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Anyone heard of this or tried it? I got emails from Stompernet and Reese about this, saw the videos and it looks intriguing but no info on it yet.

Please consider passing along any info....thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelby
    I like Shoemoney... but from what I understand, the system is a monthly charge and you get emailed new videos each week. I'm not a fan of the "everyday you do a little" stuff. If I order a system or training materials, I want it all right then and there.

    He seems like an honest guy though and he's certainly plugged in. I'll be interested to hear more as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
      Originally Posted by Kelby View Post

      I like Shoemoney... but from what I understand, the system is a monthly charge and you get emailed new videos each week. I'm not a fan of the "everyday you do a little" stuff. If I order a system or training materials, I want it all right then and there.

      He seems like an honest guy though and he's certainly plugged in. I'll be interested to hear more as well.

      Kelby,

      Yeah, I like the guy a lot, but that's exactly how I feel about it, too.

      What happens if the module I'm really interested in isn't released for months? The wait would be painful.

      Johnny
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      • Profile picture of the author spazz896
        Hey,

        I viewed 1 of the content videos.

        I was actually really surpised by the quality of the content shoe provides, I even
        learned a few new things which is rare nowadays for me. The guy has a sharp mind.

        He's mainly focusing on teaching complete 'tech newbies' from scratch via weekly video.
        Plus $1000+ in ad coupons from msn/yahoo/google etc.

        I did a lil review on my blog about the specific video I watched.
        You can check it out here:
        ShoeMoney System - 6 Ways To Make Money Online

        It was kinda funny the video i watched was 'accidentally non-edited' and at the end
        he was dropping so many F-bombs from screwing up on retakes and stuff. It was Hilirious!

        Thanks,
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        • Profile picture of the author Seth Stewart
          It's not just the time-drip method, it's the price, too.

          200 bucks up front plus 200 bucks every month is a substantial commitment for the non-tech newbies he seems to gearing this towards. It's gonna feel like big pressure on those newbs to make at least a couple grand in their first 6 months just to cover their course & setup expenses, so he better instill a lot of confidence and real profit-making know-how right away.

          Even with the best courses in the world, the majority of newbs don't make their first 2K in profit for many months, sometimes only after a year or so, and of course many drop out completely.

          So I think he's asking too much.

          But the most important thing is, is it a truly new approach with untried methods, or just another rehash of all the IM/SEO basics? There's nothing wrong with a solid, complete course on the basics, but there's already plenty of those out there that can be had for a lot less. My favorite is Richard Legg's comprehensive course (and no I'm not an affiliate) and all the Bootcamps from Jeremy Kelsall, a Warrior Forum favorite. And thery're both much cheaper.
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          • Profile picture of the author PyrogenicMedia
            Originally Posted by rhythm View Post

            It's not just the time-drip method, it's the price, too.

            200 bucks up front plus 200 bucks every month is a substantial commitment for the non-tech newbies he seems to gearing this towards. It's gonna feel like big pressure on those newbs to make at least a couple grand in their first 6 months just to cover their course & setup expenses, so he better instill a lot of confidence and real profit-making know-how right away.

            Even with the best courses in the world, the majority of newbs don't make their first 2K in profit for many months, sometimes only after a year or so, and of course many drop out completely.
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            Yeah i wrote the same thing on my blog here

            I dont think its just the price. I mean $200 isnt that much, ive seen things go for far more. And when you think about things such as senuke, thats $150 nowadays per month? And thats not teaching you diddly squat.

            But the problem is who he is gearing it towards with that price tag. He wants to teach newbies, but instead i think all the 500 seats will be filled with people who are just interested in the course in general, and people who are already well known in the industry. Like bloggers who want to do a small review or who are more interested.

            What newbie to the affiliate market world, (Like serious beginner), has $200 dollars to spare. And ontop of that, what serious beginner is on all the guru's mailing list to hear about this thing? The people who know about the course, are generally marketing people themselves. Not stay at home moms who need a break.

            Unless ofcourse he did some offline marketing that we havnt heard about. I just cant see the course picking up any of the target demographic.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmayne
    Do they not offer any way to get the full program? I have seen this one a few places too. I was interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveCThomas
    I've seen an add or two, but I shy away from most of these "pay a monthly fee and we'll make you rich" things
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  • Profile picture of the author stfu
    I had attended his online chat session couple of weeks back. I felt that the features described were a bit of hype but can't really say unless someone who has tried it would speak out.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashumer
    The Guy has made 10Million and now wants to make more
    No wonder why he is charging so much!
    He MUST have something GOOD to offer as his reputation is at stake
    Some say it's quality you are paying for but I would expect a far deal more - I am sure at this price it will be worth it.
    Like Michael Cheney's Delta Squadron - Very good - but expensive
    We Newbies, Intermediates and even Advanced IMs are always looking for that silver bullet
    Dare we admit-There AIN'T one!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by ashumer View Post

      The Guy has made 10Million and now wants to make more
      No wonder why he is charging so much!
      Another Michael Chaney ???
      Some say it's quality you are paying for but I can get what he is offering for next to nothing by some serious surfing on the net
      We Newbies, Intermediates and even Advanced IMs are always looking for that silver bullet
      Lets admit it. There AIN'T one!
      I always laugh at posts like this. Especially when they are talking about the price of the course.

      You can always spend a heap more learning this for yourself. Not to mention the long daily hours, 7 days a week of work for years.

      No, you can't get some of this stuff for free by searching. You either pay for this knowledge or work your butt of to find out what works.

      The search online for free mentality is why so many people don't make any money at all.

      It doesn't matter to me if you want to cut corners with your life. The more I spend on these types of courses the more money I make. Funny how that works out.

      I guess if this stuff is freely found online, then we don't need online coaches like in your sig.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy Hussong
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        I always laugh at posts like this. Especially when they are talking about the price of the course.

        You can always spend a heap more learning this for yourself. Not to mention the long daily hours, 7 days a week of work for years.

        No, you can't get some of this stuff for free by searching. You either pay for this knowledge or work your butt of to find out what works.

        The search online for free mentality is why so many people don't make any money at all.

        It doesn't matter to me if you want to cut corners with your life. The more I spend on these types of courses the more money I make. Funny how that works out.

        I guess if this stuff is freely found online, then we don't need online coaches like in your sig.
        I totally agree. If you don't have a dime to your name or just extremely low on funds, then yes... learn for free until you get things going, but the absolute WORST advice I see time and time again is...

        "Don't spend money on a product. Just search threads on this forum to learn everything you need."

        The key is to do enough research to pinpoint ONE EXPERT on a specific topic who seems to know his stuff, and then buy ONE product from him/her and completely devour it, take action on it, track your results, and keep doing what works (& stop doing what doesn't).

        Spending hours online to learn stuff from bits and pieces of information is honestly one of the worst uses of your time imaginable (you feel like you're working, but you're really just spinning your wheels).

        Just my 2 cents.
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        • Profile picture of the author furqan
          Originally Posted by Andy Hussong View Post

          I totally agree. If you don't have a dime to your name or just extremely low on funds, then yes... learn for free until you get things going, but the absolute WORST advice I see time and time again is...

          "Don't spend money on a product. Just search threads on this forum to learn everything you need."

          The key is to do enough research to pinpoint ONE EXPERT on a specific topic who seems to know his stuff, and then buy ONE product from him/her and completely devour it, take action on it, track your results, and keep doing what works (& stop doing what doesn't).

          Spending hours online to learn stuff from bits and pieces of information is honestly one of the worst uses of your time imaginable (you feel like you're working, but you're really just spinning your wheels).

          Just my 2 cents.
          I totally agree with you guys! Because the expert spend time for researching which we dont have to. We need to give him/her the credit what they offer for. As we all know TIME is MONEY.

          Always buy an informatve porduct that save your hours.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
            Went over the shoe money lesson today it was about a general view on going to BLogs, Forums, and Post. Not to impressed so far this is day 15 and still have not taken any steps to make money. I agree with raedheadmamma $197.00 per month is a lot for basic information I know Shoe money has a geat reputation buy you have to deliver some thing for that kind of money people will jump ship if you promise something and don't deliver. But we will see what happens I will keep you updated.
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          • Profile picture of the author kingrussell23
            I would just like to weigh in on my opinion of the ShoeMoney System so far. I joined on launch day and have also been pretty underwhelmed. My fear is that content will be held back to ensure that people stick with it past the refund date, like a carrot just dangling over our heads. I am completely willing to pay but I have to know that I will at the very least break even. I am getting increasingly frustrated everyday because I do not have a website and it appears to me that you need one to make money. Shoe claims that isn't true but I have my doubts. As far as asking for help, I have not been satisfied. Sometimes my question goes unanswered, or the answer is very short. Lately, with Azoogle, my questions are being pawned off to Affiliate Managers with Azoogle. This is enfuriating because I am paying ShoeMoney not Azoogle. From what I have read, it is not easy to get into Azoogle, and the only reason I was accepted was because I am a member of ShoeMoney so I am pleased with that. However, what good is it to get in if I can't use it effectively. It's like getting into a VIP party but not being to go past the coat check. I am sorry for rambling on but I really needed a place to vent. I am sticking with this for another couple weeks but I need to see a monetary gain or some sort. I will keep everyone posted. Thanks

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        • Profile picture of the author AFFILIATE ROB
          Originally Posted by Andy Hussong View Post

          The key is to do enough research to pinpoint ONE EXPERT on a specific topic who seems to know his stuff, and then buy ONE product from him/her and completely devour it, take action on it, track your results, and keep doing what works).

          Spending hours online to learn stuff from bits and pieces of information is honestly one of the worst uses of your time imaginable (you feel like you're working, but you're really just spinning your wheels).
          I truly feel this is the best advice any of us can have. And it's not like Andy invented it - this is repeated time and time again by people who know what the heck they're talking about.

          I think the problem is that under the umbrella of Internet Marketing there are so many ways to make money, and there are so many products out here for each area. Case in point - how many affiliate marketing products compete with each other? How about CPA, Google Adsense, website flipping, or making money with Facebook? It's almost endless. People tend to get overwhelmed.

          It's almost like you have to make a decision, buy a product from a guru you trust and have researched, and commit yourself to that product. Then, if you like, come back and try another product.

          BTW - I consider products like Video Boss or Market Samurai "tools" that you need to help you with the area of IM that you choose.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        I always laugh at posts like this. Especially when they are talking about the price of the course.

        You can always spend a heap more learning this for yourself. Not to mention the long daily hours, 7 days a week of work for years.

        No, you can't get some of this stuff for free by searching. You either pay for this knowledge or work your butt of to find out what works.

        The search online for free mentality is why so many people don't make any money at all.

        It doesn't matter to me if you want to cut corners with your life. The more I spend on these types of courses the more money I make. Funny how that works out.

        I guess if this stuff is freely found online, then we don't need online coaches like in your sig.


        Well said brother.
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      • Profile picture of the author ashumer
        I do agree-You need to work your butt off for this knowledge
        This is why I have edited my initial post
        This and a great deal of thought
        To say something smart is always easy but to think it out and retract takes a hellvu lot
        Shoemoney has something to offer that we can only find from joining....
        As Thomas Belknap says-we could cut the time element and start making money by spending money!
        The proof of the pudding is in the eating
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        I always laugh at posts like this. Especially when they are talking about the price of the course.

        You can always spend a heap more learning this for yourself. Not to mention the long daily hours, 7 days a week of work for years.
        Not to mention they don't even know what's in the course to start with. How do they know the info they're finding for "free" is the info that is in the course? In fact, how do you even search for something you don't even know exists yet, lol?


        What newbie to the affiliate market world, (Like serious beginner), has $200 dollars to spare.
        Plenty. What does being a newbie/slash beginner to the affiliate market world have to do with how much money someone has? Not everyone interested in starting their own business is broke.
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        • Profile picture of the author michaelr7
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          Plenty. What does being a newbie/slash beginner to the affiliate market world have to do with how much money someone has? Not everyone interested in starting their own business is broke.
          Right on. There is waaay too much talk about this misconception that beginners haven't got any money.

          But they can lose a lot of money (and get a bad case of info overload) if they keep falling for every get-rich-quick program out there. THEN, such people could reach a stage that when a genuine coaching program comes along, they haven't got the funds for it.

          Michael
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          • Profile picture of the author emathieu
            Originally Posted by michaelr7 View Post

            Right on. There is waaay too much talk about this misconception that beginners haven't got any money.

            But they can lose a lot of money (and get a bad case of info overload) if they keep falling for every get-rich-quick program out there. THEN, such people could reach a stage that when a genuine coaching program comes along, they haven't got the funds for it.

            Michael
            I agree. I think that if people would stop buying every $7, $27, and $47 WSO that comes out and put some of that money together to take advantage of one good offer from someone who they actually know is successful online, that they would be better off. Chasing every "latest" offer (that is usually just a bunch of rehashed stuff that the person selling it isn't even applying) just leaves most people spinning their wheels and they end up spending more than they would have on one solid course that could have actually taught them something of value. I'm not saying by any means that all or most WSOs are bad by any means, but I see many of the same people buying every one that comes out, and then see those same people post in other threads that they aren't making any money online.

            For what it's worth, I signed up to the Shoemoney System as soon as it opened, and at launch, it is a bit underwhelming for someone like myself who has been doing business online for quite a while. These first three videos are definitely geared to complete newbies (well, one is just an introduction/welcome to the system). BUT, knowing Jeremy and what he has accomplished online, I'm certain that there is going to be a lot of great information coming really soon. There is no way that Shoe is going to put his rep in jeopardy by not delivering. Plus, he's offering a money back guarantee and automatic cancellation via Clickbank, so there's not much risk.

            I happily signed up and forked over my first $197. I'm certain that what I pick up from Shoe will give me many multiples of that in returns. Also, this is certainly not expensive compared to many of the other truly good quality information providers out there - not by a long shot IMO.

            I do realize that not everyone can drop $197/month, but I'm just saying that those people may be better served to save up $1000 and stop buying other programs in the meantime and sign up when they can (not just to the Shoemoney system, but any of the better "expensive" offers). I think most, especially newbies, would get a better return on their money that way than buying 100 different "inexpensive" info products.

            I'll post updates on the Shoemoney System once they start delivering the meat of the course.

            Eric.
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            • Profile picture of the author michaelr7
              Originally Posted by emathieu View Post

              For what it's worth, I signed up to the Shoemoney System as soon as it opened, and at launch, it is a bit underwhelming for someone like myself who has been doing business online for quite a while. These first three videos are definitely geared to complete newbies (well, one is just an introduction/welcome to the system). BUT, knowing Jeremy and what he has accomplished online, I'm certain that there is going to be a lot of great information coming really soon. There is no way that Shoe is going to put his rep in jeopardy by not delivering. Plus, he's offering a money back guarantee and automatic cancellation via Clickbank, so there's not much risk.

              I happily signed up and forked over my first $197. I'm certain that what I pick up from Shoe will give me many multiples of that in returns. Also, this is certainly not expensive compared to many of the other truly good quality information providers out there - not by a long shot IMO.

              I do realize that not everyone can drop $197/month, but I'm just saying that those people may be better served to save up $1000 and stop buying other programs in the meantime and sign up when they can (not just to the Shoemoney system, but any of the better "expensive" offers). I think most, especially newbies, would get a better return on their money that way than buying 100 different "inexpensive" info products.
              I also signed up as soon as it opened. Although I'm not a newbie, I'm bound to learn new stuff that I haven't been exposed to till now.

              It's not often that you get a chance to join a coaching program run by someone who has actually walked the walk - to the tune of millions of dollars profits online. Although the initial videos are very basic, he is adding a new video every 3 days, each one a little more advanced than the previous one.

              He mentioned in yesterday's webinar that by day 17, there will be material posted that will be actionable on how to make money with CPA offers. And that's just for starters.

              Michael
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              • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
                Into my first week of the shoemoney system so far very basic system the topics covered is Affiliate CPA what it is not how to use it yet and a sign up video for clickbank which you can easily find online for free. Still waiting for the meat and potatoes of the program. Shoemaker is a very nice guy and explains it very well but so far their is not much substance I hope in the next couple of day we will start doing some CPA offers but we will see. The program does not have a forum so it is hard to know what is comming up next. Will keep you updated take care and have a nice day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelby
    What I don't like are high-priced membership programs that want to teach you EVERYTHING. I mean, I spend $99/mo. on like 5 membership programs (ie. Perry Marshall for PPC, etc), and each of these programs are geared specifically to ONE facet of IM (be it PPC, SEO, Copywriting, etc.). So when I see one guy trying to sell a course teaching EVERYTHING for $200/mo... I'm not so fast to buy. I like Shoemoney, but I'll have to wait and hear some feedback from any subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshHarris
    I'm in Shoemoney System since its prelaunch, have got invitation from my friend. So far so good I've learned quite a lot of things (i'm newbie) and it already paid itself!

    I've made over $400 on commissions by now, and I'm in for 3 weeks. So anybody considering if it's worth the money - depends on how much you apply. See my blog shoemoneysystemreview.org
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    I have been wondering about this for a while now. I saw it posted up on Zac Johnson's website a few weeks back and thought it looked interesting. I was actually thinking of joining but the fact remains, it is for beginners. If you aren't a total newbie, it's more likely that someone that is won't be able to get in :\

    Would really like to hear more reviews about it. (also that guy 3 posts above looks like he's just trying to score lol)

    I just got an email from shoemaker saying it re-opened too... hmmm.
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  • Profile picture of the author emathieu
    It's definitely still VERY basic so far. At one point earlier today, the video for Azoogle was there, which basically just gave a little info on Azoogleads and walked through the sign up process. Later, it was removed and the Clickbank video is there. I guess initially the wrong video was posted at the wrong time.

    I'm guessing that he is going to walk newbies through signing up at the various networks and then start getting to the meat of it.

    Definitely starting out very slowly, but I'm curious to see where it heads...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
      I agree with you no meat and potatoes yet on the 15 day and still very basic have not taken any action to make money online yet. Hope somethng happens soon the $197 is alot of money for individuals that are unemployed trying to make money online but if he comes through and helps members make up the monthly fees they will be members for life. We will see what happens. Take care I will keep you updated
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  • Profile picture of the author redheadmama
    I'm enrolled, and so far, I am not that impressed. Today we learned that forums, blogs, and social networking are good ways to get traffic, and the next video is going to show us how to create a forum account. Seriously? This is what $197 a month gets me?
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  • Profile picture of the author redheadmama
    Now I'm starting to get irritated. I didn't receive an email for today's webinar, and have emailed twice through the Shoemoney System dashboard with no response. I really respect Shoe, so I'm going to be patient, but.....yeah. Learning how to set up a Gmail account really wasn't what I had in mind when I signed up for this course.
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    • Profile picture of the author emathieu
      I haven't been receiving any emails either. And they're not in my spam folder... I guess I'm not the only one. I've been to busy to bother contacting support.
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    • Profile picture of the author kingrussell23
      Hey, I was thinking we should keep in contact considering you are with the system as well. Since they haven't put a forum up on the site yet it would be comforting to talk to someone who is going through the same thing. I just watched the forum video and short of getting increasingly irritated with Jeremy's assistant, I took from it that we need a website. I just don't get it because he preached going into this thing that it wasn't necessary. Do you have a website? Any concerns? Comments? Thanks!

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      • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
        Hey Peter,
        I agree this is a good place to communicate about the shoe money system. I am also a little frustrated today we went over Forums it was good how they talked about the relationship but there has not been any training on how to actually make money yet. This is day 17 and as you said they may be drawing it out to go past the refund deadline. I thought be now they would have at least set up a CPA campaign so we can start to see results. It looks to me like at this pace we will not do that until at least the 2 month.

        I will keep everyone updated and hope others will put there opion in as well Jeremy is a nice guy but for $197.00 a month people want to see results at least some return on investment.

        Take Care
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      • Profile picture of the author TheiPreneur
        Well.. I've thrown in the towel yesterday. I don't know Jeremy and from what I see he seems like a nice guy and have great intentions with Shoemoney but I'm not getting any value that's worth the $197/month so far. With week #3 webinar in play and not being notified and Jeremy being interrupted with his phone, IM and his assistant laughing for eveything that's said just tells me there's no respect for his viewers. I hope that things work out for all of you but I just don't have the patience... I'm sorry. Rather than going on with what's going wrong over at Shoemoney.... I have to move on..

        I've learned more from Ed Dale and his crew over at 30 Day Challenge and it's FREE! I've moved on to their Edge Blueprint content and it's done in a way that is very professional. Sorry for the plug here but some of you who want the meat and potatoes I feel that this is in the right direction. I like the fact that these folks take their business very serious and with their followers. No BS and have no carrot at the end of their shtick. They recommend the 30DC before joining.

        I'm new too and so if I've offend anyone here I apologize... but I'm taking this path very serious and I'm sure many of you here are as well.

        Much success everyone!

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  • Profile picture of the author ILUVCA$H
    I have worked with Shoemoney in the past and he has a great team. If you have questions about the system I think the best time to ask questions is before you buy it - just shoot them an email I am sure they will be more then happy to expand on how their system will help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author redheadmama
    @Iluvcash, I've emailed the support behind Shoemoney System three times with no response, Twittered three times with no response. I'm not getting emails for webinars and missed the one on Thursday.

    That doesn't sound like a great team to me.

    And learning how to set up a Gmail account, a forum account, etc. along with Boobs Magee is not my idea of money well spent.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
      I believe that Shoemoney was not prepared for the response that he recieved it does not make since that in the first 19 days of the program all he has taught was how to sign up on gmail. When in is sale later he promised to teach us how to make money online I mean there has not been much action on the actual making money.

      You can't expect people to pay $197.00 and get basic information that you can find for free on the internet and not be upset. I just don't think the product was ready for launch and that is why you only get 2 short videos a week.

      I am just venting there is no Forum on the shoe money site so we come here. Does anyone who is in the program of an opinion on the subject and what do you think about my evaluation? Take care and thanks for listening.


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  • Profile picture of the author azland55
    Hi
    Must admit we nearly did go for his course but backed out at the last minute.

    Have heard a lot of good comments about him though.
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  • Profile picture of the author brainworker
    I was a member of Shoemoney tools few months (maybe a year) back... it was $97 per month then...I left because I expected much better value for $97. I think it's the same stuff with some money making training videos!
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    • Profile picture of the author emathieu
      Just wanted to post an update and say that I did finally contact support, and was emailed back that they had changed email providers and that the problems should be resolved. It looks like it worked, as I *did* get an email today about the new video, which BTW, is finally getting into some good stuff.

      Looks like all of our comments are helping and they are going to reorder the videos to start giving us better value.
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  • Profile picture of the author inijames
    From the pre-videos it looked like it was pretty basic.
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  • Profile picture of the author redheadmama
    Just coming in to say that it looks like (hopefully) things are picking up, video-wise.
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    • Profile picture of the author emathieu
      Originally Posted by redheadmama View Post

      Just coming in to say that it looks like (hopefully) things are picking up, video-wise.
      Are you getting your emails now as well?
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      • Profile picture of the author kingrussell23
        Hi All,

        Sorry I have been MIA, I am visiting family and have been real busy. Just wanted to drop by and give an update. I agree with you Alansplace, I absolutely thought we would have a few campaigns going by now. I am not expecting $100s of dollars yet, but a couple dollars at least. I will say that the content has sped up a little bit but at the same time it isn't any hands on stuff that is beneficial to me. We just went over creating a paypal account and who doesn't have one of those??? The next three videos are going to be all ebay related and deal with the basics of ebay, listing an item and making a purchase. So, those will round out the week and it will be another week gone where I am not really satisfied. The one positive video was about arbitrage and how to use it online. I found that pretty interesting but we didn't do real time examples. There was also a webinar that I didn't get much out of. I would also like to point out that in these webinars Jeremy could act a bit more professional and his assistant could as well. I really am not the kind of person to complain about how people act, but things happened too many times to not be mentioned. His phone was going off, he was getting instant messages, they were laughing a lot, losing his train of thought, not being able to read questions properly. Not a huge deal, but at this point with people not making any money, these things will really start to annoy people. At this point I have made zero dollars and am getting increasingly nervous about spending too much money. Well, that's it for me. I would love to hear some more thoughts from other members and if anyone has questions for me feel free to ask.

        Pete
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        • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
          Today in the shoemoney system we went over ebay buying and selling very informative but the video was only 20 mins. long and we have to wait another four days for the next one. It is really drawn out the process of waiting 3 or 4 days just to get a few steps is really getting old. What is your opinion on the system? Do you think it is taking to long to put out videos? Also following the videos there is no way to make a profit yet the individual in the prior post said that he had a $400.00 profit in week three during the beta test I don't know how he did it because as of today 24th day in we have not been shown how to make a profit please give me a opinion on this also? Thanks for listening will keep you updated.
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          • Profile picture of the author trbdigital
            Allan - I tend to agree with you. I sent a message to Shoemoney, but never got a reply. He's making me feel stressed by teasing me with content that is coming, but not making it available. Even if you don't have a paypal account, it only takes 10 minutes to set it up.... Then what ... wait 3 more days for the next video.

            I like what's coming up, but I would like to see a new video every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author emathieu
    Well, it DOES look like Shoe and company are listening - Here's an excerpt from the email I just received:

    You Spoke, We Listened.

    One of the key principles we pride ourselves here at
    ShoeMoney Media, is constantly gathering feedback
    from members and acting upon it.

    You -- our 500 students, are the lifeblood of the
    ShoeMoney System and every single member of
    our team is 100% committed to empowering you
    with everything you need to know to make
    money online, while delivering a first-class experience
    all the way.

    * You said you want things to move faster.

    * You said you don't want the "how to create an account"
    type of videos, to be considered part of the core
    training.

    * And you said you want to go ahead and create all
    the accounts you'll need to succeed with the
    ShoeMoney System, as quickly as possible.

    ...We listened. And we took action.
    They are taking all of the really basic videos (how to sign up for an "x" account) and putting them all in a separate section of the members area. These are no longer considered to be "core" parts of the system, and all the videos from here on out are going to be hands-on.

    This sounds like great news - now we can get to the "meat" of the system.
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    • Profile picture of the author kingrussell23
      Hey All,

      Just wanted to say that I received the email too and it I am pleasantly surprised with the response to our complaints. Shoe has added a bunch of new videos broke into 2 categories: creating accounts & key topics. Looks like about 40 new videos. I am glad to see this. Also, the new ebay video actually could be a decent moneymaker. So, all in all, we are headed in a better direction.

      Pete
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcLearran
        I too have been using the ShoeMoney System and I will be honest. This is my first attempt at anything remotely near Affiliate Marketing / Internet Marketing. I am a single father who recently switched to 3rd shift just so I wouldn't lose my job. I work in the IT industry and I handle the equipment and software for 30+ states POS for hunting and fishing licenses.

        So what have I learned from the ShoeMoney System?
        By day 14, I had (after taking my own initiative) earned somewhere in the neighborhood of $95. As it has been said before the initial content of the system was very spoon fed. I signed up for SponsoredTweets, joined a couple of the Affiliate Networks that are linked to under the resources section and I signed up for a couple offers.

        Within 2 hours I had made $3 from SponsoredTweets and within 2 days, I had converted 2 sales for the offers I had signed up for bringing me to my $95.

        I do believe that there needs to be some sort of action plan that allows you to print out and check off as you progress through the system. For example: What to do within the first 15 days... What to do within the next 15 days..., etc.

        For some reason my videos are coming a few days after the emails go out.

        Coming from a true Affiliate Marketing noob I am all together pleased with the system. And if you sign up as an affiliate you only have to make 2 conversions (I hope I am getting the lingo correct) for the system to pay for itself.
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        • Profile picture of the author kingrussell23
          Hey John,

          I am confused as to how you have made money already using Sponsored Tweets. We have not covered that topic and the only thing listed is to sign up for it. There is no tutorial on how to use it and in fact Jeremy says not to for the time being. Also, I have received no help with Azoogle and as far as affiliate conversions go, like getting people to sign up and then getting a commission, I don't understand how that is possible when the shoemoney system is at capacity. No one has been able to answer that question for me.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcLearran
            Hi kingrussell23,

            Like I said I took the initiative and tried things myself. I am the type that consumes information at a rapid pace. So in the downtime between videos I started working through the resources section.

            After signing up at SponsoredTweets I received my first opportunity which netted me $1 per tweet. I did one and then a couple hours later I completed a couple more.

            I also signed up at a couple of the Affiliate & CPA Networks. I haven't made any money from Azoogle as of yet but I also signed up for ClickBank and ShareASale.

            Now, I already do website and graphic design and I knew that one of the frameworks I use (Thesis for WordPress by DIYtheme's) had an affiliate program. I found it on ShareASale. On my personal blog I added a text link that included my affiliate link. I use Thesis on a regular basis and I highly recommend it to anyone. The SEO built in is absolutely the defacto standard I feel all should be. No additional SEO plugins needed.

            One conversion/sale will net you $33. So I started tweeting about my site (I received about 20 to 30 visitors per day before hand) and to my surprise within about 8 hours had a sale.

            ClickBank is where you will find the ShoeMoney System Affiliate program. There was also another E-Marketing program on CB that had a really good gravity and payout. I signed up for it and then I posted a comment on my Facebook page in regards to the program. After a few hours I had a conversion on it and a little while later had another.

            I don't just limit myself to all thats available within the ShoeMoney System. I am subscribed to numerous affiliate marketing blogs and have read several freely available guides. I am looking to maximize the return on my investment so I do all I can to improve my odds at success.

            From what I have learned so far I do recommend that you sign up for more than just Azoogle and be ready for the rejection emails. I almost instantly received application rejection emails from several of the networks because I didn't have a history of Affiliate Marketing. However for every one I was rejected I was accepted for two others. After you sign up find something your familiar with or somewhat knowledgeable about. That way you will have something you can honestly stand behind. I know that if you follow this strategy you will limit yourself down the road but it makes it easier when your starting out.

            All in all I am glad I signed up for the ShoeMoney System as it does explain things in a very understandable way but don't limit yourself to just the information contained within the system. Search and learn from others as there is always more than one way to cook a chicken.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
              Hey JohnMcLearran,

              It sounds like you really have it going on, I mean you already have a blog know SEO, through DIY Themes and are doing programs that shoe money has not even gone over yet. Are you a member of shoe money system the reason why I ask is because you have not followed his steps there has not been any accounts set up for making money yet. I mean the only one that has been shown is the ebay system which according to you have not used.

              With your experience with all the networks I don't think you would need the program up to this point. The members are waiting for a step by step protocol as they were promised. It is great that you take initiative so I question if you are doing alot of this on your own why be in the program. Take care and prosper.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcLearran
                Hi Alansplace,

                Yes, I am a member of the ShoeMoney System (SMS), joined up on Feb 1st. I don't know that I have it going on its just that I found myself with a lot of downtime between videos. They are sent out every 2 to 3 days which left a lot of time I felt that could be utilized learning all I could in addition to the SMS.

                I have enjoyed the videos in the system as they have answered several important questions and have gotten me on my way. As far as experience with all the networks it's only a couple weeks along so I am far from a seasoned pro but I learn by doing. If I find myself with a question I ask it by either emailing Jeremy or if it's relating to a particular ad network or program I ask my affiliate manager for that network.

                From what I have learned affiliate managers are there to help you make money because the more you make the more they make. They have an interest to help you succeed.

                My goal within 6 months is to make 5 figures in one month. To do that I am going to be using all the available resources. For some that may not be much for me it's quite a bit. My income this past year was barely more than $23,000 from my primary job - down quite a bit from last year due to the economy. As of Feb 1 I had no knowledge of Affiliate Marketing. I am working to have the program pay for itself and from what I have heard others saying about week 5 of the program that is where you really get into the meat and potatoes (Arbitrage on eBay, etc).

                I do believe that I may be putting together an action plan to get started making money right off the bat but to do that one really needs to have a good understanding as to why it works. That's where the SMS comes in as it shows you the reasons why it works. My first venture into affiliate marketing was the SMS. I am still in my first month of learning all I can. What I have accomplished so far is not anything special. Anyone can do it.



                Until next time.
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        • Profile picture of the author The_Archer
          LOL

          Seems like every day, there is a new miracle to make money online... Which one to join??
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          • Profile picture of the author Bluewater
            Originally Posted by The_Archer View Post

            LOL

            Seems like every day, there is a new miracle to make money online... Which one to join??
            Not this one. Buy Micro Niche Finder and/or Market Samurai instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelby
    Any recent updates? I've been very interested to hear what the "meat" of the program is like. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author xbeckt
    Hi, Yes I'm a member of the Shoemoney system. Been doing it now for 6 weeks. We have covered a number of subjects from Arbitrage to Facebook. There has already been some money making opportunities with Ebay. I am a total newbie to internet marketing, and I'm enjoying the pace. I have started a blog (no ads or offers in it), covering my week to week exploits, and I'm just waiting for an auction to finish on Ebay to see if I've made my first few ££s! I really do think the course is great for a beginner and I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author unitminer
    I saw Shoemy on Affiliate Summit in Las Vegas as spokesman in some sessions and I'm sure content he is selling is worth of the price.
    e.g. he is one of the best marketers on Facebook
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  • Profile picture of the author judge47
    I joined the Shoemoney System after several years of on-line studying and buying products from reputable people that always had at least one step that I felt made the product a rip off. Usually it was not intentional. It would be something like "and then all you have to do is write a script to..." Hello??? Write a script??
    I like that Shoemoney is starting off crawling and making sure gaps in knowledge don't leave people behind. You also have to understand that you are also paying for his connections and getting advertising budget. Yes the class is pricey, but so is getting ripped off and so is buying this piece from one person and that piece from someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bluewater
    Well this thread has tempted me out of lurk mode.

    I joined the shoemoney sytem at the beginning, and with a few days to go before the 60 day refund period elapses have asked for a refund.

    I'm far from a newb having been making a full time living from the 'net for over 5 years now. But I realised I'd got lazy and wasn't trying much new. With a new baby on the way I wanted to ramp things up a little and thought Jeremy's course would give me some new inspiration and ideas, and hopefully push me to the next level.

    Has to be said I've been extremely disappointed with the content so far. The videos at the beginning were coming through painfully slow although to his credit he did release a batch of 40 or so all at once - but most of them were pretty useless to anyone that has used the Internet for more than 6 months. I mean do most people willing to spash 200 a month and who probably heard about the system through some affiliate marketers mail list really need a video teaching how to register at a forum or make a gmail address or facebook account?

    One thing I noticed at the beginning was that there was no research into who had actually subscribed to the system. Of the 500 or so initial sign ups, Jeremy didnt know how experienced they were or what they wanted out of it - just that they had money to spend. I emailed them about this apparent lack of knowing their audience (which is surely a fundamental in IM) and hey presto a few days later a short survey came out.

    It was mentioned that the system would be limited to 500 people, but there's been various hints dropped that suggests to me there are probably a lot more people than that already.

    Oh and the thousands of dollars of coupons for adwords facebook etc, no sign of those yet as we near the end of month two. "We dont want you to run before you can walk" - fine, but make that clear in your sales patter.

    There were many requests for a forum but Jeremy seemed almost scared of adding one - stating they cant be put up overnight (we all know they can) and he'd need more staff etc etc. I think he didnt want one because the new recruits would gain access to older material too soon.

    It seems to me that the course has been put together on a drip by drip basis, hoping to retain people long enough and keep a carrot dangling long enough for the next payment to come in, offering little but promising much.

    Maybe it was my fault thinking it was pitched at people with experience, but I'm not going to hang around paying $200 a month in the hope that something of use might come along one day.

    I spent the same amount of money as one months subscription on Micro Niche Finder and Market Samurai recently and have learned a hundred fold more just by watching the videos and playing with the software.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
      Great Post Kerby,

      I also ask for a refund due to the slow pace and high monthly cost of the course. Two hundred dollars a month is alot for the information you get alot of it you can find on youtube or just google it. Did not see any profit in the program when I was in as promised in is sales letter. Take care and hope the people who stay get their moneys worth. Take care
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      • Profile picture of the author michaelr7
        I'm also very disappointed with the slow pace.

        The program is open for 2 months. Would have expected some real meat by now. I'm considering canceling.
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  • Profile picture of the author wcchyau
    I asked for refund a week ago but only 1 payment was refunded, no response when I asked for help and there are people having the same problem like me. Not sure what is happened but seems like the 60 days money back guarantee is a broken promise.
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    • Profile picture of the author jonsjon
      Originally Posted by wcchyau View Post

      I asked for refund a week ago but only 1 payment was refunded, no response when I asked for help and there are people having the same problem like me. Not sure what is happened but seems like the 60 days money back guarantee is a broken promise.
      I too have the same experience. Made use of the "No Questions Asked, 100% No Risk Refund" because the shoemoney system was too much geared at americans. I don't know anybody who uses Ebay in my country.

      Canceled in the 60 days and didn't get a full refund. Will keep you updated, as this seems like deceptive marketing on shoes part. It's a pity, since I thought him to be different than others. Obviously at this time this doesn't seem a 100% no risk refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bluewater
      Originally Posted by wcchyau View Post

      I asked for refund a week ago but only 1 payment was refunded, no response when I asked for help and there are people having the same problem like me. Not sure what is happened but seems like the 60 days money back guarantee is a broken promise.
      Same here I'm afraid.

      First payment was refunded back to my card within 2 days. I'd been expecting both payments to be refunded since it was a "100% no risk refund" promise. When I asked for my second payment to be refunded too, they closed the ticket with the word 'refunded' and no further comment. Waited 8 days no sign of the refund back to my card.

      Reopened the ticket and they closed it again in exactly the same way with no further comment. If I dont see a refund within a week I'll escalate it to clickbank themselves.
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      • Profile picture of the author jonsjon
        Originally Posted by Bluewater View Post

        Same here I'm afraid.

        First payment was refunded back to my card within 2 days. I'd been expecting both payments to be refunded since it was a "100% no risk refund" promise. When I asked for my second payment to be refunded too, they closed the ticket with the word 'refunded' and no further comment. Waited 8 days no sign of the refund back to my card.

        Reopened the ticket and they closed it again in exactly the same way with no further comment. If I dont see a refund within a week I'll escalate it to clickbank themselves.
        I won't wait that long though. If I don't get a response in 2-3 days I will contact my creditcard company and request a chargeback. If Jeremy can blog every day he has the time to answer refund requests. Doesn't seem like we're the only ones affected.
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      • Profile picture of the author wcchyau
        Originally Posted by Bluewater View Post

        Same here I'm afraid.

        First payment was refunded back to my card within 2 days. I'd been expecting both payments to be refunded since it was a "100% no risk refund" promise. When I asked for my second payment to be refunded too, they closed the ticket with the word 'refunded' and no further comment. Waited 8 days no sign of the refund back to my card.

        Reopened the ticket and they closed it again in exactly the same way with no further comment. If I dont see a refund within a week I'll escalate it to clickbank themselves.
        Finally I got my money back, what I did is escalate it to clickbank and I think you should do it too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biltwell
    I had two questions about this system, maybe someone can answer:

    1. If I join now, are videos still handed out to me every 4 or so days, or do I have access to everything released so far?

    2. Is it $197 a month for a year, or forever?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Bluewater
      Originally Posted by Biltwell View Post

      I had two questions about this system, maybe someone can answer:

      1. If I join now, are videos still handed out to me every 4 or so days, or do I have access to everything released so far?

      2. Is it $197 a month for a year, or forever?

      Thanks!
      1. I'm not sure but I'd bet that you only get access to the core material and the rest will be drip fed through.

      2. It's per month for as long as you stay before you realise it's a waste of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike_pdx
    Hi folks, I recently joined the Shoemoney System. I am not that impressed.

    In the Training area there are only four videos. The titles are:

    - Books That Will Change Your Life
    - Get Your Mind Right
    - Ways to Make Money Online
    - The Rich Superhero

    I don't know what these videos are about, I'm pretty busy and don't want to watch a video about books I should read. I don't know what The Rich Superhero is, I may watch it later but probably not.

    This doesn't look like a Step-By-Step Training system. I'm looking through the site and can't figure out where the real training / system is.

    The podcasts look interesting, they are interviews with various experts, but the podcast titles don't really grab me, I don't see many that interest me. There are podcasts on Facebook Ads, twitter, FTC laws, creating a product, building links, etc...

    I was expecting something like Ed Dale's 30 Day Challenge, where there is an actual system to follow, with specific actions to take each day. So far I'm on day 6 of Shoemoney and the four videos in the training section don't seem that great.

    There are some webinar recordings available to watch but the titles don't say what content is in the webinars, so far the first one is a Q&A with pretty basic info.

    I'll write an update if I find any great content worth $200 a month.
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    Anyone have the free 12 week guide on internet marketing by ShoeMoney? If you do please send me a pm with an attachment!
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