

As for the sales video:
I'm following a proven formula that a friend of mine created. I've done these videos before & they convert. We've tested them against other forms of sales letter & they convert better. And even if they didn't convert - *hello* - you've gotta test stuff to find out what works and what doesn't.

Currently, affiliate traffic is converting at about $2-4 per click. Not too bad compared to most stuff right now.

Also, I'm testing an opt-in box instead of a straight-to-order-form' link like others that have used this formula in the past.

That box comes up at the 25 minute mark. I'm getting a 15.8% opt-in rate. I went ahead and did a quick screen capture for ya here:

http://profitablewebhosting.com/imag...t-In_Proof.jpg

If you would've asked me a year ago "do you think a 35 minute sales video will keep people's attention?", I would have said "no effing way" (in fact I did). But just that 15% opt-in rate alone should be proof enough that people actually DO watch all the way through.

To JayXtreme: didn't do a launch this time. Just the sales video & it's converting quite well. I'm pretty fanatical about the launch process myself. I've done a number of them myself and have even helped a few behind the scenes. ;-) I wanted to do something different this time & build for longetivity instead of a one time shot.

CoupDeTwitter, thus far, has been just promoted to my internal list & then a few affilates asked if they could promote. Then, once I saw that it was converting nicely, I asked my JV list if they could promote it as well. It has not been a major push and certainly not a launch.

Just popped up a sales video to see how she would do. ;-)

I have a number of happy customers already. I'll start adding in Testimonials to the sales video as soon as I get the chance. Honestly, it's my best info product yet. I'm very proud of the content so far.

Again, building on the longevity concept here; Right now, the video is a 'winner' (it's converting). I plan on having a number of different front ends that lead into it & eventually I'll probably put out some different sales processes (not just the 'video with no controls').

To AndyHenry: re "Disrespecting your time" Sorry you feel that way. I actually do mix in a bit of decent content in the sales video & like I said before - you don't know me & I'd like people to get to know who I am.

Kinda funny to have this reply too. My 35 minute video has disrespected your time - but if someone does a full launch, they put out 3 or 4 videos over the course of a couple weeks - each one usually 30-60 minutes each.

And if 'making money is easy' for you... Then that's cool. Keep in mind that it's *NOT EASY* for everyone. There's people at all stages of the game.

To Barbling: I have quite a number of successful products out there right now. My best launch to date was $338,000 in a week. I think I've earned the title "Sensei" in the online marketing circles. I was just being cute with the title to go along with the "Coup de Twitter" concept though. You don't have to call me Sensei if you don't want to.

To thezone: I've actually been around the internet for quite some time (even longer than mentioned in the video) but everyone knows that Al Gore invented the internet. I would never lay stake to that claim.

Also, I'd like to be really clear here. I never said that I'm earning $1 per follower in Twitter. I said that the fact that someone *else* was doing that opened my eyes to the possibility. I make no income claims in that video actually.

I'm actually getting better response rates from Twitter than I get via my email list that's twice the size by the way. But clicks aren't everything. Converting that to cash is part of the trick. There are definitely wrong ways to approach this.

To AndyHenry again: Awesome that you're making money on Twitter. *I* am not getting $1 per follower yet. Neither is my wife or friends that I originally turned on to this. It takes some extra lovin' to get up there & extra lovin' takes work (and who knows, maybe it's not possible anymore - Twitter is different today than it was 6 months ago).

Here's the key: Give value to the Twitterverse & it will eventually pay you for it.

As for controls on the video...

We haven't tested *this exact video* yet. But on other tests in the past ... NO CONTROLS converts better than giving controls. It seems that allowing prospects to skim around is not a good thing.

To cesarsan: I can't stand 'em either. Then again, I can't stand long form sales letters even more. Something I learned a long time ago though: I am not my prospect.

To ExRat: perhaps we're filtering people out / either way, this type of sales video has consistently proven to convert.

But ya know what everyone - last time I checked, I'm allowed to put another sales process up if I want to to attract people that don't like the sales video. ;-)

To Dorothea: thanks for getting my back & letting me know about this post. You're a real sweetheart. I hope internet marketing is getting closer to providing you the retirement income you set out to create by the way.

To Carol Hansen: DARN IT! Now I can't bad mouth anyone in here. Grrr. Seriously, thanks for the kind words. Looking forward to your feedback on Section 7 when I release it later this week (thanks again for your patience).

Long post. Thanks to everyone who read it. I figured I would respond to everyone in the same post instead of a bunch of little replies. Let me know if you've got any questions about CoupDeTwitter or any of my other products.

Twitter is actually the best way to reach me.

Peace,
Harris Fellman
Harris Fellman (harrisfellman) on Twitter

p.s. @Harris... thanks for dropping by to put your point across...

Peace

Jay

@Harris - Thanks for dropping by and responding, it seemed that you're experienced enough to be doing things the way you do for a reason, so thanks for confirming it.

Maybe I'm behind the times but I've always found that catering for skimmers in my copy has resulted in higher conversions, so I am surprised to hear that with video you're finding the opposite - maybe I'll give it a go myself

I'm sure you'll be able to get people to achieve their desired results, afterall 5000 followers a month is the absolute minimum that anyone can get just by following as many people as they can and watching them follow back. It doesn't build a response follower group, but then the social proof of the first few thousand actually helps get more (I've tested that )

Good luck with everything, when I get some spare time I'll sit through the video and check it out in full.

I still think there are some sales going astray with that video since anyone who already knows about Twitter (but might be interested in your product to get your perspective) won't want to be told about it for 35 minutes just to get to the buy button.

If you were a client of mine - I'd suggest you tested with a sign up form and including a buy button for those who just want to buy it now

Andy

Hint for MikeyMan120: in your experiment, be sure to test sending straight to clickbank salesletter to creating something of VALUE & sending them there b4 sales letter. Something of value could be an audio, video, live show, teleseminar, or even a blog post/review.

ExRat & JayXtreme - your welcome - if you ever have a question for me directly, hit me up in Twitter & I'll jump back over here

AndyHenry - abso-freakin-lutely! write sales copy for a skimming audience. They skim because they can. You can highlight your points in BIG RED HEADLINES, Johnson Boxes, and pictures of hot chicks in bikinis. It's not quite as easy with video because people can jump around so much.

Also, one more thing -- it ain't just about the SALES CONVERSIONS either. If people make impulse purchases, they're more likely to refund as well. Not sure if you noticed, but with this economy people are using those 30 day guarantees a lot more often now. So, it's even more important right now to get a committed customer.

I'm planning on sticking to this product for a while. So, I'll be testing quite a few different variables.

Peace out y'all...

I have a Coup to run ;-)

Sensei Harris
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised...
It Will Be Tweeted!

I'd like to see a 35 minute video with Fung Me Hah, or whatever that bold Samurai's name is.

Hey guys

Interesting thread, I thought I jump in and give you a quick heads up on my experiences with Harris and this Coup De Twitter product.

First up, if you really object to watching a 35 minute video without controls, simply use Firefox with Download Helper, it will detect the video and you can download it for watching at your own pace.

But here's the deal, you know what you'll do, you'll skip through the video to get to the price at the end and think "its too expensive" without understanding the product. The point of allowing the video to be watched in one stint is twofold, it allows the provider to get the message across, and it also filters out those who are looking for a quick "get in, get out" refund policy.

Now I might be seen as biased, I follow Harris on twitter and I like his marketing game. It doesn't mean that I'll buy any old crap he churns out, I'm a successful man in my own right, for me to open my wallet to a product takes some serious convincing.

However I have known Harris long enough (since the 4 minute money days) to know that he's human and he does care about his products, and the people that buy them. He's not a "pump and dump" man, he puts a lot of effort into a product, both before and after a sale.

If you had watched the video, you would have seen his money back + $100 offer and whilst I accept that its not impossible to just go out alone and follow a whole bunch of people, its the relationship building that is missing from most people's ventures.

I'm not going to give away his tactics on here, and equally I'm not going to bung an affiliate link in my footer for my own personal gain. But here are some stats...

4996 followers in 11 days. I'm talking targetted followers; targetted and responsive. I'm getting a lot of RT's, conversation, referrals, recommendations and more. However, I'm doing the tweets, not Harris. He shows you the way but you have to take action and be a compelling reason for people to interact.

This is the point, Harris has an awesome product but if you want to click a button and walk away, or not watch a 35 minute video, then maybe you are in the wrong place.

The beauty about his product is he is not saying "pick the IM niche & promote this" and leaving everyone to fight over scraps. Its about finding yourself and making that something valuable to your followers. *Hint* if it interests you, then maybe there a bunch of people on twitter that would like to hear what you have to say.

Here is the sick thing, since I started typing, I'm now up to 5010. I've not tried to sell a damn thing, just provided value and information and trust. Loyalty follows value and if you are in for the long term, loyalty generates passive incomes for years ahead.

BTW the whole $1 per follower is going to depend on your niche, your ability to interface with them and the offers you present them. However, if you could convert $0.10 per follower, per month, and get $500 per 5000 would that be worthwhile? Imagine if the followers went up or the $0.10 doubled to $0.20? Targetted + relationship + trust + loyalty = link clicking (tracking) and profits.

Good luck.

It is a statistically proven fact that the more times I open my mouth, the rate of my 'required' apologies increases.

It would have never occurred to me that this would be an intentional marketing strategy, thus showing that there is still plenty out there for me to learn. My apologies to Harris Fellman for the naive remark.

I stand by the twjedi and tweetsaber statement however.

You're all missing one (of many) valuable point about the "no controls" on the video ... and, this is only one.

If you've invested 15 minutes into the video, and something comes up ... what do you do? Do you stop watching, knowing that you'll have to start all over from the beginning? Or, do you continue watching because you've already made the time investment.

And when I say "you", I mean, the average prospect ...

Fear of loss.

Look it up. It's obviously a concept lost on a lot of supposed "marketers" here in this thread ...

In my tests, no controls has ALWAYS outperformed a video with controls. Play/Pause controls come in second, and "scrub" controls come in last ... in every test I've done.

That said, I'm working on a video player now that only has one control ... volume. That's one I haven't tested, but based on the fact that everyone has their speakers at different settings, I think it might be worth adding ...

G

Harris...

I liked the vid. The price turned me off, mainly because I don't know you. So, for me, it didn't build up enough credibility. However, after reading this post, I'm going to purchase it.

The only bummer... I have to let the video run for 35 minutes in order to buy it as there is no "buy" button.

So, for the person who comes back and isn't an impulse buy, like me, it does block the sales process.

Food for thought.

I'll come back an post on my review of the product.

Hi! Today, before coming to WF, I had just watched Harris' video. The entire video. I didn't end up buying, because I can't afford $199 now, but I liked his enthusiasm, and I feel the product sounded worthwhile.

True, at first I found it kind of annoying that I couldn't "skim", but we all are just too impatient sometimes. Honestly, Harris gave out some good information in the video. Maybe it is because I am a bit of a newbie, but I was certainly willing to sit and listen for some tidbits of info.

If I had the money, I probably would have bought. And, like everything else on the internet, when I want to go back and buy, I just have to look him (or the product) up to buy it. I agree that he should be able to market any way he wants to. And, he made a good point that he will probably get less returns without so many quick "skimmers". Thanks Harris!

I actually bought the product to see what the hoopla was about.

I've bought from Harris before and never been disappointed, but
wasn't really expecting to learn anything new with his Twitter course.

I was mistaken.

It was immediately apparent how much work and research he put
into this product. And he's not boring.

One of my favorite things about it is that he has the course downloadable
and I breezed right through a considerable amount of videos by speeding it
up a couple notches in VLC media player.

Not to mention that the course sort of sharpened up my strategy when it
comes to Twitter and introduced me to a tool that is better than the most
popular ones (which I wasted my money on now that I've got this new one.)

All in all, I think 200 bucks should be a bargain for most, once they've consumed
and implemented the course.

I've gotta commend you on this one Harris.

When you say this is the product you're most proud of, I say...

You should be.

- Jigar