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Any feedback ?...It looks good but as always ..How much traffic for conversions to get a $2197 sale....and should I go in at ascend$6995 or Rise 2197?

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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    It's MLM. You need to sign up to the big ticket items to be able to promote them.
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    • Profile picture of the author NigelPM
      so u mean Ascend?...$6995 otherwise if I go into low my budget will be exhausted in no time...maybe E1UP to start...thats a different market with a ceiling of $1000...thanks for your help!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    This is a high ticket affiliate platform similar to MOBE.

    you are asking how much traffic to make a Rise sale?

    That all depends on your traffic sources and your experience.

    Even if you were trying to get sales selling a clickbank product that retailed for $7.

    Your success will still depend on many different factors.

    It won't be any easier to sell one system / product or another.

    Your success will still come down to you going through the process (and sticking to it).
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Brindamour
    NigelPM,

    Digital Altitude is the real deal, very professional run, just check out Michael Force who created Digital Altitude, he has also surrounded himself with a lot of industry leaders. So the first thing you should look at when looking at a company is the leadership, theirs is squeaky clean.

    The next thing to look at is if is is popular, which it is. This indicates a good product or service.

    Lastly you should look to see if people are making money at it. Take a look at their public Facebook page, even brand new people are making money due to the combination of the coaching (that close sales for you) and the compensation plan (an ascension model).

    Now that being said, no matter what program you join it is going to take a lot of work on your part, there is no such thing as "push button profits". Your job is to learn how to generate targeted leads to plug into the system. You are going to have to be able to generated 50-100 leads per day if you want the chance to make any money. Also you will need to position yourself to maximize your profit potential.

    Hope this helps!

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnnyNight
      Originally Posted by Chris Brindamour View Post

      NigelPM,

      Digital Altitude is the real deal, very professional run, just check out Michael Force who created Digital Altitude, he has also surrounded himself with a lot of industry leaders. So the first thing you should look at when looking at a company is the leadership, theirs is squeaky clean.

      The next thing to look at is if is is popular, which it is. This indicates a good product or service.

      Lastly you should look to see if people are making money at it. Take a look at their public Facebook page, even brand new people are making money due to the combination of the coaching (that close sales for you) and the compensation plan (an ascension model).

      Now that being said, no matter what program you join it is going to take a lot of work on your part, there is no such thing as "push button profits". Your job is to learn how to generate targeted leads to plug into the system. You are going to have to be able to generated 50-100 leads per day if you want the chance to make any money. Also you will need to position yourself to maximize your profit potential.

      Hope this helps!

      Chris
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    All I need to see are the letters "MLM" and I turn and run away as fast as I can.

    I've tried a few in the past and while I was able to succeed with them, they all gave me a "sleazy" feeling.

    Whenever you're selling someone an "opportunity" to sell an "opportunity," it just doesn't seem sustainable.

    I don't care who runs an MLM and who they know and associate themselves with. A dressed up turd is still a turd.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Patel
      The thing to understand is if you don't like selling then you need a job.

      Even to get a job we have to sell ourselves.

      Amazon sells its product to people. People also become affiliate and sell amazon products to other people.

      So irrespective of what you do online whether it is your own product or someone else product you are still going to sell.

      Now the first thing to understand is that MLM is different than the current breed of High Ticket Affiliate Marketing products.

      In MLM you we as good as how high on the tree you were places.

      But not in the High Ticket Affiliate Marketing.

      In that you are always selling the same product you bought to other people. There is no tree. You are always selling to one person at a time.

      Only because you have already bought the product and used it which is mostly training you are better at selling those products.

      If you run away hearing the word MLM then you may be losing a lot of opportunities that were in front of you that could have benefitted you.

      We are in the online economy. If we do not understand the business of online then we cannot be successful in it.

      So open your eyes and don't run away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    If you have a lot of money to invest, like $50,000 and you can recruit a lot of people who also have $50K to invest then you can make a lot of money with DA.

    It's not technically a pyramid scheme because it does offer a "product" of sorts in the form of basic IM training. Everything else is "pay to play."

    If you can't afford the top level then anyone you recruit who upgrades will be lost to you and will go to the next person above you who has paid for the top level.

    It's constant high-pressure sales pitches, and by high-pressure, I mean suggesting people take out loans to upgrade and if you don't you are a loser and they won't have any time for you.

    If you don't have the $50K to play with I strongly suggest you stay away.

    If you really want to make money from this type of system, start your own. DA basically cloned MOBE and was even sued by MOBE for infringement, so we know it can be done.

    Have Fun!

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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    If you want a much better alternative that has a lower entry fee and is actually loaded with tons of value, look into Michael Cheney's "7 Figure Franchise." I know many marketers who are crushing it with that.

    I believe it's one payment of $1995 to get in. I've heard the training is insane and it's not an MLM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by NigelPM View Post

    Any comments welcome
    Nigel,

    Just two comments. First, having control of my business and income is important to me. I don't want to be "held hostage" by others whose businesses come and go and who can change the rules at any time. If DA were to close up shop (for whatever reason), what would you be left with? Would you income continue without interruption? Or would it come to a screeching halt? Many companies of this type that were seemingly doing very well ... collapsed almost over night for a variety of reasons.

    Second, my own personal experience as one who has been "pitched" dozens of times by family, co-workers, and friends on "income opportunities" leads me to believe that very, very few ever make it big in these opportunities. Sure, some have . . . but of all the people that have tried to recruit me, I don't know one that was still in the same business a year after getting started. I joined none of the programs. The attrition rate is mind boggling, especially if you're not at the top of the recruitment ladder.

    I know this is probably not what you want to hear . . . but it is the truth coming from someone that has listened to many friend's pitches - not because I wanted to - but because the people approaching me were friends or relatives.

    Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best!

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    • Profile picture of the author NigelPM
      Thanks Steve...my sponsors have been it for a while...I am such a tire kicker I am afraid I have followed them and their success with MOBE and DA...I have seen evidence of their wealth that is not flaunted..rather I have gone looking for it..They were in 800k debt from conventional biz and nearly lost everything..but clawed back and now they make 100k a month easy....what gets me though is the "Real Estate" "Or online presence"....unless you have that WAY BEFORE YOU BUY ANY BIG TICKET ITEM OR BURNING ALL YOUR CASH ON LEADS!!!...Sorry for yelling...but its the truth and I yell because I want to keep reminding myself that I will fail!....See I keep saying.."dont be so defeatist"....but it really is emotion over hard facts....unless you dont mind burning $$$$$$ for advertising....u will fail...See, there answered my own question!...thanks Guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    I kinda echo a lot from the other guys. Ive looked at DA and others like that. I just dont feel a motivational training type product is a real product. The opportunity to sell the opportunity pitch. yuk. On the other hand an mlm type compensation plan is interesting. And many people involved seem to be making good money. But the costs are too high for me. and then the pushy follow up sales guys turn my stomach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    MLM is difficult. Take a look at the usual marketing strategy. You have to go around and recruit people who aren't interested in anything, and try to turn them on to your $2,000+ opportunity. You'd be better off selling on Ebay. And honestly.... you dont need to spend $2,000+ to make $200,000+. Basic marketing knowledge is basic marketing knowledge. Good luck though. You're going to need it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HansDavid
    I don't get people who join these kinds of online MLM opps.

    What do you get exactly? A blogging platform? Lead capture pages? Some ebooks on marketing technique & motivation? You can get all that on retail for less than $1,000 every where else.

    I remember when Empower Network was in the trend. I laughed when I found out members had to pay $25 per month just to blog on a default platform that was completely not versatile.

    I mean, that basically meant their members paid $300 per year just to blog. I spend no more than a third of that amount & my blog used all premium themes & plugins.

    Really, I don't get it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    This AINT THE REAL DEAL NO MORE..
    Is anyone surprised by this?

    The funny part is, clones continue to appear.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    "six figures in 90 days or less."

    I see things like that in legal papers and wonder HOW do people fall for that?
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    I'm surprised
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