Opinion requested :) My first Clickbank serious site.

by Omix
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Hi!

I've finished my first "serious" site for promoting a clickbank product. I've tried to success on clickbank other times, with test landing pages, ppc, etc, but I want to start something more solid and for long-term bussiness, with mail list, etc , so ... I started Modern Guitar Method | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarists by Toni Lloret

I have to work hard now for traffic, backlinks, articles, etc, but... do you think it will convert with the actual design?? should i add an articles section where upload the same articles i will send to directories?

Many thanks in advance!
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Many thanks for your opinions!

      I wanted to transmit the quality of the product, and i think that offering the demo download to the list suscriptors is a good idea for that.

      Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Originally Posted by Omix View Post

    Hi!

    I've finished my first "serious" site for promoting a clickbank product. I've tried to success on clickbank other times, with test landing pages, ppc, etc, but I want to start something more solid and for long-term bussiness, with mail list, etc , so ... I started Toni Lloret Ebook | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarists

    I have to work hard now for traffic, backlinks, articles, etc, but... do you think it will convert with the actual design?? should i add an articles section where upload the same articles i will send to directories?

    Many thanks in advance!
    Just checked but if not mistaken

    1) Your site is a replica of the Vendors site
    2) I think you need to check with the vendor if you allowed to offer his demo to a list as he offers it but with no optin

    It might be an idea to contact the vendor as well and ask him if you allowed to copy his site

    Vendors site: Toni Lloret | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarrists
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      The vendor is my guitar teacher. I made both websites, vendor's site uses an early version of the design for his Clickbank site without optin list, so.. both sites are mine.
      Demo version is customized for my site, with my page links on it, there's no problem

      From my site the product can be bought without visiting the vendor's site, so i think that there is no problem about the similar website design.

      Do you think it will be better re-designing the vendor's site?

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Love the videos! = )

    I like your site, but I think the copy could use a little tweaking. I however am no copy writer so take what I say with a grain of salt.

    but...

    First thing I'd suggest doing is taking that 300 pages, 350 videos statement and putting it right under your headline.

    I'd change:

    Book to Guide
    Customers to Students

    Might I suggest changing the following:

    The Spanish guitarist Toni Lloret has developed a new guitar method book that enables you to achieve control of more advanced guitar techniques like alternate picking, legato, sweep picking, tapping & more, optimizing their study time!

    To:

    The Spanish guitarist Toni Lloret has developed a new guitar method that enables you to achieve {control over more} or {mastery over} advanced guitar techniques like:
    • alternate picking,
    • legato, sweep picking,
    • tapping
    • Cords
    • Scales
    • Transitions
    • Bridges
    • and many more!
    And this:

    If your playing resources are now limited, or you have no new ideas for your solos and improvisations, if you notice that does not advance much in your guitar technique even when you are playing every day ...
    then you definitely need this modern guitar method book!

    To:

    If your playing time is limited, or you are struggling new ideas for solos and improvisations, or if your feel as if your not advancing your guitar technique even whole playing every day ...
    then you definitely need this modern guitar method guide!

    That's my input! Hope it helps
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Love the videos! = )

      I like your site, but I think the copy could use a little tweaking. I however am no copy writer so take what I say with a grain of salt.

      but...

      First thing I'd suggest doing is taking that 300 pages, 350 videos statement and putting it right under your headline.

      I'd change:

      Book to Guide
      Customers to Students

      Might I suggest changing the following:

      The Spanish guitarist Toni Lloret has developed a new guitar method book that enables you to achieve control of more advanced guitar techniques like alternate picking, legato, sweep picking, tapping & more, optimizing their study time!

      To:

      The Spanish guitarist Toni Lloret has developed a new guitar method that enables you to achieve {control over more} or {mastery over} advanced guitar techniques like:
      • alternate picking,
      • legato, sweep picking,
      • tapping
      • Cords
      • Scales
      • Transitions
      • Bridges
      • and many more!
      And this:

      If your playing resources are now limited, or you have no new ideas for your solos and improvisations, if you notice that does not advance much in your guitar technique even when you are playing every day ...
      then you definitely need this modern guitar method book!

      To:

      If your playing time is limited, or you are struggling new ideas for solos and improvisations, or if your feel as if your not advancing your guitar technique even whole playing every day ...
      then you definitely need this modern guitar method guide!

      That's my input! Hope it helps
      Many thanks! i'll study that changes right now!
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        My suggestions have a couple of typo's and mistakes so make sure if you use my changes to check it twice. hehe

        But thanks for the vote!

        Originally Posted by Omix View Post

        Many thanks! i'll study that changes right now!
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  • Profile picture of the author ecdavis
    Omix,

    Hi. I also really like your site. Although I don't think it would hurt to add articles, you might consider installing a blog either in a subdirectory or on a subdomain that would point exclusively to the main site. That would allow you to leverage the power of additional rss feeds, blog content, blog comments and other social interactivity along with expanded social networking and bookmarking possibilites.

    Evan
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    • Profile picture of the author brettmwindmann
      Hey,

      I would def change the price of your ebook to $27. I know that is a simple change but I think it looks better and will sell better.
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      • Profile picture of the author Omix
        Originally Posted by brettmwindmann View Post

        Hey,

        I would def change the price of your ebook to $27. I know that is a simple change but I think it looks better and will sell better.
        Hi!

        I would never have thought of that! Do you think that price ending in 7 influences on the customers purchase intention?

        Thanks in advance!
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by ecdavis View Post

      Omix,

      Hi. I also really like your site. Although I don't think it would hurt to add articles, you might consider installing a blog either in a subdirectory or on a subdomain that would point exclusively to the main site. That would allow you to leverage the power of additional rss feeds, blog content, blog comments and other social interactivity along with expanded social networking and bookmarking possibilites.

      Evan
      Yeah, that's a great idea too

      A blog in a subdomain its great for publishing the articles i'll send to directories, aswell as any other valuable information for guitarists.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    I like it, but you may want to give your iste a more "professional" feel. It looks a bit dull but a polish would make it much cleaner, if you know what I mean. You may also want to give a squeeze page a try for sending PPC traffic to and sell to that list. You'll get more subscribers than sending them directly to the salescopy.

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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      I like it, but you may want to give your iste a more "professional" feel. It looks a bit dull but a polish would make it much cleaner, if you know what I mean. You may also want to give a squeeze page a try for sending PPC traffic to and sell to that list. You'll get more subscribers than sending them directly to the salescopy.

      Nick
      Hi Nick,

      I know what you mean. I'm now preparing a revision for the header logos and some icons for the navigation bar that i think will give a new feeling for the site
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    $27 seems ridiculously cheap.

    You will struggle to find affilaites even at 75%

    You have what appears to be a product with a lot of content.

    I would split test sales volume vs revenue as high as $77

    Often price dictates quality perception.

    You're offering a huge amount for the price of a family trip to McDonalds.

    +230 audio examples & +355 Video Examples!

    I would place the nav bar at the bottom of the site not the top personally.

    Headline could possibly do with some work, you could stick to tried and true such as:

    Who Want's To Discover How To Play Guitar Like The Revolutionary Toni Lloret

    ( i know nothing about guitar or Toni Loret, I don't know if he's a big name, but if he's not you may like to include a really good set of benefits under the title as to why they would want to play like him)

    I would invest $100 and get somebody to make you a really proffessional CD / E-Report Montage, multiple CDs perhaps numbered, right now it looks like low grade graphics for the product, you can do a lot better for little cost.

    Think about how you can montage all they get into a single image.

    CD's
    Manuals - split the manuals into modules if need be, use a spiral bound effect for your market, it's congruent with how music is delivered in hard format.
    Videos can be shown using a movie top/bottom effect or show them on a monitor.

    Creativity is an issue here, you selling something "virtual", images make it tangible.

    Really like your use of lightbox on the screen shots, excellent idea actually.

    I would however actually put some verbiage by the screen shots saying "Click to View" or Click To Enlarge"

    First time I scanned the page I didn't even realise I could see them larger.

    The blue arrow usage to continue the eye moving down the page is well used, very Ryan Deiss, I like it and it does work.

    Remove the link to the interview (it's a bad thing to take anybody away from your primary sales message) I would consider adding that in your prospect Autoresponder .

    Personally I'm still NOT a fan of using Youtube videos on sales copy. I think personally it's a BIG mistake for the following reasons.

    1) Other people's ads show in the videos - I don't have to elaborate on that.
    2) People click to youtube.com to see the "bigger version" and leave your site.
    3) When it ends you get associated videos (you can resolve that with 30 seconds of black footage) .

    Overall bad idea IMO, to much leakage .

    Try audio acrobat or convert them to a normal flash player and store them locally.

    You have no upsell in the process once they click order.

    Leaving cash on the table.

    Find something you can upsell, contact somebody with a product you feel they would be interested in if you don't have anything yourself.

    Hell you could split the audio from the videos and offer them as an upsell.

    Call it the "IPOD/MP3" Deluxe Edition.

    Get somebody to make you a nice graphic with multiple CD's in a montage.

    Overall I think it's solid, you can make improvements in my opinion but good luck to you, it looks overall pretty decent.

    I think you're massively undervaluing the product however.
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    Looks very decent, i would buy from your site
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      This is very confusing thread this. The vendors site according to CB is

      Toni Lloret | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarrists

      Now the OP's site that have a affiliate link on it is

      Modern Guitar Method | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarists by Toni Lloret

      Everybody is telling him how to change the prices etc. and he replies back but he appears to be an affiliate and not the owner of the product.

      Am I missing something here?
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      • Profile picture of the author Omix
        Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

        This is very confusing thread this. The vendors site according to CB is

        Toni Lloret | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarrists

        Now the OP's site that have a affiliate link on it is

        Modern Guitar Method | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarists by Toni Lloret

        Everybody is telling him how to change the prices etc. and he replies back but he appears to be an affiliate and not the owner of the product.

        Am I missing something here?
        Hi!

        The product itself is from my guitar teacher I made his & my site.
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        • Profile picture of the author theimdude
          Originally Posted by Omix View Post

          Hi!

          The product itself is from my guitar teacher I made his & my site.
          I understand now

          For starters your opt in don't work as I subscribed and still waiting (over 1 hour) On the http://www.tonilloretbook.com/ site the sample download don't work either.
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          • Profile picture of the author Omix
            Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

            I understand now

            For starters your opt in don't work as I subscribed and still waiting (over 1 hour) On the Toni Lloret | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarrists site the sample download don't work either.
            that's strange, i'm receiving some subscriptions from getresponse, and i've tested with a gmail account and it's working :confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author theimdude
              Originally Posted by Omix View Post

              that's strange, i'm receiving some subscriptions from getresponse, and i've tested with a gmail account and it's working :confused:
              manage to get it working after the 3 try. Maybe the problem is my side. I downloaded the samples. I see the videos are very small. Why did you do it so small (the size - not length)
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              • Profile picture of the author Omix
                Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

                manage to get it working after the 3 try. Maybe the problem is my side. I downloaded the samples. I see the videos are very small. Why did you do it so small (the size - not length)
                Videos are 352x240 ... i cant do anything about that, the book was already done
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                • Profile picture of the author DonFinch
                  Okay, I guess I am going to go a little against the grain here.

                  I think the product is great, heck I would even buy it my self!
                  But I do think the site is flawed in it's copy. There are a number of grammatical errors on the page where letters are missing and even words.
                  (Grammar Police: My post is not the subject here, the question was about the site!)

                  Although I think you have had a really good go at this I think you should maybe let a Copywriter take a look and just give it that 'WOW' factor.

                  It is just lacking something...

                  I personally would not use such a large opt-in box, but if you are going to collect names using a big box like that, make some use of it, GRAB the readers attention, make them believe that what they are getting for free is worth it. Gone are the days of just sticking something on your website as a freebie and people will give you their details - now you even have to SELL the stuff your giving away for FREE!

                  If you are going to go down the big opt-in box (and I strongly recommend you do not!) then maybe fill it with something like...
                  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  "After a lot of persuading, Toni has FINALLY allowed me to offer a 'FREE' trial so students can experience for themselves this totally unique guitar method immediately."


                  "I don't know how long I can persuade him to keep this open so grab your FREE...


                  7 ... 9 ... 11 Guitar Exercises


                  RIGHT NOW!!"


                  To receive you're totally FREE sample of Toni's method, fill in your First Name and your primary email address and I'll do the rest... while I am still allowed!!
                  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  Now I came up with that in a couple of minutes but you get the idea and if you put your mind to it then the ideas will come. Sell it to them!!

                  On the subject of cost, a few on here have mentioned how cheap this product is. I have to agree with them. You could split this up and make a back end product.

                  I would recommend that you split it up, make your front end offer that gives great value and then funnel your prospects into a larger part of the product at a greater price as a back end and then onto a 'low-ish' monthly subscription where they get a NEW video (done by you and Toni each month or do a load over a weekend) that teaches them a new rift every single month. Load it into your autoresponder - CASH every month!

                  People would bite your hand off for this product if you get the sales page sorted, and by that I mean clear up the 'two offer sites' issues, clean up the copy on the site you chose to keep, do that and I think your on to a winner!

                  Great job, good luck!

                  Anyway, these are just my thoughts...

                  Don Finch
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                  • Profile picture of the author Omix
                    Originally Posted by DonFinch View Post


                    Although I think you have had a really good go at this I think you should maybe let a Copywriter take a look and just give it that 'WOW' factor.

                    I personally would not use such a large opt-in box, but if you are going to collect names using a big box like that, make some use of it, GRAB the readers attention, make them believe that what they are getting for free is worth it. Gone are the days of just sticking something on your website as a freebie and people will give you their details - now you even have to SELL the stuff your giving away for FREE!
                    Thanks Don, i know there are some gramma mistakes... i'm spanish and i'm not as good in english as i want I have to hire a copywriter to take a look and make the hype appear

                    I'll take a look to the optin box too, i think your idea will grab the attention of the reader 100% more than actual box ...

                    Thanks!!
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                    • Profile picture of the author deertrail
                      Be careful.

                      Google doesn't like duplicate sites, even if you designed both of them.

                      If you or your teacher want to promote either site with AdWords, you should make sure the sites look significantly different.

                      I think you might do better with a more ghetto affiliate site, anyways. You have a GREAT angle being his student.

                      I'd test a more ghetto site that basically says "Hey, my guitar teacher just put together a guitar course that rocks." Then tell them how they can get it at a discount, or on a trial basis, etc. if they buy it through your site, since you know the vendor.

                      To really sweeten the pot, create a bonus that compliments the course and give that to people that buy through your link, too.

                      My $.02.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dave009
          Hello Best of luck to you on the site I think that with all the experienced advice here
          you should do very well.

          I'd like to throw my hat in the ring and suggest split testing:

          Price points ie: $77. as the lowest and $97. as the highest

          the easiest way to split test is with the Google tool

          Website Optimizer is free and you get results

          As to the price there is nothing wrong with being on the high side of a valuable product.

          Plug the holes in the site for visitors to escape and you'll be well on your way

          Rock 'em dude
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Omix, something that struck me was the many ways potential customers can leave your site - and you lose a sale. OOps!

    For example, when the video on the bottom left plays, I get Google Ads across the bottom of the video advertising other sites. This could take readers and sales away from you.

    And in other videos the tonilloret dot net URL is displayed. That could take readers and sales away from you.

    The fact that the videos are on Youtube makes it soooooo easy for your visitor to go surf Youtube instead of purchasing from you. Another sale lost!

    Since Toni is your teacher, can you get access to the original videos so you can host them somewhere like Viddler or Screencast or S3 to display them on your site without the other Ads?

    Better yet, will Toni let you record a short video or two for your site instead of you using the Youtube videos?

    As I watch Tony shred in those video I am wondering what method Toni will use to teach me those riffs. Will Toni let you put a small portion of a video from one of the lessons on your site? Again without using Youtube, to show exactly how he will teach me.

    You have direct access to Toni which should put you way ahead of any other affiliates he acquires because you can make your site have unique videos.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

      $27 seems ridiculously cheap.

      I would split test sales volume vs revenue as high as $77

      Often price dictates quality perception.

      You're offering a huge amount for the price of a family trip to McDonalds.

      +230 audio examples & +355 Video Examples!

      I would place the nav bar at the bottom of the site not the top personally.

      Headline could possibly do with some work, you could stick to tried and true such as:

      Who Want's To Discover How To Play Guitar Like The Revolutionary Toni Lloret

      ( i know nothing about guitar or Toni Loret, I don't know if he's a big name, but if he's not you may like to include a really good set of benefits under the title as to why they would want to play like him)

      I would invest $100 and get somebody to make you a really proffessional CD / E-Report Montage, multiple CDs perhaps numbered, right now it looks like low grade graphics for the product, you can do a lot better for little cost.

      Think about how you can montage all they get into a single image.

      CD's
      Manuals - split the manuals into modules if need be, use a spiral bound effect for your market, it's congruent with how music is delivered in hard format.
      Videos can be shown using a movie top/bottom effect or show them on a monitor.

      Creativity is an issue here, you selling something "virtual", images make it tangible.

      Really like your use of lightbox on the screen shots, excellent idea actually.

      I would however actually put some verbiage by the screen shots saying "Click to View" or Click To Enlarge"

      First time I scanned the page I didn't even realise I could see them larger.

      The blue arrow usage to continue the eye moving down the page is well used, very Ryan Deiss, I like it and it does work.

      Remove the link to the interview (it's a bad thing to take anybody away from your primary sales message) I would consider adding that in your prospect Autoresponder .

      Personally I'm still NOT a fan of using Youtube videos on sales copy. I think personally it's a BIG mistake for the following reasons.

      1) Other people's ads show in the videos - I don't have to elaborate on that.
      2) People click to youtube.com to see the "bigger version" and leave your site.
      3) When it ends you get associated videos (you can resolve that with 30 seconds of black footage) .

      Overall bad idea IMO, to much leakage .

      Try audio acrobat or convert them to a normal flash player and store them locally.

      You have no upsell in the process once they click order.

      Leaving cash on the table.

      Find something you can upsell, contact somebody with a product you feel they would be interested in if you don't have anything yourself.

      Hell you could split the audio from the videos and offer them as an upsell.

      Call it the "IPOD/MP3" Deluxe Edition.

      Get somebody to make you a nice graphic with multiple CD's in a montage.

      Overall I think it's solid, you can make improvements in my opinion but good luck to you, it looks overall pretty decent.

      I think you're massively undervaluing the product however.
      Thanks Simon! Many valuable information in your post!
      You're right about the price, i talked about that with the vendor time ago. I'll try to convince him to test with a higher price.

      I'll convert videos to flash and play them directly from my server, i have the original ones, so there's no problem about that.

      Thanks!

      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Omix, something that struck me was the many ways potential customers can leave your site - and you lose a sale. OOps!

      For example, when the video on the bottom left plays, I get Google Ads across the bottom of the video advertising other sites. This could take readers and sales away from you.

      And in other videos the tonilloret dot net URL is displayed. That could take readers and sales away from you.

      The fact that the videos are on Youtube makes it soooooo easy for your visitor to go surf Youtube instead of purchasing from you. Another sale lost!

      Since Toni is your teacher, can you get access to the original videos so you can host them somewhere like Viddler or Screencast or S3 to display them on your site without the other Ads?

      Better yet, will Toni let you record a short video or two for your site instead of you using the Youtube videos?

      As I watch Tony shred in those video I am wondering what method Toni will use to teach me those riffs. Will Toni let you put a small portion of a video from one of the lessons on your site? Again without using Youtube, to show exactly how he will teach me.

      You have direct access to Toni which should put you way ahead of any other affiliates he acquires because you can make your site have unique videos.

      :-Don
      Thanks Don You're totally right about youtube, like Simon on the previous post. Is very easy to leave the website to youtube or click on any ads from the video.

      I'll ask Toni for a more personal videos, with something only i can bring to my subscriptors or visitors, thats a great idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Might be handy if people read existing responses.

    This trend of simply regurgitating the same data already given just clutters the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author kocengkuning
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    wow..
    it is great..
    could you tell me how you build it?
    please PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author Edk
    I like the Free Guitar Lesson bit. Find a way to make that more prominent. Also the guitarist is blue on blue so obviously doesn't stand out. Also my understanding is that the Search Engines that matter - and maybe some that don't! - will love you more if you have a Privacy Policy and I think, not quite sure on this last, a Site Map as well. Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Hey Omix, another thought came to me.

    When I read about Toni being a Spanish guitarist the first thing that came to mind was Spanish classical guitar music - Sor, Albeniz, Tarrega or Flemenco guitar... not modern - not rock.

    Here in the USA, classical guitar or Flemenco guitar is what will usually come to mind as soon as you say, "Spanish" guitarist.

    And easy and impressive way to get around this is to have a very short 5 to 10 second audio of Toni shredding wildly - ending on a chord. Keep it short so people can then read the Website.

    This short, impressive lick by Toni will pull any guitar student into the Website. It's that sudden "Wow!" factor. And this will immediately remove any thoughts of the stereotype classical Spanish guitar music.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun Lee
    In my opinion, both websites don't look professional - they looked a bit too cramped.

    -Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author AFD
    Originally Posted by Omix View Post

    Hi!

    I've finished my first "serious" site for promoting a clickbank product. I've tried to success on clickbank other times, with test landing pages, ppc, etc, but I want to start something more solid and for long-term bussiness, with mail list, etc , so ... I started Modern Guitar Method | Ideas, Phrases and Exercises for the modern guitarists by Toni Lloret

    I have to work hard now for traffic, backlinks, articles, etc, but... do you think it will convert with the actual design?? should i add an articles section where upload the same articles i will send to directories?

    Many thanks in advance!
    Have you got any sales through this website so far? thanks... nice website..
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I'll leave the nitpicking to others (not that the suggestions aren't valid) because I just want to offer some encouragement. I think the site looks GREAT, and that dude can play a mean guitar. You should do well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Looks great! I would order from there if I ran across it.

    Your list price and the price that comes up are different though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      Looks great! I would order from there if I ran across it.

      Your list price and the price that comes up are different though.
      Oh darn. I should have eordered yesterday.

      Toni's playing is impressive. I wonder how well sales would do with a price test at $27, $37, $47.

      :-Don
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      • Profile picture of the author Omix
        Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

        Hey Omix, another thought came to me.

        When I read about Toni being a Spanish guitarist the first thing that came to mind was Spanish classical guitar music - Sor, Albeniz, Tarrega or Flemenco guitar... not modern - not rock.

        Here in the USA, classical guitar or Flemenco guitar is what will usually come to mind as soon as you say, "Spanish" guitarist.

        And easy and impressive way to get around this is to have a very short 5 to 10 second audio of Toni shredding wildly - ending on a chord. Keep it short so people can then read the Website.

        This short, impressive lick by Toni will pull any guitar student into the Website. It's that sudden "Wow!" factor. And this will immediately remove any thoughts of the stereotype classical Spanish guitar music.

        :-Don
        You're totally right. i'll add a short small video on autoplay under the headline, I think that should work!

        Originally Posted by AFD View Post

        Have you got any sales through this website so far? thanks... nice website..
        Just a couple of sales, lets see what happens when traffic starts coming

        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        I'll leave the nitpicking to others (not that the suggestions aren't valid) because I just want to offer some encouragement. I think the site looks GREAT, and that dude can play a mean guitar. You should do well.
        Thanks! i'm taking notes of all the information given by all you, and applying the changes to the website. Hope all them work!
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    What did you use to get away from the Youtube videos ?

    It's already looking better.

    Removing that nasty site leakage in regards YT was time well spent.

    Your affiliates will thank you as well.

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  • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
    I think you did an absolutely exceptional Job. Theres some good advice here, but in general, you need to start promoting! Do a little split testing, and optomise. But dont stress and sit on your haunches "perfecting" things.

    Get some numbers, then you can focus on the things that are *most* important (The statistics you gather, will of course let you make this decision).

    Regards,

    -Jordan
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

      What did you use to get away from the Youtube videos ?

      It's already looking better.

      Removing that nasty site leakage in regards YT was time well spent.

      Your affiliates will thank you as well.

      EDIT nm
      FLVPlayer 1.01
      Hi Simon, i used that early version of FLVPlayer for the videos. The new versions of the player (LongTail Video | Home of the JW Player bought it) doesn't work on IE.

      Thanks!


      Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

      I think you did an absolutely exceptional Job. Theres some good advice here, but in general, you need to start promoting! Do a little split testing, and optomise. But dont stress and sit on your haunches "perfecting" things.

      Get some numbers, then you can focus on the things that are *most* important (The statistics you gather, will of course let you make this decision).

      Regards,

      -Jordan
      Yeah! that's the next step. Working on the site without any real traffic to test & study is a waste of time. Let's work on that!!

      Kw research, articles and so on!

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Your site is looking a lot better than yesterday. I would dump that yellow menu as it don't blend in with the theme. Those black boxes for the videos is also not good. I think you will do well with this site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Omix
          Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

          Your site is looking a lot better than yesterday. I would dump that yellow menu as it don't blend in with the theme. Those black boxes for the videos is also not good. I think you will do well with this site.
          Thanks theimdude! i'm working on a new navigation bar right now.

          That black screen on videos is awful, but i've tested other many flv players with preview, and all them failed on IE
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  • Profile picture of the author nebraska
    You might want to have your testimonials in a display box or something to make them stand out. Also images of the people making them is a nice touch.
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by nebraska View Post

      You might want to have your testimonials in a display box or something to make them stand out. Also images of the people making them is a nice touch.
      yeah, i can put them on smaller boxes, but incluiding images of the people is more difficult.. maybe i can use their forum avatars, i'll check
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    This is the Product Reviews section. This thread appears to have been moved here by mistake. Out of respect to the OP and other posters, I won't close it down but please don't post similar threads here.

    Thanks,

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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      This is the Product Reviews section. This thread appears to have been moved here by mistake. Out of respect to the OP and other posters, I won't close it down but please don't post similar threads here.

      Thanks,

      Pearson
      Hi Pearson,

      I didn't notice the post was moved.
      I started it on the main forum, dont know why it has been moved, i'm not reviewing any product, just asking for opinions about the website

      Thanks!
      (I cant PM you, dont have 50 posts yet, sorry)
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    • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      This is the Product Reviews section. This thread appears to have been moved here by mistake. Out of respect to the OP and other posters, I won't close it down but please don't post similar threads here.

      Thanks,

      Pearson

      What section should threads like this be in?

      MODERATOR In the Main Forum - where the OP placed it ;-) We have a couple of new mods in there so I think one must have made a mistake.
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    Are you making money now ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by realpph View Post

      Are you making money now ?
      Not yet, the site has no traffic.

      i'm just starting the promotion
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      • Profile picture of the author Chad Eljisr
        You have a killer product. It should sell very well. Who wouldn't like to play guitar like this guy...

        But... I am surprised nobody said anything about the eCovers for the eBook and audio-video... I mean, after all the effort that was done till now, the potential buyer sees a cheap, really ugly designed cover for the product...

        There are great WSOs that can do your cover for as little as $15. You can use the headers' design so you have a consistent identity for your product...

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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Hey

    one thing i'd say is not to have the video play automatically, alot of people don't like that.. especially if they are at surfing at work (many work comps dont have speakers but some do

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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

      Hey

      one thing i'd say is not to have the video play automatically, alot of people don't like that.. especially if they are at surfing at work (many work comps dont have speakers but some do

      Ruchi
      Hi Ruch1v!

      I know, and i'm worried about that, but i need to remark the kinda guitarrist that toni is, so i need some audio... maybe i'll edit the video, add some fade in&out effects and cut it to 5-10 seconds ... maybe that works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
    It looks good. Who is Tony Lioret?
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    I like your website. Looks professional. I wish you luck on your sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Here's some thoughts:

    Your header graphic is nice but takes up too much space.

    Almost straight away you're giving away the fact it's a sales page with your deck copy. This might be fine or it might immediately turn people off depending on your traffic.

    You're selling on Toni's name, is his name well known enough? Regardless, I'd give him a better intro, explain who he is and why he's qualified to teach. The video's impressive but not quite enough by itself.

    Make more of the problem, make your reader aware that he has a problem (not enough time to practice, no suitable instructor, etc.), emotionalize it, then make him aware that you have the solution.

    Your English is good, but not quite good enough for selling. This could do with a native speaker giving it a proofread.

    Flesh out your bullets a bit more, instead of just listing technique names go into each in more depth, e.g. The quickest and easiest method to sweep pick like a pro (p.55) and 7 secret techniques that let you instantly memorize ANY six string sequence (p. 37) Disclaimer: I obviously know nothing about playing the guitar!

    Use more bullets and more copy to let readers know exactly what they're getting.

    I'd get rid of the opt-in box, the sole aim of the sales page should be to sell. If you're getting visitors from outside your funnel try an exit pop-up.

    The black video screens don't look good, try using the first frame of the video as a placeholder.

    Get the real names and locations of the testimonial givers, if possible get a photo. And get them translated better.

    The quote from Toni needs some work: drop 'attempt' and space it out a little more to make it easier to read.

    Make more of the guarantee and make it longer and more specific, e.g. I believe you'll be absolutely thrilled with Toni's book... but in the unlikely event that you're not, you'll get every single cent back. If after 30 days you're not delighted with your new found abilities then I will give you an immediate, hassle-free, no questions asked refund.

    And finally, so you can charge more, and you should, it looks like a quality product... don't sell it as an ebook, sell it as a course. Aim for $197. If you test it you might be surprised at how your price actually affects sales.

    Hope some of this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis View Post

      It looks good. Who is Tony Lioret?
      Toni Lloret is a renowned spanish electric guitar player that has released a new advanced guitar techniques course

      Originally Posted by Chad Eljisr View Post

      You have a killer product. It should sell very well. Who wouldn't like to play guitar like this guy...

      But... I am surprised nobody said anything about the eCovers for the eBook and audio-video... I mean, after all the effort that was done till now, the potential buyer sees a cheap, really ugly designed cover for the product...

      There are great WSOs that can do your cover for as little as $15. You can use the headers' design so you have a consistent identity for your product...

      Chad
      I'm on the way Hope this week I get the new design for the course. 5 books + 2 Cds per each book. I think that will help for the hype!

      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      Here's some thoughts:

      Your header graphic is nice but takes up too much space.

      Almost straight away you're giving away the fact it's a sales page with your deck copy. This might be fine or it might immediately turn people off depending on your traffic.

      You're selling on Toni's name, is his name well known enough? Regardless, I'd give him a better intro, explain who he is and why he's qualified to teach. The video's impressive but not quite enough by itself.

      Make more of the problem, make your reader aware that he has a problem (not enough time to practice, no suitable instructor, etc.), emotionalize it, then make him aware that you have the solution.

      Your English is good, but not quite good enough for selling. This could do with a native speaker giving it a proofread.

      Flesh out your bullets a bit more, instead of just listing technique names go into each in more depth, e.g. The quickest and easiest method to sweep pick like a pro (p.55) and 7 secret techniques that let you instantly memorize ANY six string sequence (p. 37) Disclaimer: I obviously know nothing about playing the guitar!

      Use more bullets and more copy to let readers know exactly what they're getting.

      I'd get rid of the opt-in box, the sole aim of the sales page should be to sell. If you're getting visitors from outside your funnel try an exit pop-up.

      The black video screens don't look good, try using the first frame of the video as a placeholder.

      Get the real names and locations of the testimonial givers, if possible get a photo. And get them translated better.

      The quote from Toni needs some work: drop 'attempt' and space it out a little more to make it easier to read.

      Make more of the guarantee and make it longer and more specific, e.g. I believe you'll be absolutely thrilled with Toni's book... but in the unlikely event that you're not, you'll get every single cent back. If after 30 days you're not delighted with your new found abilities then I will give you an immediate, hassle-free, no questions asked refund.

      And finally, so you can charge more, and you should, it looks like a quality product... don't sell it as an ebook, sell it as a course. Aim for $197. If you test it you might be surprised at how your price actually affects sales.

      Hope some of this helps.
      Thanks Andrew!! Very good ideas on your post. I'll work on them inmediatly.
      I'm working on a new sales page with an english native copywriter.

      I'm thinking now on how start the promotion of the site.

      I've been studing some KW that will work, should I publish some articles about guitars/guitarists and link to my site from the resource box or write about some guitar techniques, including the KW, and link to my site from the resource box?
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    not sure if this has been said already, but try and get the REAL names of the people who left a testimonial, a testimonial from 'x7bn' or 'MeTaL3r0 o7' doesn't really mean much to me
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    • Profile picture of the author Omix
      Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

      not sure if this has been said already, but try and get the REAL names of the people who left a testimonial, a testimonial from 'x7bn' or 'MeTaL3r0 o7' doesn't really mean much to me
      I'm not sure I can get their real names. That nicks are from the guitar forum.
      Maybe the vendor can contact them for that, i'll ask

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      • Profile picture of the author Omix
        First sale of the new sales letter arrived!!!

        I've removed the opt in form from the sale letter, modified some text, and voila!!! First sale for it!!!

        Now i'll add some more details of the course and i think it will be ready for action at 100%!

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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Gratz on your first sale! I went back to the page and its much better. I am glad you got some sound advice from our warrior friends!

    Keep up the good work and I hope you have much success!
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      Good on your first sale. I personally don't like the video starting when you load the page but I suppose it is because I have been to your page a few time.

      You really need to do something about those black boxes as that can be a sales stopper. Can you add a graphic of the start of the video and when they click on the graphic the video starts.

      Good for removing that opt in page - you have enough sample videos on the site to show the content.
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      • Profile picture of the author Omix
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        Gratz on your first sale! I went back to the page and its much better. I am glad you got some sound advice from our warrior friends!

        Keep up the good work and I hope you have much success!
        Thanks! People have to listen to the advices of the warriors, this is the reason to be of this forum

        Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

        Good on your first sale. I personally don't like the video starting when you load the page but I suppose it is because I have been to your page a few time.

        You really need to do something about those black boxes as that can be a sales stopper. Can you add a graphic of the start of the video and when they click on the graphic the video starts.

        Good for removing that opt in page - you have enough sample videos on the site to show the content.
        I know that black screens are awful... but i cant find a flv player with preview compatible with IE
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    Your site looks great. This is certainly a serious time. I am sure in time, you will make lots of sales. Article marketing is my favorite method of free promotion. Good design.
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  • Profile picture of the author Omix
    Well, I'm here again. Over 1 Month of starting the new site, I've finally started to have some of the KW choosen on 1st page of google, and some traffic (low) is starting to arrive to the website!

    There aren't new sales, but until I don't get more traffic, I'm not going to tweak anything on the sales page.

    I'm finishing a blog section inside the website too, where to write articles about some other KW and try to get more traffic.

    It's being hard (slow links indexing, hard to find writters for guitar techniques articles, etc) but my goal is having +500 visits daily only from natural traffic in the next 3-4 months, and try to get at least 0.5% of conversion. What do you think about that numbers?

    Thanks for all your help on this post!
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