by Itachi
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Hello,

Does anyone recommend this software ? it sound interesting, one time payment Email marketing, however, I thought about this.. if this software is to be hosted on your own account, this might increase your bandwidth and or be restricted !
#mailx
  • Profile picture of the author Itachi
    after a little research.. Email Policy - HostGator there :

    • No direct SMTP mailers are allowed. An example of this would be a Darkmailer or The Bat!. Any mail should be sent through the local mail server/MTA for further delivery by the server and not done directly by scripts.


    Just as I thought ! great.. so if anyone know a web hosting company with no such restrictions, to use as just a mail hosting would be nice altought.. I have a feeling, there is a reason why those big email marketing companies exist, and cost so much !
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    • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
      Originally Posted by Itachi View Post

      after a little research.. Email Policy - HostGator there :

      • No direct SMTP mailers are allowed. An example of this would be a Darkmailer or The Bat!. Any mail should be sent through the local mail server/MTA for further delivery by the server and not done directly by scripts.


      Just as I thought ! great.. so if anyone know a web hosting company with no such restrictions, to use as just a mail hosting would be nice altought.. I have a feeling, there is a reason why those big email marketing companies exist, and cost so much !
      http://bigscoots.com is one
      JVZooHost Affordable Reliable Web Hosting is another.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
    I also wonder if the product allows you to generate autoresponder code to create optin-forms and whether you can send email messages in HTML.

    My other concern is that this product will probably be attractive to spammers who have been banned by Aweber or Get Response and their spamming may somehow end up causing the developer to stop providing the cloud service.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
    I thought the product is cloud based so why would it be hosted on your own account?


    Originally Posted by Itachi View Post

    Hello,

    Does anyone recommend this software ? it sound interesting, one time payment Email marketing, however, I thought about this.. if this software is to be hosted on your own account, this might increase your bandwidth and or be restricted !
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    • Profile picture of the author Itachi
      Originally Posted by TrafficFlow View Post

      I thought the product is cloud based so why would it be hosted on your own account?

      yea that's what I mean.. I'm not quite sure what they mean "cloud based" but if you read the hostgator guidelines and the last mention of SMTP, it does sound like it's a self hosted so it would mean like on "your cloud" basically.. because aweber etc are already "cloud based softwares" so I wouldn't understand the need to point it out, but like I said.. can you imagine the spike in upload traffic when sending out thousands of emails ? there is a reason Aweber etc cost so much

      by the way there is a classified ads thread here mentioning the OTO's etc, plus alot of bonuses : http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...thly-fees.html

      I don't know if it's permitted to post such a link though.. so forgive me in advance mods if it isn't.

      the whole thing feels pretty legit (altought offering extra features to a software as a "PRO or PREMIUM" always felt kinda sketchy to me.. but even resell rights .. that could be interesting, the problem being, the hosting provider guidelines, so, as much as I'm stil interested in this products, and even the OTO's, as one of the them is access to his future softwares free of charge !

      I'm Also sceptical.. so 11 hr left or so, if I grab it, I might aswell grab the bonuses, so any help / input from buyers would be greatly appreciated !
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  • Profile picture of the author funprojects
    Good point about the spammers and possible consequences to the rest of the users. Would be nice if developers could monitor this thread and provide some answers. Or some advanced affiliate?

    Do you know what the OTOs and upsells/upgrades are? I really hate it when I buy something, only to discover that the FE is extremely limited and I have to go way over my budget to get what seems to have been promised in the promo video.

    P.S. Actually, you still need to add your own SMTP server so it doesn't seem to work straight out of the box.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
    I reviewed a demo video of MailX and it is clear that you need to integrate it with SMTP and that will require you to use a service like MailGun or SendGrid (both of which have monthly fees) if you plan on sending out alot of emails. While you could try to use the free GMAIL SMTP it is not recommended according to this article I found:
    SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) is the industry standard for sending emails. Unlike PHP mail function, SMTP uses proper authentication which increases email deliverability. Gmail provides SMTP service that you can use to send out emails from your WordPress site. If you just want to send WordPress notification emails to yourself and few users on your site, then Gmail SMTP servers are the best option. However, if you are planning on sending newsletter emails using WordPress, then you should use a mass emailing service provider, like MailGun or SendGrid.
    My conclusion is that this service only makes sense for those who have been having problems with Aweber or Get Response and are willing to also pay monthly fees (which may possibly be lower than Aweber or Get Response) to integrate MailX with SendGrid or MailGun. Since I am not familiar with either SendGrid or MailGun I am even more hesitant to purchase MailX.

    On the other hand, I was just told by someone that you can use SMTP through your website via a hosting company such as Hostgator and the prior post also mentions using Hostgator.

    Anyone have any experience with this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    After doing some research, it appears the developer of MailX is simply using a whitelabeled version of MailWizz as the software that powers the email.

    MailWizz - Email Marketing Application - PHP Scripts | CodeCanyon

    You're better off buying it yourself from Codecanyon than trusting another person's server that may, or may not, be online 1-2 years from now.
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    • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
      I knew that and read a number of comments on Code Canyon's website and noticed that while the overall rating of the sottware is good some people were having problems getting the software to work on their server (i.e. it would stall on sending, etc.)

      So I kind of liked the idea that the software would be on another server so I would not have the hassle of installing the software and getting it to work. I know there is a risk that they could discontinue the service in 2 years but if that happens I can just be sure I have a backup of my lists and then go back to Aweber.

      Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

      After doing some research, it appears the developer of MailX is simply using a whitelabeled version of MailWizz as the software that powers the email.

      MailWizz - Email Marketing Application - PHP Scripts | CodeCanyon

      You're better off buying it yourself from Codecanyon than trusting another person's server that may, or may not, be online 1-2 years from now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by TrafficFlow View Post

        I knew that and read a number of comments on Code Canyon's website and noticed that while the overall rating of the sottware is good some people were having problems getting the software to work on their server (i.e. it would stall on sending, etc.)

        So I kind of liked the idea that the software would be on another server so I would not have the hassle of installing the software and getting it to work. I know there is a risk that they could discontinue the service in 2 years but if that happens I can just be sure I have a backup of my lists and then go back to Aweber.
        Be careful with that line of thinking. That sounds good in theory, but when you import that backup to Aweber, every single person will need to confirm they want to be on the list. Confirmation rates for imports are normally dismal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    One more warning here and I'm done.

    You're uploading your list to their server. Yes...that nice, large list that took you several months/years to build out will be sitting on an two affiliate marketer's personal server. I don't know these guys well enough to put my customer list on there.

    Oh, and this guy predicts the infrastructure will fail soon...

    https://forum.mailwizz.com/threads/m...76/#post-11165
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  • Profile picture of the author Itachi
    Interesting..thanks for your valuable input guys so this might not be the way to go in the end.. nice investigating @Jesus perez !
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
    I contacted an expert on SMTP for email on Fiverr and it is his opinion that there is no way this will perform as well as Aweber's email platform.
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