Keyword Elite 2.0 vs. Market Samurai: What Are The Differences?

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I use Market Samurai as my main tool these days (I absolutely love it), but this new Keyword Elite 2.0 tool looks good too.

Can anyone who knows enough about both of them do a comparison? Do I need to buy yet another tool or does Market Samurai cover enough of the features found in Keyword Elite 2.0?

The primary reason I'm even considering Keyword Elite 2.0 is because it has the keyword/PPC spy function that MS doesn't have. If this is the only feature it has over MS, then I'm not sure I'm going to buy it so can someone shed some light on the differences?

Thanks,

Travis
#differences #elite #keyword #market #samurai
  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Market Samurai does allow you to see what the top advertiser is paying as well as the seo value of your keyword. The Adwords module will be released during this year's challenge I believe, judging from what the Noble samurai guys are saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author diggy20
      Is the Adwords module of Market Samurai supposed to be a ppc spy tool as well? Although frankly, there's enough spy tools out there already and frankly I find them a little over-rated anyway.

      Just from reading the feature list, Keyword Elite 2.0 has this JV Diamond Miner, Adwords Site Targeter and CPA Magnet functionality that Market Samurai doesn't have.

      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Market Samurai does allow you to see what the top advertiser is paying as well as the seo value of your keyword. The Adwords module will be released during this year's challenge I believe, judging from what the Noble samurai guys are saying.
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      • Profile picture of the author veotis
        Originally Posted by diggy20 View Post

        Is the Adwords module of Market Samurai supposed to be a ppc spy tool as well? Although frankly, there's enough spy tools out there already and frankly I find them a little over-rated anyway.

        Just from reading the feature list, Keyword Elite 2.0 has this JV Diamond Miner, Adwords Site Targeter and CPA Magnet functionality that Market Samurai doesn't have.
        I'm hearing that Keyword Elite is going to be a monthly deal, where as Market Samurai is a one time fee. I got mine for $97.

        You can get Adwords Digger for free to locate adwords sites and join AFF Spy or Offer Vault free for searching CPA offers. I have Keyword Elite 1, and don't plan on purchasing KE 2.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenneth Fox
          Originally Posted by veotis View Post

          I'm hearing that Keyword Elite is going to be a monthly deal, where as Market Samurai is a one time fee. I got mine for $97.
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          You received incorrect information. It's a one time fee.
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          • Profile picture of the author veotis
            Originally Posted by Kenneth Fox View Post

            You received incorrect information. It's a one time fee.
            Yeah, Kenneth, I found that out when I went throught the order process.
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        • Profile picture of the author dragonlordcs
          Originally Posted by veotis View Post

          I'm hearing that Keyword Elite is going to be a monthly deal, where as Market Samurai is a one time fee. I got mine for $97.

          You can get Adwords Digger for free to locate adwords sites and join AFF Spy or Offer Vault free for searching CPA offers. I have Keyword Elite 1, and don't plan on purchasing KE 2.
          I purchased Keyword Elite 2 as a one time fee of $97 for previous Keyword Elite 1 owners, the cost is $197 for new purchasers. I have used it briefly as of yet as I am working on other projects but the videos seemed to make it a no brainer to purchase for me as a previous owner of KE. They are advertising a monthly membership as an upsell.
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          • Profile picture of the author FrontLineMentor
            Originally Posted by dragonlordcs View Post

            I purchased Keyword Elite 2 as a one time fee of $97 for previous Keyword Elite 1 owners, the cost is $197 for new purchasers. I have used it briefly as of yet as I am working on other projects but the videos seemed to make it a no brainer to purchase for me as a previous owner of KE. They are advertising a monthly membership as an upsell.
            Is the $97 price only for the KE1 owner? My IM guru
            sent me a link to his email list (which
            includes me) to purchase KE2 + SEO Elite for
            just $97.

            Not sure how long the offe gonna last though..
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    Just opened MS and got this as an update:

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    Clickbank HopAds - Promote relevant, available Clickbank products and earn commissions of up to 75% on referred sales.
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    In literally 30 seconds or less, you can have created and published, targeted ads published and making money for you on your website.

    I'd say go with MS!
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    • Ya, based on what you guys are telling me here, I think I'll stick with MS. The other stuff Keyword Elite offers are things I don't really need right now or can find someplace else.

      Travis

      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Just opened MS and got this as an update:

      BREAKING NEWS: Faster, Easier, Lazier - "30 Second Ads" to turn your website traffic into cash!

      We've supercharged your Monetization module with a brand new "Generate Dynamic Ads" button. It unlocks FOUR new automated ways to turn your website traffic into cash:

      Google Adsense - Present your users with highly relevant advertising, and earn commissions for each click.
      Amazon Omakase Ads - Promote a wide variety of keyword-targeted Amazon products on your site, and earn commissions on the total value of any referred sales.
      Clickbank HopAds - Promote relevant, available Clickbank products and earn commissions of up to 75% on referred sales.
      eBay Editor Kit Ads - Show current, relevant eBay auction listings on your site and earn commissions for clicks, eBay signups and auction bids.
      In literally 30 seconds or less, you can have created and published, targeted ads published and making money for you on your website.

      I'd say go with MS!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissDarling
      Hands down, Market Samurai is best. If you use thirtydaychallenge.com they will go over so many things that will help you really use Market Samurai to it's fullest extent.

      It's totally free to sign up and do the challenge. To me it is invaluable.

      I did the trial of keyword elite but it just wasn't working for me.

      Update!! You know what, I need to correct myself here. I may not have been completely fair about Keyword Elite. I think this might prove a point that a tool is only as good as it's owner. I honestly never took the time to go through the videos that would teach me the best ways to use Keyword Elite, so I think I will take some time to do that.

      Market Samurai training videos for some reason managed to grab my attention and make sense. So, I don't think I have been completely fair.
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  • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
    I have KE v1 and MS both. I haven't used KE in a while now but I remember it being a fairly good tool. Does anyone know if Brad is offering a discount to KE1 users?
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by LittleMike View Post

      Does anyone know if Brad is offering a discount to KE1 users?
      Yes. You should have received a cupon code yesterday at the email address that you registered KE1 under. Check your spam folder. For some reason, that's where mine ended up and I've never had a problem with email from them getting trhough before.
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      • Profile picture of the author chrisfx
        How much was the discount Lance?

        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        Yes. You should have received a cupon code yesterday at the email address that you registered KE1 under. Check your spam folder. For some reason, that's where mine ended up and I've never had a problem with email from them getting trhough before.
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      • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        Yes. You should have received a cupon code yesterday at the email address that you registered KE1 under. Check your spam folder. For some reason, that's where mine ended up and I've never had a problem with email from them getting trhough before.
        Hey Lance, thanks for the response. I don't remember seeing one. I usually check my spam folder before wiping it out. Let me check a different email address just in case. What do we do if we lost the email?
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      • Profile picture of the author veotis
        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        Yes. You should have received a cupon code yesterday at the email address that you registered KE1 under. Check your spam folder. For some reason, that's where mine ended up and I've never had a problem with email from them getting trhough before.
        Way to go there, Lance. I wouldn't have known it was there for a while. And, I actually changed my mind and bought it because it saved me a $100.
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    • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
      James Schramko (a fellow Warrior) did a very thorough review of the feature/function comparison of Samurai vs. K Elite2. Since James is a big Mac advocate / user, he gives MS the edge, but his overall review is more complete than most review article I usually come across.

      Besides getting the low down on these two fine KW research tools, I'd point out that you should take note of how a Review article should be done. My product reviews will be better now, after read how James did his.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
        Originally Posted by JNFerree View Post

        James Schramko (a fellow Warrior) did a very thorough review of the feature/function comparison of Samurai vs. K Elite2. Since James is a big Mac advocate / user, he gives MS the edge, but his overall review is more complete than most review article I usually come across.

        Besides getting the low down on these two fine KW research tools, I'd point out that you should take note of how a Review article should be done. My product reviews will be better now, after read how James did his.
        All James has to do is install VMWare Fusion/Parallels and a copy of Windows XP and he can be running Keyword Elite 2 (and all other Windows software) on his Mac without any problem at all.

        Kenneth
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        • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
          Originally Posted by Kenneth Rearden View Post

          All James has to do is install VMWare Fusion/Parallels and a copy of Windows XP and he can be running Keyword Elite 2 (and all other Windows software) on his Mac without any problem at all.

          Kenneth
          Quick fyi: KE 2.0 will be MAC compatible in < 30 days if all goes well.

          Brad
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          Originally Posted by Kenneth Rearden View Post

          All James has to do is install VMWare Fusion/Parallels and a copy of Windows XP and he can be running Keyword Elite 2 (and all other Windows software) on his Mac without any problem at all.

          Kenneth
          Folks, Please be careful with parallels on mac!!!

          If you got an IT bud - check it thoroughly

          Not an expert here but...

          Some have had success - others have had tragedy.

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  • Profile picture of the author balric
    I never got a discount link either. I sent a support ticket to see why. I have seen discounts of $100 on google already.
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    I am looking forward to reviewing Keyword Elite real soon the features look amazing
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  • Profile picture of the author txconx
    I can't compare the 2 because I haven't tried KE but I use MS and have to say it's mind blowing. Take the time to watch the videos both at Noble Samurai's site and also on YouTube. If you watch the videos put out by both Noble Samurai and the Thirty Day Challenge, you get good, concise information and better-quality videos but some of the videos made by users also give you a good idea of how people are using this software successfully.

    The monetization module rocks, as does the publishing. I can do a very nice sidebar or blog post about a product fast and easy and publish it to my Wordpress blog directly from MS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      I don't really think it's my place to announce the amount of the prior cutsomer discount in public. I'd really rather you get it from Brad. I'd hate to speak out of turn.

      If you didn't get the cupon via email, Brad stated on a different thread here at WF earlier today that you can contact his help desk and they'll get you taken care of.

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        Thanks, Lance. I appreciate it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Noel
          Three things are stopping me from buying into this:

          1) I have purchased more then enough software programs on launch that are incomplete and full of bugs.

          2) Monthly payments I am so tried of the monthly payment thing.

          3) The Stompernet fiasco. possibly to much on Brads plate.

          I think that I have a great software that just keeps getting better in MS.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by Jeff Noel View Post

            Three things are stopping me from buying into this:

            1) I have purchased more then enough software programs on launch that are incomplete and full of bugs.
            There's a 60 day money back guarantee. Anyway, KE support is pretty dang good.

            Originally Posted by Jeff Noel View Post

            2) Monthly payments I am so tried of the monthly payment thing.
            There is no monthly payment for KE. You're probably thinking about the SEO bonus offer. No big deal. It's easy to cancel.

            Originally Posted by Jeff Noel View Post

            3) The Stompernet fiasco. possibly to much on Brads plate.
            Brad Callen not Brad Fallon
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      Originally Posted by busyman View Post

      I am using KE 2.0 and it has alot of useful features that 1.0 did not have.
      It's good to know you feel this way about the new KE2.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marty S
    Does anybody have the link or PDF for the user guide for KE2.0? I seemed to have misplaced it, and cannot find a link on the KE page without going through that horrid support registration.
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    • Profile picture of the author dragonlordcs
      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

      Does anybody have the link or PDF for the user guide for KE2.0? I seemed to have misplaced it, and cannot find a link on the KE page without going through that horrid support registration.
      Click on the Help button when you open the software for the PDF.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

      Does anybody have the link or PDF for the user guide for KE2.0? I seemed to have misplaced it, and cannot find a link on the KE page without going through that horrid support registration.
      It's inside the software. Big help button on the top right :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author danwan
    My personal vote goes for Market Samurai. It really has a lot of potential. And if you are NOT a Dirty Day Challenge Guy, then you should wait a couple of days to see all the MS features they revealed during the 30 Day Challenge.
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    • Profile picture of the author FrontLineMentor
      Originally Posted by danwan View Post

      My personal vote goes for Market Samurai. It really has a lot of potential. And if you are NOT a Dirty Day Challenge Guy, then you should wait a couple of days to see all the MS features they revealed during the 30 Day Challenge.
      Market Samurai has its own advantage over
      keyword elite..so does keyword elite, has its
      own advantage over market samurai

      For those not in dirty day challenge guy,
      we should wait a couple of days? Can you
      elaborate?
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinewarriors
    i'm a first time user of KE, i find it awesome!!
    i'm very pleased, they did a hell of a good job to provide the best keyword tool for us!

    ps: SMElite rock's!
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonBourne
    I own both KE 2.0 and Market Samurai, even though I am a keyword software designer. Both pieces of software have their pluses and minuses (as with all software), but KE 2.0 is great for the PPC side of things, and Market Samurai is good for the SEO side of things at this time.

    Price matters in my opinion, though. For quick and dirty SEO software, there are other good alternatives if price matters to you in this economy.
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    • Profile picture of the author veotis
      Originally Posted by warriortx View Post

      Why not use the free one google supplies?
      Now tell me, how in the world does that statement relate to the topic of this thread of Keyword Elite 2.0 vs. Market Samurai? It's sorta like people discussing the differences between two specific cars and someone says "Why not take the bus?"
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by warriortx View Post

      Why not use the free one google supplies?
      Well, I don't know about Market Samurai, but KE2 does way more than the free G tool.

      You're trying to compare a stand alone word processor to a full blown personal PC.
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    • Profile picture of the author FrontLineMentor
      Originally Posted by warriortx View Post

      Why not use the free one google supplies?
      The google tool is superb, but
      it is not complete..it just provides
      the search volume, search trend,
      cost per click, level of competition.

      The paid tool will show the exact
      number of competition. Keyword
      Elite 2 will show what keywords
      the competition site are using
      to rank very well.

      In short we can say that the paid
      version has lots of good
      features that the free version doesnt
      have.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    To do all the research that market samurai does and then get my blog set up, with the proper converting Clickbank product, it would take me at least 5 days, much of that manual research. With Market Samurai, I can have everything up and going (with content and backlinks) in an hour, or less. Best money I've spent.
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    • Profile picture of the author tuxonio
      I just bought Market Samurai and I can only say that if I had it before months of wasted time would not have happened...this tool is amazing you can save days of research in just few minutes...I think that it is a tool every marketer should have... I am just thrilled with this tool...I will give it a 10+ easily...I dont know why I have not seen it before!!

      On the to other hand Brad Callen has a solid reputation when it comes to developing and launching good sound software...I have several of his products and I am very pleased with them...I went trough the sales letter for his KewWord Elite 2.0 and found the product´s features very very interesting...with a lot of power...the down side for me is that it is not MAC compatible...and it is a drag I can use parralles but it would not be the same...the plus against MS will be the adwords module...but then again MS adwords module will be coming up very soon...and it will make this software unparalleled...

      Just a couple of thoughts guys...take care
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Faraday
        [I went trough the sales letter for his KewWord Elite 2.0 and found the product´s features very very interesting...with a lot of power...the down side for me is that it is not MAC compatible...and it is a drag I can use parralles but it would not be the same...the plus against MS will be the adwords module...but then again MS adwords module will be coming up very soon...and it will make this software unparalleled...

        Parallels probably not a good Idea - many stories here

        Torn between KW2 and MS. Both someday : )

        We'll see when the adwords and other features come out - probably this month after the big KW splash.

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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    I haven't spent a great deal of time with Keyword Elite 2 yet but from what I've seen when playing around with the software, it's very very good. A different kettle of fish completely when compared to version 1. There are some really great features in there. The JV finder feature is quality. Haven't put it to good use yet but I will be doing when I get a bit more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author GIahGroup
    I find the CPA Magnet over rated on KE.2 as it just pulls data from the guys over at Tracking202 and its not quite accurate.. other features on it are pretty good too hope some more will be added though as I finf MS much more comprehensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Pateman
    Hi Travis,

    I like MS, it has everything that's needed. Although they are a bit slow to launch their affiliate site for the product, so until then you won't see it heavily promoted from any of my sites.

    regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author nazri97
      Maybe until now we don't get any conclusion which one is better, MS or KE.
      Why KE doesn't offer a free trial.
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    • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
      I got a huge discount off the KW Elite price tag as part of a mega bonus from one of Brad's JV product launch deals and like some of you guys say, its pretty good on some (most) aspects when doing KW research.

      Samurai seems much more robust and includes metrics that you really need to have in order to enter a market and compete with any confidence in a specific niche. But, I still boot up Micro Niche Finder more than either of these, coz Longtails KWs work best (3 word phrases is the formula)

      Yesterday, I sat in on a joint webinar from Brian Johnson and James Jones that showed how to build these mini micro niche sites < 2 hours. I wish I had known about Brian's NetMarketingCourse 6 months ago, I wouldn't have bought either MS or KW Elite and saved myself a few hundred bucks.

      To me, the $97 I coughed up for MNF was well worth it, plus there's a major upgrade coming next week and I won't have to pay any more $$ for it. I like getting lifetime upgrades w/out having to click the PayPal button.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Very simple, use MS if you're looking to find keywords, backlinks, quickly find affiliate products, monetize with amazon, cb, google, or clickbank. It doesn't do anything with CPA (yet) but wait and see for the last module. I choose and love Market Samurai. Heck, they're both great tool, but start with samurai first then get KE. Use both.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyPlus
    What I like better about Market Samurai is their SEO competition module
    which analyses your top 10 competitors for a page one ranking on Google.

    What's the point on finding a really great keyword phrase, with a low number
    of competing pages and a high number of searches, only to find out that
    your top 10 competitors are carved in stone on Google's page 1.

    You'll have literally no chance of cracking the top 10 positions because the top 10
    have 10 year old domain names, 100,000+ backlinks and SEO optimazed to the max.

    Keyword Elite won't tell you that.

    If you want to learn some really "off the hook" keyword research methods,
    check out Howie Schwartz. He'll show you how to find some fantastic keywords
    just using the Google Keyword tool (which is free).
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
      Originally Posted by MoneyPlus View Post

      What I like better about Market Samurai is their SEO competition module
      which analyses your top 10 competitors for a page one ranking on Google.

      What's the point on finding a really great keyword phrase, with a low number
      of competing pages and a high number of searches, only to find out that
      your top 10 competitors are carved in stone on Google's page 1.

      You'll have literally no chance of cracking the top 10 positions because the top 10
      have 10 year old domain names, 100,000+ backlinks and SEO optimazed to the max.

      Keyword Elite won't tell you that.
      I can't think of anything that is more of an untrue statement than that, unless I'm completely not understanding what you're saying and here's why. I apologize if I misunderstood you.

      1. 2009-10-16_1619
      2. 2009-10-16_1620
      3. 2009-10-16_1622

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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    I agree with Brad. Keyword Elite 2 does exactly that. The search engine domination feature gives you lots of stats on the top 10's onpage and offpage elements. It even has a very cool feature that uses a formula to calculate the strength of the competition and basically tells you how hard it would be to rank for that particular word / phrase.

    For me, KE2 is extremely powerful and a complete step up from the first KE. It's probably the best piece of software I own... And I own lots.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumaryan85
    Have them both, but I prefer KE 2.0
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  • Profile picture of the author nmh
    Where does MS give you the OCI or Commercial Intent? Also I find that MS does not really give you a great choice of finding keywords outside of the Google list (like MNF or KWE). Did I miss something?
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  • Profile picture of the author salonmar
    Hello
    Well I tried both. And MS get my vote. But that's because to me it's easier to use. And it's user friendly. Who wants to think long and hard these days!

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