7FigureCode? Anyone ever used it/seen it?

by Dexx
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With Mikey F giving away 10,000 copies of this $1,300 weekend seminar video footage he has been selling the past 2 years...

Has anyone actually seen or heard much about it (other than the obivous affiliate promo article blogs?)

Decent info?

How does it compare to Eben Pagan's Altitude Course?
#7figurecode #it or seen
  • Profile picture of the author David Hooper
    I've got both. Eben's is a better course, but don't let that stop you from getting 7FC if it speaks to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author smak
      Hi

      I wouldn't bother with this product even nif u only have to pay for the shipping.

      I bought it at fullprice when it came out few years ago. Its just a seminar presentation with lots of speakers just pitching their products. I was very disappointed when I went through the product and immediately returned it for full refund.

      I felt sorry for the people who attended this seminar,Iunderstand it cost them few $1500+ to attend. As mentioned its full of speakers coming on stage and pitching their products/ideas.

      Not worth it at all.


      smak
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  • Profile picture of the author Sancho Sanches
    When it first came out I got it and was happy with it.

    As time went on I became less impressed and realized I was just on a high.

    You might be able to get something out of it but it ain't what it had been made cracked up to be.

    Most newbies will probably be impressed, though.

    That's just my take. I know there are people who thought/think it's the bee's knees.
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  • Profile picture of the author Desmond Ong
    I think Eben's course is much better because it's more refreshing and it's just fun to listen to Eben talks.

    As for 7FC, it has its own specialty and it teaches more about setting up your business. If you are a serious marketer (not someone who is looking to make $1,000 per month and then chirp about it), this is a must-have IMO.

    And since it's free. You have nothing to lose.
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    • Profile picture of the author JazzOscar
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      It's free (well apart from the postage and packaging) so I ain't grumblin
      Originally Posted by Desmond Ong View Post

      -----And since it's free. You have nothing to lose.
      Dangerous mindset.

      The product might be free, but your time isn't. At least my time isn't.

      What I say does not apply specifically to this product. If you have other activities going that makes your business move forward, you shouldn't get more stuff just because it's free, even if it's good stuff.

      Just my point of view.
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      • Profile picture of the author AnthonyStaniforth
        This is quite frankly disgusting.
        I was really not interested in the MF offer but another IMer offered a very clever and potentially very useful bonus so I though as the product was "FREE" I would get it.
        Now,first of all the S&H is $24, well over the top(kerchingggg) but I thought still worth it for the bonus I am getting. What's REALLY annoyed me is the misleading information itself. There was supposed to be no forced continuity then what appears on the "sales" page but a load of very confusing gurubabble related to bloody newsletters that I don't want amongst a load of other stuff I don't want. OK I thought I'll just press the "no thanks" button. I then receive the confirmation email that appears to tell me I'll be billed in a months time for this and that newsletter. So I don't know whether I'm signed up for anything,whether I'm going to be billed for anything,whether I've got access to anything.It shouldn't be like that. I know they'll be people on here who consider themselves "experts" in the art of marketing who will applaud MF for his "clever" tactics. Well I'm sorry I don't think it's clever I think it's down right deceitful and preying on people that in all likelihood can least afford it. I will NEVER open another MF email or look at another of his offers. I'm also a little disappointed in those IMers that have promoted this underhand marketing technique. I despair sometimes I really do,
        regards,
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        • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
          Originally Posted by AnthonyStaniforth View Post

          This is quite frankly disgusting.
          I was really not interested in the MF offer but another IMer offered a very clever and potentially very useful bonus so I though as the product was "FREE" I would get it.
          Now,first of all the S&H is $24, well over the top(kerchingggg) but I thought still worth it for the bonus I am getting. What's REALLY annoyed me is the misleading information itself. There was supposed to be no forced continuity then what appears on the "sales" page but a load of very confusing gurubabble related to bloody newsletters that I don't want amongst a load of other stuff I don't want. OK I thought I'll just press the "no thanks" button. I then receive the confirmation email that appears to tell me I'll be billed in a months time for this and that newsletter. So I don't know whether I'm signed up for anything,whether I'm going to be billed for anything,whether I've got access to anything.It shouldn't be like that. I know they'll be people on here who consider themselves "experts" in the art of marketing who will applaud MF for his "clever" tactics. Well I'm sorry I don't think it's clever I think it's down right deceitful and preying on people that in all likelihood can least afford it. I will NEVER open another MF email or look at another of his offers. I'm also a little disappointed in those IMers that have promoted this underhand marketing technique. I despair sometimes I really do,
          regards,
          Anthony

          Hey Im from Nottingham too!

          the products were in the cart in the morning and are removable, but i do agree with you its definitely misleading, especially as in the prelaunch page he said theres no continuity
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    Some of the gurus has been promoting this 7FC stuff to me... no harm since it's free...

    But i think the main purpose is to build a huge list and then sell some other product
    to you...
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    im planning to get it tomorrow providing the international shipping doesnt cripple me
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    if you opt in to mikes list at The7FigureCode - Yours FREE then you get one of the presentations for free, that should atleast set the standard of what to expect
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Lindsay
    I was at the original sold out event which was called the "2007 Figure Business" Workshop which took place in Long Island NY, January 2007.

    You can see the original sales page here: (2007 Mike Filsaime Tom Beal 7 Figure Business Workshop).

    The core of "The 7 Figure Code" is the recording of this event.

    As I recall, in his presentation Mike Filsaime walks through the history of his business and went through the progress of his business essentially going from zero to his million dollar empire.

    The information revealed included how they outsourced to how they hired, to how they 'created products - going right through from concepts to cash'... to how their products were brought to market.

    For me, it was an all inspiring event which was attended by many of the big named marketers.

    I would recommend that if you have ambitions of developing a successful online business, you have no hesitation to paying the small shipping and handling fee to get access to this product.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamsad
        Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

        lol, is that a good or bad review?
        Considering I haven't finished the DVD's, I can say it is bad...
        maybe around 14 dvd's....it still in box...just watch around 4-5 dvd's...then I lost...totally lost...

        but I want to make a disclaimer here, that opinion above is just from me. I dont know about others. I'm a lazy guy. I shouldn't waste my money on it.

        i want to add some more..its not for newbies...as a newbies, the simpler the course the better...
        you need straight forward explanation...
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        • Profile picture of the author kenetra
          I purchased today and the emails received are a bit confusing. As I could have sworn the opt in video stated that there would be no forced continuity, however my emailed receipt states otherwise. Looks like I will need to cancel if I do not want the monthly mag.

          *************************************
          Here's the email I received:
          Hi Kenetra,

          You have ordered 7FigCode + 7FS Report + Monthly Print Mag Sub - USA/CAN.

          Your credit card will be charged 15.99
          for the shipping and handling of your
          "7 Figure Secrets Report"

          (add $4.00 for international orders)

          The charge will will appear as
          "MIKEFILSAIME.COM, INC."

          You can access the bonuses instantly
          just by logging in now at
          the7figuresecrets.com/login.php

          You will also receive your free issue of
          "MarketingDotCom Monthly" marketing
          magazine.

          Simply do nothing, and we will continue to
          send you a new Marketing Newsletter every
          month and we will conveniently bill you
          29.95/month (+ s&h) starting in 30 days.

          If you purchased the digital only version of
          the Marketing Newsletter, then we will
          conveniently bill you 19.95/month (NO s&h)
          starting in 30 days.

          You can cancel at anytime by calling

          631 - 615 - 4597 or going to our HELPDESK

          heCustomerHelpDesk.com - MikeFilsaime.com, Inc.

          Thank you,

          The7FigureSecrets.com
          Admin
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          However, when going to his cancelmetodaysite it does not show any subscriptions for me but this could also be that it has not updated to that system yet.

          So we'll see.

          I've watched the first two videos and got great value out of them...esp the one with Stephen P.

          Take care,
          K
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by adamsad View Post

        i got one that 7 figure code...
        dont even finished it...lots of dvd's
        Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

        lol, is that a good or bad review?
        No, it's just typical human behavior of not finishing something they start.

        That was 2+ years ago and I wonder what other courses they started
        but never finished.

        Just sayin'
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        • Profile picture of the author adamsad
          Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

          No, it's just typical human behavior of not finishing something they start.

          That was 2+ years ago and I wonder what other courses they started
          but never finished.

          Just sayin'
          that's why I said, if you think you are lazy like me..dont buy the course...the other short course keep me going...but not a home study course like this...the other homecourse that I finish is Russell Brunson, dotcomsecrets. But the content is not that much compare to 7figurecode. Correct me if I put the wrong Russell's course name.

          Most people aren't willing to spend reasonable time to learn new things, that's translate most newbies aren't willing to spend reasonable time to learn.

          :-P
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  • Profile picture of the author Maddi
    Why would some really respected marketers give out some really good bonuses just for getting 7 figure code which is FREE if we get it through their link??
    And they definitely get commission thats okay but what I don't get it is why would they give these bonuses out if we get something for free referred by them.
    Whats in it for them If there is no forced continuity or anythin
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  • Profile picture of the author billybob
    Maddi:

    Some recent offers have followed this pattern. The affiliates get a commission even for a free product because there are 2 or more cross-sells or upsells in the main product order area. Many include a monthly recurring fee, so the main marketer knows that he or she will make, say, $200 per person on average over their lifetime. He or she can then afford to pay a $100 commission for example, to affiliates for promoting a free product.
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    just a word of warning - prelaunch Mike said that you wouldn't be signed up for any continuity, but you actually are, a print newsletter and something else (forgotton sorry) you can actually take them out of your cart, but since he created scarcity around the product saying only 10,000 copies and a million people emailed about it or something, make sure you don't rush through the checkout process before checking whats in your cart...
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  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
    Nothing is free! You pay $16 S&H to get the Spiral bound "report" which is supposedly valued at $297 but if you want the $1297 course with DVD's it is not free it is $97 and you get free S&H. So the pitch video is mis-leading as it says the home study course will be free with a "small" S&H charge. $97 is no small shipping charge. Honestly $20 would cover shipping on a box that size.
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    • Profile picture of the author Danton Morgan
      I was very dissappointed with this as well. All of the promoters say Mike's giving away his video course. Even Mike's prelaunch video made it sound like you were going to get the DVDs. But today we find that you have to pay $97 to get the DVDs. Shipping is *only* $15 if all you want is the printed spiral bound manuals.
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    • Profile picture of the author YellowBird
      I thought the $97 was for the physical copy of the course... If you wanted the electronic version, it was at no cost. The $15.00 was for shipping the spiral bound summary copy.. At least that's what I understood.
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      • Profile picture of the author darrin_cooper
        That's what you think, because you are not looking very closely at the WORDS.

        Read every word very closely. "CODE" vs. "SECRETS" and look at the actual orders buttons. Seriously, you will have to write it out on paper to know the difference.

        The $97 physical videos that come in cases is the actual "CODE" product.
        Again, the Code is the actual product & the Secrets is a watered down report.


        Originally Posted by YellowBird View Post

        I thought the $97 was for the physical copy of the course... If you wanted the electronic version, it was at no cost. The $15.00 was for shipping the spiral bound summary copy.. At least that's what I understood.
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      • Profile picture of the author ozduc
        Originally Posted by YellowBird View Post

        I thought the $97 was for the physical copy of the course... If you wanted the electronic version, it was at no cost. The $15.00 was for shipping the spiral bound summary copy.. At least that's what I understood.
        Yeah I just went and had another look at the order page. If you pay the $16 S&H you get the "report" or summary copy and then access to the online videos of the DVD's. If you want the DVD copies they are $97. So if there are 10,000 copies to be given away for $97 each that is almost a million bucks in sales of a FREE product, not to mention the back end up sells. Way to go Mike, it's great to see you are getting out of the "guru" business. I guess this is one way of getting rid of all the left over stock sitting on the shelves and put a million bucks in your pocket to boot.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrin_cooper
    Let's make this clear what it is. It is a sham & false advertising.
    The 7 Figure "CODE" is completely different from the 7 Figure Secrets.

    7 Figure Secrets is a simple report of about 15 - 20 pages, that gives an overview & some stories. That's what you will end up paying $16 of shipping & handling for.

    The "Advertising" via Emails stated that the "7 Figure Code" which is essentially a complete & full product was what was going to be given out for free for 10,000 people.
    This is clearly bait & switch as well as false advertising.
    Overall, what you are really paying for is the cost of a box being shipped to your house.
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  • Profile picture of the author B3n
    "Hi, this is Mike Filsaime along with Tom Beal, and welcome to the 7 Figure Secrets" says Filsaime.

    Why has it suddenly changed to the 7 Figure Secrets?

    Wasn't that the spiral bound thing he sold a while ago (along with the forced continuity to the "Best Magazine in the Universe" or whatever it was called). I thought the giveaway was for the 7 Figure Code and went to the site, credit card in hand ready to buy it...

    However, when I saw the $97 price after being led to believe it was free (apart from S&H), I clicked back. Strange bait and switch there.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    I have never had a straightforward offer from this "g u r u". Always a catch or a cleverly worded misleading statement.

    I simply do not trust the company at all.

    It reminds me of when I last caught an eel - it was one very slippery customer indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author CraigX
      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      I have never had a straightforward offer from this "g u r u". Always a catch or a cleverly worded misleading statement.

      I simply do not trust the company at all.

      It reminds me of when I last caught an eel - it was one very slippery customer indeed.

      I'm not ever going to buy any of mikes products or services he comes out with now or in the future. . He very clearly states in the sells video I got in an e-mail that the 7 figure code will be free no string no catches only to find out he wants $97 for it. The 7 figure secrets is not the 7 figure code.
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      • Profile picture of the author supercrawler
        Originally Posted by CraigX View Post

        I'm not ever going to buy any of mikes products or services he comes out with now or in the future. . He very clearly states in the sells video I got in an e-mail that the 7 figure code will be free no string no catches only to find out he wants $97 for it. The 7 figure secrets is not the 7 figure code.
        hmmm..so it is different
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by CraigX View Post

        I'm not ever going to buy any of mikes products or services he comes out with now or in the future. . He very clearly states in the sells video I got in an e-mail that the 7 figure code will be free no string no catches only to find out he wants $97 for it. The 7 figure secrets is not the 7 figure code.
        Originally Posted by supercrawler View Post

        hmmm..so it is different
        The $97 purchase is a pre-transactional upsell option to get the physical version
        of the 7 figure code instead of just the instant digital version.

        Craig X was either confused or misinformed at the time he wrote that post,
        but I am pretty sure this issue was addressed later on in the thread.

        I am pretty sure everyone is clear on that now.

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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    you get the DVDs! i dunno if he ships it out to you or not, but the videos are in the members area, either way its worth the $20 shipping ($20 international for me, dunno about you guys)
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    • Profile picture of the author Mario Brown
      I'm totally confused.

      I didn't opt for any of the upsells and I removed the subscriptions from the shopping cart.

      Still I think I got billed for something. Now that I'm in the '7 figure secrets members area' I can't see the videos at all.

      There was another log in for the 7 figure zone and there are the videos but I don't have access.

      Lol that's very confusing and after all I don't have access to the 'free' videos.

      I would appreciate it if somebody could point me in the right direction in order to find the streaming videos...

      I expected the upsells and downsell, it was interesting to see how many he had and how he tried to make sales.

      Cheers,
      Mario
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      • Profile picture of the author Maddi
        very very disappointing.
        The confusion between 'secrets' 'zone' and 'code'
        I removed the magazine n everything with continuity or free trial and just wanted the streaming videos (though they say u get the dvds and then there is additional fees for dvds and u can only get the streaming but i was fine with that too as long as that was free) .
        But guess what?
        Even if you take out everything from the shopping cart that has shipping or any kind of continuity and just want the streaming stuff the shipping and handling fees is still there.
        What is the S & H for if you only want the vidoes online which were supposedly FREE??

        Whats more disappointing is that some marketers that I highly respect are promoting it and giving out some awesome bonuses which is what i was after anyway.
        What a Shame.
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        • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
          Originally Posted by Maddi View Post

          very very disappointing.
          The confusion between 'secrets' 'zone' and 'code'
          I removed the magazine n everything with continuity or free trial and just wanted the streaming videos (though they say u get the dvds and then there is additional fees for dvds and u can only get the streaming but i was fine with that too as long as that was free) .
          But guess what?
          Even if you take out everything from the shopping cart that has shipping or any kind of continuity and just want the streaming stuff the shipping and handling fees is still there.
          What is the S & H for if you only want the vidoes online which were supposedly FREE??

          Whats more disappointing is that some marketers that I highly respect are promoting it and giving out some awesome bonuses which is what i was after anyway.
          What a Shame.

          I can assure you that the "confusion" is deliberately being created. Quite shameful actually, and you get the usual 4 or 5 "inner circle" buddies all pumping it hard too...
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          • Profile picture of the author ozduc
            Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

            I can assure you that the "confusion" is deliberately being created. Quite shameful actually, and you get the usual 4 or 5 "inner circle" buddies all pumping it hard too...
            4 or 5? try 15-20. The emails are still coming.
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  • Profile picture of the author pcdasari
    Disappointed & Confused.

    Email from Mike on 11 December 2009 with Title / Subject "how to ensure you get your free copy of The 7 Figure Code" that is going to be release on 15th December by paying a small S&H charges.

    And when it is release today, The first thing I see is "The 7 Figure Secrets" Free with S&H charges for international customers $24 USD.

    Then there is an up-sell of "Instant Affiliate Website & MarketingDotCom Monthly Digital Magazine" for ~$20 USD which you can cancel at anytime.

    There is nothing free about this "The 7 Figure Code" yet,

    Then there is another up-sell of "7 Figure Zone" monthly Membership at ~$20 USD.

    Finally coming to the product itself the much hyped "The 7 Figure Code", but it is not free it is for a low price of $97 USD with S&H Free.

    Looks like I have misunderstood the meaning of the word "Free Copy" from the original mail from Mike, May be i should update my Marketing Dictionary for this keyword.

    Being a newbie, I think I have definitely learnt something from this GURU Sales letter, ie: how to write confusing sales pitch (or) should I say how to carefully write sales pitch that are not going to confuse customers......Or should I say am completely Confused.
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    guys, im only paying shipping and handling, but i have the videos streaming online (which ofcourse im downloading) no one else is seeing this
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    • Profile picture of the author KGoods
      There must have been a glitch on the page. There was no mention of getting the digital full version online until I reloaded the page. It now shows up. Needless to say I was pretty disappointed and had a rant at the ready until I saw this.

      Thanks for mentioning it ruch1v!
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  • Profile picture of the author bnmguy
    I am really perplexed by this so called product. It's annoying how much crap is out there these days. Ugh.
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  • Profile picture of the author JadeCloud
    I got it last year. It was very basic info then and that was a year ago. Seriously
    don't waste your time. You wont learn anything new in there that you can't find
    here for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
      I keep a close eye on the top marketers.

      Some of their marketing is cutting edge.

      It turns out that this might have been
      a bad experiment.

      I've met Mike in person and he's a great
      guy, although the check out process is
      a little sneaky.

      In my experience his courses are great
      for taking your business to the next level.

      In fact, I just incorporated an idea from the
      Butterfly Manuscript that I should have done
      a year ago.

      What a difference...

      My bad, for not taking action on the info.

      I'll probably still get the digital version
      just to grab the course and the bonus.

      Overall, I'm sure the digital course is well
      worth the $20 bucks or so, especially if
      you get a bonus with it.

      Craig
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      • Profile picture of the author bethrobinson
        I too am seeing the full product in digital version online once I completed the entire checkout process. I'm thrilled the transcripts are included and downloaded them all.

        His continuity products and upsells were clearly marked and I fully expected them with this level of a giveaway. I'm a little disappointed the cancelling procedure looks like it is going to be complicated, though. I also COMPLETELY missed that I could have removed them from my cart. The way I read the pages I had no choice but to accept them.

        I checked out both the magazine and the membership site and wasn't particularly impressed. I would have liked the magazine better if it had been a simple pdf and not a interactive thing with a difficult to control zoom that loaded like molasses. I definitely wouldn't pay for the hardcopy.

        All in all, I'm satisfied with the giveaway and am willing to pay with my time to hack through the slush (there was definitely slush!) to get the product and the bonus offered by the affiliate link I purchased through (which was worth far more to me than $16).
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeWalker
    Here's how this whole ploy works in round figures...

    He "sells" 10,000 of his product at a minimum of $20.

    Lets say "profit from this is 50% i.e. $10 each "sale".

    Profit so far equals $100,000

    Lets say 1,000 people pay $97, thats another $97,000 less $7,000 costs equals $90,000.

    Lets say 2,000 people pay his continuity in month one and the profit from that is $20 each.

    That's another $40,000

    Upsells, downsells, cross-sells and scam-sells nets another $100,000.

    Conservatively $330,000 profit so far and I could be up to $1,000,000 out.

    That's all in month 1.

    But he has to give his buddies some of this.

    Lots of less educated IM'ers stick around in months 2, 3 etc...

    He also ends up with a database of say 8,000 who he knows are interested in IM and perhaps 1,000 or 2,000 in future products etc...

    Not bad really, when the only downside is 40 or 50 pissed-off people on this thread.

    I highly recommend this business model if your ethics allow it.

    Mine don't and so I won't be getting a new car this week.

    Mike Walker

    P.S. - We will probably hear in another g u r u 's seminar next year, what a wonderful idea MF came up with etc...
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    I got 7 figure code on the Paydotcom upsell about a month back. Its pretty good, but its not up to the standard of other products that I have seen, such as mass control.

    I personally will be getting the upsell as I think that $97 is a small price to pay for the pleasure of a nice fat box is the post and not having to sit at my PC to watch it.

    Yes I know that I could download it etc, but I dont have the fastest internet in the world!
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    • Profile picture of the author TracyRepchuk
      I bought at full price - was not impressed. I expected a step by step formula/program where I could apply it, and make 7 figures. What it was, was a speaker fest. Nothing against them, I am a part of that world, and love it - but when I paid that kind of money for the 90 minute presentations of the speakers, I was very disappointed.

      Having said that, it is now free - and if you are a speaker, watching the presentations for that is good. Some of the 'teachings' are out of of date, so don't necessarily take it for content. When I bought it, I got a big binder too - lots of print outs. These were also disappointing, it was the powerpoints. At the time, I was trying to get step by step stuff.

      I watched all of it, and it did not give me value, and cost me a lot of time.
      If you have a speaker you follow though that is on it, and you like to have everything they do or say - then free, is free.

      What isn't free though is your time, and it will eat it, with no 'revenue generating' return.

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      • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
        Originally Posted by TracyRepchuk View Post

        I bought at full price - was not impressed. I expected a step by step formula/program where I could apply it, and make 7 figures. What it was, was a speaker fest. Nothing against them, I am a part of that world, and love it - but when I paid that kind of money for the 90 minute presentations of the speakers, I was very disappointed.

        Having said that, it is now free - and if you are a speaker, watching the presentations for that is good. Some of the 'teachings' are out of of date, so don't necessarily take it for content. When I bought it, I got a big binder too - lots of print outs. These were also disappointing, it was the powerpoints. At the time, I was trying to get step by step stuff.

        I watched all of it, and it did not give me value, and cost me a lot of time.
        If you have a speaker you follow though that is on it, and you like to have everything they do or say - then free, is free.

        What isn't free though is your time, and it will eat it, with no 'revenue generating' return.

        Tracy Repchuk

        Hi Tracy, can you give examples of the things that are in there that are maybe outdated now?

        thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author eechisim
    I am really annoying with so called "monthly digital newsletter" and have to cancel it myself, and I really don't see any options to disable or cancel the MDC at the sales page, although my place here is already 330am, I still try to keep myself awake with this sneaky sales process.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by eechisim View Post

      I am really annoying with so called "monthly digital newsletter" and have to cancel it myself, and I really don't see any options to disable or cancel the MDC at the sales page, although my place here is already 330am, I still try to keep myself awake with this sneaky sales process.
      Here is a screenshot of how to remove the monthly newsletter option from your cart:

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      • Profile picture of the author quickregister
        I of course got the emails and got to the checkout and stopped. Too many continuity programs for me. Jason, I know Mike F. is your man but it really was not a straight ahead offer. I passed even though I know Mike F. is a very successful guy.

        The gurus are all in the same very profitable marketing gang so they are somewhat
        obligated to promote each others offers. Maybe even when they do not feel 100 percent about the offers they are promoting. I really have no problem with continuity offers I just think you really have to be very clear about them. Kern, had one that I joined for 1 buck that actually was pretty good. It was very clear that I had a month to cancel before the billing clicked in. The cancellation process was straight forward too. No problem.

        By the way Jason's course for beginning marketers is really excellent. I have sold a few. I do not like the survey before the sales page though. I think it would have converted better without the survey first for my crowd. They need it really simple. One of the best courses for beginners I have seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author eechisim
      Originally Posted by eechisim View Post

      I purchased today and the emails received are a bit confusing. As I could have sworn the opt in video stated that there would be no forced continuity, however my emailed receipt states otherwise. Looks like I will need to cancel if I do not want the monthly mag.
      Kenetra, I also face the same issue here, sigh

      Jasondinner, thanks for the screenshot, anyway I am pretty sure I already remove it from my cart, and this is the first thing I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author B3n
    Disclaimer - for many years Jason Dinner worked for Mike Filsaime - and for all I know probably still does. He isn't quick to admit that though.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeWalker
      Originally Posted by B3n View Post

      Disclaimer - for many years Jason Dinner worked for Mike Filsaime - and for all I know probably still does. He isn't quick to admit that though.

      It doesn't surprise me at all.

      What does surprise me is that more haven't crawled out of the woodwork to defend this latest marketing "technique".
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by MikeWalker View Post

        It doesn't surprise me at all.

        What does surprise me is that more haven't crawled out of the woodwork to defend this latest marketing "technique".
        Mike you're funny.

        How is showing another warrior how to NOT get on Mike's continuity defending mike's latest offer?

        Nobody else was helping this member, so I decided to myself since I know the order process well.

        It seems you are bitter about something towards Mike and his marketing practices, but don't drag me in to your issues just because I helped somebody not pay more than they wanted to.

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        • Profile picture of the author MikeWalker
          Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

          Mike you're funny.

          How is showing another warrior how to NOT get on Mike's continuity defending mike's latest offer?

          Nobody else was helping this member, so I decided to myself since I know the order process well.

          It seems you are bitter about something towards Mike and his marketing practices, but don't drag me in to your issues just because I helped somebody not pay more than they wanted to.

          Thanks
          Jason

          I wasn't attacking you and if it seemed that way, then I apologise.

          You ask whether I am "bitter about something towards Mike and his marketing practices".

          DAMN RIGHT!!!

          I detest misleading, sneaky and some may say downright dishonest marketing promotions.

          Just go back and read this thread to see if people think the marketing was all above board.

          If you are now the "TOP DOG" and "proud of it", then you can let him read this thread, which he probably has already or at least had his "DOGS" let him know what is being said.

          Marketing can and should be clever. But sneaky isn't clever. Profitable maybe. But it's not ethical.

          Is it?


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          • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
            Originally Posted by MikeWalker View Post

            I wasn't attacking you and if it seemed that way, then I apologise.

            You ask whether I am "bitter about something towards Mike and his marketing practices".

            DAMN RIGHT!!!

            I detest misleading, sneaky and some may say downright dishonest marketing promotions.

            Just go back and read this thread to see if people think the marketing was all above board.

            If you are now the "TOP DOG" and "proud of it", then you can let him read this thread, which he probably has already or at least had his "DOGS" let him know what is being said.

            Marketing can and should be clever. But sneaky isn't clever. Profitable maybe. But it's not ethical.

            Is it?

            Mike Walker
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            Now go and make some money and share your results with our beloved warrior family.
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            • Profile picture of the author Lance K
              I haven't paid attention to the offer at all. So I don't know what was promised vs. what was delivered.

              That said...

              I bought 7 Figure Code when it came out for something like $497. To me it was well worth it. The DVDs of Stephen Pierce's and Drew Miles' presentations alone were worth that much to me. And there were some other solid ones as well (not all, but nobody bats 1.000).

              For anyone that wants the physical product, it'll be well worth the $97 and time invested in consuming it (IF you implement). And if you get full online access for $20, even better.

              I won't comment on the continuity, upsells, etc. And I don't think I would even if I was familiar with them. The sales process isn't what the OP wanted to know about.

              They wanted to know what people thought about the 7 Figure Code (THE PRODUCT). And isn't that what discussion on the review forum is supposed to focus on?

              Anyway, I'm not defending, endorsing, etc. the marketing strategy of the launch. I'm not on Mike's list anymore and don't buy his stuff anymore.

              Regardless, the 7 Figure Code is worth what he's charging IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by B3n View Post

      Disclaimer - for many years Jason Dinner worked for Mike Filsaime - and for all I know probably still does. He isn't quick to admit that though.
      Disclaimer - YES!! I was the first person to help him run and grow his company in his office
      and now am the TOP DOG in his company and proud of it.

      I also run my corporation out of his office.

      I just wrote an email to my list talking about this.

      I don't usually like to mix my personal business with the services I provide his company which is why I don't walk around bragging about being his Right Hand Man.

      However I figured I was being helpful by showing people how to check off the continuity option.

      Other people will be appreciative of me pointing out how to do that.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sancho Sanches
    I'm no Mike Filsaime fanboy but people need to wake up and look at what they are doing.

    It's not like the addons are hidden or difficult to see but I do understand it can be annoying.

    Maybe the right thing to do, but not as clever, would be to have the extra stuff unchecked and only checked by a customer if they want it and not having to uncheck it if you don't.

    If you want to take that stuff off just look at the top right hand of each box and you'll see a clickable link that says [ Remove From Cart ]

    He isn't the only one who does this.

    If you order CDs from BMG you'll get on the pick of the month thing and automatically get it - if you don't want it you have to manually fill out the card and tell them you don't want it and mail it otherwise you'll get it and be charged for it.

    I hated that but this sort of thing happens all the time and it's not exactly "wrong" because it was the deal.

    How many people have complained but it isn't the first time you complain about Mike Filsaime?

    If he pisses you off this much then just stop getting anything with his name on it once and for all and end it already.

    You sound like a hundred broken records going all at the same time - all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Hey All,

    Frankly, I'm not shocked at all the crap, garbage, complaining, and outright misinformation I'm seeing in this thread ... it's pretty typical of the WF.

    Mike is providing exactly what he promised, the only reason for any confusion is that people are assuming things that aren't true, and getting pissed off because their assumptions aren't correct ...

    It's almost as dumb as when my wife gets upset with me in real life, for something I did in one of her dreams ...

    Mike said you'd be getting the 7 Figure Code in digital version, the 7 Figure Secrets report physically shipped to you, and a copy of his MDC newsletter shipped to you ... and that he'd be making that offer available for the price of shipping and handling, without forced continuity.

    That's EXACTLY what he's doing. Anyone who says anything otherwise is just plain wrong ... and, there's no arguing that point.

    Forced continuity is just that, it's forced ... meaning that you can not remove that option when order ... hence the word "forced". In this case, you can clearly remove any add-ons that would include continuity when you're in the checkout process.

    Mike never promised to send you the 7 Figure Code on DVD's, that's a poor assumption made by people reading more into the offer than what's there ...

    As for the 7 Figure Zone, that's another add-on, and again, it's NOT forced continuity.

    For those saying ... but, but, but I'm getting a copy of his newsletter shipped to me ... that must mean I'm entered into some forced continuity program.

    Um .. No.

    Mike is simply including a copy of the newsletter, for free, regardless of whether or not you chose to join one of his continuity programs.

    This is a MARKETING forum folks, and what Mike is doing is a great example of upsell, and bump marketing ... the very same thing that is responsible for trillions of dollars in additional revenue for some of the largest companies on the planet every year.

    Are you pissed off when McDonald's asks if you'd like a drink with your order? Are you raging mad when Best Buy asks you if you'd like a USB cable to go with your printer?

    If you're either too lazy, or too dense to read the order form before placing your order ... don't blame Mike. And if you're confused at what options you should choose, and don't send in a support ticket to get clarification before ordering ... again, don't blame Mike.

    And some people wonder why he's leaving the "guru" market ...

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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Did I mention that the actual content in question was well worth the asking price? That was the question wasn't it?
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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      Are you pissed off when McDonald's asks if you'd like a drink with your order? Are you raging mad when Best Buy asks you if you'd like a USB cable to go with your printer?
      No.

      But if they put 2 extra cheezburgers and a quarter-pounder in the bag for my initial order for a bigMac, and THEN ask me money, I will get pissed.

      What if you go to best buy to get a printer, and they give you a cart with a computer, scanner, TV and then a printer?


      Is it profitable? Yeah
      Is it ethical? NO!
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeJ
      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

      Hey All,

      Frankly, I'm not shocked at all the crap, garbage, complaining, and outright misinformation I'm seeing in this thread ... it's pretty typical of the WF.

      Mike is providing exactly what he promised, the only reason for any confusion is that people are assuming things that aren't true, and getting pissed off because their assumptions aren't correct ...

      It's almost as dumb as when my wife gets upset with me in real life, for something I did in one of her dreams ...

      Mike said you'd be getting the 7 Figure Code in digital version, the 7 Figure Secrets report physically shipped to you, and a copy of his MDC newsletter shipped to you ... and that he'd be making that offer available for the price of shipping and handling, without forced continuity.

      That's EXACTLY what he's doing. Anyone who says anything otherwise is just plain wrong ... and, there's no arguing that point.

      Forced continuity is just that, it's forced ... meaning that you can not remove that option when order ... hence the word "forced". In this case, you can clearly remove any add-ons that would include continuity when you're in the checkout process.

      Mike never promised to send you the 7 Figure Code on DVD's, that's a poor assumption made by people reading more into the offer than what's there ...

      As for the 7 Figure Zone, that's another add-on, and again, it's NOT forced continuity.

      For those saying ... but, but, but I'm getting a copy of his newsletter shipped to me ... that must mean I'm entered into some forced continuity program.

      Um .. No.

      Mike is simply including a copy of the newsletter, for free, regardless of whether or not you chose to join one of his continuity programs.

      This is a MARKETING forum folks, and what Mike is doing is a great example of upsell, and bump marketing ... the very same thing that is responsible for trillions of dollars in additional revenue for some of the largest companies on the planet every year.

      Are you pissed off when McDonald's asks if you'd like a drink with your order? Are you raging mad when Best Buy asks you if you'd like a USB cable to go with your printer?

      If you're either too lazy, or too dense to read the order form before placing your order ... don't blame Mike. And if you're confused at what options you should choose, and don't send in a support ticket to get clarification before ordering ... again, don't blame Mike.

      And some people wonder why he's leaving the "guru" market ...

      Gary Ambrose

      Hi Gary (Never Thanks) Ambrose,

      Firstly, aren't you best buddies with Mike?

      It is difficult to take that out of the equation when you are defending the tactics used so strongly.

      You seem to have thrown some very general insults around at people who are genuinely upset at the marketing used and the misleading statements.

      Perhaps you and Jason are too close to this to actually see that a lot of people here do feel aggrieved.

      I saw the videos and read the sales letter etc and I must admit it did seem rather sneaky.

      It's not for me as I have info overload right now and am working well on my various projects. The other MAIN reason is because his company's support sucks and he has always wriggled out of it by saying it was all down to some other JV's responsibility. Yet he uses his name to take a large cut of the profits. But doesn't want his name mentioned when support becomes a problem etc...

      But it was not as clear as you are making it out to be.

      I don't know why he is "getting out" of the IM g u r u business. Frankly I don't care, but I know it isn't because people complain here on the forum.

      His company probably couldn't care less so long as the money rolled in.

      As a side issue, why have you never thanked anyone for anything on this forum? That alone makes me think less of you and your reply.

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      • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        Hi Gary (Never Thanks) Ambrose,
        Firstly, aren't you best buddies with Mike?
        Yup, I know Mike ...

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        It is difficult to take that out of the equation when you are defending the tactics used so strongly.
        That's a legitimate concern ... so, let's just look at the facts, instead of making another assumption that just because I'm a friend, I'd be fine with someone pulling some funny business.

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        You seem to have thrown some very general insults around at people who are genuinely upset at the marketing used and the misleading statements.
        I'm only insulting those who feel that anything is misleading ... because clearly, it's not. If anyone went through the process with their eyes open, and actually bothered to read the offer, and watch the video, they wouldn't be confused.

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        Perhaps you and Jason are too close to this to actually see that a lot of people here do feel aggrieved.
        No, we're not too close to Mike to see that people are aggravated ... we just think their aggravation isn't warranted, and is mostly out of laziness on the part of the customer, or sour grapes.

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        I saw the videos and read the sales letter etc and I must admit it did seem rather sneaky.
        You read the sales letter? That's interesting ... because there isn't one.

        And, what's sneaky about making an offer, and then allowing people to take advantage of that offer?

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        It's not for me as I have info overload right now and am working well on my various projects. The other MAIN reason is because his company's support sucks and he has always wriggled out of it by saying it was all down to some other JV's responsibility. Yet he uses his name to take a large cut of the profits. But doesn't want his name mentioned when support becomes a problem etc...
        Congratulations on making a smart decision and being one of the few in the field who realizes that if you're already in the information overload phase ... you shouldn't buy any more stuff.

        As for the support issue ... it sounds to me like you're saying that Mike should be offering support on the products that he promoted as an affiliate. If that's the case, Mike should help you get in touch with their support department by providing contact information ... but anything beyond that can't reasonably be expected.

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        But it was not as clear as you are making it out to be.
        I disagree ...

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        I don't know why he is "getting out" of the IM g u r u business. Frankly I don't care, but I know it isn't because people complain here on the forum.
        I'm sure all the negativity played a small role, even in Mike wouldn't admit it publicly ...

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        His company probably couldn't care less so long as the money rolled in.
        Nice insult ... see, you can do it too.

        Originally Posted by JoeJ View Post

        As a side issue, why have you never thanked anyone for anything on this forum? That alone makes me think less of you and your reply.
        Thanked someone? For what?

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  • Profile picture of the author JaimeCruzM
    I got the 7 figure code and even i took all offers off i was still charge the $15.99, they aren't shipping anything so i really don't know whta's the s/h charge for, but since I have access to the videos it worth the $15.99 so far there is very good information to start implementing it. I've watched the first 3 videos and there is way way good value out of them, maybe because I'm almost new to this OM but Hope to keep learning more with very video.
    also this guys strategies Stephen C.. are just great and truly inspirational
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
      Originally Posted by JaimeCruzM View Post

      I got the 7 figure code and even i took all offers off i was still charge the $15.99, they aren't shipping anything so i really don't know whta's the s/h charge for, but since I have access to the videos it worth the $15.99 so far there is very good information to start implementing it. I've watched the first 3 videos and there is way way good value out of them, maybe because I'm almost new to this OM but Hope to keep learning more with very video.
      also this guys strategies Stephen C.. are just great and truly inspirational
      Perfect example ... Yes, they are shipping something. They're shipping you a copy of Mike's newsletter, and of the 7 Figure Secrets report.

      Why would you pay for shipping, if nothing was being shipped?

      Wow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sancho Sanches
      I think this is what the shipping and handling charge is for:

      Just pay nominal s&h for The 7 Figure Secrets Spiral Bound Printed Deluxe Report and Bonuses

      Originally Posted by JaimeCruzM View Post

      I got the 7 figure code and even i took all offers off i was still charge the $15.99, they aren't shipping anything so i really don't know whta's the s/h charge for, [...]
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    lol. love seeing all the people complaining about this offer... when all they had to do was unsubscribe from his emails and never even consider another offer made by him (if they are not satisfied with his stuff).

    also love the $16 shipping and handling for a book (can be printed and shipped for you for about $5).

    classic stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by Simon Ashari View Post


      also love the $16 shipping and handling for a book (can be printed and shipped for you for about $5).

      classic stuff.

      I know you wrote it, but it seems you're conveniently ignoring the "HANDLING" part of the S&H fee.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by Simon Ashari View Post

      lol. love seeing all the people complaining about this offer... when all they had to do was unsubscribe from his emails and never even consider another offer made by him (if they are not satisfied with his stuff).

      also love the $16 shipping and handling for a book (can be printed and shipped for you for about $5).

      classic stuff.

      "Handling" is the part where this stuff actually gets printed, assembled, packaged and generally moved around by actual human beings until the postage is slapped on it and it's mailed. This stuff isn't materialized out of thin air

      Just in case you wondered what the "Handling" part of "Shipping and Handling" meant... hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    ""Handling" is the part where this stuff actually gets printed, assembled, packaged and generally moved around by actual human beings until the postage is slapped on it and it's mailed. This stuff isn't materialized out of thin air"

    Hi Mike,

    Hope you're well.

    Actually, 'handling' is usually only the warehousing costs. The printing and so on would normally be a production cost. People are upset because $15 is clearly too much for just shipping and the normal definition of handling.

    By any normal standards, $15 to have online access to these videos is a great bargain, irrespective of what comes in the report and the free copy of the magazine. I don't understand the need for obfuscation.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      ""Handling" is the part where this stuff actually gets printed, assembled, packaged and generally moved around by actual human beings until the postage is slapped on it and it's mailed. This stuff isn't materialized out of thin air"

      Hi Mike,

      Hope you're well.

      Actually, 'handling' is usually only the warehousing costs. The printing and so on would normally be a production cost. People are upset because $15 is clearly too much for just shipping and the normal definition of handling.

      By any normal standards, $15 to have online access to these videos is a great bargain, irrespective of what comes in the report and the free copy of the magazine. I don't understand the need for obfuscation.

      Pearson
      Hi Pearson,

      Thanks, I am doing well. Hope you are too.

      Maybe your definition of handling is correct, better, etc. But typically, in every case I have personally seen, handling also covered the manufacture of the product as well. But in this case, even if you take away the manufacture of the report and complimentary copy of the newsletter, which is merely some printing, there is still the cost of all the rest I mentioned. And that's where most of the cost is - manpower.

      I can also tell you that on this particular launch, there is ZERO profit on the S&H cost. Not a cent. And depending upon where in the world this stuff is actually sent, some orders are a loss. But that's all figured in to the metrix.

      Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by deanoram View Post

      So is Mike going out with a bang, taking our money and one last time, he mention that he was moving into software?, so does that mean the Gurus game is up in Internet Marketing??
      This blog post from Mike answers your question. He asked those that read it to pass it along to people that make the statement you made.

      The7FigureCode Member Blog Just to clarify… (I am not retiring)
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  • Profile picture of the author maxitman
    I dont know about you guys, but I am just tired of getting a come on, and then a let down, enough is enough. Mike's stuff might be ok, but frankly, there are lots of alternatives, so you are not stuck with one guy. The point is this, this offer comes out and offers you a free product, valued at 1300, and when you go through the motions, it turns out you only get a product valued at 297, and even at that, you have to pay s&h, 20+ bucks or so. And again, it even might be worth it, I am not disputing that at all, but when I get treated this way, I would not buy it even if it was for a dollar. That is to say, I've lost my trust, and so if I dont trust the brains behind it, what else is there?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    I admit I originally thought I was getting the hardcopy of the 7 Figure Code for just S&H. I'm not sure if that was poor communication on Mike's part or misunderstanding on mine. That said, I was fully expecting to pay around 50 bucks or more to get such a big DVD set shipped to the UK. I was also a little annoyed thinking, "Hello, this is the Internet, why can't you just make them available for download ..."

    So, when I discovered I could get full access to the content and all it would cost me was $24 to have a couple of other bits shipped (presumably as a cost covering exercise) I was absolutely blown away.

    My only annoyance with the sales flow was finding the upsells were automatically in my basket and had to be removed, rather than being offered and having to be added. Just a pet peeve since I then felt compelled to go back through the whole sales flow and check I hadn't committed to anything else.

    I'm half way through the DVDs and I've been stunned with the level of detail offered by Mike and his team of speakers. There is so much stuff to take away and apply to my own business that my biggest danger is trying to do too much of it in one go, not too little.

    If you're just starting out in business, whether online or off, then don't purchase this and expect to be given a checklist of steps to follow that will result in a 7 figure business. No one can do that for you, you have to do it for yourself.

    However, if you're just starting out and want to learn the right mindset to approach this from, then you absolutely can't go wrong by watching this.

    For anyone who has already built a five or six figure business, this is an absolute no brainer at $24 (less in the US I believe).

    Cheers,

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    I know what he did in the prelaunch video saying it was completely free was a bit sneaky but still... The price you pay for what you get is still staggeringly cheap.

    Just make sure you read EVERYTHING before you order and you should be fine.

    Personally I'm skipping on this. I've got too much on at the moment and I haven't got time to wade through hours of video content no matter how good it is.

    I've got a plan and I'm sticking with it
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  • Profile picture of the author docmatt
    I think everybody should keep THIS in mind too - As marketers, one of the best and most effective methods guaranteed to win you over new "fans" er, customers, is to overwhelm them with so much FREE content you've so generously dispensed to them that they are COMPELLED with OBLIGATION (read Cialdini if nothing else) to give you some money of some kind- Then, when they LOVE your content, you've got fans, er, customers for life -

    With that said, I will throw my opinionated hat into the ring and say that anyone who even begins to balk at paying $16.00 for this entire course, well, isn't it just KIND OF ludicrous? I have the entire 7 Figure set, have had it since '07, and I can say that it was and still is worth far more that the $497 I paid back then-

    What I'm really getting at is, bottom line of the whole thing, everybody should be THROWING $16.00 at Mike just out of guilt for getting the Stephen Pierce session for free- Just my opinion, and I'm not going to comment on the upsell process, I personally had no confusion there but that's me-

    I just wanted to address the content of the course itself, and basically help anyone make a no-brained educated decision to trade pesos for dollars here-

    I think the REAL SHAME here is that, perception is everything, and since people are now paying $16.00 for this content that originally sold for $5,000, the perceived value will be extremely low at this point and everybody will probably just get through one or two videos, and then just let it sit on their 5 TB shelf lost in the ocean of their thousand other courses and collect the proverbial digital dust, never to be appreciated again-
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    has anyone received anything in the post from this yet? i signed up on the first day and am still waiting.. Ruchi
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  • Profile picture of the author Maddi
    Just purchased. Will let you guys know. Despite of the fact that I don't like these all add to cart n remove from cart stuff (which apparently was not supposed to be there or may be I got it wrong in the promos) but the only reason i got it was John Thornhill's Bonus.
    Every Big Marketer and his dog is promoting 7 figure code which turns out to be 7 figure secrets when you wanna get it and in the end you are also presented with 7 figure zone which is confusing if not misleading. Anyways I only got it because John Thornhill who I highly respect and was tempted to get the personalized bonuses he was offering otherwise I wouldn't have so much as clicked on the link in the email as it is enough to put you off track and information overload can be a big big problem.
    I'm sure its gonna be really informative but will post a review after I've seen it.
    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    got a email today that it will be shipped on Monday the 28th, thats way too much of a delay considering I ordered on the 15th, I was expecting to have received it by now!
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    I've noticed that the video to sell the product has changed, im guessing they did get alot of complaints, before it was Mike and Tom speaking, now its just Mike and he makes clear that the DVDs are for illustration purposes only
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  • Profile picture of the author simonjwarner
    No matter which way you look at it, its an amazing bargain! 7FC is all about building a buisness.

    The first DVD is worth $1000's on its own, it will save me a fortune.

    The hedgehog concept is fantastic, I've spend months jumping around and not getting stuck into my core buisness.

    If you do get it, watch it. How many products to we all have that are collecting digital dust?
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    does anyone know what level it was intended for? as in newbie, intermediate or advanced?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author EruwanGerry
    The 7 Figure Code is worth every single bit of information on it, even though now Mike is giving it out for free recently. To bad to those who didn't get the chance to get the free product.
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    • Profile picture of the author robertorod
      I don't know but Mike's ways of selling look like he is trying to avoid you so you will not unsubscribe. They make your life impossible to contact them and as he says on the video:
      "You will never have to talk to a human again".
      Of course, if you had the chance to talk to a human, you would have more chances of getting what you want.
      I paid for the shipping within the first hour they launched. So I was one of the "early birds". I have not heard from them since. Worse: Sent a ticket to their system asking about shipping, called to all their phone numbers, sent an email to her personal assistant Nancy Fahey, that maybe it's just a computer he calls Nancy. And I even checked if I was subscribed to anything: Went to the cancelmetoday.com site (another of the "non human ways" Mike uses to unsubscribe. Just to check if I was subscribed to anything. No subscription to cancel was there. Maybe because they have not shipped yet? Who knows, there is no human to answer you. Mike exploits the idea that if you don't have anybody to talk to, you will most probably abandon the idea of unsubscribing, or that you will forget about them and let them "manipulate your credit card at their will" Or is it that they are too busy to send a human explanation? Well, machines are not that busy. Are they? They could even set an autoresponder telling you when they are shipping, couldn't they?
      It is perfect obvious to me that there is a certain degree of manipulation of the client to discourage him from doing things. Well, it does have an effect Mike, it discourages people to believe in you.
      I do hope they send me an email, a "humanized email" telling me what they are thinking of doing with the $ 15.00 bucks they charged me for that shipping.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizz_man
    I found 7FC to be a great course, I got a copy when it first came out well worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JaimeCruzM
    Thanks folks for all postings to let us know the pros and cons of this 7 figure code
    this is the only way that we can find out if a product worth the risk or not
    Good luck to all
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    I still haven't received anything through the post, I ordered on the 15th!!
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