Offline Marketing Pro

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Anybody bought offline marketing pro, Please review!
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  • Profile picture of the author femchie2
    Another "Offline" product....geez don't we have enough of this already? What is it about? Oh well I'll go see if I can find it on Google.

    - Femi
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by femchie2 View Post

      Another "Offline" product....geez don't we have enough of this already? What is it about? Oh well I'll go see if I can find it on Google.

      - Femi
      Oh no not another offline product! Because we need more online products!
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
        Hello Steve, I am interested in your course, but there is an upsell: IM Niche Formula..apparently and also I would like to know how it differs from Million Dollar License that came out awhile back?
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    • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
      Originally Posted by femchie2 View Post

      Another "Offline" product....geez don't we have enough of this already? What is it about? Oh well I'll go see if I can find it on Google.

      - Femi
      Hey Femi,

      In any free market you get multiple versions of virtually everything. There will be a lot more offline products in the coming months. Still not as many "offline products" as the Internet marketing how-to material that you offer though.

      Nothing personal - just couldn't resist coming to the defense of the offline arena.

      Kind regards,

      Calvin
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      • Profile picture of the author femchie2
        None taken.

        Femi

        Originally Posted by hotlinkz View Post

        Hey Femi,

        In any free market you get multiple versions of virtually everything. There will be a lot more offline products in the coming months. Still not as many "offline products" as the Internet marketing how-to material that you offer though.

        Nothing personal - just couldn't resist coming to the defense of the offline arena.

        Kind regards,

        Calvin
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      • Profile picture of the author Bayo
        Originally Posted by hotlinkz View Post

        Hey Femi,

        In any free market you get multiple versions of virtually everything. There will be a lot more offline products in the coming months. Still not as many "offline products" as the Internet marketing how-to material that you offer though.

        Nothing personal - just couldn't resist coming to the defense of the offline arena.

        Kind regards,

        Calvin
        Amen to that!

        The fact is this...

        If you frequent the Warrior Forum, which is the most logical place for any serious marketer to test their product, you are bound to see many Offline Marketing and Internet Marketing products being launched.

        That's what this place is for.

        Step outside the WF and its a whole new world.

        Even though I have invested in educating myself by continuously reading and implementing I am fully aware that there are forums and products AND services that I'm not even aware of and probably may never know.

        So the issue is not information overload, its about personal ability to 'filter and focus' - That's something we all have to do whether its relating to OM products or products outside of the niche.

        The WSO section contains numerous similar items on list building, traffic generation, PPC, Google page 1 ranking secrets, article marketing ... and the list goes on. Do a comparative analysis and the ratio of Offline Marketing products to other is pretty low, but because it;s all the rage right now your eye seems to catch OM items more than others (well at least mine do!)

        Cheers

        'Bayo


        P.S. Which reminds me...I've bought numerous self-improvement products and many different version of the same thing e.g. Think And Grow Rich. Why? Because I just want to see if there's anything, anything at all that I might pick up from the view point of another author of the great work.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
    This is a nice pitch , but does it work? Have you tried it? Sinple blueprints of " 10 steps to follow" are easy to put together. I could put one together for you on Stock market analysis, but you would need alot more to actually make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    My course is partially based off of MDL where I learned how to do the majority of this myself. However, the major difference is in the way that I actually implement the strategy which you'll discover in the course. I show you how I've turned this proven strategy into a "hands off" business where I have others do all of the work for me, and I collect the payments. It's an online/offline hybrid of MDL if you want to get an idea of what Offline Marketing Pro is.

    The OTO is Mark Dulisse's IM Niche Formula. This OTO is basically a special offer that I've worked out with Mark simply because we're friends. Now, does this have anything to do with Offline Marketing Pro? Not really.

    I've put all of my effort into the Offline Marketing Pro course that I didn't really want to put a "necessary" OTO in the checkout process. A lot of people get really ticked when you offer them something for a low price only to find out that to really get all the benefits, they have to buy something else or subscribe to some monthly membership.... I want people to get everything they need with the course for just one low price. I really want to over deliver with this course.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
      Thanks for that Steve. We'll give it a shot. FYI-The recommendation came from Steve Shaw over at Submit your article. great guy and always good recomendations.
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  • Profile picture of the author scott_krech
    Hey Steve,

    Sent you a PM.

    I'm on the fence on this one...especially because I've bought TONS of 'Offline Gold' products recently...and BTW I do own Bob Serling's M.D.L., so this has me even more curious, with questions.

    Don't know if this the right place to ask them but here goes:

    How much overlap is there between your course and MDL?

    Have you made it easier to implement the strategy?

    With your system, do your clients implement the marketing strategy, or do we do this for them?

    What kind of capital is required to build this monster...besides the investment in your course?

    Do you have any students having success with licensing yet?

    You say that it takes 2-3 weeks to start getting checks...is that 2-3 weeks per client...or is it 2-3 weeks to get the system set-up to fill your marketing funnel with qualified prospects?

    Sorry for all the questions, I know you're in the middle of launch and probably pulling your hair out, but time is of the essence for me right now. Have a 2nd child coming this Christmas and my wife has made it very clear she does NOT want to go back to work...so I need to replace her Six-Figure salary within the next 4 months.

    Feel free to PM me if your answers would give away any of your juicy secrets!

    Thanks Steve!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by scott_krech View Post

      Hey Steve,

      Sent you a PM.

      I'm on the fence on this one...especially because I've bought TONS of 'Offline Gold' products recently...and BTW I do own Bob Serling's M.D.L., so this has me even more curious, with questions.

      Don't know if this the right place to ask them but here goes:

      How much overlap is there between your course and MDL?

      Have you made it easier to implement the strategy?

      With your system, do your clients implement the marketing strategy, or do we do this for them?

      What kind of capital is required to build this monster...besides the investment in your course?

      Do you have any students having success with licensing yet?

      You say that it takes 2-3 weeks to start getting checks...is that 2-3 weeks per client...or is it 2-3 weeks to get the system set-up to fill your marketing funnel with qualified prospects?

      Sorry for all the questions, I know you're in the middle of launch and probably pulling your hair out, but time is of the essence for me right now. Have a 2nd child coming this Christmas and my wife has made it very clear she does NOT want to go back to work...so I need to replace her Six-Figure salary within the next 4 months.

      Feel free to PM me if your answers would give away any of your juicy secrets!

      Thanks Steve!
      Hey Scott, I've received your PM and I'm writing you back now

      The part about your wife having a baby and needing money sounds pretty familiar to me...
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      • Profile picture of the author alashton
        I have bought this and you should be aware that this has very little to do with selling internet services, well the initial strategy anyway, but there are others to follow.

        In fact it has very little to do with internet marketing at all. It's very well written, the ideas are first rate and explained in great detail. it targets medium to large companies by means of clever outsourcing which is Ideal if you hate dealing with people face to face or even on the phone.

        It's a step up to serious marketing and the words offline marketing mean something quite different here. If you have the balls to be a big player then go for it. Don't know if I have - probably need to watch that Tony Robbins self-belief video again.
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      • Profile picture of the author femchie2
        Thanks for stepping in to answer questions about your new product Steve. I respect you for doing that. I'm sorry but I'm just tired of seeing all the various "Offline" methods in the WSO section that I just stopped paying attention. The last one I bought was Rachel's 10k in a weekend, great course by the way...Don't get me wrong this is a "HOT" niche, but it's better to follow ONE proven system from someone that has done it time and time again, and is still able to get results.

        I have done a few research on this and it seems people that have bought it are satisfied. Kudos to you! One area that appeals to me is how you say..one can do this without cold calling and doing face to face presentations. Never seen that claim offered before and I'm really curious to know more on that.

        I'm still implementing some new money making methods myself at the moment and don't want to be distracted by this. What's your "HONEST" advice though? Can I do this on the side by dedicating XX number of hours a week while it won't distract my existing ongoing projects? Or do you think it's wiser to stay focused in what I am already doing and after I'm done with it or I have completely automated it, then I can jump onboard your course? Make sense?

        Femi
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  • Profile picture of the author Sadat Ali
    Steve

    It would be really helpful for others to know the answers to Scott's questions. I am in the process of buying but then held back as I have bought too many 'offline' WSO's and I came in hear to find further reviews on it.

    Thanks.

    Sadat
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    No problem, here's the answers to those questions:

    How much overlap is there between your course and MDL?

    Offline Marketing Pro is based off of basic strategy in MDL. However, OMP is really an "online/offline hybrid" of MDL. If you own MDL already, you'll see a lot of similiarity in the basics, but you'll also learn how I twisted it around to where I didn't have to make any phone calls, do any sales presentations, or talk to anyone until I landed a deal. If you're like me and you're not willing to sit around making phone calls and selling on the phone all day, then OMP is for you.

    Have you made it easier to implement the strategy?

    Yes, I've made it much easier by showing you how I hire others to do all of the work for me. I'll show you how I hired them, how I qualified them, how I taught them how to sell, and how I get them to work for $0 up front.

    With your system, do your clients implement the marketing strategy, or do we do this for them?

    It's half and half... you do some of it, and they do some of it. This is explained in the course.

    What kind of capital is required to build this monster...besides the investment in your course?

    The minimum investment is sending out letters in the mail. Other costs associated are up to you whether you want to outsource parts of the process or not. This is all up to you!

    Do you have any students having success with licensing yet?

    The course is brand new so I only have a couple of students who have made deals. These students have only had the course for 3 weeks. However there are hundreds of students taking action now that course is out. It wont be long before they're all landing deals!

    You say that it takes 2-3 weeks to start getting checks...is that 2-3 weeks per client...or is it 2-3 weeks to get the system set-up to fill your marketing funnel with qualified prospects?

    It all depends on how many clients you land... If you land one client within the first few weeks, then you'll have them send you a payment before you even start the work. I recommend working with one client at a time, especially when starting out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sadat Ali
    Thanks Steve... that was a super fast response. I appreciate the honesty in your answers. And thank you Scott for asking those questions. Very helpful to us all.

    Sadat
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    Someone just sent me a PM with a good question which I thought I'd post in here:

    If you are outsourcing everything why would you limit to one company starting off?
    One presenter, and a sales line who could handle questions-and than they apply whatever it is you have licensed, correct?

    Do you provide info on how-who to outsource to? Individuals or a company?
    Can that also be handled by email.

    thanks
    ******


    Because even though you are outsourcing everything, the first time you land a deal your hired help is not going to know all there is to know about implementing the strategy. You still need to be available to answer questions and work with the client. More than one client can become overwhelming when you're starting out just because it's a new process to you.

    I personally do NOT outsource the actual implementation of the campaign. I only outsource up to landing the deal. Once I receive a payment, I take over with the client to make sure everything is put into place correctly.

    I outsourced to a lady in Wisconsin which I found on Elance.com. She had previous experience setting up deals for her sisters business (unrelated to licensing). In fact, some of the experience she had ended up becoming part of my strategy. She actually taught me a few things about landing deals so it worked out great.

    Some of my students are already outsourcing to telemarketing firms. I'm sure they can answer more about this in the community forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotshot
    Steve,

    I just want to check, would this strategy work here in the UK? or is it just appropriate
    for the US?

    Also, you mention MDL. I have not purchased this course, do I need to before I can implement your system?

    Thank You
    hotshot
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by femchie2 View Post

      Thanks for stepping in to answer questions about your new product Steve. I respect you for doing that. I'm sorry but I'm just tired of seeing all the various "Offline" methods in the WSO section that I just stopped paying attention. The last one I bought was Rachel's 10k in a weekend, great course by the way...Don't get me wrong this is a "HOT" niche, but it's better to follow ONE proven system from someone that has done it time and time again, and is still able to get results.

      I have done a few research on this and it seems people that have bought it are satisfied. Kudos to you! One area that appeals to me is how you say..one can do this without cold calling and doing face to face presentations. Never seen that claim offered before and I'm really curious to know more on that.

      I'm still implementing some new money making methods myself at the moment and don't want to be distracted by this. What's your "HONEST" advice though? Can I do this on the side by dedicating XX number of hours a week while it won't distract my existing ongoing projects? Or do you think it's wiser to stay focused in what I am already doing and after I'm done with it or I have completely automated it, then I can jump onboard your course? Make sense?

      Femi
      Hi Femi,

      I would recommend at least giving OMP a try. It will take some time to get everything sorted out at the start, but once you get things in motion, the time involved is literally none until you have someone land a deal for you. I can't make the decision for you, all I can suggest is giving it a go.

      Originally Posted by hotshot View Post

      Steve,

      I just want to check, would this strategy work here in the UK? or is it just appropriate
      for the US?

      Also, you mention MDL. I have not purchased this course, do I need to before I can implement your system?

      Thank You
      hotshot
      Hi Hotshot,

      Yes this will work in the UK. In fact, it will work anywhere in the world that there are medium to large sized businesses. If you really wanted to , you could do everything from the UK and conduct deals in the U.S.

      It's practically limitless in this regard
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe2
        Hi Steve

        You said "The minimum investment is sending out letters in the mail. Other costs associated are up to you whether you want to outsource parts of the process or not. This is all up to you!"

        What kind of mailing is involved. Do you mean large mailings to prospects. I live in SEAsia. How do you think I would be affected by this as my mailings would of course have to be by airmail.

        Thanks
        Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    Joe,

    Unfortunately I do not know the answer to that since I live in the U.S.

    If I was in Asia and I wanted to send out letters to the U.S., I would outsource this work to someone on Elance.com - just hire someone here in the U.S. to insert pre-written letters into envelopes and send them out for you, then send the bill to you each time they mail. This could actually be really cheap!
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    I have to say, I read your "candid review", and I still have no idea what this system is or how it works. I'm considering purchasing this, but always get suspicious when the method is so secret it can't be revealed until you pay the money.

    Can someone who has purchased this give an unbiased review (not one that ends with your affiliate link and bonuses), including for example: 1. have you made money with it? 2. how many hours did it take to set up, 3. what are the critical factors for success? 4. what are the most difficult parts to do? etc.
    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author bsnrjones
    Okay, I will chime in here - with no affiliate link!

    I have purchased the course. The reason for the "secrecy" is because if you tell everything, there would be no reason to purchase - but I will give it a shot without spilling the beans.

    1. I have not made money with it yet. Not because I am not doing anything, I am! I just purchased it last week.

    2. I believe it taking action before "everything is figured out", so I am moving forward after just a couple of hours of work. There will be more things to do, but they can be done after you have made contact with potential clients.

    3. The biggest factor for success will be staying focused and taking action. Steve has proven this works - and is actually pretty simple - you just have to take action.

    4. There will no doubt be some things that stretch you - but are easily done either by outsourcing or spending the time personally to figure it out. NOTHING about this is super hard - in fact most of us on the Warrior Forum will tend to overthink it and make it much more complicated than it needs to be!

    I have purchased a bunch of offline products, but this one lays out the clearest path and system that I have seen. I highly recommend it.
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    • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
      Thanks...Let us know how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author mpthink
    Steve,

    Will you please respond to my pm? Thanks.

    Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
    Hello to all. I have looked at this course and had my lawyer review the contracts. The course is good, but to do things properly, you are looking at 1500$ and up. There is no easy money out there, and this is no exception.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    Yep, this is a BUSINESS, so there is an investment up front. The more you invest, the better your results.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
      That is the point Steve. There is nothing wrong with that at all, as I said it is a good course, only it is not for an international audience, as the laws are different in other countries. It is mainly for the US market and possibly the UK.
      My point in posting about the needed investment is that your salesletter is misleading as it states clearly that there is NO OUT OF POCKET EXPENSE, which is not the case ...at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan View Post

      Steve, I write sales copy so I know how easy it is to make stuff more
      appealing through exaggeration. Sadly you fell in your own trap-



      on your sales page-



      Which is it?

      Usually, hyped copy can be "blamed" on the buyer not following through
      (which most don't), so most stuff will remain a mystery. When you state
      there is NO upfront money needed you flat out lie.

      Go and change that on your page before it snowballs beyond this thread.

      It's dirty and you are wrong to do it


      Paul
      Excuse me but you DO NOT NEED to pay anything up front. However, as it's discussed in my course, investing in certain things can help drastically. And I don't like being called "dirty" when you know nothing about me and I am certainly not a liar!

      I'm thinking about reporting this thread because it's starting to spiral out of control.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by Jboxer View Post

      Offline Marketing is a thing of the past, for those who want a broader audience. It's nice to network locally but you dont have access to the billions of people that are online and looking for you..
      Offline Marketing Pro has nothing to do with marketing locally.
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      • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
        Originally Posted by Steve Mount View Post

        Offline Marketing Pro has nothing to do with marketing locally.
        Sorry, but once again what you say is very vague and misleading. It DOES have to do with marketing locally...within the US. Otherwise you need a contract lawyer, and a good one at that, as these contracts can be for large amounts of money and in certain countries that involves a whole diffrent type of agreement. even the marketing approach you laid out, would only work with US companies.

        No offence but I speak from experience as I have put together unit investment trusts and various other private placement contract deals for 15 years now.
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        • Profile picture of the author abrandt
          Originally Posted by PaulusD View Post

          Sorry, but once again what you say is very vague and misleading. It DOES have to do with marketing locally...within the US. Otherwise you need a contract lawyer, and a good one at that, as these contracts can be for large amounts of money and in certain countries that involves a whole diffrent type of agreement. even the marketing approach you laid out, would only work with US companies.

          No offence but I speak from experience as I have put together unit investment trusts and various other private placement contract deals for 15 years now.


          Hello Paulus:

          I have purchased this WSO:
          Aug. 28, 2009 12:52:59 PDT
          PayPal Transaction ID: 4JT6802220607953P

          I noticed that your post has not been responded to by Steve Mount ... so I thought I would confirm your assertions for the benefit of all interested WF Members:

          ... contracts can be for large amounts of money and in certain countries that involves a whole diffrent type of agreement.

          You are correct. My background is similar to yours, having previously syndicated multiple private placement memorandums. Targeting mid-size companies, as recommended by the WSO author, can certainly involve sizable upfront fees and residuals... which is one of the primary selling points of the author (and he's right)... whereby a well-drafted contract shall be required vs. the incomplete "contract template" provided within the course itself, despite many representations that everything needed is provided for in the course. This would be very appealing were it accurate.

          Having read all OMP posts (reading between the lines) on WF and OMP, I have reason to believe that the author has likely utilized a well-drafted contract for his own (6) accounts, needed to support and protect
          his licensing financial interests... (as promotionally outlined within his WF posts and the OMP course itself).

          In my mind, the OMP concept is reasonably viable, however, a satisfactory contractual template to accomplish this end is not provided in the course, admittedly by the author himself (after the sale)... and as you charge... no disclosure of this central issue is provided anywhere in OMP's promotional copy.

          Furthermore, I have communicated with the author specifically about this issue on his OMP Forum, via posts and PM's, however no contractual resolution has been offered... whereby I have no choice but to construct my own licensing contract to pursue this marketing opportunity (a probable deal-killer for most WSO buyers).

          Consequently, I shall promptly
          be contacting Admin at WF with appropriate and accurate documentation, prior to posting a more detailed WF review.

          I hope this proves helpful... and feel free to PM me if there is further interest to discuss this issue.

          Alan
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          • Profile picture of the author abrandt
            Hello Steve:

            I have tried PM'ing you on your OMP Forum... to no avail.

            Would appreciate that you contact me today ASAP, per my PM request.

            Alan
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
              Originally Posted by abrandt View Post

              Hello Steve:

              I have tried PM'ing you on your OMP Forum... to no avail.

              Would appreciate that you contact me today ASAP, per my PM request.

              Alan
              Alan,

              I'm not sure what else I need to do for you regarding the course. I have bent over backwards answering every single deep probing question that you asked, and yet you still haven't taken one step towards actually implementing the strategy. At least, that's what it seems.

              To me all I see is you doing is nit picking the course and putting a microscope to every single WORD trying to analyze it from every angle you possibly can.

              At first I was happy to have you on board because it seemed like you were going to be one of the actual action takers... I mean you even put together a brilliant mind map, but now you want me to start calling you on the phone and coaching you, and then when I don't answer one of your questions at the drop of a hat, you start PM'ing me and telling me that the support is terrible.

              Your main complaint is the supporting documentation that comes with the course and the lack of detail as it pertains to each state.... Look, I've already answered this in the OMP forum. This is a $97 course, not a $20,000 business plan. There is no way on earth that I can draft up a detailed contract for every person in every state. As it's been mentioned, my advice is to contact a lawyer if you really want to cover all the bases.

              I'm not sure what else you want for me to do for you. Are you going to take action with the course or are you just a critic?

              I will glady send you a refund if you're really this unhappy with everything...

              Thanks

              P.S. - You keep mentioning a WSO. I never ran a WSO for this other than the discount link in my signature.
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                • Profile picture of the author rmx
                  Alan

                  You have a problem with this product or the owner.

                  However I see other posts from people who like it.

                  Sometimes that happens.

                  Most of us have been on both sides of this kind of
                  situation as the owner or the customer. I've refunded customers
                  that needed more customer service than I could provide.
                  I've also been the customer and expected more than I
                  received, and asked for a refund.

                  He has offered you a refund but you want more. You want
                  the moderators to jump in and do something when the
                  product isn't even a WSO.

                  Why not accept the refund and move on and let it go?

                  RMX
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          • Profile picture of the author PaulusD
            Originally Posted by abrandt View Post


            Hello Paulus:

            I have purchased this WSO:
            Aug. 28, 2009 12:52:59 PDT
            PayPal Transaction ID: 4JT6802220607953P
            I noticed that your post has not been responded to by Steve Mount ... so I thought I would confirm your assertions for the benefit of all interested WF Members:


            You are correct. My background is similar to yours, having previously syndicated multiple private placement memorandums. Targeting mid-size companies, as recommended by the WSO author, can certainly involve sizable upfront fees and residuals... which is one of the primary selling points of the author (and he's right)... whereby a well-drafted contract shall be required vs. the incomplete "contract template" provided within the course itself, despite many representations that everything needed is provided for in the course. This would be very appealing were it accurate.

            Having read all OMP posts (reading between the lines) on WF and OMP, I have reason to believe that the author has likely utilized a well-drafted contract for his own (6) accounts, needed to support and protect his licensing financial interests... (as promotionally outlined within his WF posts and the OMP course itself).

            In my mind, the OMP concept is reasonably viable, however, a satisfactory contractual template to accomplish this end is not provided in the course, admittedly by the author himself (after the sale)... and as you charge... no disclosure of this central issue is provided anywhere in OMP's promotional copy.

            Furthermore, I have communicated with the author specifically about this issue on his OMP Forum, via posts and PM's, however no contractual resolution has been offered... whereby I have no choice but to construct my own licensing contract to pursue this marketing opportunity (a probable deal-killer for most WSO buyers).

            Consequently, I shall promptly be contacting Admin at WF with appropriate and accurate documentation, prior to posting a more detailed WF review.

            I hope this proves helpful... and feel free to PM me if there is further interest to discuss this issue.

            Alan
            I agree with you Alan, but Like a good recipe, Offline Marketing Pro is but a general guide and has to be taken as such. It may also not neccessarily be authored by the best chef... there being so many ingredients left out,but it is a good concept that properly applied COULD bring in results.
            That being said, there is nothing new here, there are many firms already specializing in what is taught in this course and then some....regardless of what anyone here says, does anyone beleive that there could actually be a NEW concept in marketing that NO ONE has EVER looked at ? That is the stuff suckers are made of.. What do you expect for 97$? It is the same as anything else that is sold online: LOTS and LOTS of hype. There are so many variables that people would have to focus on , in order to be successful with something like this, that this post or 100 of them, would not begin to cover it all... you have to have a background in sales and marketing and a whole sackload of resources in order to undertake a venture of this nature ... with little or no experience in this ,you are dead ,that is for sure. It is laughable... That is why WE ( people with backgrounds in finance, marketing etc.) are trying to make it online... to get out of the ratrace that the rats are winning.
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            • Profile picture of the author abrandt
              Originally Posted by PaulusD View Post

              I agree with you Alan, but Like a good recipe, Offline Marketing Pro is but a general guide and has to be taken as such. It may also not neccessarily be authored by the best chef... there being so many ingredients left out,but it is a good concept that properly applied COULD bring in results.

              That being said, there is nothing new here, there are many firms already specializing in what is taught in this course and then some....regardless of what anyone here says, does anyone beleive that there could actually be a NEW concept in marketing that NO ONE has EVER looked at ? That is the stuff suckers are made of.. What do you expect for 97$? It is the same as anything else that is sold online: LOTS and LOTS of hype. There are so many variables that people would have to focus on, in order to be successful with something like this, that this post or 100 of them, would not begin to cover it all...

              Hello Paulus:

              Appreciate your comments.

              Based upon our similar comments, I would suggest that this WSO is reasonably worth somewheres between $17 to $37 max... for what it delivers. If a well-heeled contract template were provided, it would certainly be worth the $94.

              I have chosen to pursue drafting a comprehensive LICENSING CONTRACT to enable target marketing to mid-size companies (sales volume $2M to $15M).

              I hope this proves helpful... sooner than later!

              Alan


              P.S. I would greatly appreciate any Members post or PM me who have successful licensing experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
      Hello all! I thought I should just stop by and drop a few lines here...

      Originally Posted by Jboxer View Post

      Offline Marketing is a thing of the past, for those who want a broader audience. It's nice to network locally but you dont have access to the billions of people that are online and looking for you..
      You don't have access to everyone, but you have EASY access to many. And local marketing is ESSENTIAL for "normal" small/medium businesses to succeed, so there will always be a market. (Maybe not always, as we might live in computers in 50 years:p)

      Originally Posted by scott_krech

      Sorry for all the questions, I know you're in the middle of launch and probably pulling your hair out, but..
      What hair :p

      Now back to the course...

      I've been talking quite a bit with Steve before the launch, and would first of all like to say that he is a great guy. Really. Flexible, hard-working and honest.

      He did not make this course to make an extra buck, he truly believes in it himself, and I would say for a good reason.

      This is not the same as all of the other "Offline Marketing" courses out there, and it's not a 12page WSO explaining how to set up an autoresponder.

      This is "business" offline marketing, meaning you can really build a "real" business around it, and live from it. Not only that, but you can make a serious and "visible" living. (Many people won't count IM as "visible" if anyone understand what I mean by that)

      Also, if you go through the entire course and do NOT take action, you have still learned a lot.

      The techniques and tips learned in the course is pretty "evergreen", meaning it will not get saturated, nor grow old.

      And I'm not talking about the actual main technique, but everything else you learn. You basically learn to build a business, and if you are a bit creative, it can be used anywhere, any time.

      Now, I live in Norway, so most of the resources outlined is pretty much useless to me, but we have the same kind of resources used, and the course teaches how to use them.

      As to how actionable the main technique itself is, it's not the easiest thing to do. It has a lot of income potential, but you need to work for it, especially in the beginning. But I believe it will get way easier when you land your first deal, and the amount of money you get is unbelievable.

      I personally haven't put the main thing to action yet, but I have been busy with other things, and I will probably give it a shot when I can, as it will make my life pretty easy when it works.

      I have talked with a few people to outsource to, and I have made a plan for it, so it might happen soon, depending on how much effort I put in. I'm working on another good deal now, which might just give me the guts I need to take massive action. We'll see

      Anyways, great course Steve. I hope it sells well, and that people will realize that it's "not just another offline manual" after reading my post. - It's a real business plan.

      I hope that helps all of you!

      Best Regards,
      - Preben
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    Hi Paul,

    Have you purchased the course? Let me know and then I'll be glad to talk with you further about any issues you may have about any investments involved.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
      Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan View Post

      If you think I would buy this after what has been said in this thread, I
      don't think so. Would you buy it?
      Well I'll tell ya Paul, the feeling is quite mutual. I'll be sure to bash your salesletters before seeing them when I get a chance.
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      • Profile picture of the author ronr
        I'll preface this by saying that I don't know Steve and have never
        bought anything from him before Online Marketing Pro.

        I think he has done a good job with this business plan. I've
        done a little bit with this concept in the past but ran into
        a few hurtles that stopped me from doing more with it.

        Thankfully Steve's plan has a few great twists in it that will
        help me overcome the things that have held me back from doing
        more. He also includes some his own templates and scripts which will
        speedup and simplify the process.

        He shows ways to do it if you have very little money or faster ways
        if you can invest more in the business.

        Funny how that applies to most businesses

        From his material, you can tell that he has really done this and
        comes across as a straight shooter.
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        • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
          Originally Posted by ronr View Post

          I'll preface this by saying that I don't know Steve and have never
          bought anything from him before Online Marketing Pro.

          I think he has done a good job with this business plan. I've
          done a little bit with this concept in the past but ran into
          a few hurtles that stopped me from doing more with it.

          Thankfully Steve's plan has a few great twists in it that will
          help me overcome the things that have held me back from doing
          more. He also includes some his own templates and scripts which will
          speedup and simplify the process.

          He shows ways to do it if you have very little money or faster ways
          if you can invest more in the business.

          Funny how that applies to most businesses

          From his material, you can tell that he has really done this and
          comes across as a straight shooter.
          Yes, he outlines a plan for a long-term real business, not just a technique you can use to make some quick cash.

          And that's why I like this course. I've used much of the business principals in the course, and applied it to my business. Now I'm working with a client with a $10,000 budget. (Not too much profits for me, but it's serious business, and not just a one-shot deal)
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      • Profile picture of the author abrandt
        Originally Posted by abrandt View Post

        09-16-2009, 11:23 AM
        Hello Steve:
        I have tried PM'ing you on your OMP Forum... to no avail.
        Would appreciate that you contact me today ASAP, per my PM request.
        Alan
        WSO purchase:
        Aug. 28, 2009 12:52:59 PDT

        PayPal Transaction ID: 4JT6802220607953P

        Hello Steve:

        Would appreciate the professional courtesy of a response...
        - PM (OMP Forum) - Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:22 pm
        - Post (WF Forum) - 09-16-2009, 11:23 AM

        No response to date.

        Alan
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  • Profile picture of the author madpoet
    I purchased it and I'll be honest... it's not what I was expecting. That's not a bad thing. Sometimes the unexpected can lead to some great new ideas. I'm going to take a bit to digest it, and then see what I can do with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    This thread is deteriorating into personal abuse. Let's stop things there.

    Pearson
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