SE Nuke vs. Brute Force SEO...what's your choice

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i'm in limbo on which of these "too good to be true" seo robot programs I should sign up with. it's no secret that many here are satisfied users of SE Nuke and it is less expensive than Brute Force SEO. however from the sales pages it seems that BruteForce may be a bit more powerful BUT there's not many Warriors on here that have vouched for BruteForce. Please chime in and let me know the major differences between the two and which is best for SEO. All entries will be highly appreciated so i can make a educated decision.
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  • Profile picture of the author zincOnline
    Only tried senuke, its ok I guess - too expensive IMO though. I don't bother with it any more I create all my links manually. Let me know if your looking for a complete solution to all your linkbuilding.
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  • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
    thanks zinc, i'll keep you in mind. but of course i'm interested in your offer. oh yea could you do me a favor and re-post on this next thread i'm about to post....it's the same question but i forgot to bold the title...ooops...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Michi Kono
    Hey OB1, I haven't used SEO nuke so I really cannot tell you which one is better... but I've been using BFS for a quite sometime now and I can tell you that I cannot live without it for all of my seo work. I've used a fair few seo tools in the past but BFS is far superior in my opinion.

    You may still need to spend sometime to learn the whole software and more importantly understand the concept and methodology behind it at first but once you get it all, I think you'll find it a fantastic tool to have. The bottom line, it does fully automate your seo work and get you great results. I know it's not cheap and it's a monthly membership but so far it hasn't let me down.

    Also they have a great support team, consistent software updates and great private forum where you can learn a ton.

    Hope this will help your decision making process...
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  • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
    Thanks Michi....one more question????..all the testimonials seem to refer to "local" search for their terms. and keywords. Does it work on the typical IM/niche keyword terms as well???
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    • Profile picture of the author Michi Kono
      Originally Posted by OB1_MoJo View Post

      Thanks Michi....one more question????..all the testimonials seem to refer to "local" search for their terms. and keywords. Does it work on the typical IM/niche keyword terms as well???
      Yes, it works well on global terms too and i've achieved that with a couple of my sites. But you know it would take longer to rank as the global terms are typically more competitive than local ones.

      BFS (Now EVO2) works beautifully most of the time and you can target pretty much at any niche but at the end of the day your SEO success all comes down to your initial keyword research.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    Neither..........for a few more minutes you can save all that money using roboform
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      Neither..........for a few more minutes you can save all that money using roboform
      Ooooo goodness! How i wish that were true!

      Ive tried both and personally prefer senuke over BFS!

      Why?

      Because of the constant updates, the lack of bugs, the ease of use and the lower price!

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      • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
        i was thinkn gthe same thing mark. i have roboform and love it but it's still nowhere near the speed of neither of these programs. i hear BF has retooled and has fixed many of the bugs from it's initial launch....you heard any reports?
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      • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
        just noticed....my confidence in both of these programs had grown due to the fact that every reply is from a war room member....been teeter tottering on joining the war room but now i'm sold.
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      • Profile picture of the author robofx
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        Originally Posted by Mark Blaze View Post

        constant updates
        The constant SENuke updates are actually annoying. "There is a new version of SENuke. Would you like to update? New version adds this, that these & those."

        LOL

        It really is annoying - but very very nice! I love SENuke.

        Tried BFS trial when it first came out. I think it's pretty powerful, and it's more automated than SENuke.

        But from what I could tell it doesn't give you quite the amount of fine-tuning control as SENuke does.

        I guess if it was a lot cheaper I'd consider it as a supplement to SENuke but definitely not as an alternative.
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    • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
      hey dex, is there any free trial offer that is available with web2 mayhem?
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  • Profile picture of the author tonyaphx
    I tired SENUKE, but I was kind of lost on what all I needed to do I was worried if I would get backlinks to fast and get in trouble with google so I only stayed for the free trial after I learn more I may give it another shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author stfu
    I've used both and I'm comfortable using SENuke at the moment. I might be biased as I'm used to the interface or SENuke but I did not feel so comfortable using Brute Force. I believe the SENuke program is updated very often ( every week) to fix the bugs soon and also new features and web 2.0 properties are added from time to time.

    The cost is high but I'm ok with it as I'm able to make much more than what I invest.
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    • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
      I have been trying out web2mayhem and Brute Force this week, I am going to start the senuke trial too and then choose which of the 3 I prefer.

      Out of W2M and Brute Force, my choice would be Brute Force. There is far more automation and being naturaly lazy sometimes this really suits me.

      One thing that annoyed me with W2M was the low success rate in account creation, bookmarking and videos submissions. With all the attempts using the software, then finishing some by hand, the reporting errors, then submitting support tickets, I was left feeling like I would have been quicker doing it by hand.

      Having said that, there are things in W2M that you won't get with Brute Force like the pad submitter, podcast tool, link exchange etc.

      My choice would still be Brute Force, I was able to set it up (about 10 minutes) and go and watch TV for 3 hours, then when I came back the whole thing was finished, from account creation to submissions. This would not have been possible with W2M because you have to be there to babysit it the whole time.
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    • Profile picture of the author timmywf
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      • Profile picture of the author cyber49
        Been using SE Nuke for months, and we're quite happy with it.

        BFSEO seems very slickly packaged, and looks tempting to try, but we've not pulled the trigger on the trial, since there seems to be few differences.

        I found this thread while looking for differences, but I'm not finding many specifics anywhere.

        The only one I know of is is that although you run desktop software, BFSO does all the submissions from their server (I read), whereas SENuke uses only your computer.

        Using SE Nuke, we've had to use proxies to prevent accessing multiple accounts on the same service from the same IP - (that's a red flag).

        Anyone know any other differences?

        IMO, it's how you use these tools that can get you banned, not using the tools themselves.

        Taking the time to put in good quality articles, do good kw research, use relevant and non-duplicated content, thoughtful deep links etc. there's no way that "this software" can get you banned - It's using SENuke or Evo (or anything) like an idiot that'll get you banned.

        Don't know big mike, but i'll have to check 'em out...
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Neither. SENuke is too expensive and I absolutely HATED the interface. BIG Mike's products all the way, plus manual for some things.
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    • Profile picture of the author article007
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Neither. SENuke is too expensive and I absolutely HATED the interface. BIG Mike's products all the way, plus manual for some things.
      I agree with you.Thanks for sharing !
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    Oh yea...Big Mike's products for a one time fee! And when he comes out with web2.0bot, we'll have all the semi automation tools for complete link building methods for a one time fee...
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I have been using Senuke from last few months, its pretty good tool and i am getting decent results.I never tried BFSEO, Big Mike tools are good too but less effective compared to SEnuke.
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    • Profile picture of the author extremelyvicious
      Who is Big Mike and where can I find his products?
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      • Profile picture of the author Food Guru
        Big Mike is Michalis "BIG Mike" Kotzakolios who along with Diego Hernando And John Rogers runs Incansoft.com. I use a few of his offerings and he's great, GFX Writer is my favourite, it is an easy way to create headers, ebook covers etc. You can find him on the WF if you type in his name
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  • Profile picture of the author clickwise
    Anybody that uses BFSEO is a tool, anybody that uses SEnuke knows the other tool.

    There's a WSO here by jaydee on how to use SEnuke, efficiently.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    I rejoined Brute sunday, did 2 runs yesterday. Started at 9am ish and it finished up after 1 am this morning with 5-6 sites already shutting everything down with a spam ID ed message. Yes it is less buggy and faster then me. But it is not a 10 minute set up if you use 10 of your own articles and using most of the account creation process is lonnnnng. Yes roboform may be longer to set up. But popping between sites is not much longer and it is 157.00 cheaper a month. When you add in using socialbot from big Mike, directory submitter from big Mike and Social Submitter from The same, on each link created it is ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author affhelper
    It amazes me that people still want to use some automated software to
    get high rankings. I thought that was a thing of the past.

    Nothing and I mean nothing works better than you building links from
    press releases, articles, and link baits!

    Plain and simple
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    • Profile picture of the author Kael41
      There is sooo much wrong with this statement that it amazes ME that you'd think otherwise Automated link building (article submissions, blog commenting, microblogging, etc) in conjunction with a targeted manual link building blitz is the correct answer.

      If you've never utilized, nor researched the effects of using these various tools over a long period of time for various projects, then I'm not sure you can qualify your statement that "nothing works better":

      xrumer
      senuke
      automatic article submitter/article post robot/whatever automated flavored program your choose
      brute force linking loophole/sick profile creator
      bruteforce seo 2
      bookmarking demon/bookmarkwiz
      etc,etc,etc...



      It amazes me that people still want to use some automated software to
      get high rankings. I thought that was a thing of the past.

      Nothing and I mean nothing works better than you building links from
      press releases, articles, and link baits!

      Plain and simple
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmytron
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Koltai
          I'm going to go with SEnuke here. IMO it wins out by a decent margin due to more frequent updates, less bugs, and more control for power users.

          That said, EVO II definitely has its place. I would recommend EVO II to people who:
          • Don't know how to structure their linkbuilding campaigns
          • Don't want or need the complexity of SEnuke
          • Are totally new to IM and have more money than time
          • Are using the software solely for backlinks and not for traffic funnels

          If you fit those criteria, you'd probably be better off with EVO II, at least until SEnuke X comes out. For now, SEnuke is for power users who want near-complete automation without giving up control of their linking campaigns.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jansi
            I used BFS since end of Sep.2008 to Feb 09, after that I changed to SeNuke.

            What can I say? I loved the softs, but...

            When U using this, be prepare to invest lot of money.(and its little bit sad if U not making any)
            Be prepare, that this is a short term strategy.

            Why?

            Just have a look on Link Liberation from Dan Thies. And i think that U will get the point.

            Another think is, that I like soft that I can customize to my needs, so I just stoped to waste money with monthly charges and both UBot Bot Studio.
            Now I`m able do my own applications and safe some money.
            Don`t get mi wrong, just I love to create my system with my tools.

            Even for outsourcing is better if I do my scripts for worker and they do not have to play with all others futures of programms like BFS or SeNuke.

            Other tools that I love and use are. Market Samurai, ScrapeBox, Keyword Sniper, IMacros and many many in house created UBot bots.

            Only my 2cc.

            Thanks
            Jan
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  • Profile picture of the author UnDenIeD
    This is an easy one. Wide range functionality, support and continuous improvements make Senuke the winner, hands down.
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  • Profile picture of the author OB1_MoJo
    thanks everybody. i got far more feedback than i expected
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  • Profile picture of the author simplyrahul
    Senuke is much better Brute Force has too many bugs
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