Opinion about Jonathan Leger's www.3waylinks.net please.......

I am a member of it and am considering leaving as i don't seem to have seen much difference to the sites i have on there

I respect Jon's knowledge and products he provides, but I'm starting to lose faith in the 3WL technique myself, the reality is most the sites have barely to no PR that are getting involved in the program...

but my BIGGEST turn off, is the fact that once you quit/cancel the membership, all the links (and months of payments) are removed from the system.

You are essentially renting links, and I dont like that. I'd prefer permanent blog link placement which is what I get with Traffic Kahuna (tho LinkVana could be another alternative)

I recommend going with LinkVana, which has a much better network of blogs. And, you don't lose your links / posts if you ever cancel.

I could go on a big rant here but my short answer is DON'T waste your time or money

Here is my opinion on 3WL:

From personal experience, yes, they will penalize you. Not only will they penalize you, but they will likely de-index you.

I was a member of a service as well, and 2 of my sites were in very competitive niches. Both sites eventually ranked 1st on Google for my primary keyword (one related to credit cards, one health, both with over 20 million competing pages).

During the time these sites were ranked 1st on Google, my online earnings hit an enitrely different level. Unfortunately, both sites were de-indexed about a month or so after they started to rank 1st.

Now, cynics or owners/founders of said services will defend the service and say that the sites must have be de-indexed for another reason, but that is garbage. I have over 5 sites, created exactly like the 2 that were de-indexed, and the only difference is I used the service on the 2 that were de-indexed. The others are still doing well, not ranking as high, but still in Google's index.

I will personally stay away from linking scemes that require a linking page to be automatically filled. There is another service which builds 1 way links over time, and it doesn't require you to put anything on the site you're promoting. I have been using it for 2 months now and have been very happy with the results. The nice thing about this service is that it is basically impossible for Google to de-index you for using it, because there is really no way at all for them to know.

Anyway, that is my .02.

Chris

The 1 way link service I use isn't Linkvana and it doesn't cost nearly as much.

I tried 3 way links for about 6 months and noticed no improvement in my test site. I think you would be better off saving your money and just working on link building yourself and you will see results quicker.

"3 way links" works for me.. linkvana did too but it was quite expensive, and these were properties that were not yours and did not have full control over them. I learned it was better to build your own network across multiple IPs.

I tried both 3waylinks and Linktator2.

The problem with such systems is that
1) your links end up on a links-only page, which is not good SEO
2) this special links-page also has a "footprint", which almighty Google may spot

I recommend instead using some service which lets you put links in the text of articles posted on other sites - like LinkVana, 1waylinks.net, etc.

If you are trying to rank for highly competitive terms then 3waylinks will not help much. But if you are going for long tail terms with little competition then you will see results. Plus, if you have many sites then $47 a month for all those links is actually a really good deal.

tntrader: interesting observation... just wonder if those links in the sig are affiliate links? Such are not allowed here - stated in a "Sticky" thread up there.

Human editors are being used more and more by google. Moreover Tactics to out smart the Google algoritham will gradually get harder over time. We do not know how it operates, if you make a mistake , you are deindexed immediately. You may feel you are doing well one day; then the next day you are out.

For me 3waylinks is like a link booster , you need more permanent links to support your site ranking in the long run.

Bought it, and not convinced by it yet. The forum at their site has very little activity except for people complaining about being deindexed in Google.

And there is a footprint, despite them telling you there is no footprint. I can spot it but they won't let me change it.

What bothers me the most (as a programmer) is that the code that runs this product actually makes a remote call to Jon's site everytime someone views your link page. Yet the link page only changed at 3AM every night. How inefficient is that? Jon could save a wack load of bandwidth and processing power by increasing the efficiency of a script that only changes once per day, and pass the savings on to the users.

And because you are getting a page off his server that means you can't change it. You can't apply CSS to the links, you can't change the default header (mine says "Web Resources") and you can't change the positioning of the "next page" links which are at the top of each page and contribute to the footprint. Could have at least randomized their appearance to remove some footprint.

Anyway, those are some of the reasons I won't be renewing. I've only been there a month but I only rank for 3 phrases with Google. If those other things were fixed up I'd probably give it a 6 month trial.

Hi,
I was using another blog linking service but due to many internal problems wanted to change. I have signed-up for Linkvana and like it so far (first day). it can be very tempting to buy those 2$ postings as you can only have one link per post and the posts have to be 100 words or more which takes me about 10 minutes to write (and I am a very fast typer!).
All the posts here have been very useful as I was also considering using 3waylinks. One of my strong niche is hypnosis which is not aloud in the program so that plus the fact that the links are removed if you stop paying the monthly membership was enough to tilt the scale on the NO side for now.
Thank you everyone,
Nathalie

An update, has been 3 or 4 months since I got on board.

My main site quickly moved to page 1 as suggested it would, but was shot down in ranking, as suggested it would, and has not bounced back, which was suggested it would.

In short, that site is #3 at MSN (great) and #333 at Google (actual numbers).

I thought 3-4 months would be enough for the bounce back.

I can't directly attribute this to 3 way links, but in my analytical mind I have to look at 3 way links as the possible culprit for the drastically different rankings at the 2 engines. I think Google is probably on to the 3 way links footprint. And yes, there is one.

I'll probably get out and possibly let you know if I see any recovery in a few months.

Why don't you people realise that trying to scam the search engines with linking and backlinking systems simply won't work in the long run.

If you spent as much time trying these scams as you did actually running your business THE CORRECT WAY, you would achieve your goals far quicker.

I could write 1000 words about it... but let me recap 3waylinks in 4 words:

a waste of money...