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hey everyone


I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
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    I'd be skeptical myself of mass produced cookie cutter sites making any real money. But hey, that's me .... skeptical.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaptainKirk
    Hey DonDada,

    Last time I heard someone called that was back-a-yard! Did a search & saw your post and wondered what you have found out since you posed the question.

    Adam was down in the Caribbean recently making the same pitch & while I am interested in signing up I would love to get some feedback.

    Would therefore love to know if you signed up for Speedlings & what are your thoughts so far.

    Many Thx,

    Kirk
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    • Profile picture of the author glassextreme
      Hi dondada1, I bought Speedlings in Jan and had built 300 sites so far.
      While it has not made its money back yet, yes I agree it's a huge investment, my adsense revenue has already increased 2-4 times per day after a month and a half.

      So far, search engines are sending me traffic, but I find my social networking accounts are also sending traffic to my sites. Even if google slaps it, there are other search engines. I cannot really comment on this because I wouldn't really know.

      I'm into PLR and I have always wanted hundreds of websites with PLR content to earn adsense and other ad incomes, but have run out of steam after setting up a few.

      But with this, I'm setting up hundreds of sites in a month.

      If you are keen, you can check out my blog at Speedlings Review. Bascially, I try to document my progress there.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Gregory
        Originally Posted by glassextreme View Post

        Hi dondada1, I bought Speedlings in Jan and had built 300 sites so far.
        While it has not made its money back yet, yes I agree it's a huge investment, my adsense revenue has already increased 2-4 times per day after a month and a half.

        So far, search engines are sending me traffic, but I find my social networking accounts are also sending traffic to my sites. Even if google slaps it, there are other search engines. I cannot really comment on this because I wouldn't really know.

        I'm into PLR and I have always wanted hundreds of websites with PLR content to earn adsense and other ad incomes, but have run out of steam after setting up a few.

        But with this, I'm setting up hundreds of sites in a month.

        If you are keen, you can check out my blog at Speedlings Review. Bascially, I try to document my progress there.
        I have been looking into this as well. A couple quick questions for you:

        1. Does it automatically create a twitter account for you and post to it or do you have to enter your twitter account info after you create the account?
        2. Do you enter the keyword list in you want to use or does it automatically aggregate a list of related and/or long tail keywords associated with your main keyword?
        3. Is there an admin area where you can ad/delete any content after it auto builds the site or are you pretty much stuck with what is built once it is completed?

        Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
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        • Profile picture of the author glassextreme
          Originally Posted by mainstreamad View Post

          I have been looking into this as well. A couple quick questions for you:

          1. Does it automatically create a twitter account for you and post to it or do you have to enter your twitter account info after you create the account?
          Hi mainstreamad, let me try to answer your questions for you.
          You have to create your own twitter account. If you want numerous twitter accounts for different niches, you will have to use different email address. Speedlings just gave us access to autotwitterfollow where it will follow people automatically and drop them if they don't follow you back. You will add your twitter account manually, and link to different websites you have created.
          2. Do you enter the keyword list in you want to use or does it automatically aggregate a list of related and/or long tail keywords associated with your main keyword?
          It will automatically come up with a list of related and/or long tail keywords. This feature is the reason why we have to pay more to buy domain credits from them.
          What I actually do is I will use my own keyword tools to get lots of different long tail keywords and then I'll build multiple sites on different related keywords and link them together.

          3. Is there an admin area where you can ad/delete any content after it auto builds the site or are you pretty much stuck with what is built once it is completed?
          I think they took away the delete function. I need to check that. But you can definitely add pages and blog posts. The pages can include auctions.
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      • Profile picture of the author carmack
        Glassextreme-
        I was following your progress in speedlings but now I can't find your blog. I know you moved it to Build auto websites but the site doesn't come up. Have you taken it offline?
        Thanks,
        carmack
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Mass-churned cookie cutter sites usually get stomped down sooner or later. I hope you make your money back before (and if) it happens, glassextreme.
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  • Profile picture of the author glassextreme
    Hi Dennis, when you talk about sites being stomped down, do you mean stomped down by google or other search engines? So far the traffic I get aren't just from google.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Ah, the Holy Grail of push button sites that you can set up in 1 minute and that run on auto-pilot earning you money while you sleep, etc. I've tried many such solutions with less than stellar results. I'm still a believer in automation, so I won't say it CAN'T be done. And I haven't tried Speedlings, so I won't say it won't work. I'll just offer these observations...

    $1000 for 10 sites that you don't own but have to pay every year for is relatively expensive. For that kind of money, you can buy proven sites with proven traffic and revenue that you actually own.

    ...Or buy other site building tools. For example, JP Schoeffel's Site Profit Bot recently sold for $67 (I think it is now $97) and with it you can build unlimited sites with push-button ease that will also earn you pennies a day on autopilot.

    There are lots of other site building and auto-blogging tools that work on the same model that are far less expensive and where you own the sites you build.

    Speedlings appears to take the turnkey concept to its limit. It seems everything is included, domain, hosting, keyword tools, etc. So even a trained monkey could do this.

    But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. And when there are millions of these auto generated sites floating around, do you still think you'll be able to make $1/day from them?

    For all it does, Speedlings seems like an impressive achievement, but $10,000 for an unlimited number of sites? It will take a lot of crappy sites to recover that.
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    • Profile picture of the author CaptainKirk
      Many Thanks for that insight.

      Interestingly enough I arrived at the same conclusion after my continued research.

      One of the difficulties I had was in identifying the value of what I'd be getting in return for the money I'd be paying and in the end I just couldn't justify the purchase.

      On top of this I kept having nightmares of Google changing its algorithm the day after I purchased...Ouch...

      Not the things that sweet dreams are made of

      So in the end I simply passed up on Speedlings

      Once again many Thanks for your insightful comments

      Kindest Rgds,

      Kirk
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Thanks...
    I was looking at the site they use as an example. I think these kinds of sites make great parking pages for unused domains because they are basically content aggregators for keywords.

    Too bad they are so expensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Gregory
    Thanks for the info. As for question 2, after the list of long tail kws is generated do you have to enter them each in one by one or are they automatically added. I ask because like you I would prefer to use my own keyword research as well. Not saying what they are using is good or bad because I really don't know, but I know I can trust my own research
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  • Profile picture of the author greff
    Software like that has been around for a few years. I've known people who tried it. The sites were dropped by Google in a short time.

    I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
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    • Profile picture of the author shaunwilliams
      Hi
      Anyone have a link to a recording of the recent speedlings webinar, that is if they recorded it of course.

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      • Profile picture of the author Seth Stewart
        I checked out the Speedlings sales page w/ Adam's 9-minute video, then moved forward to his purchase page. It is INCREDIBLY unclear, deceptively scammy in it's lack of clarity about what you get for what you pay. Do you just get the "rights" to 5 new Speedling websites every time you pay another $990 (except the first time when he "gives" you 5 more for free?) That would mean you have to spend $20,000 to put up 100 Speedling sites, enough to really make decent monthly IM income. Who the hell's gonna pay that!!?? If I'm wrong about the math here, sorry, but I'm just going off the pittance of information that's offered.

        There are no links on the page to FAQs or other pages that spell things out clearer, and no Contact links ANYWHERE so you could write Adam directly to ask these questions. And this thread is already 3 months old and guess who's never showed up on it to help clarify anything...wait for it...Adam!

        When Wordpress Mage was released, Greg Jacobs personally started responding on the Warrior forum the first day of its release, and has continued to post scores of times every month.

        I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself.
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            • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
              Originally Posted by BancOfWendy View Post

              This is my first time visiting these forums. ...
              ...
              Now while I have only been using the software since April, my results have been pretty much what Adam said I should expect by this point in time. I have built almost 100 sites so far and while many of them are not earning any money yet (Adam says not to expect to until about 90 days) many of them are. It's not huge money, but it's money. My most recent treasure is a website I built two weeks ago:

              youressentialoils.net

              It has earned a grand total of £2.04 so far. Now I'm sure you are reading this and wondering why is it so exciting to only earn so little money. Well, let's think about this for a moment. Adam says we should expect to have a base target of $1 US/day. so, if that's the case, my site has earned $3.00US in two weeks (14 days). That breaks down to about 21 cents a day. Am I going to buy a new caravan with that? No. But it is showing that this software does do as promised. Actually, in the case of this site, much moreso.

              Now, I will also say that some of my sites I built in April are only earning a little bit per day and some some of my sites are just now starting to get near the $1/day mark. As Adam says, this is not a get-rich-quick scheme. It is based upon a volume of websites earning small amounts of money. But since the sites are so easy to make, I'm finding that my results are right on with what they should be based upon what I was told in his presentation....

              I took a look at this site. It's not a bad looking site. Even though it is not ranked in the search engines yet, with the content it has and the way it is set up, I would expect it could get some organic traffic and earn some money.

              But it is a Wordpress blog, which is free software. And it uses a popular theme which you can get for free here: Snapshot | WooThemes And from what I can tell, it uses standard feeds and affiliate programs available to anyone for free.

              I am sorry to be the one to reveal that "the Emperor has no clothes on" , but with a little training, you could build these sites for free. As many as you want. And you would own them and be able to sell them for at least $50-$100 each. AND there are free or low cost tools to make them quick to set up.

              Now maybe Speedlings makes it so simple to set these sites up that instead of taking 15 minutes, it takes 1 minute. Is that worth something? Sure. But $6K?

              I go back to my previous statement that this product is targeted at newbies and opportunity seekers who would rather buy the dream than learn what's behind the curtain. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand what you're paying for.
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            Originally Posted by Speedlings View Post

            Seth - two things. First I'm not Greg James.
            Adam, its actually Greg Jacobs

            Thx.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    I have met Adam at various live events and conferences, and I have bought some of his information products related to eBay, which is what he built his reputation on. He is not a scammer, although it may seem that way from his pricing.

    I think he is catering to a different audience, and so I would be surprised if you found him on this forum. His target market is not the experienced IM-er who has enough experience and knowledge to put together these kinds of sites for much less. I would guess his target market is the opportunity seeker who wants a turnkey internet business without spending the time to learn the business.

    Adam clearly believes that as a business opportunity for the newbies, he has created an enticing value proposition, even at the high price level. But for anyone who knows anything about internet marketing, there are more economical ways to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seth Stewart
      It's not his pricing that makes his sales page seem scammy, it's his lack of full disclosure, his lack of even basic contact information (I mean seriously, before you just "plastic" this guy $1000, don't you think might want to ask a few questions!) and his lack of ANY type of partial or full refund offer. What happens if you send him a grand, then find out it's not what you thought it would be, or just isn't a good fit for you. Too bad, he's got your one large, and you haven't a leg to stand on.

      And regardless of gearing his product to a different, non-IM market, he could certainly make an appearance here to clear some things up on a thread about his IM launch that's been up for 3 months. I'm sure he knows Warrior and knows this thread is happening. He's probably avoiding answering 'cause he knows Speedlings won't stand up to the experienced scrutiny it will get here.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulwa
    hi

    i went to a social millionaire meeting today (ldn) and he presented, people rushed to the back of the room before he'd even finished to give their credit card info. (around 5- 6000$ for package unlimited sites but only 30 free then you have to register your own..wasnt clear to me how hosting works?

    He got a lady nurse up on stage who knew nothing about the web and created a site in 3 mins or less.

    this is the site here:

    mephisto-mens-shoes dot com

    so domain was bought and went live within 20 mins.

    looking at site in the blog section it uses the word mephisto and then delivers news about the greek economy so would put a visitor off ..but maybe its just bedding the keywords in..

    also he said they used geo targeting but when i look at it here in uk i am presented with lots of US ebay ads in dollars and amazon.com offers not amazon uk?

    as the site pinged all his social networks we could all see on screen within minutes earnings coming in from clickthroughs ...around 2- 3 dollars in 30 mins but of course he has big networks on his own account.

    I am attracted to this package and he was a cool blok (not that it matters!)

    anyone else tried it in last few weeks?


    pw
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    • Profile picture of the author goldmills
      Adam recently spoke at my Boost Seminar.

      His full 90 minute presentation is posted on my blog and he goes into great detail about what his system is, what it does for people and how you can use it to make money online.

      He had the audience completely into the presentation, as you'll see... it was quite popular.

      You can view the video on my blog at jeffmills dot com (sorry I cannot post a link), then do a search for speedlings in my search box.
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  • Profile picture of the author Llewelyn James
    Originally Posted by dondada1 View Post

    hey everyone


    I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
    Hi,

    Yes I saw Adam Ginsberg in London only last Sunday at the Gloucester Hotel and he was showing his speedlings software I must say initially I was impresses and was tempted. he built a site in a few minutes and before the 90 minutes presentation was over he had made $3-4 dollars from adsense income.

    However thinking about remember something he has a huge twitter following ad other social media lists which he will be using to generate that traffic in a very short time. Most of us don't and it will take time to do so. I also noticed the guarantee was only if you made any income at all and it would be very unlikely for that not to happen so even if you just made $4-5 it wouldn't apply
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    Originally Posted by dondada1 View Post

    hey everyone


    I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
    Hey dondada1,
    I was there yesterday, i was very impressed with the way Adam markets his products. The guy is so full of energy and funny. Really interacts with his audience.
    As For speedlings, initially i thought it was a good idea, and very impressive, but how long will it last.If Adam kept it to himself he could and does dominate Google.
    My verdict, impressive, expensive but no thanks.

    Pete
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  • Profile picture of the author Speedlings
    I'd like to thank everyone for all the great (and some not so informed) comments about Speedlings. As a long time member of the Warrior Forum I thought it would be good for me - as the owner of Speedlings - to share the most accurate information on the software.

    I'll do my best to answer all inquires fairly, although you would naturally expect that my opinion will be somewhat biased.

    Many of the comments have been said better than I could. Sarah Tan is an awesome example of someone who is making great use of Speedlings with both her commentary here, and on her blog.

    Some of the comments are made by people who have never even seen or experienced Speedlings but think that because it's a "website builder" it must be just like every other web builder previously created - which of course it's not.

    According to GDINTERMED, "But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. " To be clear, he's not a Speedlings Member, has never created a site, and doesn't understand Speedlings as these sites are not 'spammy'. In fact, the amount of time people spend on a niche site created by Speedlings is quite good. Obviously it depends on the niche.

    For lin: "How does one "collect" the money they make? weekly, monthly yearly,who sends the checks?

    It depends on the source from which you earn your revenue. Google pays you directly. Clickbank pays you directly. eBay pays you directly. There are certain exclusive income feeds that are built into Speedlings. They would be paid to you directly via PayPal from Speedlings.

    With respect can certainly choose not to use Speedlings, but he clearly doesn't know anything about it.

    Shaun, we run live webinars once or twice a week as opposed to making recorded webinars available. The software is updated with new features and functionality every few weeks. To watch a recorded webinar that is outdated (even from 30 days ago) wouldn't make much sense.

    This post really brought a smile to my face. According to Seth, "I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself. "

    I won't hold my breath and wait for an apology. If you go to Contact Adam Ginsberg - ContactAdamGinsberg.com you can see all our contact information is online. In fact, it's on every website I create. In fact, there's a toll free 888 # and support desk on all Speedlings order pages. Seth - you might want to be careful about calling someone a "scammer" unless you have accurate information to back up your claim.

    And Seth, seriously did you really write this: "He's probably avoiding answering 'cause he knows Speedlings won't stand up to the experienced scrutiny it will get here. " You clearly don't know anything about me if you think I'm afraid to deal with questions, why by the way are not too difficult to answer.

    Jeff Mills, thanks for your support buddy - you are a rockstar and I really appreciate you and what you've done for this industry. Keep up the great work!

    In terms of the income opportunity, let me clear something up so we're all on the same page. I have many social media accounts with more than 100,000 people in them, including various Twitter accounts, Facebook fan pages, etc. When I do a demo showing immediate income it is for example purposes only. ANYONE that has actually hear me speak live (either in person or in a webinar) has hear me say that Speedlings is not a get rich quick plan. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I'm very clear that it could take up to 90 days before a new student makes even $1 online. It could take a year for some nice income to flow. The fact is, it doesn't matter whether it's Speedlings or something else - it takes TIME to be successful. We live in a society where everything gets judged by immediate results, but that's not the way life works.

    And the guarantee we offer is stellar. Here's the way it works. Invest in Speedlings for $6k. Create an average of one site per day (30 per month). Heck, it takes less than 5 minutes. At the end of 12 months if you haven't made $6k, we give you back $12k (less what you've earned). This covers your initial investment and your investment in the domains for the first year. That's it. No gimmicks, no fine print. No hidden agenda.

    Msindependence - this is a Speedlings forum post. You didn't buy Speedlings, you don't have Speedlings. If you have any questions about your previous purchase you can contact us directly at AdamGinsbergSupport.com there's no "small print" - all the print is the same size

    Raziels - Thanks for your commentary - I really enjoyed reading that one. The only thing I would say is this... your income plan is a minimalistic one. Do that same math with 2,000+ sites like Sarah Tan has, 5,000+ sites or 10,000+ sites. Yes, it's possible to earn massive income with Speedlings... but making the minimum number of sites necessary to qualify for the guarantee won't do it. Thanks again...great stuff!

    So, there you go. My thoughts on what people have said on this forum about Speedlings.

    I will be more than happy to answer any questions about Speedlings that anyone has...the positive or the not so positive. My only request is that you keep separate your question/ comment about Speedlings and my personal character. Comments that state I'm a "scammer" is unacceptable and out of line. If you have a personal issue with me - call me or open a support ticket and I'll call you... it's too easy for people to hide anonymously behind their computer these days and make comments that are unacceptable.

    I look forward to actively responding to messages here on the Warrior Forum in regards to Speedlings. And to all our Speedlings members around the world, who have published more than 60,000 Speedlings sites in the last 100 days - thank you and keep up the great work!
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    Jesus CNS, you spent 20K, on basically what is auto blogging and you don't even own the Sites....Damn !!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author nRehman
    I dont understand why people are making their huge investment in so called "Speedlings", there are better and cheap ways to get more good results while keeping initial investment quite lower. In my view "Speedlings" is an ideal investment for those people who are in website development business, it also good to use these sites for auction or filping to get the results faster... do you think you are seeing your returns in reasonable time .. no, after purchasing it you must prepare your self just running and running on an endless road to spend nearly 2000s of your great months, you may also divide it with the numbers of websites to reduce your months or so. Mr Adam seems to be in a real hurry but he is not sparing any time for his colleagues. He should think about it and let others to try his invention on a retail bases on a quite reasonable rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author fjhomer
    Hi,

    Just wanted to say thanks to Adam for attending this site to answer all questions. Its great to be transparent.

    One thing I need to know is if there is a way out once a person has signed up for the system. I believe you allow 3 days only. Is there any other caviats?
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  • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
    I would like to mention this thing about "Footprints".

    If you use Adsense, you have a footprint.
    Does not matter what else you do,
    Google knows who you are and
    where your sites are.

    Take your Adsense Pub- ID
    and Google it. You will find
    ALL your Adsense sites
    listed. Now that's a
    big Footprint!

    Jim Furr ><>
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  • Profile picture of the author Zach
    My advice is to be very careful "investing" in this type of product!

    Ever heard of WarChestBuilder.com? Their site is still up but no content has been added. They offered a similar service which would build unlimited sites with the objective of making $.50 - $1.00 for only a one-time payment of $5,000! They had a real sneaky way of signing up people because they led you to believe that you had to "apply" for membership when in reality anyone with a credit card could join. On ya, there was also a $175/mo. membership for "support". Some people made some money with WCB but it was no surprise that Google caught on and everyone's income stream disappeared overnight. So the service set idle for months while they worked on a "fix". Of course, those who were beyond the 90 day guarantee period were screwed! They eventually decided to put the program on their own server (originally you put the program on your own servers) and now it's suppose to build WP sites.

    Again, be very careful before you "invest" in an automation program like this. I think the key question is, and always will be, why someone who has developed an auto-build software would sell it? After all, if the program worked as well a they claim, then why not build your own network of thousands of sites and keep all the profits for yourself! Who needs to sell a software program if you're making 6 figures every month???

    I remember when I was tempted to buy WCB (thank God I didn't) that someone here on the WF pointed out that you could buy profitable sites a flippa and elsewhere for much less than $5,000 and $175/mo. fees. I ended up doing just that. I bought several sites at flippa for much less than $5,000 and today everyone of them continues to put money in my "hip national bank" and it continues to grow every month. And, I don't have to worry about the big "G' coming along and wiping out my income stream overnight because these are all authority sites!

    Buyer beware folks!
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    • Profile picture of the author JanPat
      I've been using Speedlings for nearly a year.

      I'm not allowed to say bad things about Speedlings (by written agreement), so you'll just heard positive stuff and facts here.

      First, it costs $5000 to get started with Speedlings. You get 30 domain credits so... you need to invest more to keep you performance refund guarantee.

      The deal is you you need to create 30 more sites each month over a year. For the most part, you need to buy the domain credits through Speedlings at a minimum cost of $14 each (with their $5000 approx 330 domain package). That said, it's roughly $11,000 in to keep your 12 month performance guarantee.

      I'm up to hundreds of Speedling sites following the program. Some sites are pulling in revenue but in total it's less than $900 so far. Not quite recouped my costs after nearly a year, so I'm not in a position to recommend Speedlings yet. Still hopeful positive for the near future, since I'm in it deep with thousands on the line.

      I have to give it to Speedlings in that it can put up a site fast. I've checked out other autoblog stuff, and nothing compares... yet. The revenue channels (you can't get on your own like Shopping.com) is pretty nifty too.

      I do wonder about the footprint remark earlier. There are common signatures with Speedling sites (like shared themes and "Powered by Speedlings" on every page). Could this jeopardize all Speedlings sites in one search engine swoop? Last I heard, there are over 174,000 sites so this could be a huge footprint. Any feedback on this would be good.

      Besides this, I do wonder why Speedlings isn't more transparent. For example, why do they need an agreement that doesn't allow it's customers to share information to others who are considering plunking down thousands of dollars. What if there is something really bad that prospects should know before signing up? Like with anything else, caveat emptor -- along with this bit of info to consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    You have to wonder about any program that makes you agree in writing not to say anything bad about them! I can't imagine that would be enforeceable.
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    • Profile picture of the author SamWilsonLaw
      I know spellings members and advise one in particular. I'm not a member, so thankfully I can talk about what I know with candor.

      Before anything, always read any contract before you sign. If you don't understand something in the document, ask or seek professional advice (in no way does this post constitute legal advice).

      I looked over the Agreement, and the following should be taken into serious consideration:

      1) The Agreement appears to be in the favour of Adam Ginsberg International (aka AGI). AGI may change the terms of the agreement to their choosing with indirect notice. It's up to you to check for changes in their terms of service.
      2) Jan is right about the disclosure restriction. You can't speak poorly about them. I haven't seen any evidence of these boundaries being tested tested yet; however, I would not be surprised if AGI pre-empts with the threat of legal action first.
      3) AGI has the right -- in my loose interpretation -- to boot you from their service at their choosing.
      4) The Agreement forces arbitration before court claim proceedings: it doesn't appear you can immediately file suit against AGI in court, although this requirement could be challenged in my opinion -- especially if there are several claims to make for larger action.

      That said, buyer beware. Perform your due diligence, and I highly recommend this with speedlings.

      I agree there is limited transparency, and their practices are questionable in my opinion.

      For example, I was made aware AGI arbitrarily terminates sites with "trademark infringing" domain names. How they decide on the trademark infringement is not known, except the threshold appears to be low. If there's any hint of a trademark term in the domain name they shut it down, no questions asked. No refund.

      Meanwhile, AGI seems to demonstrate sites of their own which likely won't pass their own test. Taking Welcome to Tron Legacy Store for instance, the site was presented at a members-only webinar last month. For this matter, the site was presented as one which ranked in first place on Google.

      When examined closer, I also found Adam's claim seemed distorted. The sit Welcome to Tron Legacy Store targets the keywords "tron legacy store" which has less than 60 searches (according to Google's keyword tool) and 1,620 competing sites (with an exact match Google query). In the webinar, Adam Ginsberg ran a broad match search in Google which pulled up over 6 million results. A little bit of an exaggeration (implying what Speedlings can do with competitive markets) in my mind. Search "tron legacy" in google and you'll find it hard to see Welcome to Tron Legacy Store anywhere in the top few hundred results.

      As for AGI's $1 a day per site target, it's not known how many of the 100,000+ sites actually perform at this level 90%? 50%... 10%... 1%. If the percentage is obviously low, the $1 a day claim might not be reasonable.

      From what I gathered, there are other aspects of the service which seem fuzzy, like their keyword research tool algorithm and business model.

      In the webinars, Adam's asserted he doesn't make much money selling domains, which is probably true, but when the overall cost is looked at one must wonder where the money's going to. At the lowest price they (somewhat forcibly) sell domain credits to its members at $14 each, there would appear be at least a $5-6 delta from the wholesale cost of the domain. When you look at the WHOIS registration for Speedling acquired domains, they're all registered to a single entity likely also owned by AGI, which would lead one to deduce they're in the domain privacy proxy business too.

      At $5 a domain (for supposed domain proxy service) for just 100,000 sites, that's a half million dollar a year profit center for AGI. One has to wonder why AGI makes it somewhat troublesome (likely cost ineffective) for members to use their own domains with Speedlings.

      Looking at their keyword tool, one has to wonder how it arrives at the Speedlings "speed rating." The basic principle is to create sites with keywords with green or yellow "speed ratings" but when one looks closer, some green rated keyword search terms would probably be hard to rank, if not impossible within the 12 month guarantee period. Taking highly search terms like "Stop Forclosure" (e.g. Welcome to Adam Ginsberg Stops Foreclosure) the keyword tool would show a green rating, leading one to believe a Speedling sites could outrank more established high ranking sites.

      As a SEO person, certain keywords are so competitive it would take too much effort and time to go after, and many of the green rated terms would be useless in my opinion. My question would be why won't AGI explain how its keyword tool works exactly? What's also questionable are Adam's changes to his Speeding's approach with sites. At one time, he encouraged going after highly competitive keywords (in recorded webinars), but now he's slowly and subtly moving away from that. Personally, I'm not convinced he knows what he's doing from a SEO / traffic perspective.

      Speedlings has also had its fair bit of challenges with Twitter, which was what it largely relied on at one point. The Speedling tool automated Twitter posts, which largely amounted to Twitter spam, but hasn't worked for months (for whatever reason). I wouldn't be surprised if it's partly due to the fact Twitter doesn't like what Speedlings is doing.

      Another consideration is that members are at the mercy of Speedlings. If Speedlings shuts down or gets shut out for any reason (e.g. court or FTC action or broad stroke search engine ban), members are out of luck. You really have to put trust in Speedings before jumping in, or you're going in blind. Personally, the lack of transparency, risks and unanswered questions would make it hard to go along with them.

      There are other matters to consider, but for the time being, I suggest thinking carefully before handing over your hard earned money to them.

      Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author SamWilsonLaw
        I was asked in an email about what "forces" members to buy domains through Speedlings. Well, it's this: to use your own domains (i.e. registered through GoDaddy) you have to pay $10 to "transfer" it into Speedlings. This isn't automatic either. You need to open a support ticket to do it. Extra cost and a hassle if you ask me.

        Not only this. AGI (in its Agreement) will not count domains toward the minimum 30 sites per month performance guarantee -- if you did not buy through Speedlings. You must buy the domains through Speedlings to get the money back guarantee.

        You have to wonder why would they do this. What makes a domain you get elsewhere (for as low as $8 with privacy protection -- $6 less than Speedling's lowest price) less worthy in performance for it not to count.

        When you look at someone like Yano (the winner of the last Speedlings make-as-many-sites-as-you-can contest), he created over 2,000 web sites in Speedlings. At over $5,000 to buy 330 domains through Speedlings, that's more $30,000 - every year in domain costs on top of Speedlings renewal (probably $2000 annually in his case). Hope he did proper research for each of those site keywords to recoup his cost. Oh yeah. What did he win? Something like 600 more domain credits -- more domains to pay another $10,000 in renewals to Speedlings next year. Wow! $40,000 - $50,000 every year to stay out of the red. I'm really curious if it's paying off for him so far.

        For every Speedlings member, there is a yearly recurring cost for domains plus Speedlings renewal ($400 - $2000).

        The big question is how many Speedlings member make back their $11,000 cost (for Speedlings and domains) before their 12 month performance guarantee is over, when they need to pay out thousands renewals or call it quits?

        For $$$ "business" decisions like this. For the rah rah feel good cheer. We're dealing with real money that goes out, and real money that needs to come back in. These aren't casino chips we're playing with here. Show us the money! The Speedlings convention is this weekend, so it'll be interesting when some members share honest numbers with each other.

        On the SEO I mentioned earlier, Adam has been recorded on webinars saying something to the effect that "Google makes up only 16% of the searches on the web." I'd like to see where he's getting that number and how that relates to Speedling web sites. Maybe there's some missing detail with that number (like EBay auction and Facebook specific searches are counted too?). Google is THE game in my opinion - in SEM.

        So after this weekend kubaya convention, let's see what sort of revelations will come to the members who've spent over 10K, followed the Speedling instruction and program, and haven't made back their money as their year is almost up for renewal. How many of the hundreds of Speedlings member haven't made back their money yet? Give us real numbers.

        Sam

        p.s. I'll be at the Vegas convention with a member this weekend handing out business cards. Possibly more to report back here on this.
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        • Profile picture of the author SamWilsonLaw
          Here's what new now the Speedlings Vegas convention is over.

          More questions and potentially more questionable practices. But before I dive in, let me share with you that I didn't meet anyone at the convention who could honestly say they've made back the money they've put into Speedlings so far. Sure, Adam asked if anyone made more than $1,800 and a few people in the audience (out of the hundreds of attendees) got up (personally I think the better question would have been how many of you members have made back the ten grand you sunk into Speedlings?).

          Sure, most of the attendees were pumped with having Lou (the former Hulk) and other big name self-help speakers on stage, having a hypnotist make fools out a handful of volunteers, having a DJ blare pump it up music all weekend, and having Adam tell the group the best is to come. In my opinion though, it was just a big mask for what I would sum us as snake oil. Yes, you heard it right. I believe it's snake oil.

          If you listen to Adam's words carefully, you'll hear that he doesn't make promises. You'll hear things like "expect" or "goal" but you need to ask on what foundation are the expectations based on. Any two cent salesman can try selling based on expectations and not promises e.g. buy my fitness program and expect to be come an Olympics athlete. Yeah right... get smart and read the fine print.

          Now here's the new questionable stuff. Speedlings 2.0 (the new version of Speedlings) is out now. Adam says - out with the old and in with the new for 2011. Well, I believe we're still seeing the same old like poor software quality checking and forced spending on Speedlings. With the poor software quality checking it seems Adam has rolled out a bunch of defects, like past Speedlings releases. I'll leave it to another member to post the email Adam sent out a week after the convention explaining (and possible minimizing) the defects. Don't they quality check their software? It's been months since Speedling 2.0 was announced and surely it's been in development for much longer. What gives? I won't go into detail here about the Speedling 1.0 problems I've heard about... some of which which were supposed to be fixed in 2.0 but still aren't. All I'll say here is it's a pain in the butt long list in my mind.

          Now the interesting thing about Speedling 2.0 is the abandonment of autoblogging for article marketing. After 12 months what gives with huge shift? Wasn't the Speedlings 1.0 autoblogging working? Why are members passively forced to switch over to 2.0? And why is Speedlings 2.0 rating most of the Speedlings 1.0 sites as "dogs" in the new admin panel? Some important info seems to missing here.

          If you're a member, pay attention to the where the click throughs are going. Are the "Deal of the Day" ads taking all the traffic away from your other revenue channels like Adsense or Amazon links (besides the pages being too busy already). If DotDs are stealing the click throughs, have you wondered how you're going to tell if you're getting all the revenue? It's not like you own account (like Adsense, Clickbank or Amazon). How do you know Speedlings isn't taking a slice of the pie? Hmmmm...

          Another change that comes with Speedlings 2.0 are the new limitations around articles. In 1.0 you could write your own content or have someone else of your choosing write if for you (I say write because the post feature didn't work with cut and paste most of the time -- what was up with that too?). In 2.0 it appears you have to buy the articles Speedlings 2.0. It seems you can't manually add your own content. The Speedlings article prices are much higher than other placed and the promise is 200-300 words, with many articles ending up around 2000 words -- a rip off in my opinion. Imagine that. No autoblogging and the only way to add unique content to a site is to buy it through Speedlings at seemingly inflated prices. Hmmmm... another profit center for AGI (now known as Speedlings Media International - SMI)?

          There's still a lot more about Speedlings 2.0 you should know and be cautious about before handing over your cool cash. Despite the pump you up hype and hooray hoopla, I'm not impressed, and I would not recommend it at all today. Caveat emptor! I really hope this helps some unknowing Speedlings prospects.

          Sam
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          • Profile picture of the author SamWilsonLaw
            Here's an update on the client of mine who's a Speedlings member, because it's not status quo since my previous post.

            So far, he still hasn't even made back 2% of the money he's put into Speedlings. In fact, he's currently faced with thousands of dollars in unpaid and unmanageable debt, recurred annual Speedlings costs, and a divorce.

            All his Speedling sites under-perform. Nearly half of all his Speedling sites have been de-indexed from Google since upgrading to Speedlings 2.0. Even the couple sites that were ranked on Google's first page are nowhere to be found in the SERP. What little traffic there was has fallen more than 50% after the upgrade, and the roughly hundred dollars a month revenue from his Speedlings sites has virtually all dried up.

            What good are Speedling sites and the new flip strategy if Google rejects them, I ask? All of my client's hundreds of the sites under-perform, compared to the Speedling's revenue target.

            Today, Adam Ginsberg's touts flipping sites and domain names as the best way to make money with Speedling sites. He's telling customers to create Speedling sites to sell to others - and he's doing it in a big way with a seminar and all. It would seem like the MO is to build crap and then sell it to a greater fool. Is this indicative of the Speedlings business MO? I don't know of anyone who's made back their cash outlay on Speedlings with the previous strategy, and I doubt the new strategy will work either.

            If anyone's made back the $6,000 minimum outlay for Speedlings, I'd like to hear it. I have yet to meet anyone (who doesn't work for Speedlings) report that he / she's made back the Speedlings cash outlay.

            Interestingly, Adam Ginsberg encouraged members on a recent webinar to invest in Speedlings for the long run. He's likened it to holding onto stocks that have fallen in value: hold onto to falling stocks because they'll come back in the long run.

            As an experienced investor I disagree. The strategy I've followed from successful investor is to cut losses, and that's worked for me. I've lost thousands buying and holding onto falling stocks. If a stock's fallen enough in value, there's no way to tell if it'll come back - unless you can see the future e.g. who knew if falling Enron stocks would return to their glory. My client's also put some of his Speedling sites and not one has sold yet after months, so the evidence isn't promising. I doubt AGI / Ginsberg can reasonably substantiate their $1 a day a site revenue target, used in their sales pitch.

            That said, I believe there's a case for legal action against AGI and Adam Ginsberg personally as such -- if regulatory action doesn't get them first, in my opinion.

            By regulatory, I mean FTC action under unfair and deceptive trade practice rules... specifically around the way AGI / Ginsberg changes agreement terms at will - with limited notice (you have to regularly read the T&S to learn about the changes) and no expressed agreement. As a Speedlings consumer, your choices to reject the agreement term changes are limited: you'd have to walk away from all the money you put out because AGI / Ginsberg would probably argue their 12 month performance guarantee hadn't been met... contract by duress perhaps? I suspect the way AGI / Ginsberg changes performance guarantee will likely spawn several FTC complaints.

            If you're having problems with the Speedlings money back performance guarantee, I recommend that you ask your lawyer whether the way AGI / Ginsberg changes its terms is a mutual agreement - or if it's an unfair practice.

            In a nutshell, I strongly recommend staying far away from Speedlings since I'm not convinced it's smart use of your hard earned money.
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            • Profile picture of the author GBMarkham
              The following is being posted for an unfortunate Speedlings member and a friend so as to protect their anonymity.

              I bought into Speedlings and boy am I sorry. It was hyped from the start. I sat in a room with about 500 people and watched Adam build a site in under 5 mins and he showed us live how he was generating a few pennies in about 15 mins of the launch. I never experienced this and suspect that he may have had some people clicking behind the scenes to generate results which, of course, would be really deceptive. Desiring a simple web building program I jumped at it and followed the recommended Speed ratings and was told that after 3 mos, I should see about $1 per day per site. I built over 400 sites quickly, which, in turn, disqualified me from his performance guarantee.

              After almost 10 mos at this I barely made $100 from my $12000 investment. If I wish to keep the domains and rebuild them on my own, Speedlings charges $30 to transfer a domain I paid $16??? Speedlings is keeping my domains hostage.

              Another thing that I noticed is that there are no member forums. It's as if Speedlings is keeping its members from talking. I have a feeling that there may be more displeased people out there but we have no way to communicate.

              This has been pure rubbish and if you attend a presentation and are considering this, run as quickly as you can. This was a horrible investment and I think that the BBB and the district attorney should look into their selling practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author JanPat
    After giving it over a year, and reaching my financial breaking point, I'm starting to agree with Sam. I'm beginning to doubt Speedlings will ever pay off. I tried to stay positive, but I'm feeling more scammed and desperate than ever. I put in over ten thousand dollars and before I even got back 10% I'm hit with paying five plus thousands more for domain and mandatory privacy protection renewals (which Speedings is supposedly making money on).

    I was sold on the Speedlings "goal" pitch of a dollar a day per site. When I did the math, that was suppose to be $360 per day, or roughy $10,000 per month (with the 360 sites required to maintain the Speedlings money back guarantee). Hey, a hundred and twenty thousand a year from Speedlings sites sounded good to me by that projection last year. Instead, after a whole year, I made less than $2 per day from all my hundreds of Speedling sites combined -- or less than $1,000 total. I did everything by the Speedlings book and now it sucks to be me to have bought into the "goal."

    With Speedlings changing its terms without my explicit agreement so many times, I consulted my lawyer before asking for a refund and I was told I'd get screwed by the way they've set this up… so I'm putting more money in until there's some slim chance I'll make my money back or I go under financially first (I also have a house that's not worth the price anymore, so I'm just screwed any way I look at it).

    I don't know... it seems like everything's changing all the time like musical chairs with Speedlings. Every time I work on something (like spending hours and days creating dozens of twitter accounts) as directed, it gets wiped out for something because the old stuff doesn't work as well as the new stuff. And the explanation I get is the Internet changes all the time.

    I'm not happy that I was sold on an idea that never worked for me, and now Speedlings is off to chase a new strategy. Worse, what partially worked last year seems to have falling off a cliff. Over half my sites disappeared from Google after the Speedlings 2.0 upgrade and my revenue have dropped 90% since. According to an IM SEO expert friend, he thinks the Speedlings sites and strategy wouldn't have worked or been sustainable to start with. I wish I talk to him a year ago before getting in what I now think is a scam.The old Speedling article marketing game with duplicate content, Twitter spam, and strategy to hit highly competitive markets was an apparent recipe for disaster that would not have paid off anyway.

    Today's Speedlings strategy of flipping domains might not pay off either. I'm also wondering how many of the Speedlings members on the so called success stories site have made back their money. It's all fine to put up incentive driven (yes, like get free domain credits, ipads or ipods, etc.) feel good testimonies.

    To hear others in the similar situation as mine, I'm feeling even less encouraged with Speedlings. Marital breakdown, bankruptcy, desperation, are real life situations that shouldn't be caused by something like Speedlings… that seems like that's the reality after giving some time.

    Sorry if I seem messed up with words right now. I'm just saying how I feel it is, and it don't feel good. I just hope not many others are going or will go through this with Speedlings.

    Jan
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
      Jan,

      If I were you I'd walk away ASAP from speedlings and not spend another minute of effort trying to get profit from those sites. It's a failing business model. I know is not sustainable for a fact because there is no value being created by you from these sites, so there is no wealth to be made.

      Even if you can't get a refund from this (which I can't believe they won't grant you...) please don't throw good time after bad money.

      Instead - start all over from scratch. But this time focus on developing skills that will create VALUE, which people would happily trade money for. That's the only truly sustainable business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Jason is absolutely right. In a world where software can instantly create unlimited websites with scraped content from other sites, the key question is where is the value?

    In the case of Speedlings, it was apparent early on (see earlier posts in this thread), that the sites being generated offed NO value to visitors, and the value proposition was the hope and dreams of passive wealth that were sold to investors. In other words, it was a sophisticated con.

    I know it is hard to admit that you've been conned, and hope dies hard. But it makes about as much sense to spend more money on Speedlings as it would to invest more cash with Bernie Madoff.

    Chalk it up as an expensive learning experience and next time focus on what value is being created for others, because that will be a good indicator of how much profit you can earn.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    I saw him speak at a Seminar in London at the start of the year and boy he was slick.

    ...He even asked to turn off the cameras for a minute just so he could call the last speaker a scammer! To me, at the time, really helped to build trust and gave the feeling of "I'm on your side".

    I even met a guy who was raving about Speedlings system and he paid $5000 or $6000... Can't remember. I asked him if he made any money yet and he said "No, it takes 5 months start making money with the Speedlings system"

    Kinda feel sorry for him now because he was spending a ton of the domains etc.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author DougDavidson
    Speedlings was reportedly shut down earlier this year.

    Adam Ginsberg is apparently working on new software called "Instant Store Builder" (Instant Store Builder) to replace Speedlings.

    So what happened to the old Speedlings sites members sank time, effort and money into?
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