Speedlings?

I'd be skeptical myself of mass produced cookie cutter sites making any real money. But hey, that's me .... skeptical.

Hey DonDada,

Last time I heard someone called that was back-a-yard! Did a search & saw your post and wondered what you have found out since you posed the question.

Adam was down in the Caribbean recently making the same pitch & while I am interested in signing up I would love to get some feedback.

Would therefore love to know if you signed up for Speedlings & what are your thoughts so far.

Many Thx,

Kirk

Mass-churned cookie cutter sites usually get stomped down sooner or later. I hope you make your money back before (and if) it happens, glassextreme.

Hi Dennis, when you talk about sites being stomped down, do you mean stomped down by google or other search engines? So far the traffic I get aren't just from google.

Ah, the Holy Grail of push button sites that you can set up in 1 minute and that run on auto-pilot earning you money while you sleep, etc. I've tried many such solutions with less than stellar results. I'm still a believer in automation, so I won't say it CAN'T be done. And I haven't tried Speedlings, so I won't say it won't work. I'll just offer these observations...

$1000 for 10 sites that you don't own but have to pay every year for is relatively expensive. For that kind of money, you can buy proven sites with proven traffic and revenue that you actually own.

...Or buy other site building tools. For example, JP Schoeffel's Site Profit Bot recently sold for $67 (I think it is now $97) and with it you can build unlimited sites with push-button ease that will also earn you pennies a day on autopilot.

There are lots of other site building and auto-blogging tools that work on the same model that are far less expensive and where you own the sites you build.

Speedlings appears to take the turnkey concept to its limit. It seems everything is included, domain, hosting, keyword tools, etc. So even a trained monkey could do this.

But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. And when there are millions of these auto generated sites floating around, do you still think you'll be able to make $1/day from them?

For all it does, Speedlings seems like an impressive achievement, but $10,000 for an unlimited number of sites? It will take a lot of crappy sites to recover that.

Thanks...
I was looking at the site they use as an example. I think these kinds of sites make great parking pages for unused domains because they are basically content aggregators for keywords.

Too bad they are so expensive.

Thanks for the info. As for question 2, after the list of long tail kws is generated do you have to enter them each in one by one or are they automatically added. I ask because like you I would prefer to use my own keyword research as well. Not saying what they are using is good or bad because I really don't know, but I know I can trust my own research

Software like that has been around for a few years. I've known people who tried it. The sites were dropped by Google in a short time.

I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I have met Adam at various live events and conferences, and I have bought some of his information products related to eBay, which is what he built his reputation on. He is not a scammer, although it may seem that way from his pricing.

I think he is catering to a different audience, and so I would be surprised if you found him on this forum. His target market is not the experienced IM-er who has enough experience and knowledge to put together these kinds of sites for much less. I would guess his target market is the opportunity seeker who wants a turnkey internet business without spending the time to learn the business.

Adam clearly believes that as a business opportunity for the newbies, he has created an enticing value proposition, even at the high price level. But for anyone who knows anything about internet marketing, there are more economical ways to make money.

hi

i went to a social millionaire meeting today (ldn) and he presented, people rushed to the back of the room before he'd even finished to give their credit card info. (around 5- 6000$ for package unlimited sites but only 30 free then you have to register your own..wasnt clear to me how hosting works?

He got a lady nurse up on stage who knew nothing about the web and created a site in 3 mins or less.

this is the site here:

mephisto-mens-shoes dot com

so domain was bought and went live within 20 mins.

looking at site in the blog section it uses the word mephisto and then delivers news about the greek economy so would put a visitor off ..but maybe its just bedding the keywords in..

also he said they used geo targeting but when i look at it here in uk i am presented with lots of US ebay ads in dollars and amazon.com offers not amazon uk?

as the site pinged all his social networks we could all see on screen within minutes earnings coming in from clickthroughs ...around 2- 3 dollars in 30 mins but of course he has big networks on his own account.

I am attracted to this package and he was a cool blok (not that it matters!)

anyone else tried it in last few weeks?


pw

Hi,

Yes I saw Adam Ginsberg in London only last Sunday at the Gloucester Hotel and he was showing his speedlings software I must say initially I was impresses and was tempted. he built a site in a few minutes and before the 90 minutes presentation was over he had made $3-4 dollars from adsense income.

However thinking about remember something he has a huge twitter following ad other social media lists which he will be using to generate that traffic in a very short time. Most of us don't and it will take time to do so. I also noticed the guarantee was only if you made any income at all and it would be very unlikely for that not to happen so even if you just made $4-5 it wouldn't apply

Hey dondada1,
I was there yesterday, i was very impressed with the way Adam markets his products. The guy is so full of energy and funny. Really interacts with his audience.
As For speedlings, initially i thought it was a good idea, and very impressive, but how long will it last.If Adam kept it to himself he could and does dominate Google.
My verdict, impressive, expensive but no thanks.

Pete

I'd like to thank everyone for all the great (and some not so informed) comments about Speedlings. As a long time member of the Warrior Forum I thought it would be good for me - as the owner of Speedlings - to share the most accurate information on the software.

I'll do my best to answer all inquires fairly, although you would naturally expect that my opinion will be somewhat biased.

Many of the comments have been said better than I could. Sarah Tan is an awesome example of someone who is making great use of Speedlings with both her commentary here, and on her blog.

Some of the comments are made by people who have never even seen or experienced Speedlings but think that because it's a "website builder" it must be just like every other web builder previously created - which of course it's not.

According to GDINTERMED, "But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. " To be clear, he's not a Speedlings Member, has never created a site, and doesn't understand Speedlings as these sites are not 'spammy'. In fact, the amount of time people spend on a niche site created by Speedlings is quite good. Obviously it depends on the niche.

For lin: "How does one "collect" the money they make? weekly, monthly yearly,who sends the checks?

It depends on the source from which you earn your revenue. Google pays you directly. Clickbank pays you directly. eBay pays you directly. There are certain exclusive income feeds that are built into Speedlings. They would be paid to you directly via PayPal from Speedlings.

With respect can certainly choose not to use Speedlings, but he clearly doesn't know anything about it.

Shaun, we run live webinars once or twice a week as opposed to making recorded webinars available. The software is updated with new features and functionality every few weeks. To watch a recorded webinar that is outdated (even from 30 days ago) wouldn't make much sense.

This post really brought a smile to my face. According to Seth, "I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself. "

I won't hold my breath and wait for an apology. If you go to Contact Adam Ginsberg - ContactAdamGinsberg.com you can see all our contact information is online. In fact, it's on every website I create. In fact, there's a toll free 888 # and support desk on all Speedlings order pages. Seth - you might want to be careful about calling someone a "scammer" unless you have accurate information to back up your claim.

And Seth, seriously did you really write this: "He's probably avoiding answering 'cause he knows Speedlings won't stand up to the experienced scrutiny it will get here. " You clearly don't know anything about me if you think I'm afraid to deal with questions, why by the way are not too difficult to answer.

Jeff Mills, thanks for your support buddy - you are a rockstar and I really appreciate you and what you've done for this industry. Keep up the great work!

In terms of the income opportunity, let me clear something up so we're all on the same page. I have many social media accounts with more than 100,000 people in them, including various Twitter accounts, Facebook fan pages, etc. When I do a demo showing immediate income it is for example purposes only. ANYONE that has actually hear me speak live (either in person or in a webinar) has hear me say that Speedlings is not a get rich quick plan. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I'm very clear that it could take up to 90 days before a new student makes even $1 online. It could take a year for some nice income to flow. The fact is, it doesn't matter whether it's Speedlings or something else - it takes TIME to be successful. We live in a society where everything gets judged by immediate results, but that's not the way life works.

And the guarantee we offer is stellar. Here's the way it works. Invest in Speedlings for $6k. Create an average of one site per day (30 per month). Heck, it takes less than 5 minutes. At the end of 12 months if you haven't made $6k, we give you back $12k (less what you've earned). This covers your initial investment and your investment in the domains for the first year. That's it. No gimmicks, no fine print. No hidden agenda.

Msindependence - this is a Speedlings forum post. You didn't buy Speedlings, you don't have Speedlings. If you have any questions about your previous purchase you can contact us directly at AdamGinsbergSupport.com there's no "small print" - all the print is the same size

Raziels - Thanks for your commentary - I really enjoyed reading that one. The only thing I would say is this... your income plan is a minimalistic one. Do that same math with 2,000+ sites like Sarah Tan has, 5,000+ sites or 10,000+ sites. Yes, it's possible to earn massive income with Speedlings... but making the minimum number of sites necessary to qualify for the guarantee won't do it. Thanks again...great stuff!

So, there you go. My thoughts on what people have said on this forum about Speedlings.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions about Speedlings that anyone has...the positive or the not so positive. My only request is that you keep separate your question/ comment about Speedlings and my personal character. Comments that state I'm a "scammer" is unacceptable and out of line. If you have a personal issue with me - call me or open a support ticket and I'll call you... it's too easy for people to hide anonymously behind their computer these days and make comments that are unacceptable.

I look forward to actively responding to messages here on the Warrior Forum in regards to Speedlings. And to all our Speedlings members around the world, who have published more than 60,000 Speedlings sites in the last 100 days - thank you and keep up the great work!

Jesus CNS, you spent 20K, on basically what is auto blogging and you don't even own the Sites....Damn !!!!

I dont understand why people are making their huge investment in so called "Speedlings", there are better and cheap ways to get more good results while keeping initial investment quite lower. In my view "Speedlings" is an ideal investment for those people who are in website development business, it also good to use these sites for auction or filping to get the results faster... do you think you are seeing your returns in reasonable time .. no, after purchasing it you must prepare your self just running and running on an endless road to spend nearly 2000s of your great months, you may also divide it with the numbers of websites to reduce your months or so. Mr Adam seems to be in a real hurry but he is not sparing any time for his colleagues. He should think about it and let others to try his invention on a retail bases on a quite reasonable rate.

Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks to Adam for attending this site to answer all questions. Its great to be transparent.

One thing I need to know is if there is a way out once a person has signed up for the system. I believe you allow 3 days only. Is there any other caviats?

I would like to mention this thing about "Footprints".

If you use Adsense, you have a footprint.
Does not matter what else you do,
Google knows who you are and
where your sites are.

Take your Adsense Pub- ID
and Google it. You will find
ALL your Adsense sites
listed. Now that's a
big Footprint!

Jim Furr ><>

My advice is to be very careful "investing" in this type of product!

Ever heard of WarChestBuilder.com? Their site is still up but no content has been added. They offered a similar service which would build unlimited sites with the objective of making $.50 - $1.00 for only a one-time payment of $5,000! They had a real sneaky way of signing up people because they led you to believe that you had to "apply" for membership when in reality anyone with a credit card could join. On ya, there was also a $175/mo. membership for "support". Some people made some money with WCB but it was no surprise that Google caught on and everyone's income stream disappeared overnight. So the service set idle for months while they worked on a "fix". Of course, those who were beyond the 90 day guarantee period were screwed! They eventually decided to put the program on their own server (originally you put the program on your own servers) and now it's suppose to build WP sites.

Again, be very careful before you "invest" in an automation program like this. I think the key question is, and always will be, why someone who has developed an auto-build software would sell it? After all, if the program worked as well a they claim, then why not build your own network of thousands of sites and keep all the profits for yourself! Who needs to sell a software program if you're making 6 figures every month???

I remember when I was tempted to buy WCB (thank God I didn't) that someone here on the WF pointed out that you could buy profitable sites a flippa and elsewhere for much less than $5,000 and $175/mo. fees. I ended up doing just that. I bought several sites at flippa for much less than $5,000 and today everyone of them continues to put money in my "hip national bank" and it continues to grow every month. And, I don't have to worry about the big "G' coming along and wiping out my income stream overnight because these are all authority sites!

Buyer beware folks!

You have to wonder about any program that makes you agree in writing not to say anything bad about them! I can't imagine that would be enforeceable.

After giving it over a year, and reaching my financial breaking point, I'm starting to agree with Sam. I'm beginning to doubt Speedlings will ever pay off. I tried to stay positive, but I'm feeling more scammed and desperate than ever. I put in over ten thousand dollars and before I even got back 10% I'm hit with paying five plus thousands more for domain and mandatory privacy protection renewals (which Speedings is supposedly making money on).

I was sold on the Speedlings "goal" pitch of a dollar a day per site. When I did the math, that was suppose to be $360 per day, or roughy $10,000 per month (with the 360 sites required to maintain the Speedlings money back guarantee). Hey, a hundred and twenty thousand a year from Speedlings sites sounded good to me by that projection last year. Instead, after a whole year, I made less than $2 per day from all my hundreds of Speedling sites combined -- or less than $1,000 total. I did everything by the Speedlings book and now it sucks to be me to have bought into the "goal."

With Speedlings changing its terms without my explicit agreement so many times, I consulted my lawyer before asking for a refund and I was told I'd get screwed by the way they've set this up… so I'm putting more money in until there's some slim chance I'll make my money back or I go under financially first (I also have a house that's not worth the price anymore, so I'm just screwed any way I look at it).

I don't know... it seems like everything's changing all the time like musical chairs with Speedlings. Every time I work on something (like spending hours and days creating dozens of twitter accounts) as directed, it gets wiped out for something because the old stuff doesn't work as well as the new stuff. And the explanation I get is the Internet changes all the time.

I'm not happy that I was sold on an idea that never worked for me, and now Speedlings is off to chase a new strategy. Worse, what partially worked last year seems to have falling off a cliff. Over half my sites disappeared from Google after the Speedlings 2.0 upgrade and my revenue have dropped 90% since. According to an IM SEO expert friend, he thinks the Speedlings sites and strategy wouldn't have worked or been sustainable to start with. I wish I talk to him a year ago before getting in what I now think is a scam.The old Speedling article marketing game with duplicate content, Twitter spam, and strategy to hit highly competitive markets was an apparent recipe for disaster that would not have paid off anyway.

Today's Speedlings strategy of flipping domains might not pay off either. I'm also wondering how many of the Speedlings members on the so called success stories site have made back their money. It's all fine to put up incentive driven (yes, like get free domain credits, ipads or ipods, etc.) feel good testimonies.

To hear others in the similar situation as mine, I'm feeling even less encouraged with Speedlings. Marital breakdown, bankruptcy, desperation, are real life situations that shouldn't be caused by something like Speedlings… that seems like that's the reality after giving some time.

Sorry if I seem messed up with words right now. I'm just saying how I feel it is, and it don't feel good. I just hope not many others are going or will go through this with Speedlings.

Jan

Jason is absolutely right. In a world where software can instantly create unlimited websites with scraped content from other sites, the key question is where is the value?

In the case of Speedlings, it was apparent early on (see earlier posts in this thread), that the sites being generated offed NO value to visitors, and the value proposition was the hope and dreams of passive wealth that were sold to investors. In other words, it was a sophisticated con.

I know it is hard to admit that you've been conned, and hope dies hard. But it makes about as much sense to spend more money on Speedlings as it would to invest more cash with Bernie Madoff.

Chalk it up as an expensive learning experience and next time focus on what value is being created for others, because that will be a good indicator of how much profit you can earn.

I saw him speak at a Seminar in London at the start of the year and boy he was slick.

...He even asked to turn off the cameras for a minute just so he could call the last speaker a scammer! To me, at the time, really helped to build trust and gave the feeling of "I'm on your side".

I even met a guy who was raving about Speedlings system and he paid $5000 or $6000... Can't remember. I asked him if he made any money yet and he said "No, it takes 5 months start making money with the Speedlings system"

Kinda feel sorry for him now because he was spending a ton of the domains etc.

James Scholes

Speedlings was reportedly shut down earlier this year.

Adam Ginsberg is apparently working on new software called "Instant Store Builder" (Instant Store Builder) to replace Speedlings.

So what happened to the old Speedlings sites members sank time, effort and money into?