Video Cash Method by Ben Shaffer?

This is why this forum rocks. Great input! Clear information that helps other make good decisions. Thanks again.

Thanks much for the kind words. I've been helped quite a bit by the reviews in this forum - just happy to give back.



Boy, I hear that loud and clear!!


Regards,

Brett

Hi Ben,

I am considering your product, and would appreciate if you could give an unequivocal clarification here regarding Brett's two propositions, ie. that for your method to work:

>>1) Your site must ALREADY BE ON THE FIRST PAGE OF GOOGLE
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>>and
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>>2) There must already be a video displaying on the first page


I am almost over the line, but just need to hear the words from you: "This is a way to get your low-ranking site into the top 10" (which as Brett says the sales video seems to appeal to).

Thanks!
Pat

Ben, I can't tell you how dissappointed I am that you continue to attack my integrity after I went so far out of my way to say that I was ONLY attempting to post an honest review and that in NO WAY was it meant as a personal attack on you.

If you believed I was mistaken, the honorable thing to do would just be to demonstrate it by politely pointing out the actual facts of the matter and attempting to resolve my misunderstanding. As I said above, if you were to do that then I would readily admit my error and apologize for it. But instead, you chose to continue to level personal attacks at me and completely avoid getting to any actual details about the facts. (Almost as though you are hoping to discredit me personally in the hopes that people reading this thread will then ignore the facts in my post - I certainly hope that is not the case.)

Additionally, you should take note that I am not the only one who sees the situation this way, as shown by this quote posted by another purchaser of the product:

I would suggest you try seeing the sales video from your customers' point of view, and understand where the confusion/disappointment/dissatisfaction might be coming from, rather than to attack their integrity when they express it.


Now, for everyone else that may be reading this thread and considering a purchase of the product...

In the CONTEXT of my first post, everything stated there I believe to be substantively true and accurate. However, I will explain in better detail and clarity below, as it appears someone still needs to make the actual FACTS about this product clear (and the product owner doesn't appear to be taking the time to fully do so).

But first, let's clear up a bit of possible confusion. I have been doing professional SEO for clients for years and have a number of friends/associates who are highly knowledgeable and proficient in the field as well. I admit I do not know what percentage of people actually have their Google search settings to display 100 results per page, but I'm guessing it may be in the range of perhaps 2% of all searchers. (If anyone has any documentable data on this, I certainly welcome it.) The default is only 10 results per page, and the VAST majority of people use this setting. It is for this very reason that the norm in the SEO world when talking about search results is that "Top 10" and "First Page" are considered synonymous. Similarly, the "100th position", unless VERY OPENLY AND CLEARLY defined differently for a particular conversation, will be naturally understood to be on the 10th page of results (not the first).

So here is the exact quote from the product about the requirements for this method to work:

"There are two specific requirements that you must satisfy if this Piggyback Method technique is to be effective. These are as follows:

Be on the first page: Your site must feature on the first Google search results page already. So if someone has their search settings at 100 results, then even if you are at position 99, your video will show up on the top of the page right up there with the other videos.

There must be videos already: If there are no videos already being shown on the results page, there will be no 'OneBox' and therefore no videos. As the basic concept of this method is that your video can 'latch onto' videos that are already shown on the results page, it follows that if there are no videos, there is nothing to latch onto."


So, for those of you with lower-ranking sites who are looking for a way to finally break into the "Top 10" (as any normal person would understand that phrase, i.e., the first page of 10 results that ~98% of the world actually sees), this is NOT going to be an answer for you. If you buy it specifically for that purpose, then you WILL be dissappointed. (This is specifically the type of person to whom my original post was directed, and who I believe constitute the majority of people who will view the sales video.)

However, as I have stated in two different posts above, I believe this method CAN BE BENEFICIAL for some people. In fact, I can envsion that there are some people for whom this method could be easily worth MANY times the small fee Ben is charging for it. For example, 1) someone in a large dollar volume market where picking up even that extremely small percentage of users viewing sufficiently more than the normal 10 results per page makes a big difference, or 2) someone at the bottom of page 1 (that is, the "normal" page 1 with 10 results on it) who can get a bump to the top 5 and benefit from increased traffic that way.

So what's my recommendation? Simple: carefully read the "requirements" for this method listed above, then WATCH THE SALES VIDEO! If you believe that this method will be of benefit to your business, then BY ALL MEANS BUY IT! If you don't think it will help, then don't buy it. If you are still not sure, then I would recommend going ahead and trying it to see - you should have nothing to lose, as I've noted before that Ben's customer support was very good and I absolutely believe him when he says he will give you a prompt refund.

So that's the bottom line.


Ben, if we ever meet, I hope we can still be friends. I understand that you may have been upset with me for my post, but I think if you will review the sales video with fresh eyes and from the average customer's perspective, you will see how people could get the wrong impression and find it misleading. I would recommend just making the 2 requirements for the method clear in the video, then there should be no further problems or misunderstandings. Whatever you decide to do, I just hope that in the future you are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to people about their intentions, especially when they attempt to be so very clear that they have no malice toward you whatsoever. People on this board do not know me, but any of my friends or family will unequivocally tell you that I take my personal integrity VERY seriously. Regardless, I wish you the best of success in your endeavors and in life.


Sincerely,

Brett

Wow, this is truly unbelieveable.

I have gone WAY out of my way to let you know that I AM TRYING TO BE AS HONEST AND ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE, and that I HAVE NO ILL-WILL TOWARD YOU. (Heck, I'm even saying that I believe your method will be great for some people and recommending that they take a look at the sales page and BUY IT if they think they are one of those people!)

I have spent great deal of time and space carefully and specifically listing what I believe to be the actual facts about this product, and I've also actively invited a polite correction if I am wrong. Yet you only make the vague assertion that "This is not true for a start: ... and the salesvideo clearly shows this to be the case."

And you claim that this was an "extremely specific" response?? Seriously??

Look, I am absolutely NOT lying! For you to accuse me of doing so is irresponsible and is absolutely nothing more than an all-out personal attack. Lies are intentional untruths. What I have posted I completely believe to be true and accurate, and I have REPEATEDLY stated that I am willing to admit error and apologize if I'm shown to be wrong. Does this sound anything remotely like a person who feels "slighted" by you and is actively posting "blatant lies" about your product?? Not in the slightest.

If I have the facts wrong in any significant way, then please SPECIFICALLY correct them - not for me, but for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread and considering your product. Hopelessly vague statements like "the sales video clearly shows this to be the case" are not factual CORRECTIONS, they are nothing more than broad, unsubstantiated ASSERTIONS, and are virtually worthless in providing information for the reader.

Ben, apparently you have made the willful choice to view me as a deliberate and malicious liar, regardless of the truth. I don't know what else I can possibly say other than what I've already said to make it clear that this is absolutely the farthest thing from reality. So, I have little choice but to leave you with your belief and not say anything further on that matter. Although I am very saddened and actually somewhat hurt by the path you have chosen, I still harbor no ill-will toward you. And again (and still), I wish you the best of success.


Sincerely,

Brett

I've read this thread and I've watched the video and see that it would be easy for a potential buyer to assume the default settings of Google would be used by most Google searchers, therefore, certain criteria would have to apply before this method works. Granted, if that criteria is met, it would probably work as Ben states.

I really don't care for how evasive Ben is being about questions that are coming from multiple WarriorForum contributors. He seems bent on shutting down one review as a personal attack upon himself, and only seeming to demonstrate that he can't provide detailed responses to clarify confusion caused by his video.

If the video is causing the problems, re-create the video, and don't spend 10% on a high-level clarification and 90% on bashing another warrior. If you feel your detailed responses are sufficient for your intellect, consider speaking down to someone slow like me with a thick skull so that I understand the product you're offering. :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Brian