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Any actual members of that service here?

Is it any good?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Anything offered by the Rhodes Brothers will be great...

    These guys definitely over deliver and I imagine this to be no exception.

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    • Profile picture of the author wizlor
      Anybody has used the service and can give a review on it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by wizlor View Post

        Anybody has used the service and can give a review on it?
        Hasn't been released yet. What you saw was a pre-launch offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Anything offered by the Rhodes Brothers will be great...

      These guys definitely over deliver and I imagine this to be no exception.

      Mike Hill
      My experience with them has always been just as you have described.
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      • Profile picture of the author nursewriter
        I became a member today to get in on the pre-launch price....I trust the Rhodes brothers because I have been following them here on the warrior forum for several months.

        Everything they do is pure quality. Traffic drill is no exception.

        All I can say if you want more traffic (who doesn't) then you need to get in on this membership site.

        This site is all about members helping other members develop thier sites and about them helping each other get traffic to the sites.

        You couldn't ask for anything better!

        I think it will be a valuable resource for anyone who is trying to make it online!

        That's my review.

        Lucinda
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      • Profile picture of the author ildarius
        Thank you, I'll give it a try,

        Hopefully see you inside
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        • Profile picture of the author nursewriter
          The membership is kind of light right now.... but as mentioned before it has not actually launched yet.

          Once it really takes off it will be absolutely awesome!
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Ok, here's the real deal of what I am sure Traffic Drill will do for you.

            I have been in (finally got my arse in today) and I can tell you some of how effective it is based on something I just did today.

            These are techniques that work much more effectively with a "team" effort.

            This morning I put up a video on youtube. I used the same methods that are part of traffic drill to go from zero to over a thousand views of my video in just 13 hours.

            I will be excited tomorrow to see the traffic grow on it's own.

            The video went up under a fresh youtube user name that had never had any exposure or traffic before ever.

            There are a couple of other videos in the same topic and similar titles. They have been up for 2 months and my video has already hit three times the traffic of those.

            The service will work just fine, but you will have to put in a few measly minutes of effort to get optimum results.

            I hope that helps.
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            • Profile picture of the author Terry Ma
              Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

              Ok, here's the real deal of what I am sure Traffic Drill will do for you.

              I have been in (finally got my arse in today) and I can tell you some of how effective it is based on something I just did today.

              These are techniques that work much more effectively with a "team" effort.

              This morning I put up a video on youtube. I used the same methods that are part of traffic drill to go from zero to over a thousand views of my video in just 13 hours.

              I will be excited tomorrow to see the traffic grow on it's own.

              The video went up under a fresh youtube user name that had never had any exposure or traffic before ever.

              There are a couple of other videos in the same topic and similar titles. They have been up for 2 months and my video has already hit three times the traffic of those.

              The service will work just fine, but you will have to put in a few measly minutes of effort to get optimum results.

              I hope that helps.
              That is a classic example of the power of Web 2.0.

              I use Youtube video to drive traffic too. But I wonder
              how effective they are compare to what I am currently
              using.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                Originally Posted by Terry Ma View Post

                That is a classic example of the power of Web 2.0.

                I use Youtube video to drive traffic too. But I wonder
                how effective they are compare to what I am currently
                using.
                My goal today was to drive traffic to the video, not use the video to drive the traffic (just yet).

                The video was for an elderly client who wanted to get a message out to as many people as possible so essentially her video is the end result - although there is a link to go further if someone wants and it is included in the end of the movie.

                She will be looking at the youtube numbers as she has no idea if anyone follows up to the reference site after the fact.
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  • Wow, seems like it is worth a grab huh.
    I'm having traffic generation problem now, hope this really helps..
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      I forgot to mention, I did not pay a dime for the traffic. No google adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    The Rhodes brothers do create some quality stuff so I'm very tempted to sign up, will just hang back until I see a few reviews come in first.
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    • Profile picture of the author JJ-Undercover
      I'm going to get this later today. Really excited about its potential.

      I've been going at it alone for too long... trudging along. Time to multiply my reach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony J Namata
    I just bookmarked the sales page. Is the $19.+ a one-off fee. Coz when it goes up to $29.+ it will be monthly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    I signed up immidiately, and I love it.
    And I think ESPECIALLY squidooer's will benefit massively from this.

    But it's not only the traffic community I like. There are a lot of interesting traffic techniques they teach as well. Plus, you get 50% discount on all of their other products.

    I like it. It will be interesting to see the results over time. For now, I have gotten 90+ visits in 3 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfan
    The WSO link for traffic drill doesn't work? Anybody else have this problema?

    Rich!
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    • Profile picture of the author seree
      Originally Posted by richfan View Post

      The WSO link for traffic drill doesn't work? Anybody else have this problema?

      Rich!
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      Hi Rich,

      Use this link.

      Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    It's a membership site where the members submit,vote and rate each others websites to increase traffic and backlinks, as well as sharing tips etc.

    They also give out some other great info about traffic, as well as the members help each other.
    A really nice community that is.

    It's definately worth it so far, and I haven't even read their ebooks and watched the video's.

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    • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
      First, thanks to the members of the Warrior Forum. You guys
      are awesome.

      Second, we're doing well with the launch of Traffic Drill and
      JV'ing with Allen. It's been a blast.

      Third, and most importantly, Traffic Drill members are really
      doing fantastic. Many people are active and engaged -- that
      means traffic. And, that means money...

      Lastly, if anyone has any specific questions about Traffic Drill
      please just send me a PM. Of course, you can post questions
      here too. We're watching and listening.

      ~ John
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      • Profile picture of the author AssociateSuccess
        Is the site actually open yet? I made the paypal payment but didn't receive any login instructions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
          Originally Posted by AssociateSuccess View Post

          Is the site actually open yet? I made the paypal payment but didn't receive any login instructions.
          Yep, the site is up and running.

          You might want to PM John and tell him about that.

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        • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
          Originally Posted by AssociateSuccess View Post

          Is the site actually open yet? I made the paypal payment but didn't receive any login instructions.
          I just sent you a PM. Please send an email to the address
          I provided and we'll get you set up in no time at all.

          ~ John
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      • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
        Originally Posted by John S. Rhodes View Post


        Third, and most importantly, Traffic Drill members are really
        doing fantastic. Many people are active and engaged -- that
        means traffic. And, that means money...
        Yeah, people are active and engaged. I would almost say the price of 19$/mo is worth it even without the traffic exchange section.

        I truly enjoy helping people over there, as well as getting lots of answers and tips myself.
        Thank you so much for this great resource to all warriors

        My head is already bubbling with idea's about how to get the most out of my membership, and I think I have a great recipe going on

        There will soon be some tips and thought's on my blog, so stay tuned! ( I'm going to Iceland for a week tomorrow, but I'll post it when I get back)

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        • Profile picture of the author wizlor
          I have read through the sale pages, but i don't quite understand what is this traffic drill about? Is it a community that exchange links or a pdf manual that teaches you how to drive traffics? Is it article marketing, social bookmarking or ?
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      • Profile picture of the author HaronTawil
        Originally Posted by John S. Rhodes View Post

        First, thanks to the members of the Warrior Forum. You guys
        are awesome.

        Second, we're doing well with the launch of Traffic Drill and
        JV'ing with Allen. It's been a blast.

        Third, and most importantly, Traffic Drill members are really
        doing fantastic. Many people are active and engaged -- that
        means traffic. And, that means money...

        Lastly, if anyone has any specific questions about Traffic Drill
        please just send me a PM. Of course, you can post questions
        here too. We're watching and listening.

        ~ John
        John,

        Is this membership site suitable for newbies as well? Let's say if we have a self-hosting wordpress blog and the contents are not that much yet, are we going to benefit from the inner circle community to receive traffic to our site?
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    Very good so far, for $19 a month its a steal
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew W. Rhodes
    Hey Warriors,

    Let me try to answer your questions...

    Traffic Drill is both a community that "exchanges traffic" with each other via niche sites, and also contains multiple tips and tricks for driving traffic, including videos and manuals. 2 for the price of 1.

    Haron,

    We've discovered that a good share of our members are newbies that are looking to get started by driving traffic and gaining leverage early with their own site. We're going to be adding some step-by-step newbie materials to the members area later this week. Even if you have no site for now, we'll help you get setup.

    Hope that helps!

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author wizlor
      Originally Posted by Matthew W. Rhodes View Post

      Hey Warriors,

      Let me try to answer your questions...

      Traffic Drill is both a community that "exchanges traffic" with each other via niche sites, and also contains multiple tips and tricks for driving traffic, including videos and manuals. 2 for the price of 1.

      Matt
      Can you explain in more detail on the part of exchanges traffics. How do we go about exchange traffics?
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesTWL
      Originally Posted by Matthew W. Rhodes View Post

      Hey Warriors,

      Let me try to answer your questions...

      Traffic Drill is both a community that "exchanges traffic" with each other via niche sites, and also contains multiple tips and tricks for driving traffic, including videos and manuals. 2 for the price of 1.

      Haron,

      We've discovered that a good share of our members are newbies that are looking to get started by driving traffic and gaining leverage early with their own site. We're going to be adding some step-by-step newbie materials to the members area later this week. Even if you have no site for now, we'll help you get setup.

      Hope that helps!

      Matt
      Hi Matthew,

      How do you guys help us to set up our own web site? I need a blog currently, can you help me to set it up? I do have a wordpress blog but the free blog template theme is very limited with the free account.

      I simply love this quote, "1/2 Of Rhodes Brothers", it so cool! hahaha.... =D

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author polypro
        If I am not mistaken - this is very similar to Jason Potash's Traffic Kuhuna which is closed to new members and considerably more expensive ($147 a month). In fairness Traffic Kuhuna includes more just drop jobs to drive traffic, but a private blog and syndication network
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    • Profile picture of the author HaronTawil
      Originally Posted by Matthew W. Rhodes View Post

      Hey Warriors,

      Let me try to answer your questions...

      Traffic Drill is both a community that "exchanges traffic" with each other via niche sites, and also contains multiple tips and tricks for driving traffic, including videos and manuals. 2 for the price of 1.

      Haron,

      We've discovered that a good share of our members are newbies that are looking to get started by driving traffic and gaining leverage early with their own site. We're going to be adding some step-by-step newbie materials to the members area later this week. Even if you have no site for now, we'll help you get setup.

      Hope that helps!

      Matt
      Matt,

      Currently I have my own self-hosted wordpress site and I'm trying to generate traffic to my site. Hope your membership site can help me on this.

      I'll PM you to get your opinion.

      Regards,
      Haron
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      • Profile picture of the author raamanand
        Just signed up today. Saw the video. There are some downloads.... PDFs that I'll have to ready. Will post a review in a couple of days.

        Meanwhile, it appears good.
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    Any idea on launch date?
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    • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
      Originally Posted by sunwestdog View Post

      Any idea on launch date?
      The current public launch date is set for the 20th of October.
      There will be a limited number of memberships available before
      that through the Warrior Forum, Platinum JV Partners, and via
      our list.

      ~ John
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  • Profile picture of the author jimfurr
    Oh no!

    That means I got 4 days
    to come up with $20!

    Jim ><>
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  • Profile picture of the author David McKee
    I am giving it a try, I figure twenty bucks for a month should let me know if any traffic is being create and what the quality of that traffic is. Obviously I need to create at least 200% return or more on my investment or I cancel - simple as that.

    I am selling a huge collection of Internet Business, Marketing, Copywriting and Success-Self Development Books for $7.00.

    I will see if this service gives me at least the 20 bucks back in sales.

    David T. McKee
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew W. Rhodes
    Hey Warriors,

    Thanks for the questions!

    David, awesome to see you on board, glad that you liked it.

    raamanand, glad your first impressions are good.

    Haron, we can help anyone who has high quality, unique content on their websites, no matter what niche it is. We give you tips to better optimize your sites, get more backlinks, what SEO techniques have worked for us, and so on. (I responded to your PM, too!)

    polypro, we're not familiar with Traffic Kuhuna.

    James, we're adding some step-by-step manuals today or tomorrow for inexperienced marketers. While the focus of Traffic Drill isn't to help folks setup blogs, we have received quite a few PMs so we're going to add some manuals to help folks easily setup their own simple blogs.

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author wizlor
      Originally Posted by Matthew W. Rhodes View Post

      Hey Warriors,
      Haron, we can help anyone who has high quality, unique content on their websites, no matter what niche it is. We give you tips to better optimize your sites, get more backlinks, what SEO techniques have worked for us, and so on. (I responded to your PM, too!)

      Matt
      Do your visit our websites, and give advices on how to improve it or just through some questioning and answering method ?
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      • Profile picture of the author pixguy
        Umm, no offence guys...
        Good idea.
        But What's stopping anyone from creating a "free" community forum
        that does the same thing.
        Sort of like the Warrior forum, but a traffic forum?
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        • Profile picture of the author David McKee
          I can't speak for the Rhodes but I suspect it is a bit like this: You don't respect things that are free, that is just human nature. The forum works because the member are paying, and know they must get value from what they are putting in so that they can expect value... Now I realize that a good marketer uses many free things, article submission, forums like this, etc. But the fact is you work most diligently on those things your hard earned money is going into. AdWords clicks, or paid forums are going to weed out the lurkers and parasite types and push the members to be diligent.

          Just my 2 cents, YMMV. And like I said earlier, I am giving the forum 30 days and watching my traffic. If I see the promised traffic, I stay with it, if not, then...


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            Fair enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author BeachCruzer
    This sounds like an interesting concept. I plan to join on Sunday, the day before they officially launch. I have read a lot of nice things about the Rhodes Bros. so I look forward to participating.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Endres
      Hello John and Matt

      I was hearing some information about established large internet marketer involvement, like Gurus joining for the purpose of helping entry level internet marketers through offering their list building secrets.

      Any truth to this?

      I also heard that these Guru level marketers would willingly exchange mailings, assuming the product quality requirements were reached.

      If this is the case it is the true heart of the value in the community being developed in Traffic Drill, and I'd like to know about it
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      • Profile picture of the author zortag
        Folks
        I hate to be negative in the post title, but let me state quite clearly something here:

        Neurolinker now does everything Traffic Drill does and does it better for less money. And it does alot more in addition.

        I have nothing against the Rhodes brothers - they probably are fine internet marketers. But as pixguy pointed out, what they give you is just a forum. You post a request on the forum like "please give my site whatever.com some stumbles and furls" and then you hope people do that. They have a Kharma system so you can reward each other for doing this. But, it quickly becomes impossible to keep track of what social bookmarking tasks you have done for whom. If I post in the forum, then some number of people will bookmark my site. If I read someone else's thread, then that person and I can bookmark each other's site. But if person A submits a thread and person B and person C respond, there is no way for B and C to keep track of whether they have done anything for each other.

        Basically Traffic Drill is a "one to many" solution for what is really a "many to many" problem.

        How do I know this? I joined TD about a week ago because I thought it was an interesting concept worth checking out. And I still believe it is an interesting idea. At first I thought it could be a completely complimentary link building strategy to Neurolinker, which builds links from two sources:
        1. Identifying related websites in the system
        2. Letting users submit articles that appear with links on other websites in the system
        At first I really wanted to offer it to my subscribers as a nice compliment to Neurolinker. And at $29.95/month, it would give me some nice affiliate income. Sounded great but...

        I just couldn't bring myself to promote this system when I knew that it was implemented as a simple forum, ie a "one to many" implementation. I just couldn't bring myself to promote this when I knew that I could implement a much better system inside Neurolinker in about 3 days of work, and give my users all this capability without spending a dime extra. Perhaps I just threw away a good opportunity to make some affiliate income, but I believe that in the long term my interests (and my users' interestes) are best served by making Neurolinker absolutely the best link building system on the planet for less money than everyone else charges.

        So that's what I did. I cancelled my TD membership, bit the bullet, put in the work to do this correctly in Neurolinker and now it's live.

        If you're an existing Neurolinker user, I just saved you $29.95/month.

        What is Neurolinker's implementation and why is it better? First of all, it is NOT a forum. Instead, each user of Neurolinker has his or her websites already listed in the system because of all the other great link building things that Neurolinker does. To use the social bookmarking feature, a user just clicks a Social Bookmarking tab and gets taken to a page where everyone else's website is listed, along with checkboxes to indicate whether you have stumbled or Furled this website. In other words, each user has a personalized list of social bookmarking tasks to do. Whenever you do social BM for another user, Neurolinker gives you "brownie points", much like the "Kharma" that TD gives you. But while Kharma in TD really isn't used for anything, in Neurolinker everyone's personalized task list is presented in order such that website belonging to people with high brownie points are presented at the top of the list. So the more social bookmarking you do for other people, the more brownie points you get, and that pushes your websites to the top of other users' social bookmarking task lists! So yes, you get rewarded for doing social bookmarking for others, and the system keeps track of exactly what you have and have not done for each site for each person.

        You can also submit your Digg story to be Dugg and your Squidoo lens to be ranked, Stumbled and bookmarked. And yes, Neurolinker keeps track of bookmarking tasks for these sites as well.

        So again, Neurolinker now does everything Traffic Drill does and does it better for less money. And it does alot more in addition.

        Let's do a simple comparison:
        Neurolinker:
        - Relevant backlinks from related websites just like yours
        - Article marketing
        - free article content from others
        - Social bookmarking with "many-to-many" implementation and tracking
        - Top notch, fast tech support
        - $19.95/month (soon $27/month)

        Traffic Drill
        - Social Bookmarking implemented as a "one to many" forum with no tracking
        - $29.95/month, soon $39.95/month

        This one is really a no-brainer.

        I welcome any comments or questions.

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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew W. Rhodes
    Hi Marc,

    I saw you post a Traffic Request to your Neurolinker website inside Traffic Drill. You got many responses from fellow Traffic Drill members who happily bookmarked your Neurolinker website before you cancelled your membership and requested a refund from John and I. We're sorry to see you go!

    You missed quite a bit in your "review" of Traffic Drill. Here's some of the stuff you missed...

    1.) As many Warriors know, my brother John and I tend to lean towards making things as simple as we can. That's why Traffic Drill is built on a simple forum infrastructure. Warrior Forum is "just a forum," but you can see the amazing power it has. Take a look at the War Room - that's just a forum, too, but the value in there is absolutely outstanding.

    2.) Traffic Drill has a ton of instructional videos and manuals on promoting your website and driving traffic to your site, beyond the social bookmarking and linking system in the "Traffic Exchange" section. We show you what has worked for us. We're also going to be adding more traffic building content every month. Building backlinks blindly isn't going to do much for you.

    3.) People have already gotten proven results from Traffic Drill and are getting real traffic. John and I have personally used the Traffic Exchange section in Traffic Drill is request a stumble on one of our blog entries, "How to Survive a Financial Crisis" over at IMsimple.com. We've gotten over 500 visitors from our single request. (Note: there are other members in the Traffic Drill members area who have gotten more stumbles and bookmarks than we have. Our results ARE typical.)

    4.) Traffic Drill is completely natural traffic. No "automated systems" or anything like that, it's real people helping one another. There's no database of unknown websites, it's people with real niche sites who are helping each other improve their search engine rankings and drive more traffic. It also means that Traffic Drill users won't get banned and can choose sites that *they* like to social bookmark. We encourage them NOT to bookmark sites they don't find helpful. It's more than just a random assignment.

    5.) Traffic Drill has a community. That means networking, finding new friends, JV partners, and also a "mastermind mindset" that allows Traffic Drill members to help each other make more money (that's the point of more traffic, right?) In fact, we just added a "site review and critique" forum to Traffic Drill, in which we, along with other TD members, help people make their websites more SEO friendly, and also more profitable.

    6.) Our karma system makes sure that people are truly helping each other. No one is simply getting traffic - they're participating, which in turn helps everyone. It helps others get more traffic, it helps them build a reputation, which in turn drives them more traffic. It also gives them an incentive, as a higher karma means that people are more likely to help you. It's not meant to be a currency, it's a measure of how helpful you are in the community.

    7.) We already have over 250 active members inside Traffic Drill, which means the community has already been established. There aren't going to be 1 or 2 other folks bookmarking your sites, there will be a lot more.

    8.) You don't even need to have your own website to bookmark your content inside Traffic Drill, you simply need to have some high quality content publicly available - you can have other Traffic Drill members bookmark and/or link to an article of yours, if you'd like.

    9.) Traffic Drill Members also get personal access to John and I - we're proven marketers, we've been around her for well over a year and a half now. Ask anyone who's dealt with us and I can guarantee they'll have good things to say. We're making 6 figures per year part time, so needless to say, we know our stuff. We know what works and what doesn't. Oh, and we also provide superb customer service, as you know.

    By the way, Traffic Drill is $19.95 currently to Warriors, NOT $29.95 as you state. $29.95 is the public price.

    Saying your service provides everything Traffic Drill does is a gross misinterpretation, plain and simple. You're comparing apples to oranges.

    Good luck with your new site.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      One thing that needs to be kept in mind with Traffic Exchange traffic is that it is generally low converting, whether that's for opt-in leads or for sales.

      A key reason for this is that the primary interest of those taking part is to obtain traffic for their own sites - they aren't interested in buying anything on the sites they visit to meet obligations.

      Hence the most successful users of traffic exchanges tend use squeeze pages for a landing page and the offer is usually to do with list building, traffic building and the like.

      If you have a niche website, say design jewelry, and you send internet marketers to that site, the traffic numbers will soar but sales will be non-existent.

      These comments don't apply to back linking, which can be valuable in boosting the position of a web page on Google's/Yahoo's search engine displays.

      Those wanting traffic exchange traffic can get it for nothing. Just select from the top-rated exchanges listed here:

      Top Traffic Exchanges

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      Don't waste your time Mathew. From a fellow traffic driller, just jump on board. The results speak for themselves. Yes it is new, but with time and development this will blow anything out of the water.
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    • Profile picture of the author zortag
      Hi All
      Let me answer Matthew and Preben directly.

      Preben: "way less legit?" Apparently I haven't yet provided enough information for you to realize how absurd this comment is. So I will do that below.

      As for Traffic Drill, I'll state again that I have nothing against TD or the Rhodes brothers - they seem to have a good reputation and responsiveness and I'm sure that TD works fine if you spend lots of your time posting on their forum. And yes I tried it for a week or so, thought it was a decent system, but with some limitations. I'm just saying that yes, I have implemented a better solution, and I will tell you why, point by point. Matthew listed 9 or 10 points about Traffic Drill. Let me address each one:

      1) Simplicity. Sure, making a forum for people to post their requests is simple. It is especially simple for the developer to create. But just because it is simple to create and simple to use doesn't mean it is the best solution for this problem. A bicycle is simple, but that doesn't mean I would use it to travel from LA to Chicago. Choosing the right solution is more important than choosing the simple solution.
      Anyone who uses the Neurolinker interface will tell you that the Neurolinker Social Bookmarking interface is easy too. Each user has a list of Social BM tasks to do. Do the task, check a box, hit submit. That's it. And Neurolinker keeps track of everything you have done for everyone else. Again, it keeps track of the "many to many" bookmarking interactions. A forum lets one person communicate with everyone else. That's "1 to N". The 1 poster can keep track of the N interactions with N people. The Neurolinker approach lets everyone do bookmarking for everyone else, and quite easily. That's "N to N". It lets N people keep track of each of their interactions with N people. With Neurolinker you always know what exactly you have done for whom, because you have a big task list of checkboxes. Just keep bookmarking until all the checkboxes go away. This is very simple, yet it keep track of everything.

      2. Videos. Yes TrafficDrill has some instructional videos. I do indeed think these videos are instructive and useful, and I think the Rhodes bros did a good job on these. These will be especially useful for people who are new and don't know much about how to get traffic or why to build blogs on free blog sites. For people who already know that they need backlinks and keyword rich content to drive traffic, these videos will be less useful. Are the videos themselves worth the $19.95/month warrior price or $29.95 regular price? I'll let you guys decide.

      3. Proven results. Yes, the Rhodes bros have I'm sure achieved great results with these traffic methods. I have no reason to dobt that. And yes the concept behind Traffic Drill works fine. That's why I implemented this idea more efficiently in Neurolinker. It is indeed a good idea, no question. I just realized that the forum approach was not the best way to kep track of everything.

      By the way, Neurolinker has a forum too, a forum that has been active as long as Neurolinker has been active. Anyone who wants to interact and learn about traffic, exchange social BM tips or whatever can already do so in the Neurolinker forum. I could have just duplicated the TD forum in the Neurolinker forum, but I chose to implement it better.

      4. Natural Traffic. The heart of TD is having people do lots of social BM for each other. That's a great idea, and that's why I implemented it in Neurolinker. But in addition, Neurolinker matches up other websites in the system that are related to yours. In other words, it gives you one way links from relevant websites just like yours. And you have control over what backlinks you accept. So Neurolinker is really a "link suggestion" service, very white hat, and not something the search engines are likely to object to. Furthermore, it has an article marketing component that lets you submit articles to the system and get your articles with your backlinks posted in sites around the network. I thought it was generally recognized that Article Marketing is also "natural traffic". So the "natural traffic" argument really doesn't hold water. Neurolinker gives natural traffic from bunches of relevant one way backlinks from several different and complimentary approaches: automated relevant website links, article marketing links, and social BM links. TD just gives social BM links.

      5. Community. TD has a forum. That's great. So does Neurolinker.

      6. Kharma system. In TD, people can check your Kharma and decide whether to do anything for you. Or not. In Neurolinker, people with the most "brownie points" (like Kharma) wll have their sites listed at the top of other users's BM task lists. So the more BM you do, the more BM others will do for you. This is promoted directly by the Neurolinker system. And as I said, you never have to try to remember what you did for whom. Your BM tasks are right there in front of you on your task list. Just keep BMing and clicking submit until you're done. Couldn't be easier.

      7. 250 members. Yes Neurolinker has about that many users too.

      8. Don't need your own website. Matthew is right. If you are someone who doesn't even have their own website, you won't be able to use Neurolinker. If you are someone who doesn't even have their own website, well, good luck in making money on the web. When you get to the point where you realize you need to have your own website (and probably several of your own websites) then come give Neurolinker a try.

      9. Personal access. I'm sure the Rhodes bros do a great job of interacting with their members. So do I. Anyone in Neurolinker can tell you I respond to support requests often within minutes of receiving them. I have had numerous phonecalls with people one on one to help get them set up. In fact, in some cases I have logged in to their websites and/or Cpanels and set things up for them. My customer service is unmatched in its responsiveness.

      10. Yes the price for Warriors is $19.95/month. I stand corrected. The cost for Neurolinker is also $19.95/month.

      Looking closely at the above list, it seems to me that the fair thing to say is that this is "almost" an apples to apples comparison. TD has some instructional videos that Neurolinker doesn't have (yet) and the Rhodes bros obviously have a loyal following on WF. That's fine, I wish them well. But when it comes to what each system gives you to actually generate traffic, Neurolinker gives you every social BM tool that TD does, and implements it better (a "many to many" set of task lists). The cost of the two systems is the same for Warriors. For the general public, Neurolinker is cheaper. Plus, Neurolinker gives you links from related websites, links from your articles, and free content from other users' related articles appearing on your website, inside your template with your Adsense and affiliate links.

      I hope I have addressed the "legit" comment. If you still think I'm blowing smoke, then I say two things. First, I've been developing software and technology for 26 years, first as an aerospace engineer designing spacecraft guidance and control systems, then as a Director of R&D at a neural networks related software company, then as president of my own wireless gaming company, and now as developer of Neurolinker. Along the way I earned a PhD in Aerospace Engineering, a MS in Nuclear Engineering and a BS in Physics. I've secured US Givernment funded R&D contracts totalling almost $10M in areas like information retrieval and image processing, receiving numerous honors and awards along the way. Feel free to look at my (several years old) resume here: Resume for Dr. Marc Ilgen - Software developer, technology research engineer, wireless game designer. So yes, I know what I'm doing.

      Secondly, anyone who wants to can check out Neurolinker risk free. There is a 60 day money back guarantee. If you don't like it you get your money back quickly, no hassles whatsoever. You are all welcome to try it, even Preben who should have perhaps taken a look so he would know what he's talking about before randomly disparaging it.

      Again, I wish everyone success. If you love TD then great, I wish you and the Rhodes bros well. If you have some websites and you already know what you need to do (get backlinks) and you just want the most efficient option to actually do it, then take a look at Neurolinker.

      Marc Ilgen, Ph.D.
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      I am confused. I signed up yesterday or the day before, I don't remember. So I think what I bought into was a forum. Is that it? Are there any instructions anywhere on how this magic is going to produce traffic? I know I sound cynical but I just don't get it. Yes, I am a newbie.
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      • Profile picture of the author wizlor
        Originally Posted by timpears View Post

        I am confused. I signed up yesterday or the day before, I don't remember. So I think what I bought into was a forum. Is that it? Are there any instructions anywhere on how this magic is going to produce traffic? I know I sound cynical but I just don't get it. Yes, I am a newbie.
        You are not wrong.... its a forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew W. Rhodes
    Ivan,

    The "Traffic Exchange" doesn't literally mean a Traffic Exchange, it's people helping people via bookmarking and networking. It's not internet marketers sending traffic to sites such as jewelry.

    It's folks bookmarking each other based on the quality of their sites, and niche sites in similar niches linking to each other.

    In other words, it builds relevant backlinks for SEO purposes and also provides extra targeted traffic to your sites.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
    ...and not just bookmarking and networking. Even that is wrong.

    The truth is that the traffic exchange inside Traffic Drill allows
    people to ask for YouTube and Squidoo ratings. It allows for
    people to ask for mentions in blog postings. It's mini-reviews
    on sites and blog comments with backlinks. And yes, more.

    ~ John
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Getting to know some of the people has been worth the $20. Doing something for somebody else, priceless.

    Okay, that was a little melodramatic, but the forum is the best way to connect with people. I have been doing this part time for about eight months and am just starting to see a little fruit.

    One of the ways that has happened is that I am moving away from ebooks and guru courses (Traffic Secrets was the last I will buy for a while) and getting into coaching, relationships and JVs. I am finally seeing how IM works and am making money.

    The more I connect, the more I learn. The more I do with what I learn, the more money I make.

    Traffic Drill allows me to connect. Frankly, if you are new (heck I am really still rather new myself) and doing this part time, you need to get with people...not books and mp3s. It will cost you more time and money, but you will have more space on your hard drive (without 10,000 pdfs) and more real knowledge to implement. And heck, with a relationship, you can even ask a question.

    "Even if it's 2 am in the morning".

    I am a happy member of Traffic Drill and the community is what I really like probably even more than the backlinks. I don't even have to worry about being tempted by the fruit of a WSO (lol).

    On my everyday to do/learn list is the WF and Traffic Drill.

    The fact that I put it up there with the WF (better known as the crackpipe) says a lot.

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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    Folks
    I hate to be negative in the post title, but let me state quite clearly something here:

    Neurolinker now does everything Traffic Drill does and does it better for less money. And it does alot more in addition.
    Hmm...Neurolinker sounds good as well, but it sounds way less "legit" than trafficdrill.
    I am a member there myself, and I like it. I haven't gotten a lot of traffic yet, but some is coming, and the community IS awesome. Everyone are really helpful, and the resources you provide is great. Yes it is. I haven't read all of the ebooks yet, or watched all of the videos, but I've read some posts, and it's simple and good.

    Not like the 170+pages $67 e-books, which usually has at least 100 pages you don't have to read.

    The possibility to read a forum post in 5 mins, AND learn more useful tips than a 50 page ebook is priceless.

    You read a post, then you follow the advice. No notes, no nothing. As easy as it gets. - I haven't started promoting it yet, but I think I will. The community and resources itself is worth it. I will see how it works out in a while. As well as finding what works best and tell my readers.
    For now, it's well worth it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    Hey again Marc!
    I'm sorry about that "Way less legit" comment. It wasn't meant that way.
    What I meant with that, is that it seems you can't choose what to BM yourself. So that means your social bookmarking accounts will have bookmarks in any niche, which can easily get you banned as I have understood. THAT was what I meant. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

    And I'm sure neurolinker is good. I have actually checked out your salespage, but I haven't finished the video yet. It looks interesting.

    A few things though...

    3. Proven results. Yes, the Rhodes bros have I'm sure achieved great results with these traffic methods. I have no reason to dobt that. And yes the concept behind Traffic Drill works fine. That's why I implemented this idea more efficiently in Neurolinker. It is indeed a good idea, no question. I just realized that the forum approach was not the best way to kep track of everything.
    Agreed.
    It's not that easy to keep track of everything when it's a forum. - The good thing is that you can interact with anyone in every post, and PM people with questions and suggestions anytime when they write something.

    It applies for your forum as well, but I'm sure there are people who most likely never use the forum. - So you your chances of networking is a bit smaller. ( I haven't tried it or seen it, but that's how I feel about it now)

    But I'm sure your system is great. It also looks great in the video. ( so far...)

    Furthermore, it has an article marketing component that lets you submit articles to the system and get your articles with your backlinks posted in sites around the network. I thought it was generally recognized that Article Marketing is also "natural traffic". So the "natural traffic" argument really doesn't hold water.
    This won't work unless you spun the articles. Only one will show up in the search engines, so I feel the term "backlink" wouldn't have much to say here. However, you probably get traffic from the website itself, and that's good.
    But then again, the one who publish it lose the traffic to you, so it will be like a traffic exchange.

    9. Personal access. I'm sure the Rhodes bros do a great job of interacting with their members. So do I. Anyone in Neurolinker can tell you I respond to support requests often within minutes of receiving them. I have had numerous phonecalls with people one on one to help get them set up. In fact, in some cases I have logged in to their websites and/or Cpanels and set things up for them. My customer service is unmatched in its responsiveness.
    I'm sure your support is great. The fact that you even install things on your customers websites is awesome.
    I'm not sure the Rhodes brothers have time for that, but I'm sure someone on the forum has - So that shouldn't be a problem.
    And they are very active on the forum, so they will answer your questions really fast as well.

    At last, I might even try out Neurolinker anytime soon. I'll just read some more on the salespage and finish the video, then we'll see.

    Might work out well to combine the 2 of them

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    • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
      Originally Posted by zortag View Post

      Thanks for the clarification Preben, and thanks for your comments.

      As for article spinning, it is already inside Neurolinker. For some reason, several people have brought up this issue saying "well, you really need article spinning or it won't work so well." I agree. That's why article spinning is already in Neurolinker.. I put in a really powerful article spinner right when I launched the article module in Neurolinker, so it's been there from the beginning. I have tutorials inside that explain exactly how to use it, with examples.

      Thanks again
      Marc
      Ah, okay. Then it works. You didn't mention that in your above post, so I thought it was just another useless "article submitter" thing. - Which doesn't give the publishers any advantages either!

      But okay, spinner is cool
      Will probably check out neurolinker anytime soon, when I finish a few of my most important projects.
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  • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
    Marc (zortag):

    You've hijacked several threads about Traffic Drill for the ultimate
    purpose of promoting your own service. Please stop.

    Look, I'm all for people making money but you've crossed the line too
    many times. If people were asking about Neurolinker or if this thread
    were reviewing your service then you'd have every right to talk so much
    about it. In fact, I'd be in your corner -- helping you promote it.

    Look at the very first posting by ildarius. When he kicked this off it was
    to find out more about Traffic Drill. It was a very targeted question.
    In that spirit several traffic Drill members provided their
    assessment.

    If the situation were reversed, do you think it would be appropriate
    for someone to post their biased review of their competing service in
    every thread that mentioned your service? I don't think that's good
    business practice.

    I especially don't think it's appropriate to post in 20 different threads
    about your service in your competitor's membership site (Traffic Drill),
    then cancel and request a refund.

    I don't want to create any hard feelings here so I'm going to end
    there and respectfully ask that we get back to the topic.

    I sincerely wish you the best with Neurolinker.

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    • Profile picture of the author zortag
      John

      Ok fine. I have no interest in creating any unnecessary friction here, and I wish you all the best with Traffic Drill.

      But for the record, I was not a competitor when I joined Traffic Drill. Neurolinker had no social bookmarking component at that point. So all I was doing inside TD was posting and/or answering posts regarding social bookmarks for my site, just like any other user would. I used the system for a week and evaluated it both for my own use and for possibly promoting it as an affiliate. As I said before, and still say, the idea behind TD is a good idea. I'm sure people who use it will get good results. I don't question that. But I chose not to continue with TD for reasons I have already outlined. You may agree or disagree with my opinions I formed while using the system, that's fine, but I certainly don't agree with your claim that I have done something "inappropriate" by trying out your system and then deciding to go in a different direction for reasons I believe I have more than adequately defended.

      Anyway, I'm sure TD will work fine to generate traffic for your users. I hope you and your users do well with it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Russell Mangel
      Originally Posted by John S. Rhodes View Post

      Marc (zortag):

      You've hijacked several threads about Traffic Drill for the ultimate
      purpose of promoting your own service. Please stop.

      Look, I'm all for people making money but you've crossed the line too
      many times. If people were asking about Neurolinker or if this thread
      were reviewing your service then you'd have every right to talk so much
      about it. In fact, I'd be in your corner -- helping you promote it.

      Look at the very first posting by ildarius. When he kicked this off it was
      to find out more about Traffic Drill. It was a very targeted question.
      In that spirit several traffic Drill members provided their
      assessment.

      If the situation were reversed, do you think it would be appropriate
      for someone to post their biased review of their competing service in
      every thread that mentioned your service? I don't think that's good
      business practice.

      I especially don't think it's appropriate to post in 20 different threads
      about your service in your competitor's membership site (Traffic Drill),
      then cancel and request a refund.

      I don't want to create any hard feelings here so I'm going to end
      there and respectfully ask that we get back to the topic.

      I sincerely wish you the best with Neurolinker.

      ~ John
      First let me say that I'm not a member of either Traffic Drill or Neurolinker, but I've been considering both of these services. And I don't feel any particular allegiance to Marc or the Rhode brothers.

      But Marc you need to learn some marketing manners. IMO the Rhodes bros have shown remarkable patience and restraint with you commandeering threads specifically about their product.

      You just don't do that, especially here in the Warrior forum. I don't care if it is effective or not, you are not gaining any friends or good karma by using this tactic.

      You seem like an intelligent guy so I'm really surprised at how blatantly you've been self-promoting while trying to show their service is inferior...not cool.

      That said, I'm still considering your service. I'd just like to see you mind your marketing manners better and respect your fellow Warriors...Karma!

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Endres
    No Offence Zortag,

    I would definately consider neurolinker on its merits, but I must completely agree with Russel, to the point that I was going to write the post he did, so now I can only agree with it.

    At this point I still have good general respect for you. Please do not go off topic in any more traffic drill threads about neurolinker

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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    forum means work, communication, bookmarking, sharing etc..etc...i get the idea. I pass since I am lazy..this looks like work as in "that one time, at DP forum" when it was still legal to share stumbles and diggs.
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    If I am passing my niche site around and asking people to stumble, digg or whatever my site, what's to keep them from swiping my site? That just seems like a risky thing to be doing in a forum of marketers. Hell it would be worth $20 a month to join just to see what everybody else is promoting / selling.
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    • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
      Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

      If I am passing my niche site around and asking people to stumble, digg or whatever my site, what's to keep them from swiping my site? That just seems like a risky thing to be doing in a forum of marketers. Hell it would be worth $20 a month to join just to see what everybody else is promoting / selling.
      Don:

      We tell people about most of our niche web sites. Yes, someone
      could steal our work. But really, there is so much we do beyond
      our sites that it doesn't matter much. There's a whole "machine"
      behind every niche site we run. What's more, we've actually
      found that some small level of competition helps us in Google.
      That's a report we need to write...

      And finally, there are MUCH better ways to "spy" on people.

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  • Profile picture of the author JackieLee
    This thread has kind of gone dead. I'm wondering the same thing DonDavis asked above.

    I also wonder now that it's been a couple months since the launch if people are getting the traffic they expected.

    David are you still a member at Traffic Drill? Your month test time has passed. ?

    Thanks,

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      Banned
      I am also curious as to how this is going for members.
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      • Profile picture of the author timpears
        I was a member shortly after it got started and was confused as to how it was supposed to work. There didn't seem to be any instructions and I was lost. I made a couple of negative comments regarding my confusion and the lack of response. There didn't seem to be any traffic to speak of so where this huge amount of traffic would derive from was beyond me. I finally contacted one of the Rhodes brothers directly for answers and was told that I was too negative and he canceled my account.

        Another member sent me a message indicating that he also was not satisfied and was going to cancel before the monthly renewal came due as he also found it a waste of time and money.

        Maybe things have got better with time. I don't know. If I was given a chance to resubscribe, I wouldn't. Even if my first month was free.
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        • Profile picture of the author John S. Rhodes
          Originally Posted by timpears View Post

          I was a member shortly after it got started and was confused as to how it was supposed to work. There didn't seem to be any instructions and I was lost. I made a couple of negative comments regarding my confusion and the lack of response. There didn't seem to be any traffic to speak of so where this huge amount of traffic would derive from was beyond me. I finally contacted one of the Rhodes brothers directly for answers and was told that I was too negative and he canceled my account.

          Another member sent me a message indicating that he also was not satisfied and was going to cancel before the monthly renewal came due as he also found it a waste of time and money.

          Maybe things have got better with time. I don't know. If I was given a chance to resubscribe, I wouldn't. Even if my first month was free.
          Hi Tim,

          Thanks for offering up your opinion. It will help others decide whether
          or not they should join Traffic Drill.

          As you indicated, you did make some negative postings. They were
          simply not constructive or useful to members. We took action. We
          also apologized to you privately and we'll apologize publicly too.

          As for results...

          Many members are enjoying a surge of traffic. These members are
          active and engaged. They ask and they receive. I am also actively
          involved so that I can monitor results. All is well.

          Our members recognize that getting 4-5 Diggs, or some Stumbles,
          or getting mentioned on Twitter, or getting backlinks, or getting
          mentioned in a blog, or getting well bookmarked by 15 people in
          Del.icio.us and so on really ads up. But, will it work for anyone?

          Nope.

          Some tools and products just won't work for some people. We know
          that and we work with our customers to make progress and generate
          cash. If they don't we work, we push forward some more. And, in
          some cases, we refund them.

          ~ John
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigsofty
    I'm currently looking to get serious about my marketing but have doubts about both services.

    The automated thing sounds great but I greatly dislike the idea of placing code on my site that basically tells search engines what I'm doing. This is the same reason I don't use any recip' link software either.

    I also don't like the idea of my hard-earned backlinks disappearing the moment I decide to cancel, be that the first month of 5 years later.

    As for the one that is basically a forum, I have twice paid money to join forums recently and have been disappointed on both occasions. I've found the free forum here to offer most of what I'm after in terms of general knowledge but lacking a bit in terms of Joint ventures or co-operative stuff. In that sense Traffic Drill sounds great but I'm just not willing to fork out again for yet another forum.

    Ideally what I'd like is the automated system but where links and articles are placed manually, then checked automatically. Then each site is a natural site without any give-away code on it.

    So me, I'm passing on both for now but would like to say I actually enjoyed reading both services arguing their merits and personally I thought both were polite and professional - but maybe that's jus' me.


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      Completely understandable.

      What I will say is that it is hard to know what products and services
      will work perfectly for you. We make a lot of investments and many
      of them don't work out. However, without jumping in, there's no way
      to know. And, there's no way to test.

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