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16 years ago

I took a look at this today. I installed the Deep Link Engine and thought it was pretty useless. I have used ping backs for link building before, and they are not that great.

The part I am interested in is the autocontent. I wonder is this just another plugin like WP-O-Matic, which drags in content from various RSS Feeds. If their twist on this is buying domains that haven't been renewed, install plugins, drag in content and wait for adsense, its not as easy as it sounds.

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

I think he hinted at the fact that it would not be less than $497. I could be wrong.

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davemiz

16 years ago

so the plugin he gives you after the optin is crap?

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niceweb

16 years ago

Sounds like his former Google Conquest rebranded

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Charles Harper 16 years ago

Originally Posted by niceweb

Sounds like his former Google Conquest rebranded

What was Google Conquest about?

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

The deep link plugin is not the issue, it is the system he is selling.

Chad Kimball has a good program.

There is another dude that has a $20 program.

$77 is the sweet spot for me; maybe $97, but I know Alex; he is going to hit you with upsells, downsells and everything else.

We will see at noon.

On the flipside, it is not going to sell out and there are some good programs on the WSO Board. If This program is the next Google Sniper, there will be plenty of time to get it. Warriors will let you know what the deal is. On the flip side, if somebody is really making money they are not going to be on this forum talking about the product. The only folks who will be will be those who had a bad experience.

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niceweb

16 years ago

It was pretty much about making small blogs, using other peoples content (it used a re-branded FirePow to pull content) and edit them a bit to make them look unique.

FirePow was kinda nice, but the 3way linking system included did not work at all the 2 months i was a member. Also had major billing problems , i was charged 200 bucks months after i canceled my membership. I hope he got it sorted this time around.

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

Originally Posted by niceweb

It was pretty much about making small blogs, using other peoples content (it used a re-branded FirePow to pull content) and edit them a bit to make them look unique.

FirePow was kinda nice, but the 3way linking system included did not work at all the 2 months i was a member. Also had major billing problems , i was charged 200 bucks months after i canceled my membership. I hope he got it sorted this time around.

Do you mean other people's blog content or like news feeds,etc?

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

$77...but if it is Google Conquest rehashed..I don't know.

The one guy Brian Johnson though is supposed to be a solid guy.

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Sylonious

16 years ago

I bought the SEO upsell not realizing that they will release it over 8-weeks instead of giving me a pdf or videos immediately. On top of that, the first week doesn't start until March 23rd.

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magentawave

16 years ago

It would be great to hear back from you if their upsell is worth it or not please. I think I have most of the pieces of the "semi-auto blog" puzzle put together except I need to learn more about buying expired domains.

I'm wondering if their method is a slowed down not-on-crack version of WP Mage?

Steve

Originally Posted by Sylonious

I bought the SEO upsell not realizing that they will release it over 8-weeks instead of giving me a pdf or videos immediately. On top of that, the first week doesn't start until March 23rd.

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Charles Harper

16 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

It would be great to hear back from you if their upsell is worth it or not please. I think I have most of the pieces of the "semi-auto blog" puzzle put together except I need to learn more about buying expired domains.

I'm wondering if their method is a slowed down not-on-crack version of WP Mage?

Steve

Dude, I know you did this already, but there are some nuggets in here...

http://www.warriorforum.com/search.p...fvsa16lKxdbEzk

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magentawave 16 years ago

Actually I did a Google search but hadn't gotten around to doing a warrior search yet for that...so thanks!

Steve

Originally Posted by Charles Harper

Dude, I know you did this already, but there are some nuggets in here...

http://www.warriorforum.com/search.p...fvsa16lKxdbEzk

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Sylonious

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylonious

I bought the SEO upsell not realizing that they will release it over 8-weeks instead of giving me a pdf or videos immediately. On top of that, the first week doesn't start until March 23rd.

1. I won't be able to tell you much about the Seo Upsell, because they
won't release all of the modules until late May.

2. I don't know much about WP Mage.

3. The section they have about buying expired domains is pretty basic,
imo.

4. The core ACC itself is comprehensive, but still basic. I like the fact that they tell you why it's important to do certain things, but it's not really a game changer.

I'll try and keep you posted.

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mmoconnor

16 years ago

What does the upsell consist of and how much does it cost? Do you think the upsell was essential material? or just media?

How valuable are the plugins you get with the package?

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pavionjsl

16 years ago

just a rehash off his old course with some other methods used buy a few other people such as the wp mage method of buying old expiring websites, but its like the guy charges for more a less the same info as his other course.

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dotcomdesigns 16 years ago

This is a useful course for newbies - not experienced IM's like myself. I've just asked for a refund as there's nothing new in it for me.

But if you are a newbie it's a very comprehensive course with hours of video, step by step instructions, pdf's all laid out in easy to follow steps. If you are just starting out for $77 it will be money well spent.
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by pavionjsl

just a rehash off his old course with some other methods used buy a few other people such as the wp mage method of buying old expiring websites, but its like the guy charges for more a less the same info as his other course.

What is the skinny on wpmage?

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mtucker

16 years ago

For those of you who have reviewed this course, is it possible to make money with it? Do you think it could be given to a VA to do and could they do it successfully?

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Mike

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askloz

16 years ago

I'm pretty confident that you'll make the $77 back within the 60 day money back guarantee. So go for it

Originally Posted by mtucker

For those of you who have reviewed this course, is it possible to make money with it? Do you think it could be given to a VA to do and could they do it successfully?

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Mike

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magentawave 16 years ago

Yes, I would also like to know if this is something a VA a million miles away could handle without a lot of hand-holding on my part?

Steve

Originally Posted by mtucker

For those of you who have reviewed this course, do you think it could be given to a VA to do and could they do it successfully?

Thank you,

Mike
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- crudenbay 16 years ago
  
  I'll vouch for Brian's product. I bought Commission Ritual and it was outstanding. Also got SEOPress, and it was very good.
  
  I've bought products from everyone (Kern, Reese, etc.) and I rate Brian's quality and content as good or better than these guys.
  
  What sets it apart for me was the depth and the detail he provided. I frequently go back to some of his videos in Commission Ritual to see how he does stuff.
  
  Disclosure: I have not looked at the Auto Content product, but wanted to give a viewpoint to those who may not have heard of Brian.
  
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- Charles Harper 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by magentawave
  
  Yes, I would also like to know if this is something a VA a million miles away could handle without a lot of hand-holding on my part?
  
  Steve
  
  I was on the call with Brian tonight and while there are some parts that you can and should outsource, you will need to be intimately involved with the process. He recommended that you do not consider this to be a 100% outsourcing model. I don't want to pour cold water on what you are trying to do. Why not just get it and see?
  
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askloz

16 years ago

It's nothing like wpmage, what ya on about? WPMage costs 10 times more than ACC for doing the same stuff

Originally Posted by pavionjsl

just a rehash off his old course with some other methods used buy a few other people such as the wp mage method of buying old expiring websites, but its like the guy charges for more a less the same info as his other course.

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askloz

16 years ago

I didn't see this post, i just answered someone elses Q here too about the same thing

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...tent-cash.html

Originally Posted by GautamSaha

Hi Folks:

Hearing some buzz about the ACC Autoblogging systems....
Can any one provide a honest review?
I will be launched tomorrow?
The benefit of the Free "Deep Link Engine" plugin is not clear.

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Brian Johnson

16 years ago

Hey Gang,

I just want to chime in and tell you a bit about this program, what it is and what it is not. First off I want to mention that I am the course creator and this is a project that I have been working on at some level since the spring of 2009 when I released a very early beta version for $47 on clickbank.

Soon after I released Commission Ritual which has received lots of praise here on the warrior forum, Auto Content Cash is a natural follow up with the focus being scaling and automation (at a reasonable price).

The course is packed, I would guess 100 tutorial videos , pdf reports, content plugins and more. The course covers many aspects / marketing strategies that I have based my affiliate and adsense business on over the years.

- 2 content plugins (yahoo answers, youtube.com videos)
- 100(or so) tutorial videos
- module: autoblogging automation (my way)
- module: piggyback marketing (expired domain profits)
- module: mass automation (again, my methods - my way)

I will also be releasing a new custom plugin "Ritual Genius" that
one of my Commission Ritual customers created in the coming days.
It speeds up the wordpress install process, works well and is
easy to use.

I am not going to try to sell anyone here ... as I am the vedor with
Alex and Jared (third partner).

I hope this post gives those intrested a bit of an idea about
our course, I have spent hundreds of hours on it and I am
confident it will help many.

- It is not a magic bullet, but it is based on real methods
that I have test ... I am very proud of the "batch processing"
module I came up with as it was developed for myself to be able to
launch hundreds of sites (which I have done of the last four months).

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scorcher 16 years ago

Brian - do you need to use this on conjunction with subscription based services for this to work? For example, SeNuke or UAW? Thanks!
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- Brian Johnson 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by scorcher
  
  Brian - do you need to use this on conjunction with subscription based services for this to work? For example, SeNuke or UAW? Thanks!
  
  No, not at all.
  
  In fact some of the demo sites has zero backlinks
  
  As I HATE building links.
  
  That being said I offer some discounts to some
  products that aid in the process, however this course
  just as Commission Ritual stands on it own and requires
  no further purchases.
  
  You get ...
  
  - plugins
  - themes
  - videos
  - tactics
  - ect
  
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mick535

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Brian Johnson

Hey Gang,

I just want to chime in and tell you a bit about this program, what it is and what it is not. First off I want to mention that I am the course creator and this is a project that I have been working on at some level since the spring of 2009 when I released a very early beta version for $47 on clickbank.

Soon after I released Commission Ritual which has received lots of praise here on the warrior forum, Auto Content Cash is a natural follow up with the focus being scaling and automation (at a reasonable price).

The course is packed, I would guess 100 tutorial videos , pdf reports, content plugins and more. The course covers many aspects / marketing strategies that I have based my affiliate and adsense business on over the years.

- 2 content plugins (yahoo answers, youtube.com videos)
- 100(or so) tutorial videos
- module: autoblogging automation (my way)
- module: piggyback marketing (expired domain profits)
- module: mass automation (again, my methods - my way)

I will also be releasing a new custom plugin "Ritual Genius" that
one of my Commission Ritual customers created in the coming days.
It speeds up the wordpress install process, works well and is
easy to use.

I am not going to try to sell anyone here ... as I am the vedor with
Alex and Jared (third partner).

I hope this post gives those intrested a bit of an idea about
our course, I have spent hundreds of hours on it and I am
confident it will help many.

- It is not a magic bullet, but it is based on real methods
that I have test ... I am very proud of the "batch processing"
module I came up with as it was developed for myself to be able to
launch hundreds of sites (which I have done of the last four months).

Best,

Sorry Brian,

As I am a professional Auto Blogger and I have my own system as you can see from my WSO in my signature, I have to say that you guys can't be serious about this program? I purchased it because in my research to continue to bring my members the best product possible, I buy my competitors products in order to learn some new things, see what others are doing etc.

I will make some factual points because this is not to bash, it is to point out some serious flaws.

First and foremost: Telling everyone who buys this that they can make 27 sites per day, a site per hour, never to be touched again is flat out wrong. Does not work and will not work with the plugins you have. In an abscure niche with zero competition you may squeek out some sales. Maybe. By doing this, your members will burn a lot of good domains and Flippa is going to have a junk site heyday sometime soon. Set and forget does not work. Not anymore.

Why? You already know the answer. SEO and Backlinks still apply. Yes, that is why you have your Domain buying portion. That is just a low gade solution that may work short term. Google is smart on these blogs now. This content is very early 2009, maybe 2008 information. CommentLUV will bring a lot of SPAM so you have to manage that with your blogs and it won't always bring you constructive comments. I only use this on White Hat sites for management puposes.

You don't stress Tags at all and Tags are where it is at right now. Most top tier SEOers are strssing to now allow Google to index Tags. Building your inner site link structure via KeywordLUV is not a solution I would choose.

Let's Take a look at WP Mage. This is an advanced system with very advanced plugins. It is built on the foundation that the only way you can truly succeed with Auto Blogging is to mix content in your posts to build uniqueness and variety. I agree. That among a host of other reasons is why over half my members are WP Mage members as well. Mager were taught initially that they too could just build and go, building 100 sites in a week. Ask the Magers how that is working out for them now? The WP Magers that are succeeding are the ones that understand the Settings tweaks and SEO portion of the equation, not to mention the proper way to structure and monetize these types of blogs.

I am not a Marketer. I am a Money Maker and Auto Blogger. You guys have done a great job of Marketing this product. If I had half of your site building and marketing skills I would be very rich instead of just doing real good.

Mike Johnson

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DannyUK 16 years ago

Why are people looking for "lazy" ways to market their business anyway? Does anyone think stealing other peoples' content and spamming it across the already spam soaked Internet is a good idea and the sound foundation for a sustainable business? I bet Google doesn't.

When was the last time you saw an ad in the jobs column that read, "Wanted, lazy person who expects somebody else to do the job for them - big salary and perks!"
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- mark keeler 16 years ago
  
  I have read most of the comments and it's great to see people are actually interested in what Auto Content Cash is.
  
  There is nothing new in Auto Content Cash. However, as with everything that Brian Johnson does, it's a well thought out system. The guy loves to teach. All of his videos are done on the fly. He does real time research. You can hear dogs barking in the back ground, chain saws, and all kinds of noise as Brian rips away doing his research.
  
  So if any of you think all he is doing is reposting recycled crap, you are way off base.
  
  Brian was a chef, and probably an incredible chef. Chefs are known for creating an incredible product that we all love to eat up. If you give 10 different chefs the same ingredients and no recipe, you will get 10 different results.
  
  Brian gives you all the ingredients for success. If you just want to go the "fast food" route, he gives you the recipe(s)
  
  These websites are not killer money makers. He will tell you that he is happy when a site will make $10 a month. I would be happy too if it only took me 30 minutes to create the site.
  
  I think it is one of the most solid courses being offered. No risk. $77.
  
  I hate up sells because they always tell you that you will never see the offer again. Alex Goad does a good job at strong arming the up sells. There is so much information in the ACC course, I wonder why anyone would buy the up sell because all the offers are way more expensive than the $77 course!
  
  I did grab the inner circle up sell as I want to hang out with Brian for a while.
  
  Some one made a comment if this is going to be the next Google Sniper. Hardly. What differentiates Brian Johnson from George Brown is that he sticks around after he sells his course and does not spam you every day with another killer money maker. Brian actually hangs out in his own FREE members forum. He will answer back.
  
  I don't want to be too hard on George Brown. His teaching is exceptional. I love his style and he always makes me laugh with his dry sense of humor. I am always interested in what he has to say.
  
  I am going through all of the ACC video course this week. I already have implemented the auto content plugins on 1 site Cappuccino Espresso Maker. I am passionate about coffee and have made a bunch of Youtube videos about home coffee roasting. I figured that it's now time to monetize my passion. I have 3 auto content plugins running-Yahoo Answers, Youtube, and the Deep Links Engine plugin.
  
  I am concerned about the deep links engine plugin. I am not sure if it's really worth using. I don't want too many links/pings added so fast. I am going to disable it in a few days.
  
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mark keeler 16 years ago

Are you a Mager as well? I noticed that the site is closed to new members.

I would love to hear more about your membership site. Is it a one time fee or monthly?

Since you have purchased ACC, what differentiates your systems?

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scorcher

16 years ago

Blimey! Thanks for that. Have got Commission Ritual awaiting my perusal already - in your personal opinion would it make sense for go through that first, and then Auto Content Cash, or does it make no difference?

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Brian Johnson

16 years ago

Scorcher,

I am proud of both of the course ....

BJ

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scorcher

16 years ago

And quite rightly so, I'm sure!

But would it benefit me to follow them in a particular order?

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Brian Johnson

16 years ago

Not sure I can reply any more as the admin
have removed email notification.

With that I am going to let the users determine the
value of Auto Content Cash and will not be posting
anymore.

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usfemail

16 years ago

I just purchased the Auto Content Poster and am currently implementing the methods; as I want to be able to get my money back asap. I did not purchase any of the upsells as I feel that I can make this go without it.

Currently watching the videos and hopefully I will get my first site set up today.

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thecableguy 16 years ago

The video salesletter is kinda mind bending if you ask me as I tend to get impatient and would have preferred a normal saleletter with videos for certain sections. Heckuva pre-screener though, if you sit through that you MUST be a hungry/targeted buyer and not just a tire kicker.

But seriously, I've just viewed some of the first video's and there's some good information there, and I'm familiar with Brian's other video course so I know there's good information in the rest of the video's as well. One thing I like is the video's are short bite size pieces and loads almost instantly and plays smoothly. You can easily go back to review portions you might have missed.

The thing I didn't like about it was the upsells immediately after purchase, yeah I understand the concept that "since your wallets out...", but I'd just prefer to look over the product first before deciding if I want more, but that's just me.

It's also geared towards Wordpress sites so if you're not familiar with Wordpress you'll have to learn how to use it (it's not hard). Like I said I previously had some of Brian's stuff and I'm not a newbie when it comes to niche marketing and keywod research, but I leaned a few things in the opening videos. Since it's guarenteed I'd jump on it before the price goes up. You are going to have to put in the tough it's not 100% automated But, IMO well worth the money.
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usfemail

16 years ago

Hey I purchased today and did not get the upsells. They consist of an SEO marketing method or something like that you can choose to pay $57.00 per month. Then the next upsell is a marketing membership site that I guess takes you step by step how to make money that will cost you an additional one time fee of $197.

My suggestion to you is to avoid the upsells if you are familiar with SEO and making money online. As for additional tools he says that you can easily get started with hosting and domain costs alone. Of course he is going to recommend other products but they are not necessary to begin making money.

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kerry1952

16 years ago

I presume this will be a rehash of Google Conquest. From what I've heard Google Conquest was a nightmare and incredibly disorganised, although there was some good info for the new person.

Although GC was Alex Goad's, he was hardly ever heard from. All the frontman work was done by Brian Johnson. I've since heard that GC appears to have fallen in a hole. I'm just glad I didn't fork out $1000 plus 90 something dollars a month. I wonder if ACC will go the same way.

Automation seems to be a buzz word at the moment but I really wonder if there is such a thing in this business. I reckon the best way to automate, if you have to, is to outsource. At least you have control if it's done properly and I'm sure that SERPs will reflect this.

Although I haven't seen ACC, I would think there are better ways to spend money and get as good if not better results without all the hassles of upsells and the other BS. Just go into it with your eyes open and don't be blinded by the promises.

Anyway, that's my opinion....for what it's worth!

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askloz

16 years ago

mark, something is up with your site, its DEAD SLOW

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mark keeler

16 years ago

loz,

Something is really hosed on my coffee blog site. It's a new site and I may reinstall WP and just over write everything. It will take more time to figure out what is wrong rather than just start over from scratch.

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JNFerree

16 years ago

Originally Posted by mark keeler

loz,

Something is really hosed on my coffee blog site. It's a new site and I may reinstall WP and just over write everything. It will take more time to figure out what is wrong rather than just start over from scratch.

Mark,

For what its worth, when I upgraded to WP v2.9 I encountered some awful plug-in conflicts. When I spoke with my ISP (they give great 24/7 support) they guy told me I should NOT have installed with Fantastico rather to use Simple Scripts. A couple months later, I had another snafu crop up and rather than chase down the source of the problem, I simply saved the SQL db and did a quick ftp upload and all was well in a few minutes. The one lesson I learned was to deactivate all plug-ins, see if the blog performs and then revert to updating the DB which seems to fix most all WP snags.

Neil

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magentawave

16 years ago

WP 3.2? Really? I see that 2.9.2 is the latest in my admin area.

All my self-hosted WP sites were installed using Fantastico and they all work great. If your host told you to not use Fantastico then that is because they are an inadequate host. The best is still Hostgator/SeoHosting.

Steve

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Mark,

For what its worth, when I upgraded to WP v3.2 I encountered some awful plug-in conflicts. When I spoke with my ISP (they give great 24/7 support) they guy told me I should NOT have installed with Fantastico rather to use Simple Scripts. A couple months later, I had another snafu crop up and rather than chase down the source of the problem, I simply saved the SQL db and did a quick ftp upload and all was well in a few minutes. The one lesson I learned was to deactivate all plug-ins, see if the blog performs and then revert to updating the DB which seems to fix most all WP snags.

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dotcomdesigns

16 years ago

As I've already mentioned this is only for newbies. Anyone's who's been around for a few months should give it a miss. I've paid for it and asked for a refund (no answer to that yet, 2 days and counting).

I want my money back because there was nothing in the course that I haven't researched or found before through other courses.

I was using wp plugins scraping Yahoo answers over a year ago so disappointed to see this is one of the modules being recommended as something revolutionary. There are many other things in there that are rehashed from other courses.

So again, I say, if you are just starting out, great, get it. If not don't bother.

Brian and co, look forward to getting my refund ASAP!

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askloz

16 years ago

mark, those 3rd party links you got on your posts, its not necessary to have heaps of posts that contain them. if you place them in the sidebar, it'll be better. Im not sure if a plugin is "requesting" the links each time the page is load or what? but something is causing it to slow down by creating loads of requests for data and not being stored/ cached...

@dotcomdesigns...

give it a break? are you serious? its not for newbies at all, its probably one of the easiest, passive ways to make money, i got over 1000 sites that does stuff similar to this... don't knock it until you've hit the $1k+ per week mark in adsense.

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dotcomdesigns

16 years ago

@dotcomdesigns...

give it a break? are you serious? its not for newbies at all, its probably one of the easiest, passive ways to make money, i got over 1000 sites that does stuff similar to this... don't knock it until you've hit the $1k+ per week mark in adsense.

I'm sorry Loz but I've read much of it before. There's nothing in it for me whether I'm earning £1k a day or a month. I bought it because there's no risk to me as they offer a no quibble refund within 60 days. Had it been full of information that was new or beneficial to me I'd have been happy to keep it. It's just a large collection of information that's been collected elsewhere and all wrapped up in one big bundle.

I could go through it and show people where to get most of it for free. But that's not fair on the developer. But I stick by my belief that's it's for people starting out. I just don't accept anyone who has been at this for some time needs to buy it.

But at $77 it's risk free, get it and decide for yourself. If it's of no use get a refund. I don't understand why people want reviews when they can download everything and get their money back if they don't like it. The time spent here arguing the toss as whether or not it's any good could be spent actually reviewing it oneself!

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by dotcomdesigns

I'm sorry Loz but I've read much of it before. There's nothing in it for me whether I'm earning £1k a day or a month. I bought it because there's no risk to me as they offer a no quibble refund within 60 days. Had it been full of information that was new or beneficial to me I'd have been happy to keep it. It's just a large collection of information that's been collected elsewhere and all wrapped up in one big bundle.

You've read much of it before? What ya mean? All these people saying that they only make a few cents per day or what ever?

I wonder if it ever occurred to you if these people knew what they were doing?

Most just think "Oh, get a keyword list, whack up some articles, use some WP plugins for content, and I'll be fine"...

No wonder why these peeps who may think this aren't earning that much in adsense.

When ya do things correctly, you get similar results like this (generated from over 1000 sites)

Originally Posted by dotcomdesigns

I could go through it and show people where to get most of it for free. But that's not fair on the developer. But I stick by my belief that's it's for people starting out. I just don't accept anyone who has been at this for some time needs to buy it.

It's not for people just starting out, it's for ANYONE!!

I mean, I've been online for 12 years, and some of the plugins Brian talks about I didn't even know existed...

The videos in there alone is worth the $77

Originally Posted by dotcomdesigns

But at $77 it's risk free, get it and decide for yourself. If it's of no use get a refund. I don't understand why people want reviews when they can download everything and get their money back if they don't like it. The time spent here arguing the toss as whether or not it's any good could be spent actually reviewing it oneself!

And yes, I have it already, I bought it the other day. I just spent 2-3 hours today doing some keyword research on paintball stuff.

Now I'm waiting for the DNS to be sorted out so I can get started.

to have this attitude, "If they dont like it, get a refund" is out of order.

People should ONLY get this if they want to take action, the lazy ones who think after putting up one site or two and not making much money will lend towards asking for a refund. those peeps need to go back to the drawing board and watch the videos Brian made and see where they made their mistake.

Brian says that you could do this in 30-75 minutes...

Nah, I think 2-4 hours is more realistic. That's from Keyword research, setting up cpanel, finding the right domain name.

Struth, the pyramids was not built in a day... peeps should treat it like a 9-5, and do the proper keyword research as illustrated in the videos in ACC and they wont go wrong.

Any ways, $77, itsa no brainer.

I'll let ya know in 60 days how my "ACC Network of sites" gets on

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16 years ago

Hey Guys,

Just bought ACC yesterday and so far I think it's filled with great information on setting sites up correctly. Brian's way of teaching is excellent as he doesn't rush it.

I would just have one question for any WP Mager's out there or know of that program. Would Mage speed up the site creation process or would it be better to do it this way with unique content etc ...?

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mbphoenix 16 years ago

Sorry for a dumb question.... but what is WP Mager?
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  Sorry for a dumb question.... but what is WP Mager?
  
  WP Mage is an auto blogging system that comes with a complete set of Plugins and tools for building auto blogs with Wordpress. It is much more than that, but to understand you can reference more information here:
  
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Thank god for the warrior forum.
Doing research before buying a new product
is hardly a waste of time. A few members here
seem to think because there is a 60 day
unconditional guarantee that it's a no brainer.

Well, I have read the entire posting.
Ans was able to determine if I was wasting my time
with this purchase.

All said and done, Yes, I can purchase, and get a refund.
So, why not take a few minutes to read a few review's and opinions first?

I personally am new to blogging at all, so what the heck

I appreciate all members that have commented on this post.

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askloz

16 years ago

you're better off asking that question in the mage thread mate

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mick535

16 years ago

I am a WP Mage Member, I also purchased Auto Content Cash, but more importantly, I didn't buy either because I had to. I did it for research. I am a long time Auto Blogger and some of the information here is just plain wrong.

The biggest issue with Auto Content Cash is the overall methodology. There is nothing worse than telling beginners that you can make tons of money doing a slap and go site like they do with this method. Buying seasoned domains is an excellent technique, but is a complete waste if you are using the techniques taught in this course.

The base plugins are not bad, but are not what I would recommend, especially with certain settings, but that is a minor gripe and could be considered very tic for tac. The important plugins are the ones that provide the content. Without the right content these blogs fail instantly and without a decent design, they will sit on Flippa and waste away. Just using an outdated methodology with just Yahoo Answers and Youtube videos in Solo postings is not enough, Google caught on to that awhile ago. There is only a very brief reference to using plugins to add on to this such as phpBay/ ZON, but they don't add content, just ads.

Adsense stats from 2008 aren't enough to convince anyone who knows anything about auto blogging or just plain blogging for that matter, to jump in with both feet here. WP Mage's plugins succeed because they mix content from multiple sources as does WP Robot. But you still need more.
Backlinks and promotion with any site on the internet is crucial to success. This can be automated.

I have almost 100 auto blogs. I could have more, but by managing the ones I have correctly, I make more money. Most of the beginners buying this course can't afford to buy 100s of domains, yet support the hosting costs associated with the amount of hosting that is required for numerous auto blogs. You are not puting them all on a single shared hosting account at Hostgator, I can tell you that.

Most of my Auto Blogs make between $5 and $10 per day, but I tell my members that if your blogs make $.50 per day, then you are on your way. It can take 2 months or more to come out of the Google sandbox for new domains and even older ones deal with the Google Dance. This is when people can expect to start making money, definitely not day one although there are exceptions based on Niche and competition. I have a few sites that are making $90-150 per day, it goes up and down based on day, time, etc, which is normal. These sites have backlinks, mixed content, and very nice themes with mutiple categories, and opt-ins for monetization ehancements. I actually sell advertising on these sites and I don't post more than once per day to them.

Why am I telling you all of this, because ACC doesn't. Period. It is a flawed technique with good information on blogging for beginners, but if you want to make money using this program, you might not get what you expect.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by mick535

The biggest issue with Auto Content Cash is the overall methodology. There is nothing worse than telling beginners that you can make tons of money doing a slap and go site like they do with this method. Buying seasoned domains is an excellent technique, but is a complete waste if you are using the techniques taught in this course.

At no time did Brian say you can make tons of money by slapping up sites.

Each site is going to be different based on the keywords people choose.

Now I have similar software, custom made that does similar stuff to what ACC does that generates content, gets backlinks, etc automatically on over 1700 websites.

And it's making me a ton of cash.

But it's only making a ton of cash cos I have a lot of sites.

Brian even says that some sites you use along with ACC will make around 50 cents to a couple dollars per day, some less.

But the power of it comes when you create more sites, hence the clone tool that's being offered to leverage one sites earnings into 100, 1000 times more depending on how many more sites you own.

And that's all it is, once you find something that works, duplicate the process, and that's what Brian is doing, that $7k he showed on his site was not from one website, its from all his sites.

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Adsense stats from 2008 aren't enough to convince anyone who knows anything about auto blogging or just plain blogging for that matter, to jump in with both feet here. WP Mage's plugins succeed because they mix content from multiple sources as does WP Robot. But you still need more.
Backlinks and promotion with any site on the internet is crucial to success. This can be automated.

those were my stats from 2008, but I can say they aren't that high now, it's dropped a huge amount, over 50% to be honest, but still yeilds more than $10k a month with no effort on my part.

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I have almost 100 auto blogs. I could have more, but by managing the ones I have correctly, I make more money. Most of the beginners buying this course can't afford to buy 100s of domains, yet support the hosting costs associated with the amount of hosting that is required for numerous auto blogs. You are not puting them all on a single shared hosting account at Hostgator, I can tell you that.

Why am I telling you all of this, because ACC doesn't. Period. It is a flawed technique with good information on blogging for beginners, but if you want to make money using this program, you might not get what you expect.

Mike

I'm pretty sure Brian said that some of his sites only make a dollar or so per day. but the power of it is creating more sites, which is a no brainer to understand

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16 years ago

Hey warriors!
Any ideas of system requirements for the system from those who bought it? Or is it all online? (I use a mac).

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Originally Posted by Adamtrd

Hey warriors!
Any ideas of system requirements for the system from those who bought it? Or is it all online? (I use a mac).

Cheers,
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This system is not a desktop system. It is not a software product. It is based on creating auto blogs with Wordpress. The type of computer you use or operating system does not matter. The membership site is built with Wishlist Member via a Wordpress site. Yes, it is all online.

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magentawave 16 years ago

But even if it was platform specific, Windows runs beautifully on a Mac. I run about 10 Windows-only programs on my Mac using VM Warefusion and XP.

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Any ideas of system requirements for the system from those who bought it? Or is it all online? (I use a mac).

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mbphoenix

16 years ago

I bought it.. so far looks pretty good. Lots of videos and instructions - good for newbies.

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16 years ago

I just saw this product and think that it might be a great deal of the month. Just checking out whether anyone has used this system to drive traffic to your website?

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Can Candies

16 years ago

I have taken the auto content cash course and the commission ritual course and both courses rock as usual. Brian is one of the most passionate teacher and student (I mean he applies what he teaches himself) that I know about. I love his repetitious way because he repeates all the methods and concepts until it really sinks into the users brain and this makes the material so much easier to apply and use. I love the Brian Johnson and James Jones webinars and these two guys really are very instructive, knowledgable, and personal. Brian is the guy to go to when you need money now and he breaks it down for you in a 1-2-3 step process without complicated research and tools!
Many thanks to you Brian for your wonderful courses that you are putting together in such a meticulous and personal manner. Many greetings to Otis as well

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Can Candies

I have taken the auto content cash course and the commission ritual course and both courses rock as usual. Brian is one of the most passionate teacher and student (I mean he applies what he teaches himself) that I know about. I love his repetitious way because he repeates all the methods and concepts until it really sinks into the users brain and this makes the material so much easier to apply and use. I love the Brian Johnson and James Jones webinars and these two guys really are very instructive, knowledgable, and personal. Brian is the guy to go to when you need money now and he breaks it down for you in a 1-2-3 step process without complicated research and tools!
Many thanks to you Brian for your wonderful courses that you are putting together in such a meticulous and personal manner. Many greetings to Otis as well

Can Candies,

You are more than welcome, several years ago I decided
to get into digital products because I felt like I had some
ideas to share and also to make some money and move to
the next level of internet marketing.

As you mention I am passionate about what I do and I
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released with each new course I make available.

Glad your finding ACC to be of help ...

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mick535 16 years ago

Sorry guys, but you all know the reality already. That is why you answered all of the unimportant issues and skipped the most important.

Content.

There are Hundreds of threads right here in this forum, to include the WP Mage thread, that talks about this very important feature. The plugins here will not do what needs to be done for content. The advertisement section of the Best Spinner isn't going to do it because where is the automation for the PLR articles? In other plugins that are not listed here.

Straight Yahoo Answers and Youtube videos are not enough anymore. Last year, yes. All you have to do is visit the WP Robot, phpBay, or ReviewAZON forums, not to mention the WP Mage member forum that I know Askloz is already a member of, and should hear the constant complaints from members who miss out on profits just because of SEO basics and backlink automation that needs to happen for auto blogs to succeed instead of sit and rot in the Google cache.

There are WP Mage members who have paid $997 for the most complex and complete set of auto blogging plugins currently available who have not made but $100 with 100 sites in 3 months or more because they were taught that they didn't have to build backlinks or worry about SEO and that "they would NEVER have to touch their blogs again" after they were created. That has changed now because it didn't work.

You want to know the difference between success with an Auto Blog and a regular blog someone has built? With an Auto Blog you have to work harder at the little things to succeed. There are millions of bloggers on the web building quality sites by hand and to compete with this original content, you have to work smarter and more methodically. To say any different is a play on beginners.

There is good content in ACC, but the overall methodology is what is broken.

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mbphoenix 16 years ago

I agree. Brian is a great teacher and the ACC is working great for me.
Prior to this I was suffering from information overload and was so confused I didn't know where to start.
The step by step process really got me started.
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tjmiller

16 years ago

I am going to take a deep breath before posting this here, because I'm sure that I'm going to piss some people off.

I watched a webinar (with James Jones) about this product and couldn't help but be intrigued. The idea of being able to build sites that quickly and then flip them for decent money was what I was interested in, because I have become drawn to flipping (books, sites, domains, whatever!) lately.

The problem I keep having in my mind with this system, and in fact with most "auto content" plugins and methods, is that the sites created by these methods are usually pure crap. I don't want to create crap.

When I am scouring Flippa for sites to purchase, and I stumble onto one of those automated content sites, most of it us just not readable. Have you ever READ what's on Yahoo Answers? Admittedly, there are some people on there who can write and speak, but a lot of it is drivel.

Also, it seems that when content is being pulled by some plugin or software, half of what you end up with has nothing to do with your niche or keywords. I have seen some pretty strange things on automated blogs.

So I guess my question is this: Does this system (ACC) or for that matter ANY automated system, create websites of any quality. We all want to make money, sure, but I don't want to make it by putting more garbage on the internet.

I look forward to hearing your opinions on this.

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askloz

16 years ago

I've just put together my first ACC site, took a bit to get used to all the plugins, but once you understand how to configure everything, everything else is smooth sailing...

I'm still playing with mine...

all my content is related, except for related blogs, which I found a fix for and posted a solution on the ACC forum...

So far, I'm happy with it - in fact I'm quite intrigued to go back once in a while cos i picked a pretty interesting niche... just need to get the site indexed now and wait for the $$$ to roll in.

BTW, does anyone know of a plugin that taps into clickbanks feed, and allows you to enter certain keywords that you may locate on your posts, and have them automatically hyperlinked to an affiliate link preconfigured in the plugins config settings?

Cos it would be good to try and turn it into a Google Sniper Site at the same time

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tjmiller

16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

I've just put together my first ACC site, took a bit to get used to all the plugins, but once you understand how to configure everything, everything else is smooth sailing...

I'm still playing with mine...

all my content is related, except for related blogs, which I found a fix for and posted a solution on the ACC forum...

So far, I'm happy with it - in fact I'm quite intrigued to go back once in a while cos i picked a pretty interesting niche... just need to get the site indexed now and wait for the $$$ to roll in.

BTW, does anyone know of a plugin that taps into clickbanks feed, and allows you to enter certain keywords that you may locate on your posts, and have them automatically hyperlinked to an affiliate link preconfigured in the plugins config settings?

Cos it would be good to try and turn it into a Google Sniper Site at the same time

Do you mind sharing a link to the site? I am really curious to see if this system produces what I consider quality sites. I have seen sites that I considered garbage sites selling in the multiple hundreds on Flippa - sites that I wouldn't pay $20 for.

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DannyUK

16 years ago

The problem I keep having in my mind with this system, and in fact with most "auto content" plugins and methods, is that the sites created by these methods are usually pure crap. I don't want to create crap.

Well said Teresa!

And there's that other little point that nobody wants to mention, stealing content because some people are too damn lazy to generate it themselves.

Who cares what the best auto-blogging software is? It all amounts to the same thing, skimming off the back of content creators. I've heard all the arguments put up to defend this practice and they all stink. Seriously, how can you possibly be "adding value" by thieving content and re-hashing it so it doesn't even read as intelligible English any more? Or worse, just plain out plagiarising it? It's spam and theft regardless of whatever semi-inventive cover story is put up to excuse it. I wonder how much more of this the Internet can take before it grinds to a halt or how much longer the search engines can fight to keep a useful index that isn't completely swamped in spam?

I bought Auto Content Cash because I was interested in finding out about the cloning software mentioned. I hate having to wade through all the WordPress settings each time I build a blog for a customer. This tool sounded promising - right up until I learned it's a third party add-on that costs "between $99 and $199." A mention of this in the sales hype would have been useful.

I also bought on the strength of Brian Johnson's previous products which are excellent, in my opinion. Which is why it's so disappointing to see him mixed up in this sort of business, especially as he has been a long-time advocate of unique and useful content.

As for the automation plugins, one look at those quickly revealed that anyone who thinks they are going to get away with running even a handful of these spam sites on a low powered or shared server is in for a shock. They are horrendous resource hogs. If I was the host I'd shut these down in a flash and if I was a customer having to share a server infested by these tools I'd be mighty hacked off.

I tried that deep-link plugin too, just on a single posting on one of my blogs. It came back with a pile of garbage that I wouldn't let within a mile of any of my sites.

It's just very sad to see so many people making a fuss about a product that is at the exact reverse of where you want to be if you are seriously looking to build a sustainable business. In the end, because their business will depend on it, Google will crack this problem and these types of site will disappear overnight. Too bad if you've built your whole business on them then. But good news for the rest of us who are prepared to work to achieve results.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by DannyUK

Who cares what the best auto-blogging software is? It all amounts to the same thing, skimming off the back of content creators. I've heard all the arguments put up to defend this practice and they all stink. Seriously, how can you possibly be "adding value" by thieving content and re-hashing it so it doesn't even read as intelligible English any more? Or worse, just plain out plagiarizing it? It's spam and theft regardless of whatever semi-inventive cover story is put up to excuse it. I wonder how much more of this the Internet can take before it grinds to a halt or how much longer the search engines can fight to keep a useful index that isn't completely swamped in spam?

1. "Adding Value" is extremely subjective. There isn't much that an affiliate can do to create truly unique and valuable content in the "foot fungus", "digital camera" or most other markets for that matter. Yes, you can pass a copyscape and keep your visitors occupied for a few minutes or so, but ultimately everything has been said already.

2. It's extremely easy for Google to deal with duplicate content. The way it works is that Google will only rank the article on the page with the best SEO ranking. The others will be filtered out.

3. That whole argument about the Internet grinding to a halt is so 1999. If what you are saying is true then the article directories by themselves would be enough to take down the internet.

4. Taking 2 or 3 sentences from a blog post is just fine as long as you link back to the original source. You can also take full articles from article directories and use those as long as you follow the rules. Of course, you probably should have mostly unique articles on your homepage, but adding Articles from article directories to your backpages wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea.

5. I've never really been interested in auto content blogs until recently. I was watching one of Willie Crawfords video's where he said he made a good chunk of his money from auto-blogs. I really couldn't believe it because this guy is supposed to be a guru when it comes to web and e-mail copywriting.

I think a lot of these so-called gurus are making money with autoblogs in one way or another.

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Hi Sylonius,

People may well have diverse opinions on what constitutes value. However, scraping content and then distributing it without the author's permission is theft. So you need to measure perceived value against this inescapable and unjustifiable fact. I'm not being naive here, I know there will always be certain types of people who are perfectly comfortable abusing others in order to gain advantage. I'm more worried about prominent marketers in our industry promoting such methods. It's potentially a green flag to a whole new army of spammers, some merely innocently following the advice of those they consider to be legitimate teachers.

I don't think it's easy for Google to deal with duplicate content at all. That's why there are countless thousands or probably millions of virtually identical pages online, at least from a human perspective. There are many ways to game the search engines by manipulating scraped content.

I also have considerable doubts about your claim as to how Google deals with duplicate content. If this was true then it would be very easy to knock out original and legitimate sources. All you would need to do is scrape a competitor site and ensure your page was better optimised. According to the theory you have proposed the original author would be dropped in favour of the stolen alternative. So there must be more to it than you suggest.

Okay, so I'm aware the Internet isn't physically going to seize up. But from a general usability point of view, if these auto-scrapers gain any more traction we'll end up deluged. How can that possibly represent an increase in value? How can it be beneficial in any way? And how on earth will we ever find anything of value in a search engine?

Ask yourself a question. If auto-blogging is useful beyond generating profits for the lazy then what would occur if everybody turned to it? I know it won't happen but my point is auto-bloggers are feeding off legitimate activity and then trying to excuse their behaviour by suggesting there is some wider value in what they are doing. It's nonsense.

On the other hand, if everybody took to producing original content that would be highly beneficial across the board. It's pretty clear, content theft isn't useful on any level.

Yes, I totally agree with you when you suggest borrowing small parts of third party content can enhance a new and otherwise original piece of writing. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. I'd also concede that if we really must endure the spam produced by auto-bloggers it is much better if they supplement it with at least an amount of original material.

I can even understand why people turn to auto-generating some of their content. I'm sure many will be aware they are up against the unscrupulous auto-bloggers and so they try to get a little automated help just to stay in the game.

It's the element of theft I'm totally against. Automation is a personal choice but theft is immoral and I can't envisage any grounds for condoning it. Let alone push it as a new product launch. It's disgraceful.

I suspect you are correct, many of these "gurus" are probably far detached from their public image when the curtain is pulled back. I guess in that respect it could be claimed at least Alex Goad and Brian Johnson aren't trying to hide anything. But being brazen isn't the same as being honest.
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16 years ago

I can show you privately sure... I'm not gonna show peeps yet publicly until the site has fully matured, which in my terms is around 1-2 months of continuous, regular content.

Originally Posted by tjmiller

Do you mind sharing a link to the site? I am really curious to see if this system produces what I consider quality sites. I have seen sites that I considered garbage sites selling in the multiple hundreds on Flippa - sites that I wouldn't pay $20 for.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

I can show you privately sure... I'm not gonna show peeps yet publicly until the site has fully matured, which in my terms is around 1-2 months of continuous, regular content.

Thanks for sharing that. It went a long way toward helping me make my decision.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

BTW, does anyone know of a plugin that taps into clickbanks feed, and allows you to enter certain keywords that you may locate on your posts, and have them automatically hyperlinked to an affiliate link preconfigured in the plugins config settings?

Nearly - the closest I have seen to doing this is WP Unique. If you enter the keywords you want and the affiliate link, it will automatically change all those keywords found on your entire blog into affiliate links.

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confetti 16 years ago

As a long-time fan of Brian Johnson's courses, I was very interested to see what might be new and useable in the updated version of ACC. (I had bought the 2 previous versions, and thought there was a lot of missing pieces.)

After I watched through all of the new ACC videos, I was unimpressed. I might be interested in building and flipping sites, but batch buying of domains is beyond my budget at this time. That is not to say that there isn't a lot more in ACC, just not a lot that's useable for me at this time.

It was Commission Ritual that really turned on the lights for me (a relative newbie). ACC and SEO Press Formula didn't really explain everything totally, they left me with a lot of (unanswered) questions. Commission Ritual really started at the very beginning and explained how to build WP sites and add content. It was very easy to follow. Brian's easygoing teaching method is supurb. I'm so thankful that I finally learned to build websites.

Now I love LOVE building sites. I even almost don't mind writing content (it gets easier as time goes on). Brian was very big about only using original content, so this switch to automated content and article spinning is rather disappointing. But let's be honest, we are all here to make money! You better believe I'm going to try some sites with rewritten Yahoo answers and AdSense just to see.

Probably best is a mixutre of original articles, auto content, you tube videos, cloaked affiliate links, and useful outbound links - makes the most sense.

From CommRit I thoroughly understood that I need to crank out lots of sites, and that they each will only make a small amount each day (some more, some less). I have about 70 sites and about 60% of them are on page one. (Some of them are nowhere to be found.) That's just how it is with free SEO. So I build more sites! I can crank out a site in 2 hours easy.

So for those of you wondering which to do first, I highly recommend Commision Ritual for thorough basic training. After that, ACC can give you additional ideas to implement.

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  Why create a crap site? That is the question. When I create an Auto Blog, my first thought is "How can I make this a value added resource?".
  
  Why? Profits. You can make more money from these sites if the content is planned around several categories and you add in content that is useful to the visitors. There are Plugins that can do a much better job and I get Review requests at my site almost every other day.
  
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  Cheers Mike, but why pay $47 when there's others out there for free?
  
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  Cheers Mike, but why pay $47 when there's others out there for free?
  
  is there something extra special about this plugin to warrant the $47 price tag?
  
  No not really, but it pulls in the best "related" results that I have seen. It uses the content and keywords from your posts pretty effectively. It acts like a related posts plugin with your post and it is a very basic plugin. I got it for free so I can't complain.
  
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askloz

16 years ago

nice one, i'll check that out... thanks

Originally Posted by AnilK

Nearly - the closest I have seen to doing this is WP Unique. If you enter the keywords you want and the affiliate link, it will automatically change all those keywords found on your entire blog into affiliate links.

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16 years ago

I'm none too happy about your using the emotive term 'thieving' in this context.

My understanding is that this type of program sets up sites using material that has been made available for syndication by its author. Articles from article directories, Amazon and Ebay feeds, YouTube videos with an embed code and RSS feeds have all been set up that way because the content owner wants you to use them.

That's very different from the sort of 'scraping' used in programs such as Ranking Power and Traffic Equalizer a few years ago.

The only potentially dubious item I can see is Yahoo News - but I know almost nothing about that.

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DannyUK

16 years ago

Originally Posted by pearsonbrown

I'm none too happy about your using the emotive term 'thieving' in this context.

My understanding is that this type of program sets up sites using material that has been made available for syndication by its author. Articles from article directories, Amazon and Ebay feeds, YouTube videos with an embed code and RSS feeds have all been set up that way because the content owner wants you to use them.

That's very different from the sort of 'scraping' used in programs such as Ranking Power and Traffic Equalizer a few years ago.

The only potentially dubious item I can see is Yahoo News - but I know almost nothing about that.

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Hi Pearson,

Taken from the Yahoo (UK) terms:

10. NO RESALE OF SERVICE
You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion of the Services, use of the Services, or access to the Services.

Taken from Yahoo RSS terms of use (UK):

The feeds are provided free of charge for use by individuals and non-profit organizations for personal, non-commercial uses. We ask that you provide attribution to Yahoo! News in connection with your use of the feeds.

Taken from YouTube's terms of use:

you agree not to use or launch any automated system (including, without limitation, any robot, spider or offline reader) that accesses the Website in a manner that sends more request messages to the YouTube servers in a given period of time than a human can reasonably produce in the same period by using a publicly available, standard (i.e. not modified) web browser;

And...

you agree not to access User Videos (as defined below) for any reason other than your personal, non-commercial use solely as intended through and permitted by the normal functionality of the Services, and solely for Streaming. "Streaming" means a contemporaneous digital transmission of the material by YouTube via the Internet to a user operated Internet enabled device in such a manner that the data is intended for real-time viewing and not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user.

But you are right in that I should have made a clear distinction between protected and non-protected material. Yes I accept, if an author grants open permission for anybody to use material for commercial purposes then there's no problem copying it, modifying it, whatever.

It's the cases where permission has not been granted. What else would you call it when a person takes something that does not belong to him and then uses it for personal financial gain. If the term "theft" is too strong, which euphemism would you suggest?

Again, I'm not naive, I'm well aware the majority of martketers will have stuck the odd embedded YouTube video on one of their blog pages. I've done it myself. And I guess in principle one infringement is ideologically as bad as a thousand so I'm guilty.

Right now, in all bar the most blatant cases, YouTube and Yahoo and all the other providers are turning a blind eye. The whole thing is very lightly regulated, apart from the music/ video download battle.

But if these auto-spamming tools like Auto Content Cash catch on and become widely distributed then the balance will have to shift. If for no other reason than server load and bandwidth usage, the major networks will have to act.

The end result will be all of us losing out simply because of a growing crowd that wants the reward but isn't prepared to earn it. If that's okay with you then I respect your opinion, all I'm saying is I don't agree with it and it's not okay with me.

Brian Johnson also talked about a RSS reader/ content spinner on his call with James Jones. The idea is you take in any RSS feed, auto-spin the text and auto-publish it as your own content. Now I'm assuming nobody has the inclination to defend this type of tool? It's not part of the initial ACC release, so is it coming later or was Brian confused about what the plugins actually do?

Imagine it, within 15 minutes of you crafting your latest optimised blog post it has been stolen and spammed to an uncountable number of blogs and directories. Is that acceptable? To anyone? In effect you'd be acting as an unpaid writer for an army of spammers. And it's a well established marketing team promoting this as a great idea! Which brings me back to my central point.

You can see that something is wrong here. Surely?

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16 years ago

Now you're getting crazy.

One of themost popular auto blogging tools around, WP Robot, pulls content from Yahoo Answers, YouTube, ArticlesBase, Amazon, Ebay, RSS Feeds, and Clickbank.

Credit and or terms of service are recognized with each posting of this content. Do you think these information sources don't know these tools are pulling thier content? Yahoo knows (the information is pulled via their Developer API Network), Ebay supports tools like phpBay, Amazon supports ReviewAZON and phpZON, ArticlesBase allows it if the Author information is acknowledged. EzineArticles will allow 25 articles per day to be published. All RSS Feeds have a link back to the original article as per the everyday trackback/ pingback blog syndication protocols.

So be sure you know what you are talking about. There are people who use black hat techniques to scrape content and use it without acknowledgement, and there are the auto blogging tools that 95% of regular Auto Bloggers use.

Taking content and organizing it in a manner that benefits visitors is not uncommon and it doesn't matter if someone else has done it or not. There are 100 Million websites competing with each other and multiple ideas are being copied and used over and over again. Free enterprise.

For example: If I create an auto blog that publishes the most recent trends and entertainment news and it picks up and publishes the latest news form 30 different entertainment networks, that site is value added and it can, will, and does (in the case of 5 sites I have like this) receive a lot of visitors and RSS Subscribers and it makes money. Ironically, this is the same thing that Reuters has been doing for decades. Repopulating every news service's content through their service. In essense the first Auto Blogging Network right?

A value added service is easy to create, from a Dog training site with tons of Dog Training tips, to a Technical SUpport Auto Blog that consolidates every tech support question ever asked about Windows and now you have a one stop resource for visitors to use. You have to understand what you are talking about before you consider that there are "no" ways to auto blog that are Value added.

You just have to have the right training and I provide that.

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DannyUK

16 years ago

Originally Posted by mick535

Now you're getting crazy.

One of themost popular auto blogging tools around, WP Robot, pulls content from Yahoo Answers, YouTube, ArticlesBase, Amazon, Ebay, RSS Feeds, and Clickbank.

Credit and or terms of service are recognized with each posting of this content. Do you think these information sources don't know these tools are pulling thier content? Yahoo knows (the information is pulled via their Developer API Network), Ebay supports tools like phpBay, Amazon supports ReviewAZON and phpZON, ArticlesBase allows it if the Author information is acknowledged. EzineArticles will allow 25 articles per day to be published. All RSS Feeds have a link back to the original article as per the everyday trackback/ pingback blog syndication protocols.

So be sure you know what you are talking about. There are people who use black hat techniques to scrape content and use it without acknowledgement, and there are the auto blogging tools that 95% of regular Auto Bloggers use.

Taking content and organizing it in a manner that benefits visitors is not uncommon and it doesn't matter if someone else has done it or not. There are 100 Million websites competing with each other and multiple ideas are being copied and used over and over again. Free enterprise.

For example: If I create an auto blog that publishes the most recent trends and entertainment news and it picks up and publishes the latest news form 30 different entertainment networks, that site is value added and it can, will, and does (in the case of 5 sites I have like this) receive a lot of visitors and RSS Subscribers and it makes money. Ironically, this is the same thing that Reuters has been doing for decades. Repopulating every news service's content through their service. In essense the first Auto Blogging Network right?

A value added service is easy to create, from a Dog training site with tons of Dog Training tips, to a Technical SUpport Auto Blog that consolidates every tech support question ever asked about Windows and now you have a one stop resource for visitors to use. You have to understand what you are talking about before you consider that there are "no" ways to auto blog that are Value added.

You just have to have the right training and I provide that.

Mike

Okay, deep breath! Yes, I do get heated up about content theft and yes that heat can generate flames which aren't useful. You've put together a thoughtful response which I appreciate, but I still don't agree with you on the main issues.

You imply I don't know what I'm talking about but, on the other hand, you've made things a little murky yourself by dragging together several different types of content (some of which are meant to be automated) and applying that "value" tag again.

Of course you use automated methods to pull in information from Amazon and eBay. That's the very purpose of those services. But they are a million miles from the RSS scraper in WPRobot, for example. So much so that the developers of WPRobot issue the following statement in their pitch:

Please note all RSS feeds may be copyrighted by the respective owner and/or be subject to other usage restriction. Usage of every RSS feed with WP Robot on your own risk.

So they provide a commercial tool for scraping any RSS feed, copyrighted or otherwise, and then wash their hands of the consequences with a disclaimer.

This is taken from the feature list:

Posts the full article of the RSS feed (and not just a short description) if available!... If the module finds any it will also add all the comments available in the RSS feed (i.e. for Wordpress blog feeds).

So what we have is a tool that targets and scrapes on autopilot based on keyword searching and then lifts third party content and places it on another, non-associated web site. All without the original author's permission or even knowledge in most cases.

The justification for this is what? You get a free back-link on the content thief's site? You get your name stuck on a site that's filled with other stolen content? Are these really value added benefits to the victim?

Even with Yahoo News and Yahoo Answers, if you check the terms it's clear you cannot use their content for commercial purposes - even if you do access it via the API. The API is not a legal remedy, it's simply a software interface for retrieving information.

As I've already said, I agree the major providers turn a blind eye and allow this to happen. I'm not even complaining about this to any degree. What I'm saying is that if well known marketers start advocating these methods then more and more people will start using them. I view that as extremely negative and undesirable.

To be honest, so should you. It may be you use scraped content in a structured and skilled manner, maybe the end result you produce really does add value for your users. I'll take a step back and assume you do. But I don't believe for a moment you can achieve this by using tools like Auto Content Cash. I own this product, I've tested it. Leaving all the other content aside and focusing on the auto-blogging tools, ACC is a recipe for producing a growing stream of garbage if run on auto-pilot as the developers claim is possible. There's zero value in any of the stuff it produces - have you used it?

In my tests I ran the plugins on the keyword 'life insurance' and targeted it to the UK. It was comical how poor the results were, with 95% of the material specific to the US and the majority not even related to the keyword at all. Okay, I know this is a tough test but that's why I set it - as a proper examination of this system. Not all of us are in weight-loss and dog-training niches, after all.

ACC failed the test on all counts. There was no quality there whatsoever and I would be ashamed and embarrassed to put my name under such a site.

If your product is better (and I'll buy it and test it and review it) then well done, though it wouldn't be hard to trump ACC. Personally I can't envisage any sort of auto-pilot tool that could possibly do a decent job without at least a degree of human intervention. And there certainly isn't one out there that phones up the content author and asks for permission before scraping content!

I'd be interested to know where you get your 95% white hat content scrapers/ 5% black hat statistics from. You're implying 95% of auto-bloggers know what they are doing and are judiciously using the tools at their disposal. I find that hard to believe. Do you have solid data? For example, is 95% of the WPRobot RSS feed user base paying careful attention to that disclaimer I quoted?

Anyway, we could go round and round on this and never agree. I'm 100% confident that taking something that belongs to somebody else without their permission is theft. Just as I know it's fine when you have the owner's permission.

I hope these tools don't proliferate. And anyone interested in ACC should get Commission Ritual instead, which gives you just about everything ACC provides minus the virtually useless plugins.

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16 years ago

As with any product, it needs to be looked at objectively. Personally I wouldn't take any "system" and copy it completely. Rather, I find 'Gems" of info or a good tool that I can work into my existing business.
While certainly I can see the opportunity for folks to use this "system" to create crap, it can also be used to add value to an interest for the end user, there was a great example in a previous post. There are a ton of "automation" tools that could easily be labeled as a tool for creation of spam/trash, but this doesn't make them bad tools.
I have purchased this product, and many many other over the years. I am not scared to ask for a refund when I think the product is garbage. I don't intend on asking for a refund for this product. I think it has a huge amount of information and it is well laid out. But as I say, with any product, take it all with a grain of salt, there are a lot of "ideas" out there being shared.
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StoneCS

16 years ago

I have to chime in on this after reading for the better part of an hour. I read all the first page, but had to skip some of the BS on page 2. I'm amazed by how many people on these forums are so quick to bash someone, without ever seeing their site or just from a peek.

I'm not sure who it was that said they bought this and already asked for a refund because there was nothing new in it. That was posted about 36 hours after launch. I find it hard to believe you had time to go through 100 videos and maybe 15-20 PDF's in that short of time.

I'll admit, I've seen a lot of it too. I've followed the 30 day challenge the last 2 years and they taught a lot of similar stuff, as well as, more in the way of SEO & linking strategies, all for free. But, I have only watched a few videos so far and already found a couple useful ideas I haven't come across before, in over 3 years of studying IM non-stop.

I was actually brutally pre-sold on this by Michael Rasmussen. He got 10 of Alex & Saj P's previous products together, with the upgrade videos, as a bonus. So I really didn't need to look at ACC before buying. Two of those bonuses I wanted were $77 and $97 more for the upsells, so it was a no brainer.

I'm still glad I got ACC too though. I don't believe in 100% automated, set and forget blogs either, but I don't see the harm in using Answers and Youtube content to beef up these little micro-niche blogs either, especially for Adsense.

As long as you mix in your own stuff and moderate the garbage coming from Answers and some of the retarded comments attached to the videos.

I believe it's more than enough value for the price, for most people at least, but it never bad to get a killer bonus while you're at it.

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CanuckWarrior

16 years ago

Commission Ritual gave me a lot of great ideas that I put my own spin on (and no I don't mean content spinners) to make some quality micro sites. It really helped me clarify my action plan for this year.

So based on my positive experience with CR, I bought ACC hoping that it would show me how to streamline my CR inspired micro sites. However, so far, although it does show how to bang sites together in record time, the results seem to be a step backwards in quality.

I confess that I'm not exactly Mr. Guru when it comes to site building, but I have experienced the wrath of Google on crappy sites/lenses, etc., and the love of Google on quality content. They are polar opposites.

So based on what I've watched so far (haven't finished watching all the videos yet), I'm tending toward sticking with my CR inspired site model rather than the ACC site style. The ACC plug-in generated sites just look spammy to me. And based on what I've experienced in the past, I'd feel more comfortable putting my efforts into quality.

Anyway, I'll reserve final judgment until I finish all the material, but so far, ACC is just not giving me the light bulb moments that CR did.

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markd16

16 years ago

Yes, I have the course. Being a previous buyer of Brian's I got an offer of a 2 day special. I have to tell you that this course is the bomb. I have some sites that are on page 1 of google and felt I could do better in the traffic department.

This course does it all. I canceled adept mage and all other memberships.

I am truly humbled what Brian has done here. If you know everything about automation/ wordpress / seo / certain type of plug in combinations / mass developing sites , meaning you can build a site less than 1 hour, then you don't need this course.

I didn't do the upsells as I am just missing a few parts to make this my full time job.

IN SHORT...Buy IT.
Beware, this is a massive course.
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16 years ago

Even with Yahoo News and Yahoo Answers, if you check the terms it's clear you cannot use their content for commercial purposes - even if you do access it via the API. The API is not a legal remedy, it's simply a software interface for retrieving information.

If this is such a big terms violation, why no lawsuits?

I know of several big marketers making money with this and the plugin creators are making money off them. In the video about the Answers plugin, he describes the little disclaimer feature. It puts a little link at the bottom, saying "Powered by Yahoo Answers".

You can set it to a link or just text or remove it. He said that's one of Yahoo's conditions if you're using their content. Obviously, they have addressed this issue, for that to be in the plugin. Wouldn't you think? B)>

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mick535 16 years ago

DannyUK:

I agree with you about ACC, just read back in the thread and you will see, I amnot writing this stuff in support of it, I think it will make Newbies think they have hit Gold, unitl they really try to use it. Like you said, the content these Plugins produce isn't passing any test.

Markd16:

Sorry man, but if you think you have hit gold with this course, you might want to rethink and temper your comments until you actually see some results, but I think I already know what will happen here. Good luck to you. Hopefully you can make something from nothing here.

ACC is not a Wordpress and SEO "Expert" product and most of us who are (or at least think we are) Wordpress and SEO experts can see the failings of this course instantly. It is just like buying a used car, sometimes it takes a mechanic to see what is wrong because on the outside it looks perfect.

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JeromyS

16 years ago

This is an amusing back and forth.
ACC is $77.....what do you expect? To believe that this is the next Golden Carrot is just silly. Frank Kern has a new launch, makes more sense to go silly over that. This is a bunch of videos, some good tips, some perhaps not. A few plugins, some themes, etc. For the price the info is fine. As a system to make a significant income from all by itself...Some people problably will. But the smartest thing to do with any product is to look at it objectively. Don't get caught up in the "hype". This product is just another product. Not the cream of the crop, but still worth the price point and still some useful info. Let the newbies get excited, they'll learn soon enough. If its not ACC, it another product that folks are calling the next best thing.

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