Opinion about Jonathan Leger's www.3waylinks.net please.......

by econos
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Hi,

I would like to have opinions from the users of
Jonathan Leger's 3 Way Links .

Can I have your reviews please.
#jonathan #leger #opinion #www3waylinksnet
  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    I am a member of it and am considering leaving as i don't seem to have seen much difference to the sites i have on there
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I respect Jon's knowledge and products he provides, but I'm starting to lose faith in the 3WL technique myself, the reality is most the sites have barely to no PR that are getting involved in the program...

    but my BIGGEST turn off, is the fact that once you quit/cancel the membership, all the links (and months of payments) are removed from the system.

    You are essentially renting links, and I dont like that. I'd prefer permanent blog link placement which is what I get with Traffic Kahuna (tho LinkVana could be another alternative)
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    • Profile picture of the author X
      After paying for 8 months with no change
      in PR for any of my 7-8 sites, I canceled.

      (NOTE: I have MANY more than 8 sites
      but the whole process of setting up 3WL
      was a major hassle - )

      Now, I don't think PR is all that it's touted
      to be so that alone isn't a big issue though
      it's telling of overall effectiveness, IMO.

      Only about 1 in each 5 of my keyword phrases
      gained *any* SEO love at all and the ones that
      did lost all ranking in the month or two
      before I canceled.

      In all fairness - 3WL DID deliver what it
      promised, which was inbound links. But it
      wasn't enough to make any noticeable
      difference in my income, far less pay for
      itself.

      My biggest issue with 3WL: ridiculous content
      standards. That was a major headache for
      MANY, regardless of how Jon Leger wants
      to spin that as "just a few wackos being
      headaches".

      For the money, you'd be better off having
      10 unique articles written and submitted to
      article directories every month. OR paying
      for $50 worth of clicks that produce ACTUAL
      TARGETED traffic.

      Take a look at LinkTator2.com - no, not an
      affiliate link - if interested in a service like
      this.

      Does the same job for much less -
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      • Profile picture of the author econos
        Thank you SpudDS, Dexx and X for your valuable opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author henryzeng
        I've been a member of 3WayLinks for 7 months and it works SO WELL for me. Some of my keywords even rank page 1 of Google out of 200,000,000 results.

        I can say 99% of those who don't get results with 3WL are doing inappropriate keyword selections.

        And it's silly if you want to gain some PR with 3WL because your sites are leaking PR since they are linking to other 3WL sites.

        3WL is best for mini sites in small niches. I also use my own tactic to do affiliate marketing which is very efficient with 3WL. You can see it on my blog here:

        How to Choose the Money Keywords & Cash In with 3WayLinks.net System - Guaranteed!
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            • Profile picture of the author mudmat
              Yep, linkvana is expensive but it is the best to get one way links to your site. The links are permanent unlike 3waylinks.

              I'm currently using 3waylinks and 1 of my keyword is already ranked 13th. So I think is that you have to choose your keywords wisely. Jon does provide a guide on how to choose your keywords properly.
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              • Profile picture of the author tommyp
                Okay, I also had it and quit. But as far as it sucking that
                you have to stay on in order to keep the links you paid
                for - I don't know that that is entirely true.

                It's been a while since I quit and recently just out of some
                curiosity I went backed and logged in and my sites were
                still there. I am sure I can't add any new ones but it seems
                that whatever you had when you quit remains so long as
                you also keep your links.php on your site so that you are
                linking to others also.

                Another problem with removing sites that cancel is that
                those people are also linking to others who remain in the
                network and so if they remove them those who stay
                members lose links.

                That's what it looks like to me but to be sure you should
                ask Jonathan Leger.
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            • Profile picture of the author blue-ego
              Linkvana its mostly for pros with sites that return the investment
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              • Profile picture of the author chuckyockey
                I like 3WL for a number of reasons. I use it on almost all of my sites.

                One of the reasons to use it, not only for the additional links and link juice the system provides for a web site, but you can use 3WL on your smaller somewhat dormant web domains and use them for feeder sites that point to your more active domains.

                I have found that when you have chosen your keywords properly, you will see a definite bump up in your rankings for that keyword.

                Also, 3WL is for serious players only. At $47/month, you should have a way of making that money back or you're just throwing the money away even if you are rising in the SERPs.

                IMHO...

                Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
        Thanks for the resource you provided. LinkTator2.com seems good.
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      • Profile picture of the author anwar001
        Thanks for the useful review. I was thinking of using their service. But now I have to change my decision. I learned a lot and this information was really helpful for me.

        I will now think of investing my money in some permanent link building methods which may not be all-automated.
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      • Profile picture of the author anwar001
        linktator2 seems to be exactly similar to 3waylinks. If one is ineffective then the other might also be ineffective I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason K. Thomas
    I recommend going with LinkVana, which has a much better network of blogs. And, you don't lose your links / posts if you ever cancel.
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    • Profile picture of the author econos
      Thank you Jason.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
        "I recommend going with LinkVana, which has a much better network of blogs. And, you don't lose your links / posts if you ever cancel."

        Thanks Jason, that is good to know, how many posts can you make in one month.
        Have you used Linkvana, has it helped your sites.

        Jeremy
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  • Profile picture of the author HDRider
    I could go on a big rant here but my short answer is DON'T waste your time or money
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  • Profile picture of the author tntrader
    Here is my opinion on 3WL:

    From personal experience, yes, they will penalize you. Not only will they penalize you, but they will likely de-index you.

    I was a member of a service as well, and 2 of my sites were in very competitive niches. Both sites eventually ranked 1st on Google for my primary keyword (one related to credit cards, one health, both with over 20 million competing pages).

    During the time these sites were ranked 1st on Google, my online earnings hit an enitrely different level. Unfortunately, both sites were de-indexed about a month or so after they started to rank 1st.

    Now, cynics or owners/founders of said services will defend the service and say that the sites must have be de-indexed for another reason, but that is garbage. I have over 5 sites, created exactly like the 2 that were de-indexed, and the only difference is I used the service on the 2 that were de-indexed. The others are still doing well, not ranking as high, but still in Google's index.

    I will personally stay away from linking scemes that require a linking page to be automatically filled. There is another service which builds 1 way links over time, and it doesn't require you to put anything on the site you're promoting. I have been using it for 2 months now and have been very happy with the results. The nice thing about this service is that it is basically impossible for Google to de-index you for using it, because there is really no way at all for them to know.

    Anyway, that is my .02.

    Chris

    The 1 way link service I use isn't Linkvana and it doesn't cost nearly as much.
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    I tried 3 way links for about 6 months and noticed no improvement in my test site. I think you would be better off saving your money and just working on link building yourself and you will see results quicker.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrsencio
    "3 way links" works for me.. linkvana did too but it was quite expensive, and these were properties that were not yours and did not have full control over them. I learned it was better to build your own network across multiple IPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunnyman
    I tried both 3waylinks and Linktator2.

    The problem with such systems is that
    1) your links end up on a links-only page, which is not good SEO
    2) this special links-page also has a "footprint", which almighty Google may spot

    I recommend instead using some service which lets you put links in the text of articles posted on other sites - like LinkVana, 1waylinks.net, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt Chrisler
    If you are trying to rank for highly competitive terms then 3waylinks will not help much. But if you are going for long tail terms with little competition then you will see results. Plus, if you have many sites then $47 a month for all those links is actually a really good deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author tntrader
      I disagree. As I discussed above, I was a member of 3WL for months and achieved a #1 ranking on Google for a keyword with over 30 million competing pages (in quotes).

      3WL absolutely works, I am just convinced that Google conducts manual reviews of sites ranked high for competitive keywords and it's pretty easy to see that a site is running 3WL.

      That is why I was de-indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunnyman
    tntrader: interesting observation... just wonder if those links in the sig are affiliate links? Such are not allowed here - stated in a "Sticky" thread up there.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    Human editors are being used more and more by google. Moreover Tactics to out smart the Google algoritham will gradually get harder over time. We do not know how it operates, if you make a mistake , you are deindexed immediately. You may feel you are doing well one day; then the next day you are out.
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  • Profile picture of the author EthanTee
    For me 3waylinks is like a link booster , you need more permanent links to support your site ranking in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      Originally Posted by EthanTee View Post

      For me 3waylinks is like a link booster , you need more permanent links to support your site ranking in the long run.
      I agree, you need to get a wide variety of links going, but 3WL simply gives you a some link juice while you are building others. So write articles, do videos, blog comment, everything you can over time and you should be fine. My sites have done well with 3WL.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joeez
        Could have just been my inexperience at the time, but I used 3 Way Links about 8 months ago on a site of mine. After a couple of months, I hit page one for the semi competitive phrase "Affiliate Marketing Tips." Unfortunately, I got de-indexed by Google shortly thereafter, so I don't recommend it.
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        • Originally Posted by Joeez View Post

          Could have just been my inexperience at the time, but I used 3 Way Links about 8 months ago on a site of mine. After a couple of months, I hit page one for the semi competitive phrase "Affiliate Marketing Tips." Unfortunately, I got de-indexed by Google shortly thereafter, so I don't recommend it.
          This must be one the best pieces of advice any one reading this thread could take.

          If they spent as much time trying these scams as you did actually running your business THE CORRECT WAY, you would achieve your goals far quicker.
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  • Profile picture of the author Plinko
    Bought it, and not convinced by it yet. The forum at their site has very little activity except for people complaining about being deindexed in Google.

    And there is a footprint, despite them telling you there is no footprint. I can spot it but they won't let me change it.

    What bothers me the most (as a programmer) is that the code that runs this product actually makes a remote call to Jon's site everytime someone views your link page. Yet the link page only changed at 3AM every night. How inefficient is that? Jon could save a wack load of bandwidth and processing power by increasing the efficiency of a script that only changes once per day, and pass the savings on to the users.

    And because you are getting a page off his server that means you can't change it. You can't apply CSS to the links, you can't change the default header (mine says "Web Resources") and you can't change the positioning of the "next page" links which are at the top of each page and contribute to the footprint. Could have at least randomized their appearance to remove some footprint.

    Anyway, those are some of the reasons I won't be renewing. I've only been there a month but I only rank for 3 phrases with Google. If those other things were fixed up I'd probably give it a 6 month trial.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Edit: Support issue resolved with Jon Leger.
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  • Profile picture of the author nathfiset
    Hi,
    I was using another blog linking service but due to many internal problems wanted to change. I have signed-up for Linkvana and like it so far (first day). it can be very tempting to buy those 2$ postings as you can only have one link per post and the posts have to be 100 words or more which takes me about 10 minutes to write (and I am a very fast typer!).
    All the posts here have been very useful as I was also considering using 3waylinks. One of my strong niche is hypnosis which is not aloud in the program so that plus the fact that the links are removed if you stop paying the monthly membership was enough to tilt the scale on the NO side for now.
    Thank you everyone,
    Nathalie
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  • Profile picture of the author Plinko
    An update, has been 3 or 4 months since I got on board.

    My main site quickly moved to page 1 as suggested it would, but was shot down in ranking, as suggested it would, and has not bounced back, which was suggested it would.

    In short, that site is #3 at MSN (great) and #333 at Google (actual numbers).

    I thought 3-4 months would be enough for the bounce back.

    I can't directly attribute this to 3 way links, but in my analytical mind I have to look at 3 way links as the possible culprit for the drastically different rankings at the 2 engines. I think Google is probably on to the 3 way links footprint. And yes, there is one.

    I'll probably get out and possibly let you know if I see any recovery in a few months.
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    • Profile picture of the author PMinc
      I got a refund within a couple of days simply because of the poor customer service. I had troubles with the system right off the bat and there's no way I'm shelling out $47 for what I consider "a parked taxi with the meter running" customer service.
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  • Originally Posted by econos View Post

    Hi,

    I would like to have opinions from the users of
    Jonathan Leger's 3 Way Links .

    Can I have your reviews please.
    Why don't you people realise that trying to scam the search engines with linking and backlinking systems simply won't work in the long run.

    If you spent as much time trying these scams as you did actually running your business THE CORRECT WAY, you would achieve your goals far quicker.
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    I could write 1000 words about it... but let me recap 3waylinks in 4 words:

    a waste of money...
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