by Dexx
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Anyone else get email on this thing?

Dramatically Increase Your Website Traffic Today with the Web 2 Mayhem

It's by the same guys that made TrafficKahuna, PPC Kahuna, and PortalFeeder, looks like they've came up with their own Automated Software to "end all automated software" programs.

Doesnt seem like there's ever been much for issues or concerns with their previous software programs, (which hasn't been the case for other "automated" programs) so I'm excited to see how this goes!

Anyone else get emails on it?
#geyser #killer #senuke #traffic #web2mayhem
  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Yep, I got the email too.

    Not sure how it's different to the other software programs though.

    Gurpreet


    Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

    Anyone else get email on this thing?

    Dramatically Increase Your Website Traffic Today with the Web 2 Mayhem

    It's by the same guys that made TrafficKahuna, PPC Kahuna, and PortalFeeder, looks like they've came up with their own Automated Software to "end all automated software" programs.

    Doesnt seem like there's ever been much for issues or concerns with their previous software programs, (which hasn't been the case for other "automated" programs) so I'm excited to see how this goes!

    Anyone else get emails on it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    i think THE biggest difference is access to their private SyndicateKahuna network which is basically like having an SENuke membership combined with LinkVana for a fraction of the cost.

    There's also a PAD software submitter which probably works off a similar idea that was used by the guy from JohnCow to get 4 Page 1 google rankings in 18hours or something:

    4 Rankings of Page One of Google in Less than 18 Hours – Took Me 22 Minutes ONLY! | Johncow.com
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    • Profile picture of the author bnmguy
      Yes, there are all of these things in the Program. And actually, one of the creators IS the guy from John Cow.

      I was a Beta Tester for the program and I love it. It's really worth every penny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    bnmguy,

    How automated is the software then?

    Also, how long does it take to complete one full run of it?
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    • Profile picture of the author brainworker
      I just joined yesterday -- overall very impressive stuffs inside.

      If tt it works I should be able to fire SeNuke, 1 way links, 3 way links etc.

      Will share more details here

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  • Profile picture of the author rhab
    I'd be interested in hearing from an SENuke owner who has also had the opportunity to try this. Obviously the comparison will come up eventually. I currently have SENuke myself.

    With a couple additional features, this system sounds like it could potentially be better. Using both of course is nice I'm sure, but I don't see the need for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author donnyh
      Oh man, just tried the automated software. Can't believe they actually launched this.

      You sure Peter Drew didn't come up with this? Because I couldn't get a single submission to go through successfully. Kept getting the message "Looks like something went wrong" and then the whole thing shuts down. Failure after failure. No multi-threading either, so you can only attempt to do one website at a time. The user interface is straight up childish. So many spelling mistakes. And you have to go through "Step 1" of account creation... then "Step 2". Where's the automation in that? And where's the automatic email verification? Looks like there isn't any.

      If you wanna stop the program there's no way to even stop it? You have to shut down the entire software. Seriously? The stop button is greyed out. Plus their site list is tiny compared to SEnuke's. If they wanna compete with that monster, they have a long way to go.

      I want a refund. How come they don't offer a free trial like SEnuke so that people can test it out before having to shell out the $127?

      I'm sure this package is good for all the other bonuses that come with it, but if you really care about automation software to create and post to Web 2.0 properties, stick with SEnuke for now. Looks like it will probably take these guys a year to catch up.
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      • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
        Did you read the instructions lol... you need to have your UAC turned off for it to work.

        If you are running vista or windows 7 you need to do the following to allow the software to run:

        Make sure that you are logged in as an administrator

        Global Instructions:

        1. go to "Control Panel"
        2. then "User Accounts"
        3. then again "User Accounts"
        4. then, "Turn User Account Control" and set it to Off
        5. restart your computer.

        Do this and it will work like a charm
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        • Profile picture of the author donnyh
          Originally Posted by canuck1972 View Post

          Did you read the instructions lol... you need to have your UAC turned off for it to work.

          If you are running vista or windows 7 you need to do the following to allow the software to run:

          Make sure that you are logged in as an administrator

          Global Instructions:

          1. go to "Control Panel"
          2. then "User Accounts"
          3. then again "User Accounts"
          4. then, "Turn User Account Control" and set it to Off
          5. restart your computer.

          Do this and it will work like a charm
          Yes I read the instructions. I'm on XP, so that doesn't apply to me. And no it doesn't "work like a charm". These bugs are with the software itself. Not a "user accounts" toggle that can fix everything magically. I have a lot of experience with designing software so please don't ridicule me like that.
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          • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
            No one is ridiculing you, the software is not new and it is not full of bugs... I was laughing cause you seemed all too eager to slam it without even giving it a chance... it is not full of bugs liek you say but i am not going to argue.

            The fact is no software works perfect on everyones machine, right away but if you are not happy with it ask for a refund. We will be quick to honor it.

            I have to ask though, did you even put a support request in, cause there is no one else complaining about your issue... and i see no ticket in support.
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            • Profile picture of the author wrays
              Hello JohnCow,

              May I ask you a question...??

              In the Web 2 Mayhem sales page, it mentions the following.....

              "Article Distributor -- Yes, article submissions work. Especially when you use our content tools to create Googlicious content."

              My question is.....

              Do we need to fork out additional money to buy the "content creation" tool??

              Cheers,
              wrays.
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              • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
                Originally Posted by wrays View Post

                Hello JohnCow,

                May I ask you a question...??

                In the Web 2 Mayhem sales page, it mentions the following.....

                "Article Distributor -- Yes, article submissions work. Especially when you use our content tools to create Googlicious content."

                My question is.....

                Do we need to fork out additional money to buy the "content creation" tool??

                Cheers,
                wrays.
                Nope... there are no additional costs for any of our tools. We do however have api integrations with decaptcher and spinning services ike autojetspinner... so if you want to integrate them can can pay for them and use them, but our content tool is part of the package.
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      • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
        Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post

        Donny it'd help if you bought the recaotchas to save yourself the aggravation during account creations.

        John, software needs a skip button when it gets hung up on an account creation or submissions, in addition to the continue and Go buttons.

        Donny, my submissions went through ok as did most account creations.

        John, software needs an email creator and auto verification of registration set up.

        The step 1,2, and 3 blueprint and diagrams are excellent very straightforward good job on that part.

        Thanks,

        Dan
        Thanks for the feedback and the kudos on the training... it has an email creator but with so many services not accepting gmail now we pulled it. Reworking it and going to include the auto-verification with it too... got a plan

        Your idea of the software needs a skip button when it gets hung up on an account creation or submissions, in addition to the continue and Go buttons. Got it and YES.. love fresh eyes looking at it.
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        • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
          Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post

          No problem...

          I contacted you via your blog today to do an interview about this... but perhaps I'd better use it for a while so I have better questions, looking to create a "best practice/getting started " if/when I recommend this to people.

          Hope you understand the jury's still out since I only joined today....

          Question for you, Web2 members, what Syndicate Kahuna network are we gaining access to, the same one that's available for free, or was available for free at one point or a larger network?

          Good news on the email creator thing, I didn't get much done with Web2Mayhem today because I've used all my email addys up already.

          You can contact me on my skype to hear about some other additions you'd want to include with web2 that would make me promote this and recommend this without hesitation..

          Hint; you're not doing it nor coming anywhere's near doing it with Web2, but obviously can be done quite easily.

          Also, you probably want to add in another articlefeeder profile for twitter feed syndication since you're hammering twitterffed and twitter with a lot of auto re tweets and causing some bandwidth issues for them (I actually saw this when I was googling some article titles from ArticleFeeder and saw the Twitter real time search results for the article titles)

          Hope that makes sense

          Thanks again,

          Dan
          Dan I would love to talk with you... give me a couple days though, how about early next week.

          There still is a free SK but that is for adding your blogs, there is no free use for publishing your content. We closed SK down because we revamped it and tied it into web2mayhem, we will be reopening it for good very soon... do not want to get too distracted.

          I am putting some cool training together to help people add their blog to SK as a content source and take advantage of the free content... giving a marketing plan and will include a few tools as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author wrays
          Hi Dan,

          Thanks for sharing some great info...

          By the way, what is "email addys"???

          Is this some kind of alias or fake email??

          - wrays.


          Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post


          Good news on the email creator thing, I didn't get much done with Web2Mayhem today because I've used all my email addys up already.

          Dan
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          • Profile picture of the author scarob2
            I just wanted to chime in here. I have been a member of Syndicate Kahunna for just over a year. From my experience, a lot of the blogs in their network are newer, low rank blogs, but every once in a while, a real good one shows up. I learned this from looking at Yahoo Site explorer.

            With that being said, there is a reason I renewed. Even if only 20% of the blogs are aged and high ranked, that's still a big boost to your rankings. And even the lesser blogs are still providing a one way backlink. And that's still a good thing.

            I haven't joined W2M yet because I just renewed SK for a whole year and I am trying to convince them to give me a discount based on that.

            I also have Brute Force Evo2. That works great, so far. Between the 2 of them, I'm getting a lot of backlinks.

            I haven't tried SENuke. I haven't needed to. Maybe I should someday.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dexx
              How much is SK normally each year? (since its included in the W2M fees)

              Also, having used the SK blog myself with W2M, even though there might be some newer/low PR blogs in the network, each blog has content and is INDEXED in Google, which means Google will find your links on them.

              The same cant be said for most Web Directories, and most of the blog networks, where you could have you link posted on hundreds of pages, but if Google never crawls those pages, you'll never get indexed.

              Blogs in the SK network get a constant drip of fresh/unique content (that has been reviewed and approved by Admins) which brings Google coming back on a very high basis to check what new things have been added to each blog =)

              I only say this because I recently had two videos (which I promoted through W2M) land #4/#5 on Google for "[product] review" of a product I'm promoting right now...there's 8 sponsored listings on the first page and I've already had over 300 views.

              There is over 260,000+ competing pages for the phrase, and it took me ONE submission through SK of both video links to get the ranking.

              Just saying =)

              Edit: Don't get me wrong, by no means do I care whether people sign-up for W2M or not (since its less competition for me) but I've been a Warrior here since 2007 and since this is the Warrior Forum's product review area, I want to make sure quality products get the true credit they deserve...

              ...I've signed up (and cancelled) with SENuke TWICE...Linkvana for 3-4 months...signed up with Traffic Geyser and left in my 2nd month...

              I just don't want anyone else to have to "trial and error" there way to results is all, but hey...feel free to do what I did anyway, I'll be using W2M in the meantime heh
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              • Profile picture of the author scarob2
                Syndicate Kahunna is $442 for the year. The monthly fee is $47, I think.

                I appreciate the input on SENuke. I've also thought about trying Linkvanna (I think thats the name), but they are a little pricy for my blood.
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                • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
                  Originally Posted by scarob2 View Post

                  Syndicate Kahunna is $442 for the year. The monthly fee is $47, I think.

                  I appreciate the input on SENuke. I've also thought about trying Linkvanna (I think thats the name), but they are a little pricy for my blood.
                  We will be opening the doors to SK permanently in the new year for $47 a month... we closed it because we were redoing the whole backend system with it.. then wanted it tested out again before we reopen. There are however some limitations with it that Web2Mayhem members will not have... but I will share more on that once i have 100% of everything worked out.
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                  • Profile picture of the author scarob2
                    Originally Posted by canuck1972 View Post

                    We will be opening the doors to SK permanently in the new year for $47 a month... we closed it because we were redoing the whole backend system with it.. then wanted it tested out again before we reopen. There are however some limitations with it that Web2Mayhem members will not have... but I will share more on that once i have 100% of everything worked out.
                    Here is a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I have an account with ContentBoss and I love what it does. It rewrites an article and even can format it for spinning. The best part is that, unlike most article spinners, the articles actually make sense afterward.

                    Does W2M's spinner do both of these things? If not, which one does it do?
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                    • Profile picture of the author scarob2
                      Originally Posted by scarob2 View Post

                      Here is a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I have an account with ContentBoss and I love what it does. It rewrites an article and even can format it for spinning. The best part is that, unlike most article spinners, the articles actually make sense afterward.

                      Does W2M's spinner do both of these things? If not, which one does it do?
                      I still have no answer to this question. Does anyone have any input?
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                      • Profile picture of the author waynez
                        Originally Posted by scarob2 View Post

                        I still have no answer to this question. Does anyone have any input?
                        Actually, ContentBoss works very well with the W2M spinner.

                        Here is what stated in the membership regarding ContentBoss :

                        Auto Spin: This is where you enter your username and password for you ContentBoss account. This allows you to use the "Auto Spin" feature. There is a monthly fee with this service that is not part of Syndicate Kahuna and we are in no way related to this service. We simply provide access through the use of their API.
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  • Profile picture of the author jswanson
    Web2Mayhem sounds like a really interesting program. But I agree with others, it would be nice to see a 7 day free trial like other programs out there are offering. Or, at least, some videos showing how it works. I just feel like I need more info before making a purchase.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhab
      I'll keep my eye out on the feedback as it comes out from warriors who try this out. Personally, with a system like this at this price tag, not offering a trial period really puts me off. I also don't like that the sales page was nothing but text, I don't know about everyone else but I would have liked to seen some video and some screenshots. I'm sure you'll honor refunds, but not allowing people to take this for a test drive I think will hurt sales a bit.

      If the promoters of this system are putting their product up against the other big dogs, especially SENuke which is tried and proven, I highly suggest offering a trial period and letting us see under the hood.

      If you cancelled all the traffic-getting services you use now, you'd actually save money by joining Web2Mayhem. Plus, you can be rest assured that you won't have to buy another service, software or ebook once you become a member of Web2Mayhem.
      That sounds really good, and if all the features are as good as promoted on the sales page, I'd definitely be interested. But again, the majority of the sales page are glowing testimonials, and that's just not gonna cut it for me and I'm sure the majority of warriors here.

      If this thing is as good as it's cracked up to be, you can't go wrong with the standard $1 / $7 free trial period...
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    I thought the same thing. With SENuke anf BFSEO Evo 2 already out there, Incansoft having announced an upcoming all-in-one automation package and SEOmated being another one already announced, my first thought when Web2Mayhem was "revealed" was "what else is new?"

    I'd also have to see video demos or preferably get a trial to be convinced. Especially at that price.

    Definitely looking forward to seeing some reviews/opinions etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    Waiting for a trial period... If it performs as stated it can only help sales.

    I don't trust sales pages, especially ones without video and definitely for an app like this.

    If not it seems they are counting on people not canceling, aka Red Flag.
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    • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
      Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

      Waiting for a trial period... If it performs as stated it can only help sales.

      I don't trust sales pages, especially ones without video and definitely for an app like this.

      If not it seems they are counting on people not canceling, aka Red Flag.
      We are split testing the hell out of the landing page... yes we are going to be testing video as well. Believe me... the testimonials are real, the results are real and this is a cool system (yes i am biased.. lol). Anyway, i honestly appreciate the feedback on stuff for the sales letter... its not going unnoticed... we have lots of things we are testing. Sadly even with the FTC stuff people still don't trust testimonials.

      Anyway, you will be able to see inside soon enough
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      • Profile picture of the author dominodivine
        I like what the software has to offer but I would also like a trail... or at least some sort of video showing the product being used.

        I dont think it is a lot to ask with the monthly price tag.

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  • Profile picture of the author rhab
    Sounds good, even before the FTC thing testimonials didn't hold water much for me, need to have more =p

    Glad to hear you're working towards incorporating the video and screens. The system really does sound good, which is why I'd love to try it out as it could potentially replace other things I'm using.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjcali
    Dexx - I tried SENuke for a 4 months and Traffic Geyser for 3 months. Both did not offer the value that I was hoping for.

    What kind of results are you getting from W2M?

    Do you use any tools from Big Mike?
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    I just want to let anyone interested know that I am currently testing W2M.

    So far, I'm quite impressed with the sheer scope of it. There are way more tools and material in there than I had expected.
    This also means that it will take me a while to really test everything out and be able to publish a proper review.
    I'll be making some videos along the way, so for everyone willing to wait a little longer, I'll be trying to get relevant information and test results out there as quickly as I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author samcarson
    I think the price is quite high especially since it's recurring
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by samcarson View Post

      I think the price is quite high especially since it's recurring
      Software Support + Cost of Further Software Development (Programming Costs) dont come cheap.

      At the end of the day, unless you plan to actually take action and use the software...you're better off with a one-time payment software that you can touch once every three months (when you remember to use it)

      If you actually focus, and dont get distracted, you pick an affiliate product with a $30 - $40 commission and by simply promoting it via W2M, you would be able to cover the monthly membership fee from 4-5 sales each month.

      I think those that are serious about affiliate marketing, and actually take action (instead of buying the "latest tool") will find W2M gets them results.

      Like I said, I just did a test promotion with W2M and the results spoke for themselves:

      I only say this because I recently had two videos (which I promoted through W2M) land #4/#5 on Google for "[product] review" of a product I'm promoting right now...there's 8 sponsored listings on the first page and I've already had over 300 views.

      There is over 260,000+ competing pages for the phrase, and it took me ONE submission through SK of both video links to get the ranking.

      Just saying =)
      Now I'm actually in the process of building an authority website in my local offline niche (hope to finish it this weekend) at which point I plan to go after the Top ranking for my local google searches (SEO, search engine marketing, website design etc.)

      At which point I'll come back and let you know the results!

      What I truly love about W2M, is the fact that the entire system is designed to be a white-hat as possible.

      Could black-hatters abuse it? Maybe.

      But it would affect their sites, as they would have suspiciously vast growth.

      But the system is broken down into phases, so that those who WANT their rankings to stick AND last, can obtain natural backlinks in a naturally growing way.

      That and Jason K is constantly coming up with fresh training to improve results using the various tools...rumor has it there's a couple new tools being added to W2M in the near future which Jason has been testing himself and getting mindblowing results.

      But ya...at the end of the day...the true affiliate marketers know that this tool gets results for those that use it. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Johncpu
    Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

    Doesnt seem like there's ever been much for issues or concerns with their previous software programs, (which hasn't been the case for other "automated" programs) so I'm excited to see how this goes!
    Dont be so sure about that. I was part of the PortalFeeder crowd. So when I read the sales pagefor Web2Mayhem, I had to chuckle, especuially when I read the tagline: "STOP Wasting Your Time & Money with Garbage Ebooks & Software That Promise You Massive Traffic But Only Leave You More Confused & Frustrated Than Ever!"

    I dont want to trash either product, but let me just offer a caution: the PF forum was filled with people having a difficult time getting things to do what they wanted. And I kept a list of many of the sites that were openly shared. Almost none of them are still around.

    That was PF, and just maybe Web2Mayhem will be a great improvement. I hope so.

    J
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    • Profile picture of the author waynez
      I am also one of the member. Did join a few days ago.

      My impression so far... Not very good to very unhappy. Maybe in between of those 2.

      It's not about the result, since I didn't have any just yet (well.. I only joined a few days ago). But it's about the WORTH of each tools combined altogether AT that price, also the "difficulty" of using the software. I ended up spending more time tweaking, testing, configuring this and that, than actually USING it.

      But yeah, maybe it's still too early to judge everything. I still got time to playing around the tools. The trainings are good, covering lots of aspect on SEO, but you won't learn that much if you already know what basic SEO is.

      I will come back again and tell how it goes for me in the next few days.
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      • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
        Originally Posted by waynez View Post

        I am also one of the member. Did join a few days ago.

        My impression so far... Not very good to very unhappy. Maybe in between of those 2.

        It's not about the result, since I didn't have any just yet (well.. I only joined a few days ago). But it's about the WORTH of each tools combined altogether AT that price, also the "difficulty" of using the software. I ended up spending more time tweaking, testing, configuring this and that, than actually USING it.

        But yeah, maybe it's still too early to judge everything. I still got time to playing around the tools. The trainings are good, covering lots of aspect on SEO, but you won't learn that much if you already know what basic SEO is.

        I will come back again and tell how it goes for me in the next few days.
        Sorry you are having difficulty getting started but it is about getting into a groove. I will be the first to admit this might not be for everyone but i guarantee you that once you go through the full process (3 phase promo), not only will your results be noticeable but it will be very easy to use.
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    • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
      Originally Posted by Johncpu View Post

      Dont be so sure about that. I was part of the PortalFeeder crowd. So when I read the sales pagefor Web2Mayhem, I had to chuckle, especuially when I read the tagline: "STOP Wasting Your Time & Money with Garbage Ebooks & Software That Promise You Massive Traffic But Only Leave You More Confused & Frustrated Than Ever!"

      I dont want to trash either product, but let me just offer a caution: the PF forum was filled with people having a difficult time getting things to do what they wanted. And I kept a list of many of the sites that were openly shared. Almost none of them are still around.

      That was PF, and just maybe Web2Mayhem will be a great improvement. I hope so.

      J
      When were you a member... first of all every site i used as live examples in the training are still alive and making money. As for the sites you are referring too. When you say sites openly shared... by who ... me or someone else, cause all my shared sites are still around.

      As for what users have.. it comes down to the 80/20 rule... so ya, 80% of the sites might now be around... which is pretty much the case for any program around today. Some make it, others dont... the ones that do you focus on and improve, the ones that dont you let die.

      There are members that have been with PF since December 2005 and pay a monthy fee every month and are making excellent money... so it obviously works for some.

      Anyway for 100% of any the programs out there, can you name one that does not have a learning curve? Does not matter what the program is, it is not a magic button, you need to figure it out... the training i say even spells that out clearly. It will take a while to go through it the first couple of times but then it will get easier and easier and faster and faster.

      Anyway, i know not everyone will be happy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Johncpu
        Originally Posted by canuck1972 View Post

        When were you a member... first of all every site i used as live examples in the training are still alive and making money. As for the sites you are referring too. When you say sites openly shared... by who ... me or someone else, cause all my shared sites are still around..
        I was a member when if first started, and I wasn't referring to the site used as an example by Jason and team. The sites Iam talking about were shared in the forum by users who wanted critiques or who were desparate for someone to help them make it work.

        As for what users have.. it comes down to the 80/20 rule... so ya, 80% of the sites might now be around... which is pretty much the case for any program around today. Some make it, others dont... the ones that do you focus on and improve, the ones that dont you let die.

        There are members that have been with PF since December 2005 and pay a monthy fee every month and are making excellent money... so it obviously works for some..
        By my count the drop off rate was more like 50%. I bookmarked 30-35 sites from forum discussions, including a few I found in the SEs (it was very easy to identify a PF site) Of those 35. About 1/2 of those were gone within 3-6 months. Im sure there are still a few paying members. There is always somebody that will make money with just about any system.

        Anyway for 100% of any the programs out there, can you name one that does not have a learning curve? Does not matter what the program is, it is not a magic button, you need to figure it out...

        Anyway, i know not everyone will be happy.
        It wasn't about just a "learning curve". In my view, the software was extremely buggy, and based upon forum discussion, very tedious to use for lots of people. I just couldnt help but wonder if the new Web2Mayhem sales page wasnt subconsciously referring to PF when refering to other software that "Promise You Massive Traffic But Only Leave You More Confused & Frustrated Than Ever"

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        • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
          1. that was a spelling.. it was meant to say:

          "80% of the sites might NOT be around"

          2. You are referring to sites from early 2006... 4 years ago... strategies change and that technology is out dated, pretty much any system (xsite pro, content desk or anything similar) that build sites back then had a different system.

          I am not going to defend PF here, obviously you did not have a good experience and you seem to remember a lot of the negative.. which is pretty much normal for someone with a bad experience. So that being said, you are right.. for you it was a bad experience and i apologize for that... wish it wasn't.

          One thing to consider however, is you seemed to overlook TrafficKahuna and PPCKahuna and how well those were received right away... yes PF did not go smooth but you are jumping 4 years and not looking at improvements in between.

          Anyway, wish you luck and wonder.. are you full time and making a good living now with IM?
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          • Profile picture of the author wayne60618
            I am a member and here is my view on things. Let me preface this that I have not gotten some aspects of Web2Mayhem software to work for me. Support was very quick to respond. The issues have not been resolved, but part of that is my fault as I have not been working with support past the first few emails. I just haven't had time to deal with it...Now, I do expect this stuff to work and I hate having my time sucked into dealing with these types of issues, but I could be more aggressive getting it solved.

            Ok, the good. The training is very good due to the detail. The strategy is sound. It's basically about using various linking strategies like, RSS, PAD submission, video submission, article submission, and blog submissions. Add to that social bookmarking...Obviously this stuff works, but it can be time consuming to set all this up and then promote the promoters.

            The software helps to automate this, but it's not a entirely automated solution...Probably good as too much automation is easily detectable. I'm not a huge fan of the spinner. The profile creator is a auto populator which is useful. It would be great if there was more orginzation to the profiles, like parent child relations, tying them to various projects etc and you sort of can with some creativity with your naming conventions.

            Not sure about the membership long term. I already use AMA and don't really need another blog network. Alot of the other stuff I can do with IM Revolution and it's proven to be easier to use and encapsulated in one piece of software as opposed to using multiple disparate tools...Although I don't like the spinner in that much either, but it only a one time cost.

            As to results, I can't offer anything here other than to say the strategy does make sense and I can see where someone who diligently applies the process will get results.

            Wayne
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            • Profile picture of the author abs007
              Sounds very interesting - I currently use senuke and Linking loophole. I do my software submission myself so I can see the pad generator being a big plus in this software. I also lack blog comments so can see comment kahuna really adding some value - However I have used CK before when it was available free of charge - I couldnt really get my head around it - TBH I didnt spend much time on it.

              However I realize how important it is to have blog comments so when CK is available to us again then I will certainly give it another go but this time spend some time to work with it.

              I would also love a trial run of the new Web2Mayhem software either a free trial or a reduced rate to check it out. If you can not do a free trial then maybe divide the cost by 4 and do a weeks subscription for all that want to test it.

              Senuke is working great for me and can not really see me leaving them unless I can get more or less the same service elsewhere. I think they will be adding Press release soon which is a big plus.

              However im extremely keen to make use of CK

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              • Profile picture of the author rhab
                I got the latest email about limited quantities... I am understanding that the limited quantities are the fast action bonuses correct?

                You're not "closing your doors" to the membership right? As it does seem from comments within this thread that you do plan to offer a trial setup. I'm so tempted just to join up now since I do see you offering a 100% money back guarantee, but have to think it over a bit more.

                Thanks...
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        • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
          Sorry for the late reply... ya that is just about the fast action bonuses.

          We are still not 100% on the trail membership and to be honest the reason is due to demand on our resources. For example our blog network that has thousands of blogs is an extremely powerful tool but if we suddenly flood it with $1 trial members then it could cause issues.

          You see we control and moderate the content (each article is manually approved before being sent out) and there are limits to how many post the blogs accept, some only accept 1 and others a max of 10 per day... and we honestly already have more members then we really thought we would get for the time of year we launched.

          But to be 100% honest the biggest issue right now is having clear minds to set this out. I am 90% sure i will be offering some sort of trial offer but what that actually involved and when... well i cant answer that... i do know however that there will be some restrictions applied such as limiting the blog network submissions.

          Anyway... hope you are all having an wonderful holiday season.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhab
    Daniel makes the point that my original inquiry was looking for. The system was just released openly and I certainly do not expect to hear detailed reviews of the effectiveness regarding rankings yet from people who just signed up in the past couple days.

    That being said I can expect and accept that after a few days ranking a long tail with good competition numbers would be possible. Long term and bigger projects however are another story. Each of us could do this and have done it manually.

    Bottom line is I'm not concerned over whether or not the system or tools will achieve rankings. There are no secrets about what they are and both this system, SENuke, Brute Force and the others are simply automated or semi-automated tools to do what we do anyway to achieve rankings. So we know the tried and true methods behind the systems will work if used.

    These tools are all great IF you've done the proper research for your keywords and niches, otherwise they are worthless.

    What I'm wondering is do they carry out their functions properly, smoothly, what issues are there, how does it compare with other programs of similar nature. Primarily for me SENuke since I use that myself. I'm sure everyone remembers how buggy SENuke was in the beginning.

    I'm not going to give up SENuke to endure growing pains of another similar program. However, if this program has other additional features that are a step beyond SENuke for instance, and the other systems are not full of issues, then maybe it's a fair trade off.

    Daniel, looking forward to checking out your current review on it as from recently finding your blog, your reviews are excellent as you also include comparisons which help in deciding if a program or service is worth it or not.

    For the current reviews, very appreciative of them as well. What would add even more value to those reviews would be commenting on the user side experience and how well the tools are actually performing and carrying out their functions, what is lacking, etc... Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author waynez
    Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post

    And try it for 3 months before giving any feedback, who cares how hard or easy the tools are to use, seriously, that's not the review people are looking for...
    Well, at least I CARE..

    If the software claims to have all OR most of the tedious and repeated task done by automation, then be it. At least that's what I expected when joining the memberships.

    I know this kind of system work. Like everyone here does. Just the same as Linkvana, BacklinkSolution, MyArticleNetwork, SE Nuke etc, they work when we use them. The question is, which one is the BEST and the EASIEST to use.

    I didn't intend to give a review or make a recommendation etc. Just came here to share my impression about the system. I don't think that I did mislead anyone because I clearly stated that "it's too early for me to judge bla2.."

    So if anyone did find my post above is rubbish, just ignore it. We have the greatest reviewer on the planet here, so let's just listen to him.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    I thought someone said there was some sort of trial to the software?

    I've got a slew of people in different programs of ours asking about this software - so, if there is a way to "try it out" can someone point me to a link?
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    • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
      Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

      I thought someone said there was some sort of trial to the software?

      I've got a slew of people in different programs of ours asking about this software - so, if there is a way to "try it out" can someone point me to a link?
      No trial set up right now... the biggest reason s we did not want to get too bombarded with people in the blog network right away. We will be doing something with a trial in a few weeks probably. I will keep you all posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author freudianslip27
    SENuke has been very good to me, but of course I am willing to give this a chance. A free or cheap trial is really needed though to get myself and others like me onboard to give it a shot.

    This stuff is great for local business rankings.

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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    I've just completed a video that goes through all of the features included in W2M. So, if you've ever wanted to know exactly what tools and services are included, give this a go:


    I am currently testing every aspect of W2M for an upcoming review.
    I would love to get some input from you. Do you have specific questions regarding W2M, that you would want to see answered in a review? Anything you would like to see demonstrated or explained on video?

    I was initially planning to do videos for each of the features, like I did with SEO Elite, but in W2M, there's just too many of them. I'd have to do about 20 videos just to cover everything. So, it would be great if I could find out what exactly people want to know, so I can pick the best/most relevant stuff to include in videos.
    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Wow Shane! Very detailed review, well done!
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    • Profile picture of the author rhab
      Nice job Shane, web2mayhem should have paid you to help them with their sales page =p

      I'm looking forward to your coverage on the web 2.0 element you mentioned. I'm also wondering if the account creation in web2mayhem is as automated and as smooth as it is in SEnuke. A video showing this process would be nice.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks, Dexx. (That's not the review yet, though)

    @rhab: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll make a video about the account creator.
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  • Profile picture of the author degcommunications
    Anyone know about any software or sites that offer these types of automation with the ability to manage hundreds of sites from one interface and upload my own content for scheduled uploading and such.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Do you mean your own sites like self-hosted WordPress blogs?
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      Here's another video showing off the auto-submission process to several sites, uncut:

      Shane,

      All three of your posted videos in this thread say:

      "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

      What gives?

      As a professional reviewer, you may want to look into getting an Amazon S3 account to host your videos instead of being at the mercy of the "free" YouTube (Google) platform.


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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks for the comments, guys! It's always good to know whether my videos are useful to anyone or not.

    honestbiz: In an other market (not IM), I've made a couple of videos for companies. It can be a bit of a pain in the ass to make videos according to someone else's ideas, so I'm very selective about who I work with and what projects I work on.

    But yes: I'm open to making videos for others.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks for the heads-up, Joe. I just noticed myself and was slightly shocked, to say the least.

    I sent an inquiry into this, since I didn't ever receive a warning and the videos are all original material etc. Don't know what's going on.

    Most of my videos are uploaded with at least four other hosts as well, but the W2M ones aren't yet, because I went over the distribution limit on TubeMogul for December.
    Will have them up and running again in a few hours, though.

    Again, thanks for messaging me.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Um... it seems to be back. Everything back to normal, except my subscribers were wiped.

    Still no word on why this happened.

    Here's my newest one:


    Working for everyone?

    For the videos on my site, I'll probably use S3 from now on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pat Lovell
    Does W2Mayhem give you the ability to create several User Profiles? What I mean is, I have multiple websites that have different email addresses, social accounts, etc... and I want the ability to work on one site, then change profiles to another. Is this possible?

    I use SENuke but haven't found a way to make multiple profiles for my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Yes, you can create multiple "identities" and do seperate account creation runs for each of them.

    For the submissions, you then simply choose for which profile you want to submit your articles/videos/whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Here's my final verdict on Web2Mayhem, delivered in short, easily-digestible video form.


    Cheers,
    Shane
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    • Profile picture of the author maverick4u
      Nice balanced review. I wish I could find more reviews like this. Do you have any plans to review Linkdozer? It looks like it could be a killer system although less automated than SENuke and Web2mayhem.

      Incidentally I tried getting on your site RichQuickReview but it doesn't seem to want to load.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeromyS
      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      Here's my final verdict on Web2Mayhem, delivered in short, easily-digestible video form.

      YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

      Cheers,
      Shane
      This video says it all, pretty much. There is a lot of power overall in Web2mayhem, but there have been some frustrations. I ran into the same thing you talk about on this video, the account creator issue. I ran it through the first time, and of course had quite a few conflicts because I did have accounts at many of the site registered either to my email or to my user name. The next run I chose a brand new email and username. I still ran into some problems (less than the first run) and subsequently couldn't use the tool for a number of sites with the user settings. It would be nice to see this added as a feature (and I wouldn't be surprised to see it), the ability to add a different password, username or email to individual sites. I also think it would be handy to be able to filter the sites out a bit, filter completed, option to hide sites from the list, etc, but thats me being picky. Overall this software is very powerful and it is great to see them keep adding new sites. They are on this thing, its updating often. But only other grip would be the price, over the duration of a year, it adds up to a lot of money.
      You have done a great job of reviewing this product. If only every review would be so honest and detailed.
      Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    Thanks for the tip about Linkdozer, I'll have a look into that.

    Yeah, RQR is not accessible right now. No idea why (certainly not something I did). Hosting support is looking into it. Thanks for pointing it out.

    EDIT: RQR is back up again.
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  • Profile picture of the author sgooey
    Will Web2Mayhem offer any specials for WF War Room members?
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  • Profile picture of the author areaK
    Glad I found this thread. I've had Web2Mayhem for a while now but the downloadable automated tool (the actual Web2Mayhem part) doesn't work well for me. Fails way too much, I can create and submit more by hand because it fails so often (had the same problem when I originally got it and tried it). I am going to run another test on it soon and will see if it does any better this time. (and I'm running XP)

    And it seems some of the article submissions that do go through leave parts of the spin code in there that I have to fix by hand; I HATE that it doesn't run in the background so I can't even accomplish anything else while it's 'trying' to run...a sound that it needs your attention (potentially even a small pop up window that's unobtrusive) would be WAY better because I don't like having to just sit, wait and watch...and watch it fail over and over particularly. It's quite clunky and I hope to see it get better.

    Now the inside/online tools I love. They are my fav parts of my membership and I would have discontinued long ago if not for them. (even though the article submission part of that annoys me too, HATE TOKENS, they're very annoying and much easier to mess up than regular html code (which is the reason they are supposedly used over allowing you to just insert regular html code) so I'd really like to see that change too.

    Hope it gets better, less clunky, more successful, and easier to use as far as those tokens =) Could be the most awesome thing on the planet then.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    Want a cheaper way you might consider using

    1. Roboform - logins in all you 2.0 property's, never gets hung up, and you take a few extra minutes to set up the site better then all these high priced monthlys do.

    2. RSSBot 8.95 when on sale - works like theirs just a one time fee

    3. Socialbot - 8.95 when on sale also a one time fee

    4. Padbot - also a onetime fee

    Yes its a little bit longer but, it saves a fortune in the long run and if you invested the money in good original content probaly be more or as effective as.

    And for most that say they do not have all the extra time for a few more steps..................stop wasting time reading junk and getting off course. We are all guilty of this. These high priced seo services are fine but they really take advatage of us wanting to be lazy. It would be nice to have a good service, more reasonable in pricing then 100+ dollars a month and actually work without us being ginny pigs paying to use it. Value, it works right, always, and for less with out any one being able to spend resources not being able to try things. But for all those that just got to push the paypal button hoping for the best as stated before Big Mike is putting together a one stop seo item and it will be more reasonably priced then many others. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProdigy
    Hmm...sounds like I'll be holding off on this until all the bugs get fixed.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    About the spin-code: W2M does not support nested spinning (spinning within spinning). I have no idea why, but I guess that's the reason you got a submission with spin-code left over in the articles. Always check several previews before you submit.
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    • Profile picture of the author areaK
      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      About the spin-code: W2M does not support nested spinning (spinning within spinning). I have no idea why, but I guess that's the reason you got a submission with spin-code left over in the articles. Always check several previews before you submit.
      It didn't contain nested spinning =) I didn't get it in every article but for some reason a piece or two would be in some of the articles...articles that would actually submit.
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  • Nice job on your review videos!

    Very well laid-out and you can tell that you have had experience with producing videos.

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  • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
    I am not sure if i can add this but since it was requested a bunch, Web2Mayhem now has the $1 trial so you can see what it is like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Butler
    Its been almost six month since its release can anyone post a review as to their results from using this for that period of time?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Wilson
      Originally Posted by Clint Butler View Post

      Its been almost six month since its release can anyone post a review as to their results from using this for that period of time?
      I can not offer a review of six months.
      I came upon W2M ages ago and I confess I ended up walking away, it was not what I was looking for, just as BruteForce, SEONuke, Linkwheel Builder and the Incansoft tools were not what the vendors might have wanted us to think they were. Like some of these tools, W2M has matured and grown.

      In the meantime I have used Brute Force, then EVO2, Linking Loophole, Ankur Sharma's Linkwheel builder and a metric shedload of Incansoft tools.

      I came back to W2M a few days ago vis Syndicate Kahuna.

      These are first impressions based upon several years of working in this field. BTW, I was and have been a PortalFeeder member since Day1, December 2005, I took down the last of my PF sites and updated them only a few months ago, they had been running since late 2005/early 2006. Not many of the tools we use last so long.

      Here's my thoughts about Web2Mayhem:

      1) there is a lot in the box

      2) there is a lot to get your head round

      3) the basic concepts are strong, basic principals tell me that the results from using the tools as per the training from Jason K and others will only NOT be good if the implementation by the user is poor.

      4) the account setup works very well, but one does need to give a second of thought to the usernames, but this is an issue common to this type of softwarea nd the W2M system works just - the second time. First time I was using names that were duplicated on some sites.

      By the way, on a partial run-through I got signups at 65 from 69 sites, a 94% success rate, with almost no intervention from me. It would have been a tad lower if I was away from the PC but the system enables one to go back and correct failures.

      5) the range of sites chosen is huge and balanced toward quality. Using this tool correctly one is not going to be spamming up Airfix Modelling forums with dog blanket sig lines. I see that the accounts will NOT need to be set up over and over again other than for maintenance purposes.

      6) I liked that each of the classes of sites can be used seperately or in concert.

      7) I like that when running the tool one is not submitting links for the vendor as seems to happen with another tool I tried.

      8) Doing the preparation for submissions takes more work (if done as per vendor instruction) than some other tools but this is in the aim of quality. One CAN also do submissions QBD (quick but dirty).
      I like that the emphasis is upon keeping accounts alive rather than slash and burn.

      9) I am having problems with the way windows keep popping up and interrupting my work, this baby is going to have to move over to another machine in a few hours. BTW, that is not possible with most of the tools that might compete in this space, here, no issues, W2M is nicely portable.

      10) I like that this is a set of tools that enable, they do not prescribe. By that I mean that I choose how to use the beast. I choose how to set it up, I control the quality of the input and output.

      11) the coders are obviously well up with maintaining the sites, they make it easy to report dead sites and to suggest new ones for addition. The database is updated several time a month, something I have seen nobody else doing.

      12) this is not a tool for the absolute newbie, even though the training makes it perfectly possible for newbies to use - frankly most will be scared off by the work involved and the thinking that goes into getting the best from the tool. If you know nothing and don't want to learn then EVO2 is the way to go. I will continue to recommend EVO2 and Linking Loophole to the right people.

      13) some in this thread have recommended the Incansoft tools. I use them and am a reseller of them. They are cheap and if you are a hobbyist or wanting to suppport a website that brings in leads for your VA business or speaker bureau then I'd not suggest anything other than the Incansoft tools. For these people, Web 2 Mayhem is overkill.
      If you are a dedicated tinkerer and twiddler then again, Incansoft rules. I fully expect to continue to recommend the Incansoft bots, but to the right people.

      So, I'd say give the low cost trial a whirl but 14 days may well not be enough unless you do as I am doing and spend time getting your elbows dirty. Use the support desk and the forum to ask questions, read the blueprints and implement them. The first couple of times you use the W2M software be prepared to sit down and watch what it is doing, I assure you that the time put in at the beginning will pay off in spades later on.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeromyS
      Originally Posted by Clint Butler View Post

      Its been almost six month since its release can anyone post a review as to their results from using this for that period of time?
      I was a member for a few months when they first launched. I think probably one of the most important things to realize with this type of tool is that you need content....and a lot of it. I found that the bulk of my time was spent preparing articles and such for submission.

      It is a great tool for creating accounts, you can pump them out all day long if you want, without too much trouble.
      I stopped using it because I didn't feel I was utilizing it enough to justify the price. Perhaps a side business of creating accounts for others (WSO perhaps) would help to offset the cost. And if you have employees to produce your content (quality is sooooo important, this is why IMO PF died, users submitting garbage content), or to run the software for you, or create and manage your sites, etc. Basically what I found is that I simply do not have the capacity to create my websites, write and spin articles and operate the software all on my own. I can, but as I say, it takes time and ultimately results in me not using the software as much as I think it should be used for the subscription cost. I wish there was a 'lite' version for people like myself that may not need to use the software more that a few times a month (once a week or so).

      There was nothing wrong with my results.

      I tested it the first run with a high competition keyword, just to see how it would do. With that promotion, which spanned a couple of weeks (part time) I was able to go from 1-30 hits a day to my site (PR 0) to around 100+ per day (lots of spiders) and PR 1. I ran a few other keywords through the same accounts with lower competition keywords and did realize some organic traffic. I didn't make any money off of these campaigns, but that was my own fault not the system. I didn't focus enough on 'buying' keywords.

      The real key here if you want this software to work for you, and it can work well in the right hands, is you must be reasonably intelligent (sorry, there is a lot to learn, a lot to understand and simple minds just won't get it). Smart Newbies can learn and work this, but expect to cram like your back in University, there is A LOT to learn. Also, this is for people that expect to work...no set and forget pitch here (I am of the mind that there isn't really a set a forget way to make money online). A person that expects to work and strives to product only quality will appreciate what W2M has to offer. If your lazy, or learn slowly, or don't have considerable time to invest, this tool is probably best to pass on.

      I really liked the software and service. My thought is to join again in the future. But I am waiting till I have a few different campaigns to use it to promote. Too bad there isn't a one time payment option, or a lower service level, I would be a lifer. I think what these guys have built is by far the best of its kind out there.

      I would be curious to know if anyone else has had the same experience as me?
      J
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  • Profile picture of the author shamlet
    Web2Mayhem is now offering a 14 day trial for just $1.00.

    Will give it a go and let you know what I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Is the online video upload/submission service working now?
    (It was announced as coming soon back in January)
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    • Profile picture of the author shamlet
      Have just completed the account creation for all of the various submissions which did include the video and all accounts were created.

      Have not submitted any videos yet, will let you know when I have.
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