Traffic ultimatum ????

I am not sure if I wan't to be buying accounts on youtube to put links to my websites on videos. There is nothing wrong in putting links on the video description, but I truly do not believe this youtube buying thing to be a user accepted behavior by youtube's user policy, keep in mind that youtube keeps records of all the messages that come in and out of your account, plus they know how to find out which domains belong to who and which affiliate links belong to who, and once they decide to take you to court for buying accounts etc on youtube you most likely will end up on the news and paying through your nose to get yourself out of all that mess, that's if you can even get yourself out of it.

It's not a software. It's just a really big course on all the traffic methods he uses on his business, so like the classics: PPC, SEO, Article Marketing, Free Traffic, PPV, Paid Traffic, Social Media and Social Networking, and a couple of other ones you might not have heard of.

This product may be good, and the method he mentions is good, but I am calling B.S on his videos

Why?

1. Youtube Buying is NOT new. It has been around for 2 years and I have seen at least 3 other Warriors offer WSO's on the subject

2. The income claims are very misleading

If you watch the videos, the contradictions are pretty laughable

First of all, in order to make $126,000 per month, you need to create your own product.

That product needs to be a best seller on Clickbank and you need to Partner with people with HUGE lists...as well as having tons of affiliates promote your product

I guarantee he didn't make that $126,000 from Youtube Buying

Secondly, he shows you income from a few months back YET in video 2, he says HE JUST DISCOVERED this method

Third, he says in the video that he DOES NOT recommend using Youtube Buying with Clickbank

Yet he shows you his Clickbank acct from Proof of Earnings Purposes

Maybe I am all alone here but I can't stand this kind of marketing

People in this econonomy are desperate and preying on that desperation and getting their hopes up...well, I don't like it

If he had just shown his CPA accts as proof of earnings for this method, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me

Second, if he had disclosed that he got that money from Google Sniper promotions and his email list and NOT Youtube buying, you wouldn't hear a peep from me

This is bait and switch advertising...and I am calling BS

-Mark

A lot of people got a review copy, even I did, and its very well laid out.

You must have skimmed the vid... I believe he says that is an average of his TOTAL across his entire business.

I got the course... as George has great info.

I say Buy if you are thinking about it.

Get a domain name on that quick and hold on to it - just in case

Robert

So true! It's interesting seeing all the cookie-cutter launches now that Kern has perfected his style.

But it works! That's the best part.

Your's isn't a critique, Jose. It's a nice analysis, or review, of George's launch technique and, as such, I appreciate that.

To be a student of Pagan and/or Kern was likely - even according to you, I think - a good choice for George. And, at age 19, looks like he was a Quick Study.

Let's not argue with success. (Which I don't think you are.) Let's see what we can emulate in our own launches.

And, in this thread, I'm more interested in your evaluation of George's content. Will we (read: "I") learn something useful? Or didn't you get past the pitch? I've not yet bitten on Georges new product, but after reading this thread I'm seriously considering it.

In any event, I appreciate your remarks,

Phil

If we ask what it cost rather than what is it worth, we are defeated before we even start. Instead of thinking gosh $197 plus a monthly fee is too expensive, ask how much can I make with such this amount of investment.
If we were building a brick and mortar business, this amount of money would be chump change.
I will be purchasing Traffic Ultimatum. I see it's value and I am going for it.

His product already has a gravity of 242, meaning he's made ATLEAST $50k in the past 24hrs

got TU on the first day of its launch... still going through it bits by bits. Also have the same thought of getting his previous Google sniper after seeing lots of good review here

I dunno how people can criticise the course without having even bothered to check it out themselves. :rolleyes:

As for best bonus?
I'd have to say Michael Rasmussen may very well have secured the best bonuses.

All of the bonuses are George's. Not any of Michael's own products.

I went with Adeel Chowdry/Bobby Walkers bonus. Exclusive bonus of the missing modules which he never included in the main course, another social media bonus thing and some other stuff like Michael Rasmussen's Get More buyers course, 30 day access to Google ambush etc.
I only really got it for the missing modules.

Its good, but i'm thinking I perhaps shoulda gone with Michael's.

Thanks Zero!
Just got your PM

Cheers!

Let me be the first of many who will tell you that you are mistaken.

As Ryan Deiss put it in one of his training videos, Super Affiliates can go "off menu". Super Affiliates can negotiate percentages much higher than what you see on Clickbank. If you, as a Super Affiliate, have the ability to drive thousands of prospective buyers to an offer, you can ask for and receive commission percentages that are much higher than your average Clickbank affiliate.

But don't take my word for it -- somebody else will corroborate my statement.

Hey dude..

Is that true, is that what G said?

If he's followed the tactics that he's learned over the last year, it would be most beneficial for him to offer 75-100% of sales, cos he can more than make up for that on the back end upsell.

So far, over 1,400 people are in IMElite.com at $30 odd a month.

Because I still remember what it was like to be a noob and reading the rape and pillage BS that is currently flooding my inbox from this launch makes my blood boil.

It makes me want to throw up what I never ate and spit napalm.

It got to the point where I was opening even fewer emails than I normally do until someone wrote "This is NOT a Traffic Ultimatum email" which actually made me laugh out ... so I opened it.

When I was starting out, I too wandered around in the mist looking for THE course that was going to unlock the secret technique , blah, blah, blah.

So I know what it's like to drop $197 bucks on the latest super duper secret technique that slices, dices and makes perfect julienne fries.

Fortunately, I had enough disposable income at the time to waste on that idiocy until I came to my senses and figured out THERE IS NO SECRET.

Many people starting out (especially in this economy) do not have that luxury and are pinning their hopes on the equivalent of a lottery ticket.

The cold harsh reality is that most newbs who drop $197 on Traffic Ultimatum (or most any other guru spammed CB hyped promo) will NEVER recoup their "investment".

Do you think for a second that any of the spam pimps competing for the top affiliate prizes care about whether someone is taking money they can't really afford to spend to buy a product they don't really need?

Have you ever even wondered why people who supposedly sell you the only product you'll ever need to be successful on the net the very next day start flooding your inbox with the newest, latest greatest affiliate promotion that will help you make it on the net (with of course bonuses that are more valuable than the course itself)?

Do you know any business in the real world (Wonderland not included) that says "Buy this new banana, I'll give you the full bag of groceries as a bonus!" ... "Buy this new bar of soap, I'll throw in a whirlpool as a bonus!" ... "Buy this new quart of oil, I'll throw in a full tank of gas as a bonus!"?

Look, I'm not even trying to reach the people chasing a pipe dream, that would be like trying to reason with a crack head. They'll churn and burn and maybe clue in once they max out all their credit cards and have nothing to show for it.

However, I have read about a lot of people really trying to make a go at the internet marketing gig because they have nowhere else to turn in this economy and if even one of those people happens to read this thread then I haven't wasted my time.

Also, please note, I'm not picking on the creator of this product. Don't even know the kid, and I think it's fantastic that a 19 year old has done so well for himself on the net. A lot of kids that age can barely make it from the bed to the fridge they're so lazy and entitled ... but I digress.

However, the guru BS detector on this particular launch is off the scale. Add to that the fact that someone like Mark Dickenson, who sings the praises of Google Sniper (or used to anyway) says he's watched the videos and is still calling BS on it ... then by all means please ignore every warning anybody has taken the time to share at your own peril.

LOL ... you've obviously never been on one of his lists. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, that approach really only works for people with experience. A lot of noobs can't accurately discern a poodle from a pig in a curly fur coat.

Make money launch gurus knowingly count on the fact that most people either won't use the material or if they do and fail, the 60 day refund period will have expired.

Noobs who fall in that trap then enter the downward spiral of desperation thinking they are the problem, not the bill of goods they were sold, so they keep buying more and more stuff they don't need until they either give up totally disillusioned or max out their credit cards.

I would like to say good job Jim. It takes a lot to come back after what happened. Most would have just disappeared but it takes integrity to stick around...

Take your own advice Jim and focus on one particular aspect of internet marketing and ride it like a wild stallion!

If you haven't returned George's product, focus on just one of the many methods (preferably the one that you like best) and really give it everything you've got.

It's like the product that Frank Kern wanted to make instead of List Control, which was about mindset. Most people wanted to learn about building an email list but you won't even complete that if you don't have the right mindset. But as we all know, sell people what they want and not what they need...

So don't stop knowing Jim, and I say knowing because you need to know that you will make it and not just believe that you will.

I really do hope that this post helps.

Jay

Hey Jim, glad you took the time to rewrite your post. I can really relate to your story. Wish I had someone to throw cold water on me when I first started out.

It's true there's a lot of opportunity on the net but the problem for most people is separating the wheat from the chaff.

And you want to know the REAL secret? .... THERE IS NO SECRET!

Seriously, the main problem you'll have starting out is finding a proven system that works when the majority of available information is primarily built on greed of the seller exploiting the desperation of the buyer.

I've been at this for a few years now and serioulsly, it would strain my brain to come up with the names of more than 10 people who provide genuinely useful information at a fair price and won't spam your inbox with the latest and greatest.

The other problem most people have starting out is focus. Focusing on ONLY ONE proven system and also focusing on actually doing the work.

There are so many opportunities out there that it's easy to go broke just scratching the surface of each one and never digging deep into any of them.

Also, I think finding the right opportunity to match your personality is something a lot of people overlook. For example, if you love going to garage sales and finding buried treasure you can sell at a profit then building an ebay business would be a good route to take. Once you figure out the mechanics of how it all works from selling garage sale finds, you could start looking for suppliers so you could scale up to drop shipping, etc.

Ok, so let's assume you've already thought this step through and you've decided internet marketing is the way to go. What now? Do you want to build Adsense sites? sell Clickbank products? sell tangible products? build your own product? etc.

Personally, I think people should sell other people's products before taking on the headache of supporting their own, but again, YOU need decide what suits your long term goals and really ask yourself the question: "Am I really willing to work to build a business or am I just looking for the online equivalent of a lottery ticket?"

Assuming you've decided that affiliate marketing is the way you want to go and you want to hit the reset button because of information overload, the only complete A to Z free course that I'd feel comfortable recommending to anyone is the 30 Day Challenge (thirtydaychallenge.com) put together by Ed Dale and the makers of Market Samurai.

However, if you have some money to spend ($50/mo membership + hosting + domains + a good keyword tool or service) then I'd recommend Dave Kelly's Super Apprentice (superapprentice.com). The only downside is that listening to Dave kind of reminds me of Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, but hey it's a small price to pay for someone who never spams your inbox and provides you all the tools you'll ever need to build a true white hat internet business.

Whatever you decide on, whether it's one of the two I've listed or something else, make sure you only pick ONE PROVEN method, avoid the "make money online" niche like the plague, unsubscribe from every guru list and just FOCUS on the WORK.

Hope this helps alleviate some of your well earned frustration.


NOTE: The two sites I mentioned are NOT affiliate links. They are direct to the vendor (to the best of my knowledge).

Thanks a lot for the response... although I wish it had been different, lol.

I'm not giving up though, and will still have a few more links going up soon and will see how those go.

So are you saying George was BSing on that one? Obviously you can't know for a fact, but I'm curious as to what you think.

If he was easily making $6000 a month of one video, seems like he'd easily be able to make the same off many others, thus making tens of thousands of dollars easily from youtube buying... which he isn't based on his figures.

A little annoying considering this whole youtube buying thing was essentially used to hype up and sell TU.

Hey George, can we get some input here? Lol.

Thanks for the info, as I'm a newbie as an affiliate marketer, seeing all those gurus saying that they're all making 5-digits, 6-digits or even more per month, some are just too unrealistic for me (for a new guy), but I think if I work really hard and smart, making a 4-digit monthly is foreseeable. Although, I still have a lot of doubts of all those hyped up sales pitches, I do believe those gurus are making a fortune. It just, I don't think most people could make $120k/month, or $460/mon, after buying these products. It may take time after apply those techniques and probably need at least 6 month or even 1 year, probably even longer... to see some results....sometimes, doing IM is just getting frustrated...hrhr...but I know if I quit now, I'll not success....

Anyway, no pain no gain,

Thanks all for sharing the review of the product. I never go for any software. I dont have any trust. I like all manual process, i know it is lengthy but its not spam


Cheers

solid product be traffic ultimatum.