PayZeno and DigiProz 2

14 years ago

I am in the same boat.
Bought 2 sites from Digibizpro
I had never heard of Payzeno until now.
How`s it going with your sites?Have you made any sales/affiliates yet?

Annette.

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Craigd

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

I am in the same boat.
Bought 2 sites from Digibizpro
I had never heard of Payzeno until now.
How`s it going with your sites?Have you made any sales/affiliates yet?

Annette.

Hi Annette,

I just got my 2 sites today, so no I have not even broken them in yet. I still do not even have the ebooks. I need to go through the material first before I start promoting it. How is it going with you? What is your experience so far with your sites?

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Rebel53

14 years ago

G'day Craig d,

I purchased the Platinum Package (10 websites) when this first launched on 31-Oct-2009 but with support and communication problems, and the site building team using their domains instead of the ones I purchased from Godaddy and supplied, my sites were not up and running until 30-Nov-2009 and since that time, even though my sites were listed at Payzeno, I still have not aquired any affiliates to sell my products and even after promoting them myself all over the internet have still not made a sale to date.

I, also, had never heard of Payzeno until purchasing these sites and I am still unaware of who owns the site or how long they have been around or heard of how successful people have been using their service but was told registering products there involves no rego fee whereas Clickbank charges $50 and has a stringent product screening process before accepting it on their sites product list for affiliates and is why DigiBizPro used Payzeno.

Maybe Jamie Lewis is part owner of, or has interests in, Payzeno and gets two slices of the pie (so to speak) I don.t know ... good luck to him if he is ... never the less it would only be in his best interests to make the site successful wouldn't you think?

I do believe the sites have been professionally designed and built and look very good and I did think the niches could be popular and profitable (it's why I purchased them) but all our sites and niches (meaning everyone that purchased the websites) have been registered at Payzeno so we are all competing with each other for affiliates and all of our sites and ebooks are the same, or similar (even with our having the choice of two skins for our websites)

I have thought about registering my sites with the "More Well Known" Clickbank (hoping it's not $50 for each product) but then the payment processors and buttons on every site would have to be changed, or a Clickbank button added under the Payzeno button, and I am a bit worried about how long that would take, considering the amount of hassles I had getting them set up properly in the first place, and whether or not I would be any more successful getting affiliates to sell my products.

I guess at this stage, with no affiliates and no sales from Payzeno, I couldn't do any worse (except for the extra cost of registering them at Clickbank) and after investing over $1000 Aust Dollars I want to at least get that amount back to not be out of pocket.

Also, with no sales, the sites probably aren't getting much traffic (if any) so even if I decided to sell them I'm not confident the resale profits would be great for an unsuccessful website even if someone else bought them taking the risk that they may be able to make them more successful.

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this and whether or not you've had any success yourself with your sites or if you've heard of anyone else that has been ... I still have high hopes of making money with my sites, how about you? ... Iwill probably see how they go for 2 or 3 months in 2010 but if no good will think about selling them, are you of the same mind?

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Craigd

14 years ago

Hi Rebel,

I have been promoting and have not had any sales yet, but the traffic has not been too much either. I picked an over exposed niche and that was my bad. However, I have had no affiliates via PZeno, and none of the SEO work has been done by DBiz, as there promise, I am sure it will get done if I stay on top of them, it just has not been done yet.
I invested my time and money into the sites, I want them to produce.
As far as CBank, I am in the process of moving it over there. Its the #1 marketplace, and PZeno is just not producing, so what do I have to lose.
As far as selling the pages, nobody is going to pay for a page that is not selling and/or getting traffic, not when you can purchase a site that has both and a list for the same price... something I should have done instead, I just never discovered them until recently.

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Craigd

Hi Rebel,

I have been promoting and have not had any sales yet, but the traffic has not been too much either. I picked an over exposed niche and that was my bad. However, I have had no affiliates via PZeno, and none of the SEO work has been done by DBiz, as there promise, I am sure it will get done if I stay on top of them, it just has not been done yet.
I invested my time and money into the sites, I want them to produce.
As far as CBank, I am in the process of moving it over there. Its the #1 marketplace, and PZeno is just not producing, so what do I have to lose.
As far as selling the pages, nobody is going to pay for a page that is not selling and/or getting traffic, not when you can purchase a site that has both and a list for the same price... something I should have done instead, I just never discovered them until recently.

Hi CraigD,

We decided that complimentary SEO services would be a great addition to the DigiBizPro 1.0 launch. We announced this in November, after you signed up. Now if you have not had the work done as of yet, rest assured that you are in line.

You can also contact fulfillment for a status of your project anytime.

I would recommend recruiting affiliates as illustrated in the DBP video system, over self promotion. You could sign up a site with clickbank and it will sit there by itself until you recruit a few affiliates. No matter what marketplace or affiliate tracking you use, you need to recruit affiliates and they will drive the site for you.

Regarding selling sites, about a month ago I sent out an email in regards to what your sites are worth. Bottom line, they are worth twice as much as you paid for them if you are a business member, quadruple the value of what you paid for it if you are a premier member. This is if they do not have any affiliates or sales. I am curious to know if you received this email or any of the other emails that I broadcast to members. Please let me know.

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Jamie

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Craigd

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

Hi CraigD,

We decided that complimentary SEO services would be a great addition to the DigiBizPro 1.0 launch. We announced this in November, after you signed up. Now if you have not had the work done as of yet, rest assured that you are in line.

You can also contact fulfillment for a status of your project anytime.

I would recommend recruiting affiliates as illustrated in the DBP video system, over self promotion. You could sign up a site with clickbank and it will sit there by itself until you recruit a few affiliates. No matter what marketplace or affiliate tracking you use, you need to recruit affiliates and they will drive the site for you.

Regarding selling sites, about a month ago I sent out an email in regards to what your sites are worth. Bottom line, they are worth twice as much as you paid for them if you are a business member, quadruple the value of what you paid for it if you are a premier member. This is if they do not have any affiliates or sales. I am curious to know if you received this email or any of the other emails that I broadcast to members. Please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Jamie

Hey Jamie,

Yes, I got the email. And I have been in contact with fulfillment on several occasions. During the DB Launch a big selling point was that Digibiz was going to recruit affiliates for us and provide SEO. We are nearly in Feb. now, and DB has not held up its promise on neither of those items.

I have been trying to recruit affiliates on my own but
when I wrote fulfillment about AFF recruitment and SEO, they sent me a list of affiliate forums, and pretty much said go at it. And when I wrote back regarding DigiBiz saying they were going to do the recruitment, I never heard back. This is the typical bait and switch. And yes I feel pretty short changed.

As far as those KW's, work at home has 306MM results, not a good choice, I have done a lot of KW search to try an nail the smallest demographic possible in this niche, and its very tough...but not your fault, we pick the niches.
As far as what the sites are worth, I listed one of my sites for $400 on flippa and have not received 1 bid. I dont know why someone would pay 2x what we paid for it if its not generating income, when they can buy a site that is. I think your estimates for what your sites are worth is over-estimated.

Overall, I am not going to make this a DB bashing post. But if you want testimonials you need to deliver what you promised, and so far you have not.

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Craigd

Hey Jamie,

Yes, I got the email. And I have been in contact with fulfillment on several occasions. During the DB Launch a big selling point was that Digibiz was going to recruit affiliates for us and provide SEO. We are nearly in Feb. now, and DB has not held up its promise on neither of those items.

I have been trying to recruit affiliates on my own but
when I wrote fulfillment about AFF recruitment and SEO, they sent me a list of affiliate forums, and pretty much said go at it. And when I wrote back regarding DigiBiz saying they were going to do the recruitment, I never heard back. This is the typical bait and switch. And yes I feel pretty short changed.

As far as those KW's, work at home has 306MM results, not a good choice, I have done a lot of KW search to try an nail the smallest demographic possible in this niche, and its very tough...but not your fault, we pick the niches.
As far as what the sites are worth, I listed one of my sites for $400 on flippa and have not received 1 bid. I dont know why someone would pay 2x what we paid for it if its not generating income, when they can buy a site that is. I think your estimates for what your sites are worth is over-estimated.

Overall, I am not going to make this a DB bashing post. But if you want testimonials you need to deliver what you promised, and so far you have not.

Hi Craig,

Stop emailing fulfillment and do what I am telling you to do in the recruitment videos!

Without acting on my instruction you are where I was 5 years ago. Learning how to do it myself. I am here to do everything for you, but I doubt you want me making connections with affiliates for you and keeping you out of the loop. This is just funny.

You are in an incredible position, but you must act on my advice because I have been doing this a LONG FREAKING TIME and don't just post a site up for sale once. Post it up, make sure that you are portraying actual benefits of ownership and adjust the price. Promote the auction on a classified ads website. You need to make sure your auction is enticing and you must believe in what you are selling. If you have a negative attitude and skepticism with everything you do online, your potential buyers will see this and NOT BUY.

Our main "selling point" is that we build websites for you and then plug them into a marketplace for you. We do 99% of the work for you but you must follow the instructions, and hit the gas pedal my good friend. The car wont drive itself.

However, once it gets going, you can hit cruise control, but you should still steer the wheel.

Ignite the flame with us.

We do not advertise SEO services or recruitment on our sales page. We advertise building the site for you, showing you how to recruit affiliates and other strategies. We also plug in the affiliate tracking and marketplace. We do not own the marketplace so we cannot control your exact results.

The SEO and recruitment services are something we added after we launched 1.0 because you guys were requesting it. It takes time to do this amount of work and this does not mean that you can't send a couple emails out and recruit which I have always recommended.

Regarding your niche, this is mainstream affiliate marketing. There is a ton of potential and it's all there in the Google keyword tool. Thousands of keywords where if the niche was smaller, you would have less options. Some keywords for your niche are less competitive than others, but this is for your affiliates to worry about.

The moral of the story, if you are going to put in work, do work that will sustain itself. (recruitment) Working smart is a must in addition to working hard. I hope this will encourage you as a member of my site and please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

Jamie

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Craigd

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

Hi Craig,

Stop emailing fulfillment and do what I am telling you to do in the recruitment videos!

Without acting on my instruction you are where I was 5 years ago. Learning how to do it myself. I am here to do everything for you, but I doubt you want me making connections with affiliates for you and keeping you out of the loop. This is just funny.

You are in an incredible position, but you must act on my advice because I have been doing this a LONG FREAKING TIME and don't just post a site up for sale once. Post it up, make sure that you are portraying actual benefits of ownership and adjust the price. Promote the auction on a classified ads website. You need to make sure your auction is enticing and you must believe in what you are selling. If you have a negative attitude and skepticism with everything you do online, your potential buyers will see this and NOT BUY.

Our main "selling point" is that we build websites for you and then plug them into a marketplace for you. We do 99% of the work for you but you must follow the instructions, and hit the gas pedal my good friend. The car wont drive itself.

However, once it gets going, you can hit cruise control, but you should still steer the wheel.

Ignite the flame with us.

We do not advertise SEO services or recruitment on our sales page. We advertise building the site for you, showing you how to recruit affiliates and other strategies. We also plug in the affiliate tracking and marketplace. We do not own the marketplace so we cannot control your exact results.

The SEO and recruitment services are something we added after we launched 1.0 because you guys were requesting it. It takes time to do this amount of work and this does not mean that you can't send a couple emails out and recruit which I have always recommended.

Regarding your niche, this is mainstream affiliate marketing. There is a ton of potential and it's all there in the Google keyword tool. Thousands of keywords where if the niche was smaller, you would have less options. Some keywords for your niche are less competitive than others, but this is for your affiliates to worry about.

The moral of the story, if you are going to put in work, do work that will sustain itself. (recruitment) Working smart is a must in addition to working hard. I hope this will encourage you as a member of my site and please let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

Jamie

I think your misunderstanding my post, I have been using the techniques in your videos to recruit affiliates, and have been promoting, not letting it sit there. And I know the aff recruitment and seo was not on the sales page, you stated that verbally in your video

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Craigd

I think your misunderstanding my post, I have been using the techniques in your videos to recruit affiliates, and have been promoting, not letting it sit there. And I know the aff recruitment and seo was not on the sales page, you stated that verbally in your video

Hi Craig,

No matter what we do on our end as far as recruitment and SEO, the most potent result will come from relationships you make with your email address or your telephone personally, site owner to affiliate. If you run into a snag while operating, come back to this thread and I will answer your question. I would rather help you out then argue with you.

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101millionAds

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

Hi Craig,

No matter what we do on our end as far as recruitment and SEO, the most potent result will come from relationships you make with your email address or your telephone personally, site owner to affiliate. If you run into a snag while operating, come back to this thread and I will answer your question. I would rather help you out then argue with you.

Thanks man,

Jamie

Ok Jamie.

Then you might give me some help.
My website www.shareyoursuccessonline.info ranks well and i get affiliate singups every day but no sales.

I am not a webdesigner and since my site gets bad feedback i most certainly need a "page makeover" of the entire sales copy to get people interested in buying.

And i don`t have any banners except 1 BIG on my affiliate page.

I also ask for my websites domaing being transfered to my Bluehost.com account so i can fix my ebook errors and add a Aweber form to my pages.

Can you and your staff help me with this?

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I hate to break it to you folks, but no affiliate with half a clue is going to promote those crappy websites. You got screwed, imho. Better to accept it now, and move on to creating some sites that have a chance in hell of selling something than to waste more time promoting this junk. Harsh yes, and I feel for you, but that's reality. I can't believe anyone would pimp that kind of crap to people.

As far as what the sites are worth, I listed one of my sites for $400 on flippa and have not received 1 bid.

Of course it hasn't. Have you seen these sites? Would you pay $400 for them? Ask Jamie if he'll pay you $400 for it, lol.

The sites DBP creates are money making machines!

Right....and bigfoot really DOES exist, lol.
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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

Ok Jamie.

Then you might give me some help.
My website www.shareyoursuccessonline.info ranks well and i get affiliate singups every day but no sales.

I am not a webdesigner and since my site gets bad feedback i most certainly need a "page makeover" of the entire sales copy to get people interested in buying.

And i don`t have any banners except 1 BIG on my affiliate page.

I also ask for my websites domaing being transfered to my Bluehost.com account so i can fix my ebook errors and add a Aweber form to my pages.

Can you and your staff help me with this?

Sure thing! PM me with your info.

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101millionAds

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rebel53

G'day Craig d,

I purchased the Platinum Package (10 websites) when this first launched on 31-Oct-2009 but with support and communication problems, and the site building team using their domains instead of the ones I purchased from Godaddy and supplied, my sites were not up and running until 30-Nov-2009 and since that time, even though my sites were listed at Payzeno, I still have not aquired any affiliates to sell my products and even after promoting them myself all over the internet have still not made a sale to date.

I, also, had never heard of Payzeno until purchasing these sites and I am still unaware of who owns the site or how long they have been around or heard of how successful people have been using their service but was told registering products there involves no rego fee whereas Clickbank charges $50 and has a stringent product screening process before accepting it on their sites product list for affiliates and is why DigiBizPro used Payzeno.

Maybe Jamie Lewis is part owner of, or has interests in, Payzeno and gets two slices of the pie (so to speak) I don.t know ... good luck to him if he is ... never the less it would only be in his best interests to make the site successful wouldn't you think?

I do believe the sites have been professionally designed and built and look very good and I did think the niches could be popular and profitable (it's why I purchased them) but all our sites and niches (meaning everyone that purchased the websites) have been registered at Payzeno so we are all competing with each other for affiliates and all of our sites and ebooks are the same, or similar (even with our having the choice of two skins for our websites)

I have thought about registering my sites with the "More Well Known" Clickbank (hoping it's not $50 for each product) but then the payment processors and buttons on every site would have to be changed, or a Clickbank button added under the Payzeno button, and I am a bit worried about how long that would take, considering the amount of hassles I had getting them set up properly in the first place, and whether or not I would be any more successful getting affiliates to sell my products.

I guess at this stage, with no affiliates and no sales from Payzeno, I couldn't do any worse (except for the extra cost of registering them at Clickbank) and after investing over $1000 Aust Dollars I want to at least get that amount back to not be out of pocket.

Also, with no sales, the sites probably aren't getting much traffic (if any) so even if I decided to sell them I'm not confident the resale profits would be great for an unsuccessful website even if someone else bought them taking the risk that they may be able to make them more successful.

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this and whether or not you've had any success yourself with your sites or if you've heard of anyone else that has been ... I still have high hopes of making money with my sites, how about you? ... Iwill probably see how they go for 2 or 3 months in 2010 but if no good will think about selling them, are you of the same mind?

Hey!

It has been a while since my last reply on this treat and in the meentime i have been promoting my 2 Digibizpro sites with no result so far.

I have collected about 100 affiliates and one of my sites are number 3 on Google for "Make Money Club"

I have done everything i can but has Jamie Lewis done his part?NO,NO,NO

The entire prosess getting my websites where a mess and they did not install the sites on my own domains as requested.I got my sites on their domains instead.

The ebook for Make Money Online contains huge misspellings and html coding in the middle of the content

And they can`t get their ass up and fix it for me.

Now...If we haven`t made any sales yet-why is Jamie annoncing a new round of websites to us already when we have earned $0 so far.

A complede jerk and a big liar-That`s what he is and he bought a new house for the money we spent on the first launch of his"fantastic Digibizpro

Sell your sites and get out of the mess.

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Craigd

14 years ago

Hi,

Thats great that you have your page at #3, and your still not making any sales at all? Its hard to believe, and with 100 affiliates.
I checked out your pages/blogs they look great
I moved my page over to clickbank, and am getting traffic now but no sales.

how did you get up to #3 in google, and how did you recruit your affiliates?

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

Hey!

It has been a while since my last reply on this treat and in the meentime i have been promoting my 2 Digibizpro sites with no result so far.

I have collected about 100 affiliates and one of my sites are number 3 on Google for "Make Money Club"

I have done everything i can but has Jamie Lewis done his part?NO,NO,NO

The entire prosess getting my websites where a mess and they did not install the sites on my own domains as requested.I got my sites on their domains instead.

The ebook for Make Money Online contains huge misspellings and html coding in the middle of the content

And they can`t get their ass up and fix it for me.

Now...If we haven`t made any sales yet-why is Jamie annoncing a new round of websites to us already when we have earned $0 so far.

A complede jerk and a big liar-That`s what he is and he bought a new house for the money we spent on the first launch of his"fantastic Digibizpro

Sell your sites and get out of the mess.

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101millionAds

14 years ago

Hi CraigD.

I just checked my account today and still no earnings but i now have 110 affiliates.
The way i got my site on page 1 so fast was to give my website high pagerank links as fast as possible.
It got indexed by Google in just 5 days because of that and i also wrote a pressrelease that was on first page before my site.

Whenever you start a new website,focus on getting as much links as possible right away and Google will award your site and index it in a snap

My affiliates signs up with me doing nothing more that keeping my position on Google.

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Whats up guys!

We are going to be releasing DigiBizPro 2.0 any minute. I stopped by the forum because I am looking for reviews of the new system from current 1.0 members.

1.0 members will receive this amazing upgrade. Basically, it is everything you received with 1.0 except with tons of added features and an entirely new system: It's all automated, sites instantly created and every sales page is UNIQUE from the start. You can edit everything from the control panel and you can install Aweber and more.

Check out the video here:

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

The sites DBP creates are money making machines! I am sure you will agree. Please feel free to let me know what you think of the video presentation and stand by for your access to the system.

Also, I want to know if everyone is receiving my email broadcasts as I do them almost weekly and they are jam packed with recruitment strategies and updates. Let me know!

Jamie

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101millionAds

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

Whats up guys!

We are going to be releasing DigiBizPro 2.0 any minute. I stopped by the forum because I am looking for reviews of the new system from current 1.0 members.

1.0 members will receive this amazing upgrade. Basically, it is everything you received with 1.0 except with tons of added features and an entirely new system: It's all automated, sites instantly created and every sales page is UNIQUE from the start. You can edit everything from the control panel and you can install Aweber and more.

Check out the video here: YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

The sites DBP creates are money making machines! I am sure you will agree. Please feel free to let me know what you think of the video presentation and stand by for your access to the system.

Also, I want to know if everyone is receiving my email broadcasts as I do them almost weekly and they are jam packed with recruitment strategies and updates. Let me know!

Jamie

You really have guts coming in here and advertising more of your Digibizpro.
Where are you manners boy?

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Jamie Lewis 14 years ago

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

You really have guts coming in here and advertising more of your Digibizpro.
Where are you manners boy?

Wow, holy moly.

All 1.0 members receive 2.0 on the house.

You usually need to be selling something for it to be that type of an advertisement.
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chayil

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

Whats up guys!

We are going to be releasing DigiBizPro 2.0 any minute. I stopped by the forum because I am looking for reviews of the new system from current 1.0 members.

1.0 members will receive this amazing upgrade. Basically, it is everything you received with 1.0 except with tons of added features and an entirely new system: It's all automated, sites instantly created and every sales page is UNIQUE from the start. You can edit everything from the control panel and you can install Aweber and more.

Check out the video here: YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

The sites DBP creates are money making machines! I am sure you will agree. Please feel free to let me know what you think of the video presentation and stand by for your access to the system.

Also, I want to know if everyone is receiving my email broadcasts as I do them almost weekly and they are jam packed with recruitment strategies and updates. Let me know!

Jamie

Jamie...

Are we able to edit the existing sales page of version 1.0 with the version 2 upgrade??

As for selling the sites....i did get your email on the estimated costs. Are those cost based on sites with traffic/sales?? It seems tough to sell it double what we paid without traffic/sales. Even at flippa, i think there's a listing charge of $19. And i took a brief look at what others are selling....sites priced even below $100 didn't have any bids. Sites of higher quality, with traffic/sales have some bids. Before selling the sites, i would have already incurred a list charge. How do you expect us to sell the sites(version 1.0 - lower quaity) unless we can change some of the content in it. Btw how do we check the traffic stats of our sites?

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by chayil

Jamie...

Are we able to edit the existing sales page of version 1.0 with the version 2 upgrade??

As for selling the sites....i did get your email on the estimated costs. Are those cost based on sites with traffic/sales?? It seems tough to sell it double what we paid without traffic/sales. Even at flippa, i think there's a listing charge of $19. And i took a brief look at what others are selling....sites priced even below $100 didn't have any bids. Sites of higher quality, with traffic/sales have some bids. Before selling the sites, i would have already incurred a list charge. How do you expect us to sell the sites(version 1.0 - lower quaity) unless we can change some of the content in it. Btw how do we check the traffic stats of our sites?

Hi Chayil!

$75 to $450.

Now if it makes money, multiply what it makes every month times twelve and add that to the $450 or so (recommended)

Now if you edit your site and add videos, a forum for members, testimonials, and more, you can sell it for much more.

Regarding 2.0 access, they are two totally separate systems. You wont be able to edit your 1.0 sites using the 2.0 editor. The copywriting system and niches are totally different. Since it is so awesome we felt it would be great to offer it to 1.0 members.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

Hi CraigD.

I just checked my account today and still no earnings but i now have 110 affiliates.
The way i got my site on page 1 so fast was to give my website high pagerank links as fast as possible.
It got indexed by Google in just 5 days because of that and i also wrote a pressrelease that was on first page before my site.

Whenever you start a new website,focus on getting as much links as possible right away and Google will award your site and index it in a snap

My affiliates signs up with me doing nothing more that keeping my position on Google.

Hi 101!

For your make money club niche, the best queries to target are keywords that people search, including "work at home" and "make money online."

"make money club" as a keyword does not get alot of traffic as no one uses that keyword.

Recruit affiliates! Also, make sure that you are building your list! Once you have a sizable list you can affiliate other offers and reciprocate when someone promotes you as well.

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101millionAds

14 years ago

Hi Jamie.

When you start a brand new website you normally don`t aim for the biggest keywords like "Make Money Online" unless you`re crazy.

My website is promoted basically everywhere like-Free Classified-Free Pressrelease-Ezine Articles-my website(before i got the negative feedback)-A lot of forum signatures and Google.

The "make money club" has 1000 searches per month.

This haven`t made me 1 sale so far.

My Make Money Online ebook containg huge errors inside the chapters and the support team did not understand the problem so my ebook is still full of html coding that i can`t remove myself.

And my 2 websites witch i started promoting with Google Adwords at the beginning got my Adwords account disabled after running my first real campaign.

The reason i was told was that the site and product didn`t meet the required standards and they closed my account.

Sorry about this Jamie Lewis but i am only telling my side of the story and i am very disapointed so far.

Annette.

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advancednoob

14 years ago

Hi guys,
I decided to make an account to mention this product, but looks like there's plenty of discussion as it is!
I have purchased another one of Jamie's products in the past too - CopynProfit - and decided to give this a go. To be honest, I was getting spammed like crazy with Copynprofit too, but in the last 2 months it looks like someone else took over CopynProfit and I've just been getting very good solid content based emails with maybe 1 promotion in the entire month. Doing some research I found out that Jamie had indeed sold the site on Flippa for nearly $238,000 - that's the figure that he showed on the sales page for Digibiz Pro.
It was also clear looking at the testimonials that they were all reading a script, but I jumped in regardless.
The sites themselves are abysmal - NO ONE - absolutely no one will promote them - and they are all cookie-cutter! We have been had my friends - he's re-sold the same (or very similar looking) sites over and over to all of us and made millions in the process!
Nex,t the SEO - he keeps talking about SEO over and over but NONE of his sites have an ounce of SEO work done, nor do any of the sites he's sold in the package to me.
From the guy who took over CopynProfit (some indian name I forget), I got some emails that taught a bit of basic SEO and it looks to be pretty straightforward stuff. I've gotten more value from those free videos than the entire Digibiz package, which is extremely sad!

Regarding getting affiliates - there is NO way someone like me just starting online can get affiliates from scratch with these sites. But if I DO put in all the effort myself to get the affiliates, why did they advertise that they would get the affiliates for the sites on their sales page?

overall:
Sites --- ridiculously bad.
Affiliates --- none. I have to do all the work anyway.
SEO --- there is none and absolutely NO site advertised by Jamie has SEO done, but all of them claim to teach you SEO. For example, look at copytheblueprint or whatever it is called, profitmiracle, digibizpro, or any of the sites built for digibizpro buyers - they have ZERO SEO.

Note that I'm not saying anything against Jamie as a person, only analyzing all of these products - most importantly digibizpro. The conclusions you draw from this are yours alone. I'm aware that bashing people is against the forum rules, and I hope the mods will see that I have not said anything against the personhood of Jamie Lewis.

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Jamie Lewis

14 years ago

AdvancedNoob, you are so aware of your Ill Intentions that even at the end of your post you acknowledge the forum rules of no personal bashing allowed.

My complimentary gift of bookmarking and affiliate recruitment posts is somehow a violation of my sales page promise, and my partner with CopyNProfit outdoes his own company? LMAO! The concept that there is more value in an SEO email update than the content of all sites combined, let alone the ENTIRE video library is gut wrenchingly hilarious.

If you do not want your rep to work on your site, let us know and we do not have to. Ask us for a different setup and we will oblige. That is the great thing about having OPTIONS.

As a member you have all of the raw elements of your sites and access to everything I put out under DigiBizPro including 2.0. You have full FTP access and there should be no issue there as well since we supply you with phone support, coaching and you did have 30 days to refund. You can still engage me in discussion right here as I don't consider it any different than speaking with you in person.

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Right....and bigfoot really DOES exist, lol.

BlueFart, Ill take a DigiBizPro 2.0 website and make you a million dollars.

Have you even seen a 2.0 membership? I don't think so.

101 could easily make friends and engage in reciprocal blasts period.

I wont at this point, but I am sure there are a few hundred CB vendors with 10 gravity who would if the relationship was built.

Let's see one of your websites and sales funnels, I would love to experience this.

Bottom line, relationships and reciprocal promotion is how the world goes round and I will be the first to tell you that it works, and would work for 101MillionAds but I also believe in branding. Even though my sites have been promoted by everyone under the sun for 5 long years and being driven by affiliates has attributed to the high alexas and all that, I still encourage building a strong brand and business, and thats what we show you how to do at DigiBizPro. The work you put in sustains itself.

Have a nice day Charlie, (The forum does not allow me to reference you by name I.E: Bluefart)

Jamie

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advancednoob

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

AdvancedNoob, you are so aware of your Ill Intentions that even at the end of your post you acknowledge the forum rules of no personal bashing allowed.

My complimentary gift of bookmarking and affiliate recruitment posts is somehow a violation of my sales page promise, and my partner with CopyNProfit outdoes his own company? LMAO! The concept that there is more value in an SEO email update than the content of all sites combined, let alone the ENTIRE video library is gut wrenchingly hilarious.

Jamie

I wrote that in there to be clear that I'm not attacking you as a person. It is clear that I think the product itself is not up to par.

So you say that the owner of Copy N Profit is your partner and is your own company?? THat's VERY fishy indeed. Because you sold the site on Flippa a few months back and you even showed the screenshot on DigiBiz sales page showing that you made $240,000 by selling a site.
So if you just sold the site to your own company, then the whole thing in the sales letter was CLEARLY not true. You purchased a site from yourself on Flippa and showed that as income! Does anyone else see a problem with this???
Also, I'm inclined to not believe the idea that he's your partner since the nature of emails, the style...everything is different, also the company sign off in the emails is different - it used to be Champ and now it is J & H Marketing.

I don't know, it all sounds very fishy - either you sold yourself a site and showed that as income, OR you're claiming your company owns the site when it doesn't. Please clarify - I'm just asking the questions.

Also - I did not say that the value of that one tutorial is more than the entire Digibiz or CNP course. I'm saying that in terms of SEO ONLY that one free video taught more than the entire CNP and Digibiz course.

Please just clarify - I'm not in here to pick unnecessary arguments. I just want to know!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by advancednoob

I wrote that in there to be clear that I'm not attacking you as a person. It is clear that I think the product itself is not up to par.

So you say that the owner of Copy N Profit is your partner and is your own company?? THat's VERY fishy indeed. Because you sold the site on Flippa a few months back and you even showed the screenshot on DigiBiz sales page showing that you made $240,000 by selling a site.
So if you just sold the site to your own company, then the whole thing in the sales letter was CLEARLY not true. You purchased a site from yourself on Flippa and showed that as income! Does anyone else see a problem with this???
Also, I'm inclined to not believe the idea that he's your partner since the nature of emails, the style...everything is different, also the company sign off in the emails is different - it used to be Champ and now it is J & H Marketing.

I don't know, it all sounds very fishy - either you sold yourself a site and showed that as income, OR you're claiming your company owns the site when it doesn't. Please clarify - I'm just asking the questions.

Also - I did not say that the value of that one tutorial is more than the entire Digibiz or CNP course. I'm saying that in terms of SEO ONLY that one free video taught more than the entire CNP and Digibiz course.

Please just clarify - I'm not in here to pick unnecessary arguments. I just want to know!

Why on earth in your 2nd post are you chasing your own tail on this and picking fights with people you do not know.

Ok, so.. First, I am "selling the site to my own company" and that is "VERY fishy indeed"

Then, Wait, you do not believe this though because the "nature of emails are different" and the company name is different!"

You need to make up your mind bro, obviously you are fabricating different scenarios that contradict each other.

You answered your own question. No, I am not the boogeyman.

Everyone and their mother saw the auction take place in realtime.

The auction should still be accessible on Flippa, go see for yourself.

And regarding my use of the word "company" that is referencing the site I sold him and his company which bought out my intellectual property. I am now good friends and partners with the owner of CNP as I am with most of my site buyers. I also provide powerful resources to my site buyers as well. This is a well known brand I created.

A little word of advice, the conspiracy theory you pull out of the ground SHOULD MAKE SENSE.

Now I am at a disadvantage, I have made everything about my business totally transparent to you. What is your business? Care to share?

Sincerely,

Jamie Lewis

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jenievieve 14 years ago

This message is for Jamie Lewis:

I received an email message on January 27/10, re: "Here is your access to Digibizpro 2.0." This was supposed to be accordingly a "free DigiBizPro 1.0 upgrade."

4 days ago, I sent an email to your support@digibizpro dept., and have not received a reply to date. Since I cannot contact you via Skype (I don't have the mobile devices to do so), I decided that maybe I should post a copy of that message here in the hope that maybe you can reply to it yourself.

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"I saved to read at more convenient time a copy of the "Terms
and Conditions" on the Free Digibizpro Upgrade 2.0 Upgrade page ->
members section account setup -> Do you agree to the terms and
conditions above?

According to the "terms and conditions," "upon registration," I will
be 'granting' you "permission to charge" my..."credit card $497
for a business members or $1497 for a premier membership," according
to "terms and conditions" # 7A and # 8.

Whereas the hosting charges are maintained by you for the two original
websites for one year as agreed, an upgrade to 2.0 enlists charges for
hosting according to "terms and conditions" # 24. And in # 25, the
hosting services mentioned are not "GoDaddy" as with the first two
websites, but "Hostgator," requiring therefore another commitment.

I am not entirely clear on precisely what portion of the upgrade to
2.0 is classified as "free." I would be very much obliged if you would
be so kind as to explain. To say "Yes" to the "terms and conditions"
does not exclude any of the above costs, nor does it imply in any
statement therein that an alternate arrangement or agreement would
exempt us from said obligations or costs.

In view of the above, if understood correctly, it appears we cannot
afford an upgrade, albeit even at a later date, should it be the case
that the costs are waivered only now for a period of time.

Having said this, it's best then, that we leave the two websites as
they are. We cannot afford to undertake additional hosting charges or
more costs associated with the management of more than the two
websites according to the original business agreement.

We will try to follow up on your suggestion of signing up with some
Forums in order to draw affiliates. I really must say though that, at
this point, we're somewhat disappointed at the fact that there have
been no earnings reported as of this date for either of the two
websites.

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  Hi Jenievieve,
  
  Hows it going?
  
  Yes, if you purchased 1.0 you are an automatic 2.0 member as well. So if that is the case, best of luck using 2.0! It looks like we would be hosting for you on the house as well. Just pick up a domain name and you are good to go.
  
  We have waived the $497 for all 1.0 members.
  
  We sent you an email bypassing the payment process ($497, etc) so you can utilize 2.0 if you wish to do so.
  
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advancednoob

14 years ago

jenievieve :
That is known as bait and switch - they promise you something, it all looks like something, then you later find some fine print saying almost the complete opposite. I think you should complain to the FTC or someone since this is completely against the guidelines they have.

Also, even if the product owner/company responsible has stated that this will be free here, I would suggest not agreeing or taking some action to protect your CC being charged unless it is made part of the official agreement you agreed to. They could always claim that you agreed to the TOS and therefor are being charged.

I do agree though...hard to see the 'free' part of it, right? Kind of like how it's hard to see how the sites are unique or how they got you affiliates for the sites? or how you received a unique product?

Hopefully Jamie will correct all this - he seems responsive enough here...

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AdvancedNoob, your title fits you well. LOL

Perhaps you need to read between the lines a bit. This member had expressed "I am not entirely clear on precisely what portion of the upgrade to 2.0 is classified as "free."

Let me make this entirely clear to you and others ok?

If you are a 1.0 member we upgrade you to 2.0 for free.

As I have previously explained, the membership fee to 2.0 is waived and our hosting is free.

Can you confirm that this concept registers?

I think that I have made myself clear more than 3 times during this thread that our terms of service applies to our customers. If you are already a customer, yes, those terms applied to you months ago when you bought it. We did not send members like Jeneivieve an email that said "Sign up for 2.0 now that you have 1.0! It will cost you $497 again!"

We sent members an email that states "SINCE YOU ARE A 1.0 MEMBER, HERE YOU GO."

And it is the easiest thing in the world to sign up for it. No credit card needed and we do not do recurring charges.

You have already started the car

You have already bust your load.

You are already at the party.

Picture yourself at a restaurant..

You read the menu, choose what you would like to eat and for what price and then you do so.
At the end of the meal, the Chef cooks something entirely new and offers it to you and in doing so; explains that it is on the house and it is free of charge. (usually $497.)

Would you accuse the restaurant of bait & switch?

No! But the terms say it costs $497! OMG! This is bait & switch! Call the cops! LMAO!

Yes, our terms state how much the offer costs, but we are not charging you these fees because you are already a customer.

It would be great to hear from Jeneivieve as well. This is interesting.

I am sorry to have had to be the bearer of good news but I suggest you, like other warriors do some research before jumping to conclusions. Your accusations like many others here are so distorted and convoluted it is to the point where you would be better off asking questions if you are really interested in making money online.

I am sure many would agree.

But I am sure that this is more than enough information on this as I have beaten this subject into the ground, so excuse me while I feed my dog.

Good night.
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- doram 14 years ago
  
  I would just like to make comment.I have bought and paid $650nz for a similar type product(nothing to with Jamie Lewis) and it rates real bad,full of missing tags and faults but the creators of that product are nowhere to be seen
  At least Jamie fronts up.Okay,he is doing his PR and defending himself and his product.Regardless of what you think about what he's say's,regardless that you may think his product is crap and what he's says is opposite to what you feel,you are at least able to air your feelings and get some response even if it is not the response you want.
  I and others would love to be able to say how we feel about products we bought and say how disappointed we are and get some response or reaction from the product creators.
  So be thankful,he is at least fronting up and you appear to be getting a free and better upgrade.That is more than what most disillusioned,disappointed buyers are getting.Good or bad.
  
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  Thanks for the kind words Doram.
  
  I frequent these threads daily. If you have any questions or just want some killer concepts that make money online, feel free to ask. Ive got your back.
  
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pearsonbrown

14 years ago

I'm having enormous problems moderating this thread as it's unclear to me what the problem is.

The question seems to be over the free upgrade from version 1 to version 2 - and the product owner seems to have answered that satisfactorily.

If there is a further problem, and if it is a problem suitable for this REVIEWS forum, please state what it is, clearly and simply.

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advancednoob 14 years ago

Hi Pearson,

I'll try to state things clearly:

1. DigibizPro as a product was sold with 3 claims:
- the sites given to the members would be unique (they were NOT).
- the sites would be optimized for the search engines (they were not, and from all of Jamie's work it looks like he does not actually know about SEO - meaning this is a false claim).
- Jamie and his team would recruit affiliates and help the buyer's websites start making auto-pilot income. This never happened either, the websites were just plugged into an affiliate marketplace.

2. A Digibizpro 2.0 upgrade is now being offered that is claimed to be free.
- it is a 'free' upgrade in name only - you become a 2.0 member, but that doesn't mean anything because there is absolutely no difference that can be seen.
- before you can upgrade, you are required to sign a statement saying that you will be charged for this free upgrade in the future and should be prepared to pay for it. That, I think is clear, is the opposite of FREE. Hence, this is also false advertising.
- At this point, while Jamie claims it's a free upgrade, in reality he is requiring all members to sign a document saying that they will pay in the future for this 'upgrade'...this is quite clearly deceptive.

These are, at least to me, the primary issues being raised. In addition mr. Lewis has been rather off-topic in attempts to discredit my questions by labeling me a conspiracy theorist and what not. Don't know if it makes a difference since I'm new and he's a product vendor - I would hope not.
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Adamonation92 14 years ago

Now i was just reading this thread and was actually getting quite interested.

First off, i have bought one of Jamie's products before and i will admit the sales copy on his sales page is amazing, and honestly i had higher expectations than what the product had to offer. So i do understand why you would say that he is making false claims (although he's really not)

However it was still a great product that i still use to this day for niche research and making articles.

However on all of his products he offers a 30 day no questions asked money back guarantee. Why wouldn't you just request a refund like a gentleman and drop it. It's your responsibility for buying it, and if it doesn't meet your expectations than do something about it. There's no need to slam a product owner for this.
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pearsonbrown

14 years ago

I think everybody should just calm down at this point.

Both sides have put up strong, well-argued cases. It's clear that there is no agreement in sight.

I'm going to close the thread temporarily to let everything cool off. I'll reopen it at the start of March.

Pearson

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