Magic Bullet Launch is a coming!

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Get ready for another big promo coming your way for 2010.

Has everyone else been getting bombarded with emails about this amazing new video?

This brand new video takes you inside an unusual
business that's bringing in $14,121.97 per DAY
doing CPA marketing


I must of already received 10 to 15 emails about this 'amazing must see video", and I believe many of these people don't really know who Amish Shaw really is or what he does...but still they are so eager to promote his system that they know nothing about.

This whole "internet marketing whoring" thing is just getting so old with me. And hey, I have nothing bad to say about Amish, because this guy obviously knows his stuff when it comes to CPA marketing.

My beef is that I'm getting the same damn 'scripted' emails from people that have no business talking about this opportunity because they don't even know freakin about Amish or the cpa market themselves, but they feel so compelled to let us know about this 'great new and exciting video' that they miraculously found online, and they just couldn't wait to share this valuable information with us!

Please, please, please to all of you so called IM gurus out their with lists...can you please stop whoring yourselves out? The least you can do is change up the email that Amish gave you so you don't look so stupid!

Tobey
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  • Profile picture of the author Woody C
    I, too, got 4 e-mails about this yesterday...and all of them were the EXACT same scripted message (ok, the first line was different) with the EXACT same e-mail title.

    I'm also guessing this is also what I paid $9 to receive in the mail from Frank Kern. If it is, then I won't be a happy customer because I already have Core Influence.

    I wonder what Amish's "CPA Magic Bullet" System can teach us that can't already be learned on the Warrior Forum or in much cheaper WSOs.

    Anyone know anything about this?
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    • Profile picture of the author A Bary
      Originally Posted by George Stavrakakis View Post

      It is a 6 week CPA class plus software.

      Price: $2,997
      Well, that's why some marketers are offering their first born as a bonus for it:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author A Bary
        I don't know why people are whining about the price!!!

        He is selling it for $3000, or for $10,000!!! what's your problem??:confused:

        If you can afford it, well, congrats, if not, then why bashing about the price??

        I have to say, for the first time, I saw pre launch videos with real solid proof for income, with clear information about the money spent and the money gained (don't know why people are keep saying he is not showing how much he spends, because he did!!!!)

        from my side, I won't buy his course, because I learned a lesson over years, that the trial and error is the best way to learn in this business, I better spend these $3000 bucks on advertising, and I will learn alot ...

        my 2 cents
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        • Profile picture of the author Gotembakan
          It is true that anyone who has not actually purchased the product is not in a very good position to review it or offer an educated analysis of it. But the question remains, as was stated earlier, why would someone with such a powerful system, a system claimed to be a virtual money machine that prints money as soon as you set it up, want to share it with all of us?

          It reminds me of all those stock picking gurus who promise you that if you just subscribe to their newsletter or buy their software for several thousand dollars then you can quit your day job and buy a villa in the South of France. If these guys are generating that kind of money with their system then why do they want or need to sell it? Is it simply to help us, total stangers, be able to buy that villa in the South of France as well, or is it because the the virtual cash printing press they claim to have created is not generating enough cash for them?

          Just an honest question which should be asked by anyone who is contemplating handing over thousands of dollars for what purports to be something akin to Aladdin's lamp. Again, the product may be very good, but such claims of instant wealth should always be met with some skepticism to protect us from becoming part of the crowd that actually bites and swallows the claim. As P.T. Barnum instructed any would be promoter nearly 150 years ago, "Every crowd has a silver lining", we need to make sure we are not just some other promoter's silver lining for a product that does not live up to its promise. We can save a substantial amount of money in the process.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rock7
            Check out "Big Question #1" in the latest video.
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          • Profile picture of the author ComradeChen
            From what I see they are only offering the product to 500 people initially because that's all the room they had for their courses. (their words not mine)

            I don't know what their intentions are, but maybe if the product is solid and gets good reviews, it'll help their rep as internet marketing gurus?

            Frank Kern is promoting the product heavily and putting his reputation on the line so it's got to be worth something.

            It's either a $3000 one time payment or $800 monthly for 4 weeks.

            Personally I'm really debating at this point whether to get it or not, so if someone knows some good info about this that will help me make my decision, let me know!
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          • Profile picture of the author perswealth
            Originally Posted by Gotembakan View Post

            It is true that anyone who has not actually purchased the product is not in a very good position to review it or offer an educated analysis of it. But the question remains, as was stated earlier, why would someone with such a powerful system, a system claimed to be a virtual money machine that prints money as soon as you set it up, want to share it with all of us?

            It reminds me of all those stock picking gurus who promise you that if you just subscribe to their newsletter or buy their software for several thousand dollars then you can quit your day job and buy a villa in the South of France. If these guys are generating that kind of money with their system then why do they want or need to sell it? Is it simply to help us, total stangers, be able to buy that villa in the South of France as well, or is it because the the virtual cash printing press they claim to have created is not generating enough cash for them?

            Just an honest question which should be asked by anyone who is contemplating handing over thousands of dollars for what purports to be something akin to Aladdin's lamp. Again, the product may be very good, but such claims of instant wealth should always be met with some skepticism to protect us from becoming part of the crowd that actually bites and swallows the claim. As P.T. Barnum instructed any would be promoter nearly 150 years ago, "Every crowd has a silver lining", we need to make sure we are not just some other promoter's silver lining for a product that does not live up to its promise. We can save a substantial amount of money in the process.


            I can think of 1,498,500 reasons ; )
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            • Profile picture of the author eric w
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              After receiving my user name and password, i logged in and there was an intro video welcoming us and telling us what's to come in our training each week (nothing is mentioned about exact start date of training).

              Amish and J Styles talk about themselves and their history with IM. Both say they make or have made at some point $50,000-$100,000 per day online.

              There's also another video (a bit more than 7 minutes) showing you how to set up each project with the software

              So, i kind of played around with the software and I found the module 1 training video.

              This video shows you how to find a market and research the demographics of that market. This goes into detail including what sites to go to and much more.

              Amish and J Styles (Jose Rivera) say that the software will do all of the stuff that they're showing..they would also like us to know how to go through the process on our own..but they repeat that the software has all of the features of the websites and processes that they mention.

              I've also entered some keywords in the software and it spits out all kinds of cpa offers and how much they pay..you can also search for offers and specify payout.

              That's what i've done so far....i'll do my best to make updates on the progress.

              Just waiting on the formal training to start.

              eric
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Good points it is a cookie cutter email it is one provided for promotional purposes . I always used to get a kick out of them one after the other my friend this and my friend that.

    I mean most of the time you know right away they are full of it but some of them get creative. I just unsubscribe from them personally I have better things to do then get in on the "latest and greatest cr@p" It is humorous though:p
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    I don't know if I'm mistaken or not. But one thing that made me chuckle was that this was the guy that people were touting as making $100,000 a day in some other promotion a few months ago.

    In fact he had done it once maybe twice in the whole year and was actually averaging sales of about $14k a day and about 15% profit after expenses etc...

    No slight on the guy himself as he may not have bragged about the 100k a day, but it just goes to show how these whole launches can be exaggerated.

    Another interesting observation is how they seem to be positioning this towards the average Joe by suggesting earnings of $200 a day, which is probably more "haveable" for most people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Woody C
      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      I don't know if I'm mistaken or not. But one thing that made me chuckle was that this was the guy that people were touting as making $100,000 a day in some other promotion a few months ago.

      In fact he had done it once maybe twice in the whole year and was actually averaging sales of about $14k a day and about 15% profit after expenses etc...

      No slight on the guy himself as he may not have bragged about the 100k a day, but it just goes to show how these whole launches can be exaggerated.
      I feel the same way about most of the WSOs, as well. It seems that all you need is one good day or one good week, then you can sell a product about how you made a good bit of money once.
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      • Profile picture of the author teddy67
        I got a JV invite from this guy saying all the great things about this product. I could see red flags all over this product. First of all he claims that he wants to help people yet he will charge nearly $3,000 for his product and have a high monthly membership price.

        Then he also claims that he giving away a piece of software that does everything for you and can get you six figure paydays? This is another red flag. Also no where does he say how much he spends on advertising to get these big paydays.

        I think this is going to be a big waste of money and a system that just sets people up for failure.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dexx
          Originally Posted by teddy67 View Post

          Then he also claims that he giving away a piece of software that does everything for you and can get you six figure paydays? This is another red flag. Also no where does he say how much he spends on advertising to get these big paydays.
          That's my biggest issue with most the Guru claims.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by teddy67 View Post

          Also no where does he say how much he spends on advertising to get these big paydays.
          Do you need someone to tell you the sky is blue too? I think it's safe to say he spends a lot. On his pre-launch blog, he says his margins are about 50%. But does he really have to tell you he spends a lot to make $14,000 a day? Isn't that a given? Common sense should tell you he's not making it by spending $100.00 a day.

          The reality is he spends a lot of money to make a lot of money, but no one says you have to play at that level. Spend $10 a day to make $10 a day if that's what you're comfortable with, and grow as you can. However, if you want to make big bucks like he claims he is making, it's gonna take money. Welcome to the real world.

          I won't be buying his course, but I have to give him credit. He revealed 3-4 live campaigns in his video that are still running right now. Talk about a refreshing change from the typical super guru claptrap of "I can't show you one of my sites because my business will be ruined if somebody copies the site" nonsense.
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        • Profile picture of the author michaelr7
          Originally Posted by teddy67 View Post

          I got a JV invite from this guy saying all the great things about this product. I could see red flags all over this product. First of all he claims that he wants to help people yet he will charge nearly $3,000 for his product and have a high monthly membership price.

          Then he also claims that he giving away a piece of software that does everything for you and can get you six figure paydays? This is another red flag. Also no where does he say how much he spends on advertising to get these big paydays.

          I think this is going to be a big waste of money and a system that just sets people up for failure.
          When it comes to making money with CPA, Amish Shah is the real deal.

          Over 90% of all PPC to CPA courses - even the high priced ones - are either flawed or are outright scams.

          This fellow is a class act. If this course is half as good as the live seminar he held, this course would be a steal.

          Michael
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          • Profile picture of the author Gotembakan
            The question I always have with programs that promise you the riches of Solomon is, if true, why is the creator of such a "secret" so desperate to put it in the hands of as many people as he can. If he is, in fact, making that much money himself with this "Magic Bullet" then why would he need to sell it and allow others to saturate the market with it? Perhaps he is one of those rare souls who cares for the welfare of his fellow human beings, well, human beings that are involved in IM. I suppose he could be the Mother Theresa of Internet Marketing, but I have my doubts. I think for a price tag close to $3,000 it's quite healthy to have some degree of skepticism. And at that price tag he only needs to grab a few of us to buy his next house.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Originally Posted by teddy67 View Post

          Then he also claims that he giving away a piece of software that does everything for you and can get you six figure paydays? This is another red flag. Also no where does he say how much he spends on advertising to get these big paydays.
          It's apparent that you have not watched the video's in their entirety especially the last one that was released because Amish CLEARLY shows what he is spending on Advertising. AND BTW....the software ROCKS!

          As I mentioned in a previous thread about this subject...if you don't have all the info then don't make wild false claims.

          The problem is not the "scripted' emails.....there is an easy solution for that......UNSUBSCRIBE ...... The real problem is people making up stuff and twisting information that stirs controversy and opens a soup kitchen for other un-informed folks to chime in with complete inaccuracies and non-sense.

          I have no issue when someone is trying to gain solid information on a product and educate themselves for a purchasing decision....but to spew negativity as a result of not knowing what you are talking about is just ignorant.

          The FTC needs to come out with guidelines preventing this type of Mis information by people.


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  • Profile picture of the author Gladiator
    I have a suggesting, why don't all this so called "Gurus" just use the WSO section and forget about all this emailing and then getting you to opt in again! :-)

    Andre
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post

      I have a suggesting, why don't all this so called "Gurus" just use the WSO section and forget about all this emailing and then getting you to opt in again! :-)

      Andre
      And that friends is why we have so much crap in the wso section as of late

      that mentality is just evident all over.

      thanks for the reminder of how sick this business can be
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Hmmm yeah great point Sam they do seem to be targeting more "believable amounts" at the average person humouros but sad
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    OOOOOOOOO MMYYYYY!! iam sooo happpy that i sawwww this wall!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    guys who cares how much he spends? i figure 50% goes to ads.... but 2.5 mill is A LOT of cash.... especially for an affiliate who just sends traffic and gets paid.

    thats a LOT less work than being the merchant.

    and who cares if he made 100k just 5 times. thats a huge feat, have you done it even 1 time?

    you guys are focusing on the wrong things.

    if i'm looking at a course/program, the only thing that matters is can these ppl teach YOU what they do and can you apply it.

    thats it.

    everything else you guys are rattling off is nonsense guys.... who cares about all that other stuff... and guys you're bitching about being marketed to but you're supposed to be marketers.... thats pretty lame.

    if you dont like it unsubscribe and stop whining.

    personally i see this and try to learn from it and see what i can take into my marketing.

    i was at the live event and i have a 3 ring binder thats probably 3 times as big as ANY other marketing event i've been to in the last 6 years...

    lots of the stuff was new to me.... i took a TON of notes... the biggest takeaway i got, aside from specific strategies/tactics was THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

    hard to explain unless you were there...

    it was one of the BEST marketing events I've been to hands down.

    Amish and Jay are the real deal and if the course is half as good as the event was, i'm sure everyone will be very pleased (and make some money).
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    • Profile picture of the author mjbacch
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      guys who cares how much he spends? i figure 50% goes to ads.... but 2.5 mill is A LOT of cash.... especially for an affiliate who just sends traffic and gets paid.

      thats a LOT less work than being the merchant.

      and who cares if he made 100k just 5 times. thats a huge feat, have you done it even 1 time?

      you guys are focusing on the wrong things.

      if i'm looking at a course/program, the only thing that matters is can these ppl teach YOU what they do and can you apply it.

      thats it.

      everything else you guys are rattling off is nonsense guys.... who cares about all that other stuff... and guys you're bitching about being marketed to but you're supposed to be marketers.... thats pretty lame.

      if you dont like it unsubscribe and stop whining.

      personally i see this and try to learn from it and see what i can take into my marketing.

      i was at the live event and i have a 3 ring binder thats probably 3 times as big as ANY other marketing event i've been to in the last 6 years...

      lots of the stuff was new to me.... i took a TON of notes... the biggest takeaway i got, aside from specific strategies/tactics was THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

      hard to explain unless you were there...

      it was one of the BEST marketing events I've been to hands down.

      Amish and Jay are the real deal and if the course is half as good as the event was, i'm sure everyone will be very pleased (and make some money).
      Wow, you are so right. Here we are on a “marketing” forum and no one wants to be marketed to. I guess the shoes on the other foot now.

      If you guys hate marketing so much you are probably in the wrong business. You should learn from their efforts and not be so jealous or their success. You cannot succeed at what you hate and you can not attract what you distain. If you hate the thought of others being successful you yourself will never succeed.

      Embrace success!

      I applaud their efforts and I hope that just one single person runs with this system and shows all of you neigh Sayers that it is possible to have massive amounts of success online.

      And as far as price is concerned, those who say it is too much need it the most.
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      • Profile picture of the author veotis
        Originally Posted by mjbacch View Post

        Wow, you are so right. Here we are on a "marketing" forum and no one wants to be marketed to. I guess the shoes on the other foot now.

        If you guys hate marketing so much you are probably in the wrong business. You should learn from their efforts and not be so jealous or their success. You cannot succeed at what you hate and you can not attract what you distain. If you hate the thought of others being successful you yourself will never succeed.

        Embrace success!

        I applaud their efforts and I hope that just one single person runs with this system and shows all of you neigh Sayers that it is possible to have massive amounts of success online.

        And as far as price is concerned, those who say it is too much need it the most.
        That's the way it has ALWAYS been here, so called "internet marketers" complaining about being marketed to. To be really truthful, the majority of members here actually fall into the "herd" category. They'll never make it because of one important factor, their MINDSET!
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            • Profile picture of the author tpsolutions1
              Originally Posted by beantownmarketing View Post

              This is so true...I struggled for years because I didn't think I was deserving of success. Someone held my hand and proved that success wasn't that hard and today I expect this success!
              Beantown are you in MA? Also did you get the Bullet System? I did and live in MA too. The Bullet System should produce results over the next 3 weeks so until then there is not going to be a lot to report. However I must say I watched a video from Amish today as a part of the system and it was absolutely jammed packed with information. I am no newbie and I am going to have to listen to that video at least another 2 times to get every bit of info out of that video. Great stuff.
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              • Profile picture of the author beantownmarketing
                Yes, just South of Boston.

                I did pick up Magic Bullet and I was initially disappointed with videos in module #1 but after watching today's webinar I'm pretty excited. Based on what I heard today I can tell that I'll be keeping this golden nugget. I'll also be watching that video SEVERAL times

                Where are you in Ma?

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  • Profile picture of the author silverbax
    These guys are the real deal. You can't spend even $100 a day at a loss forever...the idea that someone is spending 1K or 10K a day and can't make a profit is only for big companies going out of business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Hey,

    Anyone saying that he doesn't discuss the ad spend is crazy ... in his example videos, he clearly spells out the ad spent, to the penny. All the videos about the smiley campaign talk about the numbers and are, as I said, down to the penny on profit, ad spend, clicks, keywords, landing pages, you name it.

    It's be damn near impossible for him to release any more information on the campaigns without you being there in person, and asking him for some odd stat ...

    But, who cares what he's spending? Does it even matter?

    If he spent $50,000,000 to make $5,000,000 ... he still made $5,000,000. Or, 10% ...

    There's a secret perk of having a high ad-spend though, and that's the fact that you split the spend between as many credit cards as you can get that have rewards and incentive programs. Most of the guys I know with Amex Black cards have them because of their ad spend ... and, they get crazy perks just for using the card. They're also flying everywhere first-class, getting free hotel rooms, show tickets, concierge service, etc, etc, etc ...

    And finally, Amish has stated that he started out with a $10.00 ad spend himself ...

    Honestly, anyone worrying about the ad-spend can't afford the cost of the program anyway. I'd guess it's going to be at least two grand ... so you should figure on having at least that available on an ad-spend on top of the course.

    This is a business people ...

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    • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
      I got the same email about 4 or 5 times in the past couple of weeks.

      I have done some research on Amish Shaw, (funny I have a friend by the same name) and he seems to offer a good product.

      But here is my take all these Guru's. If they have developed such a stellar system that they are making a killing everyday, why are they so eager to sell it to everyone else?

      I can tell you that I personally have strategies that are 100% unique to me, and I would never sell to anyone, let alone try to sell it to everyone!

      Amish Shaw does have a very good rep in the internet Guru world. And maybe his course would help someone make some money. But for me, I have spent enough money on "Guru's" and software to make me beleive that its not for me. Especially when I am spammed with these offers. It really puts any chance of me doing it right out the window.
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  • Profile picture of the author topskyca
    Now its time to think twice what the gurus taught you: list segmentation, relationship nurturing - probably they themselves don't care enough to do that .

    and they don't even can't come out a different "whoring" strategy - they just take the straight line for quick bucks.

    but wait... the other side of the coin is - you are probably NOT going to purchase through their links anyways, you are not the target buyer, so, it became a number game for them. they won't care if you unsubscribe.

    anyways, by being on these lists you can put your pulse on whats happening on the internet - the whoring noise is a small price you have to pay.

    as for Amish, a brilliant guy, with creative thinking - being creative is the BEST way to make big bucks in CPA. I personally believe he has something to offer. but the price tag maybe to high for beginners - eventually, no training can get you there except your own actions.
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    • Profile picture of the author miami
      This is a great topic!

      I AGREE that you can unsubscribe easily as I have from (most) all the lists..

      I AGREE that Amish has what looks to be a killer product. (You have to watch the videos!)

      I LOVE watching Frank Kern teach me how to launch a product. (For free BTW)

      And I am an affiliate but I don't email. And I don't give products, lessons, DVDs or anything else for bonuses. But I do make it well worth the 'business'. (PM me if you are thinking of buying it.)

      All I want to do is pay for the product! (Well - I would take more if given!) hehe

      Did I learn from Mass Control? Yes. Product Launch Formula?Yes Stompernet? Yes.

      I think of it like paying for Internet marketing college...
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  • Profile picture of the author bminor
    As to the often stated question in connection with big product launches (not only in this thread): "If it is so good, why does he sell it and create competition for himself?":

    I don't know Amish, so can't say what his motive is, but I would know one other than fraud (actually nothing else is inferred by these questions).

    I had a very successful "system" in a completely different area of life (you could classify it as marketing but not for money) and I could achieve what many wanted but couldn't achieve. I did keep it secret as I didn't want "competition" but on the other hand I had a very hard time to withhold it. I knew telling it would have earned me a lot of recognition if not admiration.

    Getting recognition or admiration is a very strong motive and can be stronger than earning more by keeping off potential competition.

    If Amish does earn up to a hundredthousand a day, why should he care about competition? One guy in this thread describes him as very creative. Creative people tend to not whine about the scarcity of things so much ("Oh my god! There are only so many potential customers in this niche. If there will be one more competitor I won't make enough money anymore!"). They rather have the confidence that they can always find other ways to make money or other niches.

    Per the video Amish developped this system and software already quite some time ago. After having made a lot of money with it, maybe he now is at the point where he doesn't care about even more money so much but rather would like many people rave what a great product he created and how much he helped them with it.

    And as an additional answer for these suspicious "if it's so good, why does he sell it"-guys, another question: If Amish became a (multi-)millionaire by honest CPA-marketing (at least it was not yet disputed that he is a honest marketer) why should he go through all this work and fuzz of a big product launch when he doesn't have a honest product to offer?

    PS: I guess the inevitable next question by some will be "If he does it for admiration why doesn't he give it away for free?". I suggest you answer this for yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Iser
    A cpl months ago Amish & I talked about some scripts we use in our biz. I told him about this idea I had that I was developing for myself - to which he replies "We already do it".

    That thing was Magic Bullet.

    In other wards, GET IT.
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    • Profile picture of the author ComradeChen
      Originally Posted by Steve Iser View Post

      A cpl months ago Amish & I talked about some scripts we use in our biz. I told him about this idea I had that I was developing for myself - to which he replies "We already do it".

      That thing was Magic Bullet.

      In other wards, GET IT.
      So you would recommend getting the Magic Bullet System?

      I'm pretty new to the internet marketing scene, been around a month, and have been looking for something that will work.
      To me, it seems like the most profit potential is in CPA/PPC/paid advertising so that's what I'm focusing on now.

      lol Steve, I tried to pm you but apparently I need 50 posts before being able to do that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gotembakan
        There is no doubt that those who know Amish personally or have worked with him in the past have the advantage when it comes to deciding whether or not to spend the $3,000 on this product.

        For those of us who don't know him, however, a great deal of faith is necessary to spend this kind of money up front. What I would like to see is a real, objective review of the product, not commentary from someone promoting it or a nasty rebuttal to what someone has written here from a fan of Amish, but a real concrete review, something on the level of a Consumer Reports piece on, say, a household appliance or a car. This thread shouldn't be a tit for tat exchange between those who have no idea who Amish is and those who think he is some kind of Wunderkind. I think I am like most here who are just looking for an honest, non-promotional review of this very expensive product.

        Wouldn't we do at least that basic level of research before buying a new television or any other expensive gadget? Who among us would go out and buy a 42-inch plasma TV, or any other product, for a few thousand dollars without at least consulting some objective review of the product? In the absence of such an objective review, does anyone know if there will be a trial offer or money-back guarantee on the course?
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        • Profile picture of the author emathieu
          Originally Posted by Gotembakan View Post

          In the absence of such an objective review, does anyone know if there will be a trial offer or money-back guarantee on the course?
          While I can't provide a review, as I don't have access to the software (I wish I did), Amish has stated that he will refund 100% of the money to anyone who asks even after they have taken the full 6 week course, no questions asked. No "Well, you didn't actually try to implement the system so you can't have your money back" like some people have had to deal with. Of course, I'm sure the person asking for the refund also loses all access to the software system, which for me would be the real value in purchasing. There's some decent CPA lessons out there for free, the software is the real driver here IMO.
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          • Profile picture of the author profitgenerator
            I've been bombarded with these emails too. I'm not purchasing it, as I'm committed to another project for awhile.

            I'm under the impression that the $3,000 for this 6-week course "with the software", does not include any ongoing use of the software after the course is over. At that time, there is probably an upsell involving a monthly fee to continue using the software. That might also have something to do with the full refund guarantee that is extended untill the end of the 6 weeks.

            For those that are interested, do you know if there will be an ongoing monthly fee for the software?
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        • Originally Posted by Gotembakan View Post

          There is no doubt that those who know Amish personally or have worked with him in the past have the advantage when it comes to deciding whether or not to spend the $3,000 on this product.

          For those of us who don't know him, however, a great deal of faith is necessary to spend this kind of money up front. What I would like to see is a real, objective review of the product, not commentary from someone promoting it or a nasty rebuttal to what someone has written here from a fan of Amish, but a real concrete review, something on the level of a Consumer Reports piece on, say, a household appliance or a car. This thread shouldn't be a tit for tat exchange between those who have no idea who Amish is and those who think he is some kind of Wunderkind. I think I am like most here who are just looking for an honest, non-promotional review of this very expensive product.

          Wouldn't we do at least that basic level of research before buying a new television or any other expensive gadget? Who among us would go out and buy a 42-inch plasma TV, or any other product, for a few thousand dollars without at least consulting some objective review of the product? In the absence of such an objective review, does anyone know if there will be a trial offer or money-back guarantee on the course?

          As I have stated in the piece on my blog, you will not only need to factor in the $2997 price tag but also the cost of doing PPC marketing ... the system (from the outside) to me looks to be a comprehensive one for PPC marketing ... but to realize the income numbers these guys are talking about you need a fair sized working capital.

          Furthermore, its not just about having the system and the working capital to participate in the PPC game ... it also calls for a risk neutral mindset as well as well as a fair amount of market intuitiveness which only come with experience gained over time. This is a caveat for those who just jump in and expect to be earning six/seven figure incomes after the 8 weeks of training.

          Hope this helps.

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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            Is it true that the tracking will be stored on Amishs' server?

            I'm not sure how comfortable I am with having all of my data reported to someone elses server and being accessible by someone else in the same markets?
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            • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

              Is it true that the tracking will be stored on Amishs' server?

              I'm not sure how comfortable I am with having all of my data reported to someone elses server and being accessible by someone else in the same markets?
              As I understand it that's correct Jeremy yes, the application itself and all your data is stored on Amish's servers, it was my primary concern when I considered buying it.

              John Reese wanged out an email or two about it and he's not one typically to risk his rep on crap so I gave it the time of day, the hosted application put me off.

              Shah's a bright cookie, had a friend go to a big seminar of his last year , he's experienced and he came back saying Shah knew his stuff and even gave away some solid information so I buy into him being viable and quite probably accurate with his earnings.

              Just can't say I'm struck on all my data being on somebody elses server, aside from anything else what the heck happens if Amish goes awol, packs it all in and decides to reside in Cloud Kuckoo land with a big bag of money, where does that leave you?

              I'm not 100% on this , somebody may know better but as far as I know, you don't get access to the entirity of the software either, it's being opened up in piece meal format.

              I was pretty tempted by this, I'm big on software that makes life easy and $3k didn't seem to bad, even if I did see some holes in the promo videos, but all in all, it looked tempting until I realised he retains control of everything on his own server, just put me off a bit.

              That said, it may well be excellent software, so I'm interested to see the reviews from people when it's been unlocked enough to test it's potential, something tells me the "max 500 people limit" will, as usual, turn into "we had a crazy idea and are going to open it up to another 500 lucky people" fairly soon.
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              • Profile picture of the author jjjt
                I signed up for the Magic Bullet product a couple of days ago, but as yet have not received ANY emails from them (no user name/password, in fact not even a receipt).

                I created a support ticket 14 hours ago, and have yet to receive a response.

                Is anybody getting a similar lack of response??
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  • Profile picture of the author emathieu
    The main reason why Amish would be willing to share this system is because the vast majority of people who are going to purchase this can NOT get accepted into most CPA networks. The people purchasing it are just getting started, and are not ready to get in there with the big dogs yet. And guess what? Amish just so happens to run a CPA network, and he WILL accept anyone who purchases into it.

    This way, Amish will make money on the back end, and the students will begin to learn CPA marketing with a real CPA network that they can also make actual money in. Once they can get enough experience under their belts, then they can take it to the next level.

    It seems that a lot of "internet marketers" have gotten to be very negative in recent years.

    I'm always perplexed when I see people who claim to want to be online business people complain about someone's pricing, or immediately think that everyone is a scam artist.

    Would you feel the same if you were the one able to command $3,000 for your information? I doubt it. Stay positive and focus on what you CAN do and not what you can't. I realize that $3K is a lot of money for most people. I'm actually not in a position right now to purchase Amish's system right now either. But I'm certainly not going to slam him for being able to command what he's charging for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author PMB
      $2997 is some serious coin for a 6 week course! I assume the software is the real reason why the course is almost 3k? I have seen the videos and these guys do seem to be the real deal. The core influence video in itself to me was enough to see that these guys know there stuff. Just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author ComradeChen
    Is the 100% refund guarantee legit?
    There are a lot of companies that say they have a no hassle refund policy and then give you a load of crap when you actually ask for the refund.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicholas William
    well for the amount of buzz going around the web for Amish's magic bullet system I thought there would be alot more discussion happening here.

    I wanted to contribute with 1 pro and 1 con for the magic bullet system.

    The first pro I wish to mention, and believe me there are MANY different benefits for this program, but the first one is the covert recon section of the software. Everyone here will be familiar with niche research and competitive analysis, so we're not learning anything new there... but Amish's software has this amazing 'magic' tab that shows demographic information. DUDE, that is gold!!!

    So not only can you view if the target audience in that niche is able to spend money on your CPA deal, but it gives you guidance for compiling a customer profile. Once you know your customer, it is MUCH easier to sell to them and offer what they want.

    I wish I knew how they get this data, coz I'd love to integrate that into my process for doing research & analysis!

    Okay now for the con: this magic bullet software is designed to identify then setup campaigns... campaigns that purchase traffic... which requires a marketing budget. I dont think that critical part is emphasized in the sales video, so although it's not exactly a downside to the software, it definitely is something that people need to consider if they are thinking of buying the magic bullet system. It saves you time on campaigns, if you're already doing large amounts of campaigns... if you setup like one CPA deal per week then you might be better spending your money on traffic, as it wont really save you much time. This is best suited to the big guys with teams of people and large budgets, then they can really leverage the software.

    I've written about this on my blog with a post on what everyone needs to know about the magic bullet system. Stop by to read more or leave your comments if you wish

    So to conclude... I love what Amish has developed, the offering is great and there is an amazing amount of value in it for just $2997 but think about how it will help you and if you have the dollars to spend on traffic once you buy the software
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    • Profile picture of the author profitgenerator
      Nicholas,

      Why don't you go to offervault.com and look at the cpa offers. Each one has a button next to it that shows you the demographics for the offer. Cool stuff! Or, just go directly to quantcast.com and check it out anytime.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aj Wilson
        Hey guys...

        I just purchased "TheMagicBullet" from the "Suprise Early Testing Email" and waiting login details...
        (apparently it takes about 4 hours).

        The cost is One Time Payment $2997
        Or 4 payments of $797

        There's a (Totally Optional) Upsell for a Mastermind Club for $297 per month. First Month Free.

        I'll post an honest review once I crank out a campain...

        Hopefully before the full launch tomorrow so you guys might be able to make
        a more informed decision.

        The main feature(s) that hooked me is the ultra fast keyword/competition research ability and
        the landing page/blog creation in ONE simple step by step place.


        and also the ability to TEST paid campaigns to focus quickly, efficiently
        then automatically weeding out the losers...

        to focus on the winners (where you would then concentrate your efforts on FREE Traffic, instead of paid).

        Overall sounds like great software to have.

        Looking foward to sharing the results with you guys.

        Talk soon!

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  • Profile picture of the author Rupps
    Actually it looks like a piece of software I would really like to have. But it's only worth about $100 to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
    No need to wait for the "launch". A quick search on Google shows the order link:

    https://www.themagicbulletsystem.com/order.php
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  • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
    It is very interesting to see "behind the curtain" of the launch and see the marketing, how the JV partners are doing, what they are saying, etc.

    themagicbulletsystem.com - JV Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author maxitman
    See guys, here's the problem. Now, think just a moment. Really stop and think. If the guy is offering you a program that'll only cost you 3000 but will, and I say, will bring you hundreds of thousands, where's the problem? Should you not grab it in an instant? Of course you should. But most of us know that it isn't that easy. Now, if I could have his undivided attention until I am fluent with his stuff, to make sure all areas are covered, then I would say I'd buy it. But he won't do that. You will be left on your own. And even though he says its all there-it is not. See he built it for himself first, custom made, so he went through trials and tribulations that are only known to him, you know, those unexpected details that can sometimes take weeks, but days for sure, to clear.

    Yes, undoubtedly there are some goodies in his program that I would love to have, but not for that kind of money. If I was to buy it, HIS program would tear me apart from MY program(however newbie it may be) and I would have to start all over again. Yes, it is better to spend the 3k on advertising, securing products,(your own and affiliate) content, and learn what is really going on. I am thinking, none of the guys or gals that have been in the business, say more than 5 years will not buy his stuff. Or if they do, not for 3 grand.

    Yes, I too, am getting little tired of these gurus, they can talk the talk, but obviously they do not walk the walk. The only place it seems, where they really make money is; form other IM folks like you and me. Ok, this is not entirely true, I know, but consider this, if you actually had that proverbial golden goose, laying eggs day after day, would you really give it to somebody else? No you would not. And don't you guys even start on this, you would not. Not until you start seeing some indication of market place saturation or that other IM folks are catching up with you, and you better off load it while it still brings you money.

    And that is the way it is. Otherwise, as business propositions goes, his deal is not bad. If I was in his shoes, I'd probably be doing the same thing. I wish him well on his deal, but I am not buying one.
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  • Profile picture of the author TommyBoy
    Does anyone know what exactly this secret software does? For traffic and demographics there are free services like quantcast and alexa.
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  • Profile picture of the author daria19
    Personally, I don't think Amish is trying to "off load" this product at all.

    I think his primary driver is to build a strong team of affiliates for yMultimedia...so it's in his best interest to train everybody well and provide them with this great software, because he's going to make a lot more money through yMultimedia than he'll ever make by "selling" this product on the front-end.

    This launch will also hopefully get a few super-affiliates joining his network. This is where his REAL money will be made.

    It's all about long term strategy rather than short term monetary gains.
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    • Profile picture of the author miami
      We signed up.

      I can use it for 6 weeks - take all the training.

      And give it back if I don't like it?

      Why not?

      There are three of us in our company. We try to be logical about it.

      Is it hype? Sure it is called a SALES letter.

      You mean you don't use such a thing? And you are an Internet marketer?

      Do we see inconsistencies in the videos? Sure do.

      This is what we see. They have created a new CPA company and need marketers
      to make money for them.

      So they are incentivized to create great CPA marketers for them.

      People are earning incomes with CPA - so we are going to look...

      Of course since we are affiliates we OUGHT to buy the product!

      Just my two cents.

      How about I let you know how it turns out? I'll do a WSO on it! hehe

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      • Profile picture of the author Marketstriker
        As for me I don't believe I can earn more money as affiliate, than business owner. Isn't it better to start your own online business, is it? Of cause you must invest some money. But anyway you invest it buying a product as affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    I've bought it for $3,000.

    I'll give an honest review on the Magic Bullet System as soon as I can.
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    • Profile picture of the author ohisee
      To anyone that has purchased the Magic Bullet System: I was going to purchase the Magic Bullet System today, but I just discovered they closed down last night. I'd like to partner up with someone that purchased it yesterday and split the cost. Please contact me at rickl4981 at gmail. Thanks...I look forward to hearing from you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Eljisr
    I don't understand why there is so much fuss about the price. Beside the fact that Amish is recognized as a big success story in the CPA industry, he is delivering a valuable software and six weeks content that offers a time shortcut. Time is money, really. I don't want to spend 3 years learning on my own if I can shorten the learning curve to 6 months, and I am ready to pay for this time shortcut, of course if I can afford the investment.

    I would not recommend anybody to pay $2,997 if he never created a CPA campaign or made any money with CPA.

    Also, it is about positioning. Can you sell a Ferrari at the same price as a Honda?

    Finally, as much money is Amish making through CPA, if he sells 500 copies and cash in $1,500 (the rest goes to JVs) per copy, it means that Amish has an extra $750,000 after 2 days of sales. Who does not want that kind of cashflow?

    One more thing... How much does it cost to get a McDonalds franchise?... I still believe that $2,997 is a good investment taking into account the time and the potential return on investment comparing to a McDonalds franchise...
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  • The software is just a convenience tool, but it wont turn a losing campaign into a profitable one. If you're already profitable in CPA marketing, get it. If you aren't, don't expect any "magic bullet" software to change that.
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      The software is just a convenience tool, but it wont turn a losing campaign into a profitable one. If you're already profitable in CPA marketing, get it. If you aren't, don't expect any "magic bullet" software to change that.
      You don't even own the software and yet you already seem to know so much about it, how would you know if won't turn a losing campaign into a winning won...exactly you don't know that,it is a shame when people make assumptions based of knowing nothing about it.
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  • Any purchaser can share some feedback on what did you find upon signing up?
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    • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Any purchaser can share some feedback on what did you find upon signing up?
      After clicking "order" you are offered an upsell to a $297/month mastermind (free first month).

      After yes/no, you are taken to a thank you page and emailed a copy of the receipt. The email also states you'll receive another email with your login information (4 hours max).

      I received mine after 20 hours. Upon logging in, there is a 26 min video from Amish and Jay, which explains their history/CV/experience.

      Then, next is a video explaining what you will get in 6 or 8 weeks of training.

      After that, you can watch a 7 min video showing a quick demonstration of the first module, "market research". The video quickly shows each tab, keywords, spy tool, niches, etc. It doesn't really explain how things work, more of a quick demo. Also, unlike the welcome videos, this video is quite small. When expanded to full screen, it is blurry. I hope they correct this otherwise it will be hard to follow.

      What I find lacking is specific details on what is next. What is the date/time of the training? Should we be poking around trying things out or await further communication? Lack of specific directions.

      So not much to report, positive or negative. There's some content, but nothing really to get us started on things. Guess we'll await communication with training details.
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      • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
        I don't know why it is but this seems to be the response to all big releases. Spending 3k on a product, you would think the 'detailed' reviews would be convincing to others that haven't bought.

        Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

        After clicking "order" you are offered an upsell to a $297/month mastermind (free first month).

        After yes/no, you are taken to a thank you page and emailed a copy of the receipt. The email also states you'll receive another email with your login information (4 hours max).

        I received mine after 20 hours. Upon logging in, there is a 26 min video from Amish and Jay, which explains their history/CV/experience.

        Then, next is a video explaining what you will get in 6 or 8 weeks of training.

        After that, you can watch a 7 min video showing a quick demonstration of the first module, "market research". The video quickly shows each tab, keywords, spy tool, niches, etc. It doesn't really explain how things work, more of a quick demo. Also, unlike the welcome videos, this video is quite small. When expanded to full screen, it is blurry. I hope they correct this otherwise it will be hard to follow.

        What I find lacking is specific details on what is next. What is the date/time of the training? Should we be poking around trying things out or await further communication? Lack of specific directions.

        So not much to report, positive or negative. There's some content, but nothing really to get us started on things. Guess we'll await communication with training details.
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            • Profile picture of the author eric w
              First of all, the sales video clearly stated that there's 6 weeks of training..no surprise there.

              There is no $200 charge for each section as you put it.

              Did you start the homework assignment..the tasks for this week?

              Now, i'm not a newbie when it comes to making money on the internet, but i am a newbie to ppc, cpa, ppv, etc.

              In about an 1 hour, i was able to complete 50% of the tasks for this week..i have 5 sessions in the wizard.

              How many have you done? and you mentioned no keywords..well, when you create a new session, click on the keyword tab, then enter your keyword(s), then click expand..and you'll have all of your keywords with analysis

              ..if you click one of the keywords that came up, then you'll get another list from that keyword you clicked, and you can keep digging like that

              and then, right next to the keyword tab is the demographics tab..click it and enter a url from a website in the market you chose and you'll get all of the demographic info for that market url (age, gender, income, level of schooling, etc.)

              just follow the instructions in the video for that section..very simple..especially since you said you're not a newbie

              some of the stuff you're saying just doesn't make sense...i'm not doggin' you..but i've also invested in the MB

              if you're not happy, just get a refund
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      • Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

        After clicking "order" you are offered an upsell to a $297/month mastermind (free first month).

        After yes/no, you are taken to a thank you page and emailed a copy of the receipt. The email also states you'll receive another email with your login information (4 hours max).

        I received mine after 20 hours. Upon logging in, there is a 26 min video from Amish and Jay, which explains their history/CV/experience.

        Then, next is a video explaining what you will get in 6 or 8 weeks of training.

        After that, you can watch a 7 min video showing a quick demonstration of the first module, "market research". The video quickly shows each tab, keywords, spy tool, niches, etc. It doesn't really explain how things work, more of a quick demo. Also, unlike the welcome videos, this video is quite small. When expanded to full screen, it is blurry. I hope they correct this otherwise it will be hard to follow.

        What I find lacking is specific details on what is next. What is the date/time of the training? Should we be poking around trying things out or await further communication? Lack of specific directions.

        So not much to report, positive or negative. There's some content, but nothing really to get us started on things. Guess we'll await communication with training details.
        Hmmm... that's rather lame for a $3000 product! You'd expect a massive "welcome party" after having forked out 3k!
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        • Profile picture of the author udo
          Usually you can learn much more from the way the product is marketed than from the product itself, amazing job by Frank Kern, that JV blog was very interesting, classic Mass Control.

          Hey nobodyspecial, why don't you just go ahead and roll out a campaign? Is the software not functional yet?

          From what I have seen in the launch video, it should not be that difficult to figure out, especially if you have worked with similar kinds of these tools before.

          If I was you, I would just get rolling, make some money

          Should be fun!

          I am looking forward to your reports.
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      • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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        Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

        After clicking "order" you are offered an upsell to a $297/month mastermind (free first month).

        After yes/no, you are taken to a thank you page and emailed a copy of the receipt. The email also states you'll receive another email with your login information (4 hours max).

        I received mine after 20 hours. Upon logging in, there is a 26 min video from Amish and Jay, which explains their history/CV/experience.

        Then, next is a video explaining what you will get in 6 or 8 weeks of training.

        After that, you can watch a 7 min video showing a quick demonstration of the first module, "market research". The video quickly shows each tab, keywords, spy tool, niches, etc. It doesn't really explain how things work, more of a quick demo. Also, unlike the welcome videos, this video is quite small. When expanded to full screen, it is blurry. I hope they correct this otherwise it will be hard to follow.

        What I find lacking is specific details on what is next. What is the date/time of the training? Should we be poking around trying things out or await further communication? Lack of specific directions.

        So not much to report, positive or negative. There's some content, but nothing really to get us started on things. Guess we'll await communication with training details.
        Not to be negative but that makes me ill. I know nothing about the product, but it seems every big launch is something like this - with "market research" etc.


        It just seems like same old same old. I hope I am wrong however.
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        • Profile picture of the author veotis
          Originally Posted by SandraLarkin View Post

          Not to be negative but that makes me ill. I know nothing about the product, but it seems every big launch is something like this - with "market research" etc.


          It just seems like same old same old. I hope I am wrong however.

          You are being negative, you don't need to be ill, you definitely don't know anything about the product and yes, you are wrong. What nobodyspecial failed to mention was that along with his login details there were instructions or assignments on what to do this first week. I like the week to week set up they have. I mean, it's only 6 weeks. I'm already doing some of the stuff they're showing. But to have software that will do this for me, absolutely priceless. And, what's wrong with learning "market research"? Do you just go out blindly throwing up offers without a clue? I do pretty good with running CPA offers, and I'm a fond believer in doing market research.
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          • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
            Review update ...

            Here is the email I received for week one (covert recon):

            Are you ready?

            (now yell - yes! yes! yes!)

            Week One is what we call Covert Recon. Time to get sneaky!

            This is where you'll discover how to find markets, demographics,
            offers, keywords, and get some hardcore training. This is all based
            off data we have in our system that we've been quietly collecting
            over the last 3 years. (did I mention we were going to get sneaky?)

            Okay, so let's get started -

            We've been hard at work making sure everything is PERFECT for
            you when you login.

            The login URL is:
            MB-X: Login

            Your username is:
            ###########

            Your password is:
            ########

            We'll be adding content DAILY to the system so be sure to login
            frequently.

            This week's tasks:
            1) Watch our training videos for Module 1
            2) Go through our process map for Module 1
            3) Soak it all up
            4) Create at least 10 wizard sessions

            This week you'll learn:
            1) Keyword & Competition Research
            2) Demographics
            3) Geotargeting
            4) Finding your Audience
            5) Google Ad Planner
            6) How to create your market research
            campaigns

            and more...

            Later this week:
            1) How to get accepted into CPA networks - This video is by far the
            most comprehensive video out there about the ins an outs of CPA
            Networks. It's from our sold out $4k seminar that we did in August ...
            and it was presented by an actual affiliate manager
            2) We'll be creating your yMultimedia account so watch for the welcome
            email!
            3) More CPA networks added to our system.
            4) Our Q&A call session.
            5) More training material!

            REMEMBER : If you have ANY questions at all please do not hesitate to
            email our support desk at magicbulletsupport@gmail.com.

            Talk soon,
            Amish

            P.S. - Get started NOW! This is going to be an incredible journey.

            P.P.S. -If you made the fast buyers bonus, you'll be getting an email soon.
            I went through the video (it was pretty clear at full screen) and the basics of market research were covered (quantcast, google keyword tool, alexa, etc.). Nothing really new for anybody who has done PPC before.

            A & J did show the manual way to do it, not using MB. This was to show what was being done, then how MB speeds this up (their words) dramatically.

            Again, they covered the basics (fairly quickly) and was more of a review than baseline training.

            Awaiting more.
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    • Profile picture of the author beksworld
      Get a hold of yourself....to say people are not honest because they havent given you a manual to their space ship is a bit far fetched. Get on the software and figure it out if you have expereince....
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    • Profile picture of the author beksworld
      After submitting a support ticket asking for specific detailed training and why its not available, heres the email I recieved.........and in LIGHTNING SPEED too, they answered my email like at 10pm CST ........by the way, I AM A NEWBIE, wet behind the ears.....so lets hope I can prove some folks wrong....

      lets hope..

      here's the reply///

      Hello there,

      Don't worry. We are specifically designing our training to help people at all levels. Soon you will receive email updates advising you when the first training will be. If you are unable to attend for any reason, the webinars will be recorded and posted to a password protected area.

      Please do not hesitate to call us with any questions throughout the process.

      Stay tuned...the first course will be announced soo
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      Originally Posted by davemkorpi View Post

      I got it and do not like it because you have to wait. I think it is crooked that they force you to wait for 6 weeks to do what was shown in the sales video. Simply bad bad bad beyond belief. Feels like the Mack Michaels CellPhone cash funkey thing. They showed you all you needed in week 1 then gave dismal stuff the remaining 7 weeks.

      Please folks.. Write to them. Have them open it up FULLY right now for those skilled and let those newbies follow the 6 week course.

      Feels like they gradually release it so they get the $200 or so every month till we can find out it stinks like Cell Phone Cash?? Or is it really awesome?

      How can we tell?

      I am VERY VERY VERY dissapointed and this "forced Continuity" looks like things the FTC will not like. If enough of us piss and moan perhaps they will make it right.
      wtf are you talking about there is now forced continuity or monthy fee,if you do not like the course then get a refund
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  • Profile picture of the author sandra.IMqueen
    As with all sales " buyer beware" It's up to us to do our research.

    Great info from a lot of different perspectives, in the end each of us has to make up our own mind and go with what we believe is right for us.

    Keep sharing your experiences and wisdom.
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  • Profile picture of the author claytons
    @jjjt I can't tell you how frustrating we find relying on email delivery with autoresponders for product registration and ongoing communication. It's hit and miss at best and annoying to all.

    One thing you can certainly count on is that Frank isn't running some shady operation...you'll get an answer soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author jjjt
      Originally Posted by claytons View Post

      @jjjt I can't tell you how frustrating we find relying on email delivery with autoresponders for product registration and ongoing communication. It's hit and miss at best and annoying to all.

      One thing you can certainly count on is that Frank isn't running some shady operation...you'll get an answer soon.
      @claytons - I'm sorry but I cannot believe that an autoresponder takes more than 2 days (and counting) to deliver an email...!

      And in any case, it doesn't explain the lack of response to the support ticket.
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  • Profile picture of the author wh0kn0ws
    if i paid 3 dimes for that and did not get a reply i would not be to happy.. i sell my own stuff where people loose there minds for 39.99 imagine 3,000$ u would think they would have a proper support staff in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author claytons
    @jjjt - yeah, it's not that it takes 2 days...they just never show...happens with aweber, getresponse...seriously...it happens...too often

    As for the ticket response...can't say...I know we strive for 1 business day...but do it a LOT quicker...BUT... 1 business day is our critical metric
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    • Profile picture of the author jjjt
      Originally Posted by claytons View Post

      @jjjt - yeah, it's not that it takes 2 days...they just never show...happens with aweber, getresponse...seriously...it happens...too often

      As for the ticket response...can't say...I know we strive for 1 business day...but do it a LOT quicker...BUT... 1 business day is our critical metric
      @claytons - well, to add to my ever-increasing frustration, I have probably already lost out on a 1st-come-1st-served bonus that Gauher Chaudhry was offering, simply because I haven't yet received a receipt to be able to forward to him.

      Grrrrrrrrrr....
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      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
        Originally Posted by jjjt View Post

        @claytons - well, to add to my ever-increasing frustration, I have probably already lost out on a 1st-come-1st-served bonus that Gauher Chaudhry was offering, simply because I haven't yet received a receipt to be able to forward to him.

        Grrrrrrrrrr....
        Gauher's a good guy, explain the situation and I'm sure he will understand. Point him to this thread if need be.
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  • Profile picture of the author claytons
    @jjjt Sorry, Mate!

    hang in there...maybe you'll make a ton of cash with Frank's thing here and you'll be laughing that you were ever upset!! :-)

    CPA's not my thing, in general ...but people do make a nice buck from it for sure
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  • Profile picture of the author ProsperousMan
    How long is the guarantee period? This doesn't seem to be stated anywhere.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjjt
    STILL no emails with user name/password/receipt.
    STILL no response to Support Ticket (follow-up message sent)

    AND

    "Office" telephone number goes straight through to voicemail.

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......... .........
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    • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
      The lack of good support in these kinds of launches doesn't surprise me anymore. Sadly...
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    • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
      At risk of stating the obvious (the obvious is often overlooked), did you check your spam folder?

      My username/password were in my spam folder in my Yahoo mail account.

      Hope you find it there too!

      Pete

      Originally Posted by jjjt View Post

      STILL no emails with user name/password/receipt.
      STILL no response to Support Ticket (follow-up message sent)

      AND

      "Office" telephone number goes straight through to voicemail.

      Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......... .........
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      • Profile picture of the author jjjt
        @PeteNY - Yes, thanks Pete! It was the first place I checked! (and keep checking, btw!)


        Maybe I'm just getting old, but I am getting SO SO WEARY of disappointing/non-existent Customer Support with these big IM products...

        Handing over $3000 of my hard-earned, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for LOGIN DETAILS!!

        GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
      Originally Posted by jjjt View Post

      STILL no emails with user name/password/receipt.
      STILL no response to Support Ticket (follow-up message sent)

      AND

      "Office" telephone number goes straight through to voicemail.

      Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......... .........
      Here is there support desk link.

      The Magic Bullet System - Kayako SupportSuite Help Desk Software

      Hope this helps

      Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author beantownmarketing
    Frank Kern posted this Will Smith video a few days ago and I think this should be required viewing for every entrepreneur. I hits home on mindset...

    http://masscontrolsite.com/blog/?p=67

    (Frank's site)
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    • Profile picture of the author rspadi
      I also bought the MBS and I have to say, I was very disappointed at the beginning:

      Module 1 videas were a bit "empty"
      No downloadable pdf's - I just like to print out stuff, make notes, work with a lightpen...
      Step 1 of the software didn't really work as well as I thought
      Also, I thought I didn't really learn anything new...


      BUT, yesterday I watched the videos in the affiliate network section (which contained also a very interesting part on the Google content network) and I have to say, I was really impressed to say the least!

      These guys are geniuses and I guess I can learn a hell of a lot of amazing stuff from them.

      Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author searchenginepro
    Read my article here: http://www.searchenginepro.net/avoid...shah-products/

    I was a customer for both Hexatrack and Google Goggles. Both great tools, but neither work right now.

    I'm guessing all energy is going into The Magic Bullet System and his upcoming summit.

    My last trouble ticket for Google Goggles was closed twice with no reply to my support request.

    For anyone salivating over Amish's products good luck with customer support if you run into any issues.
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  • Profile picture of the author wh0kn0ws
    If you have purchased magic bullet and need to recoup some cash i'm willing to give you 500$ to share access with me. PM me if you are interested.
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    • Profile picture of the author beantownmarketing
      Originally Posted by wh0kn0ws View Post

      If you have purchased magic bullet and need to recoup some cash i'm willing to give you 500$ to share access with me. PM me if you are interested.
      Nobody in their right mind would take you up on your offer...

      For starters, why would some allow access and risk getting booted, regardless of price?

      Secondly, a 50/50 split on the cost with a legitimate "Business partner" would only be the fair way to structure a deal and therefore $500 wouldn't cut it.

      And finally, all the projects are exposed so everything you do is exposed and unless you're in a 50/50 partnership you'd be foolish to expose your gold.
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  • Profile picture of the author maksym
    Hi to all....
    I am wondering - does anybody have a copy of squeeze page from magic bullet system?
    Really need one, cause lost it on my comp. :-)
    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by beantownmarketing View Post

      The page will show "Sold out" but opt-in and I'll know when it if it opens again: AFFILIATE LINK REMOVED

      Hey Man.....you can;t post affiliate links. I suggest you remove your Aff ID before your response gets canned...

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      • Profile picture of the author wh0kn0ws
        I remember ordering CPA Ninja back in the summer. The course was very basic , although wordpress direct is a great software and that I would recommend to anybody out there, although now I've seen different spin offs from WPD. I personally feel Marty is a more of a reputable guy than Amish. I orderd hexatrack which just stopped working for no reason.. then i ordered Google goggles which was useless and i did not bite on the magic bullet software due to the fact that they wanted to drag it out for 4-5 weeks . For a newbie it might be worth it but for someone that has an pretty good idea of what is going on.. maybe not.. Then again as per there money back guarantee maybe some of the new stuff they will release will in fact blow you away.... but even it dose.. why would u not still ask for a refund.. something about that money back guarantee makes no sense to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpsolutions1
          My opinion is that if you feel the information and training that you received meets your expectation, you would not take advantage of a unconditional refund policy. I am in the Magic Bullet System and though I can not speak for your previous experiences I feel Amish will deliver. I do agree with your feelings of the weekly roll out, however can wait with huge anticipation of what I know Amish is capable of showing me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
            So anybody have anything seriously positive to say about it yet?

            Is the software delivered bit by bit as well or just the info modules?
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  • Profile picture of the author gmann46
    What is his CPA network called?
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    My quit smoking date is 12/30/08.......
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    Course is pretty decent so far IMO.

    Still early days though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacksonlin
    I'm going through this at the moment and I'm not seeing anything mind blowing.

    It's pretty standard CPA stuff, except they have blogs linked up with UAW or AMA style drip feed systems where you don't have to create content.

    I'm still waiting for more access to their modules, but so far it's not that impressive for anyone who has been doing IM for 6 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpsolutions1
      I agree with your observation too. However, with the way they are releasing this program, this allows everyone to get the basics set up first. My expectation though are that after this week, we will be able to be shown and implement specific strategies and techniques to start to produce the Amish style of results. It is killing me too with this slow release, but I feel this will be only for another week at the most.

      In the mean time I have been researching offers, niches and keywords etc while waiting for the weekly modules.
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  • Profile picture of the author BricknMortar
    What are you referring to
    (This $750 thing?) is there something additional to buy? Also is this downloadable or do you have to work off their server?
    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by BricknMortar View Post

      What are you referring to
      (This $750 thing?) is there something additional to buy? Also is this downloadable or do you have to work off their server?
      Thanks
      You can pay $3k or $750 per something, they don't bother to mention whether it's $750 pw , per day or per month.

      They simply don't state what the payment terms are, very poor.
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      • Profile picture of the author BricknMortar
        Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

        You can pay $3k or $750 per something, they don't bother to mention whether it's $750 pw , per day or per month.

        They simply don't state what the payment terms are, very poor.
        Ok - now I get it - it's a payment plan, to make it a little less painful
        Thanks for the response..

        ----- QUESTION FOR EVERYONE - - - -

        I was thinking of either buying into the system or looking for partners - I would pay for traffic on offers that were currently profitable (with a little history). So if your making $25 a day on a $10p/d ad spend - lets work together and I could bump the ad spend to $50p/d or so then we could split the profit 50/50.

        What do all of the magic bullet folks think?
        What do all of the experienced IM / CPA folks think?
        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
          Originally Posted by BricknMortar View Post

          Ok - now I get it - it's a payment plan, to make it a little less painful
          Thanks for the response..

          ----- QUESTION FOR EVERYONE - - - -

          I was thinking of either buying into the system or looking for partners - I would pay for traffic on offers that were currently profitable (with a little history). So if your making $25 a day on a $10p/d ad spend - lets work together and I could bump the ad spend to $50p/d or so then we could split the profit 50/50.

          What do all of the magic bullet folks think?
          What do all of the experienced IM / CPA folks think?
          Thanks
          I think there's probably some confusion , the product may be called the magic bullet but if it could truly simply go out and search absolute guaranteed ROI campaigns with no doubt it would be worth about $10k a day..

          It's a tool, perhaps a good one but just a tool.

          Does anybody know whether this $750 is per day/week/ month ?

          They don#t make any effort to be clear as to the rebill schedule.
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          • Profile picture of the author BricknMortar
            I know what you mean,
            but what I'm offering is fiscal support for the guys (NOT LIKE AMISH) who can't afford $1k a day in ad spend. I'm looking for people who have already done the work and have a profitable campaign but don't have the funds to ramp it up. They made their invest in time etc, I'd make my investment in $$ and we'd both win. Of course there would be some stipulations I'm not just going to act like an ATM.
            Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
              Originally Posted by BricknMortar View Post

              I know what you mean,
              but what I'm offering is fiscal support for the guys (NOT LIKE AMISH) who can't afford $1k a day in ad spend. I'm looking for people who have already done the work and have a profitable campaign but don't have the funds to ramp it up. They made their invest in time etc, I'd make my investment in $$ and we'd both win. Of course there would be some stipulations I'm not just going to act like an ATM.
              Thanks
              Ahh, I misunderstood.

              I guess you may find somebody willing to share their account. I can't speak for anybody else but when I've found big time winning campaigns in anything I've always been able to find the resources , amazing how friends can suddenly come up with $20k overnight when there's a promise of a 30% return in 30 days :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    Magic Bullet is $797/month for 4 months.

    Or 1 payment of $2,997.

    I have been going through the modules, the software has been pretty fast so far from what I have seen.

    The software will provide powerful information, tracking etc, however users will have to take action and run campaigns with it to make money.

    Personally I don't think it is suitable for newbies, I believe more experienced marketers will get far more out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Well I took the plunge, I'll report back when I've seen the s/w and been able to give it a fair chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      First impressions:

      Post order, get to a thank you page with some contact details on it, no instant access which for $3k you would think would be a no brainer.

      A promise however to activate you within 24 hours.

      I was activated within 4 hours.

      No complaints.

      The members area is coded well and a has a feel of quality about it.

      The content is extremely sparse on the ground right now but this is drip fed, which is a pain in the ass as I would rather doing 16 hour days and digest it all but this was made clear before purchasing so no complaints can be levelled at them.

      Just watching the "welcome" video which is basicaly the same video Amish has shown in various products and seminars.

      "I was arrested by the FBI for hacking, yada yada yada".

      Guess it's hard to be inspired so far for $3k but it has the feel of things to come..
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        nvm - Simon answered my question earlier in the thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author Psy
        I got in on this for the second round launch..

        As always with these things, there's so much buzz built up about the launch, and you're not sure whether to listen to all the list emails you're getting, because the Gurus are all getting paid $1,500 per sale, so they're pretty darn likely to say it's good

        I've done the week 1 training which I thought was poor. It was all over the place with no real plan of what was happening. Looks like they put up a webinar in response to people's feedback that it lacked direction, and I'm expecting that to clarify the week 1 goals/aims/processes.

        The system does look good, however, I just think they'd spent too long on the launch and not enough on getting the first week training sorted.

        I will report on the week 1 webinar and week 2 training soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartanic
    Here's something thats confusing.

    In one of Amish's launch videos he promotes MSN's Smileys via Google Adwords and shows how profitable it has been for him. He takes us through his adwords account and shows us which keywords he's bidding on.

    However one thing I noticed is that even though his Neverblue account shows how many conversions it has made his Adwords account shows zero conversions. My question is shouldn't he also be tracking his conversions down to the keyword level? Neverblue makes it super easy to track your conversions by simply dropping in your conversion code so it doesn't make sense why he wouldn't do this.

    Its either he's doing something that I don't know about or promoting a product that he hasn't actually made any conversions with.

    Whats your take on this?
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      Originally Posted by spartanic View Post

      Here's something thats confusing.

      In one of Amish's launch videos he promotes MSN's Smileys via Google Adwords and shows how profitable it has been for him. He takes us through his adwords account and shows us which keywords he's bidding on.

      However one thing I noticed is that even though his Neverblue account shows how many conversions it has made his Adwords account shows zero conversions. My question is shouldn't he also be tracking his conversions down to the keyword level? Neverblue makes it super easy to track your conversions by simply dropping in your conversion code so it doesn't make sense why he wouldn't do this.

      Its either he's doing something that I don't know about or promoting a product that he hasn't actually made any conversions with.

      Whats your take on this?
      Amish is tracking his conversions but not with adwords,the magic bullet system has tracking already built in.In the last pre-launch video he shows his smiley campaign and how the system has tracked everything.

      The MBS tracking is far superior to adwords tracking.
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      • Profile picture of the author spartanic
        Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

        Amish is tracking his conversions but not with adwords,the magic bullet system has tracking already built in.In the last pre-launch video he shows his smiley campaign and how the system has tracked everything.

        The MBS tracking is far superior to adwords tracking.
        That was one my assumptions as well. I wonder how to compares to Tracking202? Guess we'll never know unless we buy-in as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author searchenginepro
    "I remember ordering CPA Ninja back in the summer. The course was very basic , although wordpress direct is a great software and that I would recommend to anybody out there, although now I've seen different spin offs from WPD. I personally feel Marty is a more of a reputable guy than Amish. I orderd hexatrack which just stopped working for no reason.. then i ordered Google goggles which was useless and i did not bite on the magic bullet software due to the fact that they wanted to drag it out for 4-5 weeks . For a newbie it might be worth it but for someone that has an pretty good idea of what is going on.. maybe not.. Then again as per there money back guarantee maybe some of the new stuff they will release will in fact blow you away.... but even it dose.. why would u not still ask for a refund.. something about that money back guarantee makes no sense to me."

    This is my point - Amish is talking up a new offer when he can't take care of customers that have bought other products or even respond to trouble tickets. Doesn't matter how good the product or price is if you can't support it.

    On another rant - It blows me away with all the other gurus touting the MagicBullet system when they've never even tested it out or can show some real world results. This goes for any product launch. Don't tell the folks to buy into something if you cannot demonstrate that you can make it work.

    I've been in the game for a bit and have a pretty heafty PPC spend every day in the mid four digit range.
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    • Profile picture of the author udo
      Okay, so curiosity got the better of me and I bought it at the last minute.

      Here is the problem with this product:

      The software is not functional!

      The modules become available on a weekly basis.

      Why is this a problem?

      Because once you get full access to system your refund period will be over!

      This means you can not evaluate the product during the refund period.
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      • Profile picture of the author ben565
        Originally Posted by udo View Post

        Okay, so curiosity got the better of me and I bought it at the last minute.

        Here is the problem with this product:

        The software is not functional!

        The modules become available on a weekly basis.

        Why is this a problem?

        Because once you get full access to system your refund period will be over!

        This means you can not evaluate the product during the refund period.
        Not true,
        By the beginning of week 3 you are able to build your blog and track conversions, so that gives you a full 3 weeks to test out the system.
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      • Profile picture of the author beantownmarketing
        Originally Posted by udo View Post

        Okay, so curiosity got the better of me and I bought it at the last minute.

        Here is the problem with this product:

        The software is not functional!

        The modules become available on a weekly basis.

        Why is this a problem?

        Because once you get full access to system your refund period will be over!

        This means you can not evaluate the product during the refund period.
        By week 3 you'll have something up and running...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    He should take care of his earlier business customers before he starts this one. He's getting behind with this too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Anybody else having problems with the software today?

      It's good so far what I've seen of it but it seems a bit up and down in terms of functionality.

      Sometimes I enter a keyword into the spy tool and it just sits there for 5 minutes "loading"

      Other times it's fine.

      Still unsure as to what I think about this as a whole, but going to give it the next couple of days to give it a fair try.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpsolutions1
        Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

        Anybody else having problems with the software today?

        It's good so far what I've seen of it but it seems a bit up and down in terms of functionality.

        Sometimes I enter a keyword into the spy tool and it just sits there for 5 minutes "loading"

        Other times it's fine.

        Still unsure as to what I think about this as a whole, but going to give it the next couple of days to give it a fair try.
        I have experienced that too, however not a concern. I personally feel that until I have complete control over all the functionality of the system, I am limited in providing feedback. I have blogs up and some of the drips are applicable and some are not. But I can not modify them to make them more relevant. It is my understanding this access will be within the next week or two. Then I am guessing that another two weeks will be needed to target offers etc that are profitable for me. So my guess is another month to finish the roll out and optimize. Drop me a line via skype Simon and we can keep each other posted.
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        • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
          Magic Bullet System Private Free Mastermind Group.

          Check out the thread here...

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ind-group.html

          Magic Bullet isn't coming anymore, it's here!
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        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
          Originally Posted by tpsolutions1 View Post

          Drop me a line via skype Simon and we can keep each other posted.
          Done but looks like Pete below is putting together something more useful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by JasonDevans View Post

      Looking forward to the magic bullet as I hear a lot of hype about this!
      It's already released and sold out Jason.

      BTW:

      Anybody else seen this:
      Digispace

      Does "Revenue Logix" sound extremely familiar ?

      UPDATE:

      More I play with this software the more I like it, have to admit, it's quite a time saver , still keep bumping into issues here and there with various modules but overall it's pretty damm smart.
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      • Profile picture of the author veotis
        Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

        It's already released and sold out Jason.

        BTW:

        Anybody else seen this:
        Digispace

        Does "Revenue Logix" sound extremely familiar ?

        UPDATE:

        More I play with this software the more I like it, have to admit, it's quite a time saver , still keep bumping into issues here and there with various modules but overall it's pretty damm smart.
        Wow, ymultimedia, hexatrack and revenue logix all on one page. And, the company is based in San Diego......
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  • Profile picture of the author Zach Booker
    Better make sure the software is open so no one can peak at your campaigns.
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    • Profile picture of the author chanetsa
      I bought in. Will take a little while to see if there is value. The information is The best feature so far is the way it creates websites and continuously populates with content. The biggest concern is privacy.

      Will let you know how I go later...
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      • Profile picture of the author chainsaw
        Well so does, Caffeinated Content, WPRobot, WPDirect... For a lot less I might add.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayman
    Sorry to bring this back, but for those who took a bite, any honest review on the
    course ? Anyone making BIG money ? Just wondering
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    This was taken from another thread
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3479312

    Remember that Magic Bullet video where Amish Shah was telling people to promote Smileycentral on Neverblue by making a fake "Download MSN Messenger" landing page?

    Well he just got sued. This is just the next of several "gurus" that are gonna get a smackdown for all of their "shenanigans".

    http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...sftcybersq.pdf

    On Microsoft and ‘Contributory Cybersquatting’ - Law Blog - WSJ
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  • Profile picture of the author believemarketing
    got sued by microsoft... thats gotta hurt....
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    Tired, overloaded? Laugh a bit at Laughly

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    • Profile picture of the author netoctane
      Magic Bullet For Sale!

      Yup, we forked $3K for the course.

      They did have some bugs when they launched but they've been very good at taking care of issues.

      I think if you're looking to get into media buys and need software and expertise, this is a great course to get involved.

      Don't expect something for nothing -- You have to apply their process and make it happen.

      Looking for $1K -- Will transfer logins.

      First come first served.
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