by lusi34
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I got email from Vita vee today about 9-5 annihilation. Has anyone bought this course? He said he can get 500,000 page views in just 48 hours and $144,000 with a software.

Wow, if this is true, then everybody can make huge money online.

I would appreciate honest feedback from you guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vlad Shelest
    Just bought it, certainly comes with a lot of promise... I'll post in a couple of days.

    So far, most of the links in the members area don't work, but they promise that they will all be working within 24 hours basically.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian York
    I have not bought the product.

    But I know that many of the past launches from these guys have had a lot of hype that the products don't live up to.

    Don't think for a moment that all you have to do is push 3 buttons, then relax and wait for the money to come in.

    "STEP ONE

    Use our push-button software tools to build a proven, profitable website.

    You DON'T need to be an expert in your niche or even have your own product. Just kick back and let our software do all the hard work for you!

    STEP TWO

    Take brutal advantage of Google's "backdoor" loopholes using our automated software... blast your website to the top of the rankings... and send a stream of 100% free traffic to YOUR website

    STEP THREE

    Plug in some affiliate links... sit back and relax... and watch as our proven system dumps stacks of cold, hard cash into your bank account on complete auto-pilot."

    This screams BS to me.

    Of course this is just my opinion and I do not have the product.
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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    I bought it hours ago and so far the only thing available is a pdf. Not impressed at all - I think the lads are down the local having a few beers with my money - just teasing.

    Why launch something and then not be ready? Talk about unprofessional! The software should be there and the instructions and the forum. Everything should have been tested 20 times BEFORE launching - not getting the software loaded the day of the launch - or 12 hours after the launch. If it was my business opportunity out there I'd have made sure it was 110% ready and I'd be on the forum to answer all the questions.

    They are trying to sell a subscription to the 'Elite' area where you will get their personal attention - I don't think I'll be buying in - I'm not impressed so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
    Hey Guys,

    I'm "J", Kieran's anonymous partner, the guy behind the monster method. I've written a good chunk of the course material, and I'll be providing support in the 9to5annihilation.com forums. Kieran is the main man handling everything else, and he's working his ass off at the moment to fix the last minute glitches.

    Kieran does move fast to get things done. He gave away a link building tool a couple of days before launch and got a bunch of feedback on it. He had a new improved version out based on the feedback within a day or so!

    Kieran and I are committed to making sure everyone who follows the course gets the most out of it. We can only apologize about our initial screw up, and aim to move forward and get you guys making some cash ASAP.

    But I know that many of the past launches from these guys have had a lot of hype that the products don't live up to.
    A lot of products? This is our first public launch other than a wordpress theme from Kieran - you must have us mistaken with someone else.

    Being tarred with the same brush as the slimey IM 'gurus' out there comes with the territory, so we don't really mind. I completely understand that people come to this with a skeptical mind given some of the other poor products out there.

    Like in any business circle there are the good apples and the bad apples. We're striving to be as awesome of a good apples as we can be

    We're not big well know Internet Marketers, and its probably the first time you have ever heard of Kieran. We mostly make our money from real sites targeted at normal people - consumers - and were not wrapped up in the infoproduct, b2b or IM niches. For me 95% of my income comes from consumer orientated sites up to now.

    I think we are very unique in our approaches and have something really valuable to share that can be applied to almost any niche. Kieran and I will be sharing some real examples so you can see exactly how we do this - but we of course have our sites that nobody knows about, which we'll keep to ourselves to protect our regular income (although for me my sites are quite developed so its hard to compete with me anyway).

    So this is our first time sharing our strategies, and we've been unable to foresee all the problems we might hit during the launch, and we hit one. But Kieran has sorted it extremely quickly and is getting everything ready for you to move forward and make some cash.

    If you can't forgive us for this screw up we completely understand, it shouldn't have happened and we take full responsibility. We have a refund policy in place and we will stand by it, no hard feelings and we'll take it as a lesson learned.

    For those that can let it slide and want to sink their teeth into this course I'm looking forward to chatting to you all tomorrow in the forum.

    Too Much Hype?
    Kieran has created a lot of Hype for this launch, there's no doubt about that. For one I think this hype is justified, and the stats and numbers you see are all real. Also we are marketers after all, so you should expect nothing other than an exciting, juicy and intriguing sales page from us.

    Remember that everything we discuss on 9to5annihilation.com homepage will require work, we are up front about that. If you think this is too good to be true just remember that we're not going to deliver a mystical red button to your door that when pressed empties cash into your room, but we'll give you something analogous to that in the real world.

    I never purchased a course when I started out, and I wish I had, because I struggled for the first couple of years working 70+ hours a week. Having a blueprint guide will drastically cut the time needed to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author thinredline
      I searched one keyword "best ipad accessories" that your site ranked No.1 (bestipadaccessoaries.co.uk), but could not find it anywhere. The funny thing is that one site iPad Accessories - Best iPad Cases - Top Apple iPad Add-ons has no content at all but lists on top 10. How could they do that?
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      • Profile picture of the author KevinBarham
        Hi Kieran
        I joined on the 30th and so far I'm sorry to say that I have to agree with others in saying that I'm not too impressed with all the broken links.

        I downloaded the one available PDF and read it - All looks v.interesting.

        Would love to get cracking with this.

        Are you able to give us any update as to when you realistically think it will all be live? The information in the membership home page (dated 31st) says that it will all be live in 14 hours and with regards to the forum: "Forums will be live 31st March 12PM NOON EST at the latest" - However I still get a dead link.

        Good Luck with correcting your bug
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      • Profile picture of the author cherryl
        Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

        I searched one keyword "best ipad accessories" that your site ranked No.1 (bestipadaccessoaries.co.uk), but could not find it anywhere. The funny thing is that one site iPad Accessories - Best iPad Cases - Top Apple iPad Add-ons has no content at all but lists on top 10. How could they do that?
        I am still not impressed "best ipad accessories" ranked #1 when there are no results(searchers) data in google UK adwords tool. Maybe, this just kind of a new product launched style and using their brand name as keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author hogiej
          Has anyone purchased the "elite" version of this program? The cost is $57 per month. I really hate these monthly subscription programs; but if it's effective, it may be worth looking into.
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          • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
            Originally Posted by hogiej View Post

            Has anyone purchased the "elite" version of this program? The cost is $57 per month. I really hate these monthly subscription programs; but if it's effective, it may be worth looking into.
            The monthly cost mainly covers the fact we will providing very close support to you on an ongoing basis where you can ask us questions and get feedback so we can keep you on the fastest path to making more money online.

            There's a variety of other perks too as we save the some great stuff for the elite group.
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            • Profile picture of the author danblack
              Originally Posted by "J" View Post

              The monthly cost mainly covers the fact we will providing very close support to you on an ongoing basis where you can ask us questions and get feedback so we can keep you on the fastest path to making more money online.

              There's a variety of other perks too as we save the some great stuff for the elite group.
              OK "J" (and Kieran), what's the total cost up front (including all the OTO's, etc...) and the monthly fee I need to get started? Can you email me that information? I have lots of time to work on this currently, and I'm pretty knowledgeable about creating websites, using photoshop etc...

              In other words, I have the ability to become one of your success stories, which could be another testimonial added to your list. I would also ask for a warrior special... if you can still give one?

              I'll sign up for the elite monthly program with you guys to show my commitment to your program, and all I ask is for some discount or bonus on the front end to get started.

              Thanks,
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              • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
                Originally Posted by danblack View Post

                OK "J" (and Kieran), what's the total cost up front (including all the OTO's, etc...) and the monthly fee I need to get started? Can you email me that information? I have lots of time to work on this currently, and I'm pretty knowledgeable about creating websites, using photoshop etc...

                In other words, I have the ability to become one of your success stories, which could be another testimonial added to your list. I would also ask for a warrior special... if you can still give one?

                I'll sign up for the elite monthly program with you guys to show my commitment to your program, and all I ask is for some discount or bonus on the front end to get started.

                Thanks,
                Dan Black
                $67 for the course material itself, and a separate $57 per month for Elite membership (first 7 days free).

                Sorry no discounts are available at this time.
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        • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
          Originally Posted by cherryl View Post

          I am still not impressed "best ipad accessories" ranked #1 when there are no results(searchers) data in google UK adwords tool. Maybe, this just kind of a new product launched style and using their brand name as keywords.
          Kieran is smart enough to rank for a keyword term BEFORE the traffic starts coming. We teach you how to do this in the course.

          Surely you can see that ranking for a main term in the UK market for the biggest product Apple has launched since the iPhone is awesome. Kieran is aiming for $100/day with that site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Cook
      Originally Posted by "J" View Post

      Hey Guys,

      I'm "J", Kieran's anonymous partner, the guy behind the monster method. I've written a good chunk of the course material, and I'll be providing support in the 9to5annihilation.com forums. Kieran is the main man handling everything else, and he's working his ass off at the moment to fix the last minute glitches.

      Kieran does move fast to get things done. He gave away a link building tool a couple of days before launch and got a bunch of feedback on it. He had a new improved version out based on the feedback within a day or so!

      Kieran and I are committed to making sure everyone who follows the course gets the most out of it. We can only apologize about our initial screw up, and aim to move forward and get you guys making some cash ASAP.


      A lot of products? This is our first public launch other than a wordpress theme from Kieran - you must have us mistaken with someone else.

      Being tarred with the same brush as the slimey IM 'gurus' out there comes with the territory, so we don't really mind. I completely understand that people come to this with a skeptical mind given some of the other poor products out there.

      Like in any business circle there are the good apples and the bad apples. We're striving to be as awesome of a good apples as we can be

      We're not big well know Internet Marketers, and its probably the first time you have ever heard of Kieran. We mostly make our money from real sites targeted at normal people - consumers - and were not wrapped up in the infoproduct, b2b or IM niches. For me 95% of my income comes from consumer orientated sites up to now.

      I think we are very unique in our approaches and have something really valuable to share that can be applied to almost any niche. Kieran and I will be sharing some real examples so you can see exactly how we do this - but we of course have our sites that nobody knows about, which we'll keep to ourselves to protect our regular income (although for me my sites are quite developed so its hard to compete with me anyway).

      So this is our first time sharing our strategies, and we've been unable to foresee all the problems we might hit during the launch, and we hit one. But Kieran has sorted it extremely quickly and is getting everything ready for you to move forward and make some cash.

      If you can't forgive us for this screw up we completely understand, it shouldn't have happened and we take full responsibility. We have a refund policy in place and we will stand by it, no hard feelings and we'll take it as a lesson learned.

      For those that can let it slide and want to sink their teeth into this course I'm looking forward to chatting to you all tomorrow in the forum.

      Too Much Hype?
      Kieran has created a lot of Hype for this launch, there's no doubt about that. For one I think this hype is justified, and the stats and numbers you see are all real. Also we are marketers after all, so you should expect nothing other than an exciting, juicy and intriguing sales page from us.

      Remember that everything we discuss on 9to5annihilation.com homepage will require work, we are up front about that. If you think this is too good to be true just remember that we're not going to deliver a mystical red button to your door that when pressed empties cash into your room, but we'll give you something analogous to that in the real world.

      I never purchased a course when I started out, and I wish I had, because I struggled for the first couple of years working 70+ hours a week. Having a blueprint guide will drastically cut the time needed to make money.
      nice & thanks for sparing time for writing this
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  • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
    That's Kierans site but I'll jump in and answer as its night time in the UK right now.

    That site is targeted for UK visitors, and would generate revenue from UK affiliates, hence the co.uk domain. Considering how electronics always seem to be more expensive in the UK, commissions would likely be higher than the U.S.

    It ranks #1 in the UK for me (using google.co.uk). Google's personalization of results may produce slightly different results for you, but you should see it high up.
    Link: google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=best+ipad+accessories

    Generally .co.uk sites tend not to rank very high on other Google sites, which makes perfect sense.


    MODERATOR I can confirm that it is number one in the UK
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    • Profile picture of the author anaconda
      Hi Kieran and J - I'm pleased you're not at the pub although I'm sure you deserve a drink - when you get this sorted! I'm also sure you wanted to rock everyone's socks off with your first release but at this stage it's still all a bit blah. You are definitely short on instructions.

      I don't want my money back - yet - but you're losing my trust. I'll be interested to see your videos because for the time being I can't see how it all ties together - but I'm dead keen to make mega moola, so I'll trust for a little while longer. but hurry up won't you!
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Hi Kieran

    looking at giving this a go, but have the bugs been fixed yet

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author wolf29
      I'm thinking about getting a refund but will hold out to see if things get sorted. Last night even the keyword tool that was working was just running and running and never produced results for me. I'm hoping this will all be worth it so we can all have a nice relationship in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author ethan97
    "Monster Training", forum, and other links still broken this morning. Like others, I'm amazed at the seemingly unprofessional rollout of this product. I too will wait a day or so before requesting a refund, but I'm definitely not impressed at this point.

    Why, oh why, was all this not in place for the launch?
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    • Profile picture of the author KevinBarham
      Originally Posted by ethan97 View Post

      Why, oh why, was all this not in place for the launch?
      That's a very good question. I'm shocked but will wait a couple of days before requesting a refund.

      I just hope that the content is well worth the wait. It's gonna have to be the very best!
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinBarham
    The forum is now available! They're getting there. Good to see ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    so whats not working now,and what is working dos it look any good,can you see this doing what they say you can

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinBarham
    The main PDF is available (and always was)
    5 of the 7 tools are linked in
    Forum (obviously) working and Kieran is in there welcoming everyone

    He has posted over there that the rest will all be live in a matter of hours. I'm very happy to wait based on what I have already seen.

    Originally Posted by kevintg1 View Post

    can you see this doing what they say you can
    Yes!

    From my own experience, the reason that most 'systems' or 'processes' do not work is not due to any great flaw in the product - It is usually entirely down to the fact that the purchaser doesn't take action or doesn't stick at it long enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolf29
      Ok, things are looking up now. They have some tools working and the forum is up. The KW annihilation tool is nice. Gives you green for go when it finds good keyword phrases based on certain criteria. So it saves you a ton of time than doing it manually.

      Their quick backlink spider tool is working and it's good as well. It's literally click and go. Enter your doman, keyword phrase, hit submit and move on. Their tweet/blog link building is good and some of you may already have it as it was given out for free a few weeks ago.

      So still holding off on asking for refund as I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. The meat of what I want to get into, the "monster method" won't be available until tomorrow, so I'll report back then.

      Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
    Just to let you guys here know I can't reply to PMs in the Warrior Forum as I don't have enough posts (you need 50 to send a PM in WF). So please PM Kieran instead and he will answer your queries.

    Someone did send me a message so I have given my answer to Kieran to reply with.
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    • Profile picture of the author joel cannon
      Hi J and Gill , I must say that I seen your product a few days ago and was very skeptical of all the hype and read the sales page quick and i didnt think about it untill I came across it on the warriorforum so I went back and re-read the sales page again ,I believe in software to help in the processe to save time/money and you guys do offer alot but I am buying because you guys believe in your course and the type of results it can achieve and you are there for your members.
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      • Profile picture of the author niceweb
        I am a big fan of automated tools, so i will check this one out and report back.
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      • Profile picture of the author KevinBarham
        Originally Posted by joel cannon View Post

        Hi J and Gill , I must say that I seen your product a few days ago and was very skeptical of all the hype and read the sales page quick and i didnt think about it untill I came across it on the warriorforum so I went back and re-read the sales page again ,I believe in software to help in the processe to save time/money and you guys do offer alot but I am buying because you guys believe in your course and the type of results it can achieve and you are there for your members.
        Hi Joel
        You sent me a PM asking me about my experience with 9to5. I do not have a high enough post count to reply. Please PM me with your email address and I will gladly respond
        All the best.
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        • Profile picture of the author anaconda
          Originally Posted by KevinBarham View Post

          Hi Joel
          You sent me a PM asking me about my experience with 9to5. I do not have a high enough post count to reply. Please PM me with your email address and I will gladly respond
          All the best.
          Hi Kevin, can the rest of us know your opinion too please?
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        • Profile picture of the author danblack
          Originally Posted by KevinBarham View Post

          Hi Joel
          You sent me a PM asking me about my experience with 9to5. I do not have a high enough post count to reply. Please PM me with your email address and I will gladly respond
          All the best.
          I didn't know you had signed up? Please let me know as well, what your thoughts are on the product.

          Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jcbradley
    What exactly is this program? i read the sales letter but still not sure on the details.

    thanks,

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  • Profile picture of the author danblack
    Kieran, can you use a domain name that you currently own, and make a sub domain name on that site that uses the keyword you want?

    For example... I've owned some domains now for 5-10 years, that I haven't done anything with. They are just sitting there worthless. But, they are good domains, so I don't want to sell them. The 2 best domains I own are: TravelHalfPrice.com and DiscountEverything.com

    I would like to know if it would work the same for getting traffic if I would create a subdomain for each keyword I want to focus on? Like say I wanted to promote the new iPhone from Apple. I could create a subdomain (blog... I'm assuming?) as follows... iphone.discounteverything.com

    I would think that the search engines would still pick it up, but I'm not sure... that's why I'm asking? I could do hundreds of subdomains for the primary domain name, and turn each one into a seperate blog/website (whatever you are doing?) What's your thoughts on this idea?

    Thanks,

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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    I'm still very disappointed with the set up - the major training section is the reason I joined still isn't up and running apart from a teaser pdf. When they make a time promise they never deliver on time. The bonuses are still not available - whatever they are. The promised videos are late.

    It's not a good look.

    Oh and J for a mere $37 you can become a War Room member and you can use the PM function immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author anaconda
      That's superb that at least 10 member sites are turning a profit in the 4 days since the method went online - especially considering there are at least 2 days of recommended research involved. I can't say my 2 sites are turning a profit yet in fact they haven't been indexed by google. Must go read the method again, I must be doing something wrong.

      Oh yes - I'm still waiting for these (copied from your sales page)

      Thats why ever 9 - 5 Annihilation member will have access to this 100% automated software that instantly creates a basic "Harvester" site for you... but also sets it up with over FIFTY backlinks from the word go...

      **** I admit you do have something in place for this but you keep saying it's not the updated version. I'm also a bit wary of putting in username and passwords on an unsecured site. Call me fussy *****

      That's why we're giving away two of our most profitable Wordpress themes to every 9 - 5 Annihilation member.

      Free Special Report: "Cash-Sucking Harvester Site Case Studies"!


      J's Six-Figure Blogging Checklist!


      I don't remember anything in the promo material saying that it was coming in dribs and drabs as you built it - although it does say 'looking over your shoulder' - it just wasn't clear it would be in real time.

      I gotta say you don't take criticism well.
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      • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
        Originally Posted by anaconda View Post

        I don't remember anything in the promo material saying that it was coming in dribs and drabs as you built it - although it does say 'looking over your shoulder' - it just wasn't clear it would be in real time.

        I gotta say you don't take criticism well.
        We appreciate your feedback and criticism, without it we could not improve. I make a list of all the criticism and weight it all up to decide the best way to improve things that will help more people.

        Just to be clear it does say: "you'll be able to look over my shoulder and watch live as I build one of my super-profitable websites right before your very eyes."

        So for complete clarification the case studies are delivered live. We do this on purpose because we strongly believe that is how you will get the most value from it. Seeing something become a success in real time and seeing every step and being able to ask questions on it.

        If this is not up to your expectation then please request a refund. While we try to please everyone as much as possible we understand our business models and way of teaching will not help everyone 100%.

        Compare this to a real university course which will likely put you in a 9to5 job after - you'll pay thousands in tuition fees, and good luck getting a refund on those if you don't like the course after doing it for 2 months. I think if you look at the entire package we are delivering with a real world perspective, the value is immense.

        My blogging checklist is also already up, it is a to-do list, and a to do list is again live. You see what I am working on as I do it. I hope the insight into how a 6 figure blogger works will be helpful and inspirational for our subscribers.

        As for the step-by-step structure of the course being released...

        Firstly we have given you a solid blueprint to make money with the harvester method. It might take you and hour or two to read and digest the Harvester Method for example, but that little simple blue-print gives you days, weeks and months of real action to be carrying out as you build more and more harvesters to make more and more money! We're not going to flood you with things to read - we are giving you an action plan - an action plan requires action!

        We are not flooding you with information ON PURPOSE, and we do it to HELP YOU FOCUS.

        The Monster method is PURPOSELY being delivered to you one step at a time - a monster site is an endurance exercise and not a race - it takes a long time to build an authority site - this is why we have the Harvester method so you can make money quickly BEFORE you invest your time heavily in the monster method.

        You may want to ask yourself if you have tried and mastered the Harvester Method. We warn people here not to keep looking around for the next best thing and to make sure you see things through. That equally applies within this course - reading the harvester method, messing around with it for a day or two and then wanting to jump straight on to what looks like the next best thing is NOT the way to approach making money online. You WILL FAIL if you do this.

        Those of you keen to get your hands on the entire monster method need to be patient - I have over a 100 lessons sat on my hard drive right now - this was originally written by me 2 years ago and has never been publicly released until now! It has of course been updated and added too as we learn more and strategies naturally evolve and improve. It has also been improved by Kieran with his natural gift for making money online.

        I will never, under no circumstance, dump all these lessons on you at once. I passionately believe that this step by step strategy needs to be taught in real time and lessons should be given to you one step at a time. There's a LOT of people teaching their strategies step-by-step because it is a proven system that works for people. We've taken it a step further and are showing you a site being produced live! This is RARE - most courses will NEVER do this because it is so much more work, and literally uncovers every nuck and cranny of their tactics.

        Please be rest assured you are onto an amazing thing here and we look forward to taking you on a step by step journey to success.

        Please do your true potential justice and TAKE ACTION!

        If you haven't already start implementing the harvester method now!
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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    Hi Keiran, thanks for that. I guess I'm just impatient and a bit gun shy having been recently scammed out of $1,500 by someone who didn't deliver.

    I wish you the best of luck and every success but I've started the refund process because I believe that you should have been ready to go and your system thoroughly tested before you took anyones money. I didn't pay you on an instalment basis and I expected to get the full product when I paid full price.

    Good luck all the same. No hard feeling and hey - maybe I'll come back in 6 months when it's all up and running and completely tested by others.
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  • Profile picture of the author heavyjay
    Originally Posted by Kieran Gill

    Hey guys,

    Just popping in here to make it aware I'm a Warrior and am available via PM if anyone needs personal support with this.

    We had a (very annoying) bug pop up literally 15 minutes before launch which resulted in us being unable to "switch on" any of the tools.

    All but one of the tools are now online.

    The forums will be going live tomorrow, about 2PM UK time, which is very early EST, I think it's like 6AM.

    Also I can assure you I've not been chilling at the pub or anything, lol, I wish! I've been working flat out for the past week and am running on two hours of sleep...

    Anyway hope to see you guys in the forums, I'm sure you'll love what we have planned!

    Also the 250,000 visits is 100% legit... Generated through a "Viral Magnet" and certainly not a one off. We'll be covering it in the Monster Method.

    Cheers,

    Kieran
    Reading your sales page was a chore, especially after getting to the end of it and still not knowing what your product is supposed to do.

    All this cloak and dagger with the DaVin.. I mean, Google Code and your friend "J" there who thinks he's in Her Majesty's Secret Service.

    I haven't seen a sales pages take up so much space to say so little since I told Shawn Casey to take me off his mailing list in the 1980's

    Why don't you just cut the BS and give us the facts about what your stuff does, so we can decide if we want to buy it or not.


    ETA: I'm not usually such a d**k, really. It's just that from your sales page, I couldn't make an informed decision about your product. My guess is that it's probably a good one. Show us what it can do.
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    • Profile picture of the author anaconda
      Thanks for your reply and clarification. Yes I've read the harvester method and there are some great ideas in there although it's not substantially different to other things I've read but there is value there. You're probably right I may well fail but it's one hell of a ride. :-)

      I disagree about the watching 'live' - you've phrased it wrongly - it's not live if I watch it 10 minutes after it was made, or 3 days or 3 months. You will not make a new video for every person who joins so they can watch it live. Just change the wording of your ad to make it clear. No reason not to hype it up and say these are being created 'now' and put a date on it, change the sales page every few days to say 'part 3 of 10 parts now complete - don't miss out on seeing this being created ..... " . I'd have bought on that basis and been happy and excited and expectant of the next part, at the momentI just feel let down. Just make it clear what you are doing. People just need to know what's happening - BEFORE they buy not after.

      HeavyJay - I agree with you but I find this with most sales pages and it really annoys me that there are never any links to ask a question or 2 before buying. You have to buy the product to find out it does or doesn't suit your requirements and I'm not just referring to 9-5 it's 95% of them. I've found some keepers and I found some that don't suit - I kept the first dud but now I've had 2 products that didn't suit me and I'm asking for refunds . If you can't provide somewhere I can ask a question before buying then you can give me my money back. I'm getting much tougher!! LOL I wouldn't buy a fridge without asking some questions why are these products any different? Am I wrong? do I expect too much by wanting to ask before buying?
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Fiske
        Originally Posted by anaconda View Post

        HeavyJay - I agree with you but I find this with most sales pages and it really annoys me that there are never any links to ask a question or 2 before buying. You have to buy the product to find out it does or doesn't suit your requirements and I'm not just referring to 9-5 it's 95% of them. I've found some keepers and I found some that don't suit - I kept the first dud but now I've had 2 products that didn't suit me and I'm asking for refunds . If you can't provide somewhere I can ask a question before buying then you can give me my money back. I'm getting much tougher!! LOL I wouldn't buy a fridge without asking some questions why are these products any different? Am I wrong? do I expect too much by wanting to ask before buying?
        This is such a great point and one that ALL marketers should listen to, ESPECIALLY in IM, where EVERY product is cloaked in deepest secrecy and oaths of silence, like joining a secret brotherhood.

        OK, the marketer's "secret" must be protected to some degree, otherwise they have nothing to sell, I grant that.

        But if you are going to shroud the whole thing in dense impenetrable layers of hype, then it is an EXCELLENT idea to have comments with answers on the sales page so that people can get a better idea of what the hell it is that you're selling.

        In IM the copywriting fashion is to hype, hype hype -- use NLP, hypnotize the reader, distort his thinking, warp his mind, weaken him so that he finally succumbs and clicks "Add to Cart."

        Is this a great business model?

        Would you buy a used car from this man?

        How about talking to the reader with conviction and persuasion -- but also respect, honesty, and clarity?

        Isn't that ultimately more convincing?

        I'll step off my soap box now. I'm not sure how much Kiernan and J are guilty of these "sins" -- but I do know that I share the concerns above (for almost ALL IM) -- make the sales page clearer, and answer questions on the page so that we don't have to start a thread on the WF to find out what exactly it is and if it's really any good.

        I'm STILL trying to find out what exactly this product is and if it's really any good.
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        • Profile picture of the author heavyjay
          Originally Posted by anaconda View Post

          HeavyJay - I agree with you but I find this with most sales pages and it really annoys me that there are never any links to ask a question or 2 before buying. You have to buy the product to find out it does or doesn't suit your requirements and I'm not just referring to 9-5 it's 95% of them. I've found some keepers and I found some that don't suit - I kept the first dud but now I've had 2 products that didn't suit me and I'm asking for refunds . If you can't provide somewhere I can ask a question before buying then you can give me my money back. I'm getting much tougher!! LOL I wouldn't buy a fridge without asking some questions why are these products any different? Am I wrong? do I expect too much by wanting to ask before buying?
          Originally Posted by jcbradley View Post

          Glad it wasnt just me, i thought the same thing, i came away confused after reading the sales letter, i didnt understand what this was supposed to do. i think we get the benefits of the program but what are the features that produces the benefits.
          Originally Posted by Michael Fiske View Post

          This is such a great point and one that ALL marketers should listen to, ESPECIALLY in IM, where EVERY product is cloaked in deepest secrecy and oaths of silence, like joining a secret brotherhood.

          OK, the marketer's "secret" must be protected to some degree, otherwise they have nothing to sell, I grant that.

          I'm STILL trying to find out what exactly this product is and if it's really any good.
          Maybe our little rants will get the point across. We were four people who were interested in the product, read the sales letter, but came away knowing very little about what the product was supposed to do for us. If it's as good as they say it is, they're leaving money on the table. A product demo would have gone a long way in convincing me one way or the other.
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          • Profile picture of the author djbory
            Originally Posted by heavyjay View Post

            Maybe our little rants will get the point across. We were four people who were interested in the product, read the sales letter, but came away knowing very little about what the product was supposed to do for us. If it's as good as they say it is, they're leaving money on the table. A product demo would have gone a long way in convincing me one way or the other.
            Well, add me to the herb! They're not saying what their products will really do or how:confused:

            Maybe is a little early for success stories, but they say in the sales page "Create a website with the touch of a button" and "24 hours to top rankings on Google", so it is not really early...

            ...and they just said they've seen about 10 success stories in their forum... Send those guys over here to explain what is that they're doing and how good it has been... Sure it would help!

            If what your software does is to create backlinks fast or some sort of, just say it like that! I'm getting a little tired of those: 'Google Secret Backdoor" "Google Secret Loophole" "24 Hours to Google #1 Ranking" crap....

            I have not yet found no one who has delivered on any of those promises; If you think you can, I want to hear some real warriors saying their doing it... So far all I have heard was somebody saying that his sites have not even been indexed after 2 days... yak! I can do better than that...

            I want to make clear that I'm not badmouthing your product (for all I know it can be a real winner); if you can really deliver on all those secret promises, I'll too jump in...So success stories please!

            DJ
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            • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
              Thanks for all the feedback on the Sales Page guys, we're taking it all on board and will make adjustments in future. Right now our priority is working with our members, doing more tutorials, case studies, etc.

              Also we explained a lot of the product during the pre-launch phase for people who got on our behind the scenes launch list, to make sure everything was much clearer for those signing up. We did this over a few days and we never intended people just to see the sales page on its own, that came after they saw everything else - we had videos, simple bullet point list of features etc. that made it all clear which we sent to our subscriber list before the launch.

              Now we've got everything up we're pretty busy making more improvements, case studies and tutorials based on feedback we've been getting, so right now making sales and improving the sales page is low down our priority list - we are focusing on our existing customers first.

              Most of the feedback here has been related to how we launched the product, and we admit mistakes were made there, and after a lot of knuckle grinding we're up to speed now. We're sorry about any inconvenience and confusion we caused.

              When it comes to the actual tools and strategies we are offering feedback has been great so far from our members, and giving people a way to make cash online is our priority so it's very heartwarming to see people are getting results with this already.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ryce
                Originally Posted by "J" View Post


                Also we explained a lot of the product during the pre-launch phase for people who got on our behind the scenes launch list, to make sure everything was much clearer for those signing up. We did this over a few days and we never intended people just to see the sales page on its own, that came after they saw everything else - we had videos, simple bullet point list of features etc. that made it all clear which we sent to our subscriber list before the launch.


                So I guess the pre-launch videos are still available somewhere?

                :confused:
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                • Profile picture of the author corbinproverb
                  Hello

                  How suited is 9-5Annihilation for a compete newbie to IM, having no idea how to set up a web page, blog, use automated tools like SENuke etc.

                  I have purchased several programs (Niche Blueprint 2, Auto Blog Blueprint, 0 to Profits etc), but have stalled in my progress with these methods because I don't have the basic knowledge/skills that are a pre-requisite for these methods but are not covered in the methods themselves (like how to do PPC, adsense, use SENuke etc).

                  Basically I am after ONE plan, that is simple enough and has all the basic info supplied for a newbie to follow, without getting distracted by having to go outside the course material to fill in all the gaps (I too easily get lost doing this).

                  I don't expect this to replace my full time job, but just something so that I can see IM is real for me (actually having a web page up that generates some income). I believe that will give me the confidence to continue on with NBP2, ABB, 0toP at a later stage when I have the confidence and skills needed.

                  If 9-5A is not such a program, can anyone here suggest one that is?

                  Thanks

                  CP
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                  • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
                    Originally Posted by corbinproverb View Post

                    Hello

                    How suited is 9-5Annihilation for a compete newbie to IM, having no idea how to set up a web page, blog, use automated tools like SENuke etc.

                    I have purchased several programs (Niche Blueprint 2, Auto Blog Blueprint, 0 to Profits etc), but have stalled in my progress with these methods because I don't have the basic knowledge/skills that are a pre-requisite for these methods but are not covered in the methods themselves (like how to do PPC, adsense, use SENuke etc).

                    Basically I am after ONE plan, that is simple enough and has all the basic info supplied for a newbie to follow, without getting distracted by having to go outside the course material to fill in all the gaps (I too easily get lost doing this).

                    I don't expect this to replace my full time job, but just something so that I can see IM is real for me (actually having a web page up that generates some income). I believe that will give me the confidence to continue on with NBP2, ABB, 0toP at a later stage when I have the confidence and skills needed.

                    If 9-5A is not such a program, can anyone here suggest one that is?

                    Thanks

                    CP
                    Hi CP,

                    We have complete newbies in the course, some who share a story similar to yours who are really liking the course so far. Here's what a newbies on our course just posted today:

                    "Thanks J. I have to say over the last few days since I have only been focusing on the Harvester Method, I am less stressed. I have also unsubscribed from a ton of other gurus I've been getting email from so I can stay focused and not get distracted. I've seen some mild success with the Harvester Method with getting some hubs ranked and creating my first WP site. I will take your advice since I've been flopping around for two years like a fish out of water. Always jumping to the next best thing. Whether you like it or now, you and Kieran have me for the long haul. Now let's make some money.

                    You guys are great and I read in another thread that your method works like you said it would and it's one of the few products out there that does. I agree 100%."

                    If you are looking for some magic bullet then 9to5Annihilation is not for you and to be honest you will probably keep going from course to course, idea to idea, get rich scheme to get rich scheme and be disappointed indefinitely.

                    I've been a newbie, I wasn't born with the knowledge of building a website or marketing, and I made a lot of mistakes early on. I made a success because I worked hard, but more importantly I changed my frame of mind after listening to what successful people had to say.

                    I'm trying very hard to encourage the right frame of mind in our community, and I'm loving the results I am seeing so far. Some people arrived very depressed and disgruntled from past experiences, but they've put that behind them and vowed to focus on seeing this through.

                    This will be harder for a newbie, just like anything you try new you won't be good at it the first time. Any new job, new sport, new venture, or new business model you try there will be a learning curve, and if you are unable to get past that initial learning curve, learning the lingo, and put in some work, then this won't work for you, just like anything else would not come together if you don't put the time in.

                    I think the best way to describe this is with the following analogy.

                    Imagine building an online business is like learning to play guitar. Some people pick it up quickly and practice daily, some people don't ever get it because they don't practice and never get anywhere. Learning guitar is very hard to begin with, it feels awkward and you may wonder how you could ever do that - it puts a lot of people off.

                    Now 9to5 Annihilation is like Guitar Hero, you get the same effect as playing a guitar, you rock out playing your favorite tunes, but its a lot easier than playing guitar and a lot easier to learn. Still the first time you try you'll miss a lot of the notes, but stick at it and you'll be playing rock anthems in no time.

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                    I would say if you are unable to put up a website yet then you may want to Google a GoDaddy wordpress installation tutorial video, and sign up with a GoDaddy account and get a new domain name, and just for fun try putting up a website. If you can get past that stage then you should have no trouble implementing the 9to5Annihilation strategy if you focus and put regular work in.
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                • Profile picture of the author novac
                  Originally Posted by Ryce View Post

                  So I guess the pre-launch videos are still available somewhere?

                  :confused:
                  All active right this minute, but you never know.
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                  I'd love to know how the $57 /mo tool stacks up to Steve & Tim's IMeye, anyone? Thanks.
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                  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
                    Other than domains and hosting, is there anything else I need to buy to make 9-5 Annihilation work?

                    Do I need money for PPC? Link building services?

                    Other tools?
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                    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
                      Originally Posted by malcasid View Post

                      Other than domains and hosting, is there anything else I need to buy to make 9-5 Annihilation work?

                      Do I need money for PPC? Link building services?

                      Other tools?
                      No hosting and domain costs is all you need to spend, but we do recommend a PPC loophole as a quicker shortcut, but that is pretty cheap and you'd only use it on a profitable site (its completely optional and you don't need to do it). Kieran uses the PPC Loophole on his sites but I do not.
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    • Profile picture of the author jcbradley
      Glad it wasnt just me, i thought the same thing, i came away confused after reading the sales letter, i didnt understand what this was supposed to do. i think we get the benefits of the program but what are the features that produces the benefits.


      Originally Posted by heavyjay View Post

      Reading your sales page was a chore, especially after getting to the end of it and still not knowing what your product is supposed to do.

      All this cloak and dagger with the DaVin.. I mean, Google Code and your friend "J" there who thinks he's in Her Majesty's Secret Service.

      I haven't seen a sales pages take up so much space to say so little since I told Shawn Casey to take me off his mailing list in the 1980's

      Why don't you just cut the BS and give us the facts about what your stuff does, so we can decide if we want to buy it or not.


      ETA: I'm not usually such a d**k, really. It's just that from your sales page, I couldn't make an informed decision about your product. My guess is that it's probably a good one. Show us what it can do.
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    • Originally Posted by heavyjay View Post


      All this cloak and dagger with the DaVin.. I mean, Google Code and your friend "J" there who thinks he's in Her Majesty's Secret Service.

      I haven't seen a sales pages take up so much space to say so little since I told Shawn Casey to take me off his mailing list in the 1980's

      .
      That sir is comedy gold ( but I bet J gets all the fine ladies)

      I too am sick of these monthly services and will not be a part of them.
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      • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
        Originally Posted by Orlando Web Design View Post

        I too am sick of these monthly services and will not be a part of them.
        We have a one-off payment option to access all the tools and course material for life.

        Monthly payment is for Elite membership which gives more perks inc. a hot keyword tool (similar one from a competitor sells at $150ish per month), but namely one-on-one help, which is the crux of the monthly cost.

        When an ongoing service is provided, be it a telephone service, a hosting service, or one-on-one tuition a monthly fee is pretty much the standard.

        Even universities charge ongoing fees for their tuition and its hugely expensive.
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      • Profile picture of the author anaconda
        Originally Posted by Orlando Web Design View Post

        I too am sick of these monthly services and will not be a part of them.
        count me in on the monthly memberships - or rather count me out of the monthly memberships - I have 2 and I'm cancelling 1. I have a subscription to an article network which I'm keeping for another 3 months to see if I get value because I believe it will take that long to see results but if, after 4 months membership, I'm not getting a return, out it goes. I'm working for a living so every $ counts at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author danblack
    Well gang... has Kieran got it all up and running yet? Anyone a member? I know it's tough launching something like this, as I've been busy with my own blog, and other one I'm working on for a friend.

    So, I can imagine the work that goes into what they are setting up. I'm still interested, but I'd like to see a few people come in here and post their success story. Most people won't follow through and actually take the time to "do" whatever product they buy, but I'm sure someone has jumped on board Kieran's product and made it work.

    I'm just interested to see what kind of results they get. Even as little as $5.00 per day is good, as you can simply multiple you sites to make more. So, please post if you have gotten started with their product.

    Thanks for the feed back guys...
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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    Hiya Dan
    the stuff was starting to come through when I left them yesterday. I'm not sure how long it's going to take to deliver the full series of lessons. It's very early days so I'd be surprised if you hear from people who are pulling in some $$ just yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    Originally Posted by Kieran Gill View Post

    Also I'd like to point out that Elite membership is 100% optional.

    Elite membership also features the elite keyword finder tool, which lets you browse our growing database of keywords and filter them by things like search volume, competition, etc. Another product IMEye is coming out which is essentially the same thing, except ours is much more affordable and may even have better keywords as they're generated via user queries and not from a keyword list, but obviously I can't comment as IMEye is not live yet.
    I look forward to hearing your comments when it does go live.

    I think IMeye will cost $197/month. If your tool is somewhat comparable then I will be saving a lot of cheddar.
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  • Profile picture of the author type-m
    Hi guys.

    I am one of Vita Vee's students. I was going to buy 9 to 5 Annihilation and Vita has provided a special support for those who do so through his link, but as other members of Vita's forum complained about the empty back office I decided to wait.

    So as I understand you guys are live now. I would also like to know when does the monster method lessons begin? The 2 wordpress themes, is one of them the one Kieran is selling here on Warriorforum? I would really like to test your keyword tool and see how it measures with IMeye. I already have an early access to Imeye and it's very powerful.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author deu12000
    I was thinking about buying this and I clicked off the page and saw that the one time offer was the membership. Can I skip the $67 ebook and go straight to the membership? What advantages does the $67 offer have over going straight to the membership?
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Originally Posted by deu12000 View Post

      I was thinking about buying this and I clicked off the page and saw that the one time offer was the membership. Can I skip the $67 ebook and go straight to the membership? What advantages does the $67 offer have over going straight to the membership?
      $67 for the course material itself (its not one eBook but lifetime access to tools, ongoing course material) and a separate $57 per month for Elite membership (first 7 days free). Elite membership is optional but gives you access to the elite forum where we will help you closely and give you feedback on what you do.

      Elite membership also features the elite keyword finder tool, which lets you browse our growing database of HOT keywords and filter them by things like search volume, competition.

      We will also only share some of the advanced tactics and new tactics we learn in the Elite forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author deu12000
    Hype or not, it sounds interesting more than anything for the tools. Worse case scenario I cancel after the first month or even worse case scenario if it's complete garbage it's through ClickBank so if they don't give a refund I can get one straight from ClickBank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amanda Craven
      I bought the Elite membership and while it's true the launch was a disaster and problems continued for days afterwards what I do respect, and what has kept me there, is the response from Kieran and J.

      They were upfront in admitting they'd screwed up and there has not been a whiff of BS I can detect from either of them. Sure there was a lot of hype in the sales letter - when isn't there? But I'm testing their methods right now to see if the hype was justified.

      Of course there is always the refund route but I'm not intending to go that way yet and, I hope, not ever. There is a lot to be said for sticking with a method and seeing it through to fruition. And if there is no fruit after a reasonable time then I won't be sucking lemons - I'll move on and prosper elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Hi just checking
    if we take the 7 day trial for the Elite Members we get it for $57.00 then if we dont want to stay a member do we still keep all we would have got from the $67.00 option,
    so basically we are getting a $10.00 discount
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Originally Posted by kevintg1 View Post

      Hi just checking
      if we take the 7 day trial for the Elite Members we get it for $57.00 then if we dont want to stay a member do we still keep all we would have got from the $67.00 option,
      so basically we are getting a $10.00 discount
      $67 is for the course material and access to most of the tools. You pay this whether you become Elite or not and you can continue to use the tools and read the lessons for life.

      The optional $57 a month (with a 7 day free trial) gives you access to the Elite extras including the Elite Keyword Annihilation tool, one-on-one coaching in the forum on the strategies we teach, access to the Elite forum where we will post more secret and advanced tactics, my ongoing To-Do list to get myself from 6 figures to 7 figures, and we'll showcase extra case studies too.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Hi J

    its just when you click on the pay button,it takes you to so if i take the 7 day acces for $57.00 that it,so i am saving $10 thanks kev
    Okay Kieran... I Want 7 Days of Access
    to the 9 - 5 Annihilation Elite Members
    Area Completely Free of Charge.
    Please Let Me In Right Now!

    No thanks Kieran. I'm happy with the standard membership, and would
    rather not have a free week of access to these profit-boosting secret weapons
    9-5 Annihilation: ELITE UPGRADE ELITE UPGRADE: 9-5 Annihilation ELITE including the $900/day Harvester Method, the $1100/day Monster Site Method and ALL the ELITE software tools and 1-on-1 COACHING you need, PLUS access to the "FAST-MOVER" bonuses.$57.00
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Originally Posted by kevintg1 View Post

      Hi J

      its just when you click on the pay button,it takes you to so if i take the 7 day acces for $57.00 that it,so i am saving $10 thanks kev
      You do not save $10 as you pay the $57 for Elite membership, on top of what you pay to get access to the basic stuff.

      $67 is for the course material and access to most of the tools. You pay this whether you become Elite or not and you can continue to use the tools and read the lessons for life.

      The optional $57 a month gives you access to the Elite extras including the Elite Keyword Annihilation tool, one-on-one coaching in the forum on the strategies we teach, access to the Elite forum where we will post more secret and advanced tactics, my ongoing To-Do list to get myself from 6 figures to 7 figures, and we'll showcase extra case studies too.

      Note: The free 7 day trial offer has now expired for the time being.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    J,

    I think it would be helpful if we could see your tool in action....

    Gee
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    J are you seeing what your potential customers are asking: screen shots of the action, or maybe a video...I think a trial period is an excellent idea and one you may want to re-open. I know FOR ME that if I was going to drop the cash on the course as well as pony up for continuation, I wouldn't mind a trial period for free as it would save the hassle of a refund. Just the same, looks like you've got something here.
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      J are you seeing what your potential customers are asking: screen shots of the action, or maybe a video...I think a trial period is an excellent idea and one you may want to re-open. I know FOR ME that if I was going to drop the cash on the course as well as pony up for continuation, I wouldn't mind a trial period for free as it would save the hassle of a refund. Just the same, looks like you've got something here.
      Like I said a few times we're focusing on our existing customers and getting them everything they need. When we've done that we'll look at sales pages, demos, screenshots etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author remodeler
        Originally Posted by "J" View Post

        Like I said a few times we're focusing on our existing customers and getting them everything they need. When we've done that we'll look at sales pages, demos, screenshots etc.
        So you're saying to all of us potential customers that would like to get a little more information (especially due to the way the sales letter is written that many others have already commented on in this thread) that you are just SO overwhelmed that you can't simply post up a couple of screen shots that would take all of 10 minutes? I was on the fence...but no longer. Best of luck on your business.
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        • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
          Originally Posted by remodeler View Post

          So you're saying to all of us potential customers that would like to get a little more information (especially due to the way the sales letter is written that many others have already commented on in this thread) that you are just SO overwhelmed that you can't simply post up a couple of screen shots that would take all of 10 minutes? I was on the fence...but no longer. Best of luck on your business.
          We just want to focus on our existing customers and then work on all the up-front info and myself and Kieran need to discuss how we want to present that information. We'd also likely have to block out the hot keywords that the keyword tool provides in the screenshot, and therefore the best way to present how the tool works is using a video - that's how IM Eye did it.

          Kieran has final say on releasing screenshots here for that software, but he's got a huge list of things he wants to roll out to our existing customers. More tutorials, improvements to the tools, more videos, more case studies, one-on-one support etc. We've jam packed a huge amount into the 9to5Annihilation.com package, and we're setting high standards to get people on the right path so we're both working very hard to ensure we can make as many people as successful as possible.

          Please bear in mind we're not just selling that software, its part of a huge package.

          Our launch has been and gone, and we got a lot of people that signed up that we are striving to put them onto the road to success. We have to prioritize, and our existing customers is our priority, hopefully you can empathize that we have to focus on our customers first. We just can't justify making a sales video, when we know ourselves that getting video case studies etc. to our existing subscribers is very important.

          The doors are open to the stragglers who want to join us, but if any of you are not sure then we'll be back with more information, videos & screenshots in the near future when the dust has settled and we've got our first big influx of members on the right track. We hope you can be patient until then.

          We've considered closing the doors, but didn't think that would look right given that we'll be able to handle a new influx of members in the near future, and right now we can handle the trickle of new users signing up We're at about 60% capacity and its gradually rising, but having that remaining 40% all at once at this point in time is something we want to avoid. Plus most of the questions come early as people learn the ropes, so our time will gradually free up as our members become more proficient at making money online.

          Anyway, I am sure you are busy and we've got a lot of work to do to meet our obligations to our members, so best of luck in whatever route you take.
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          • Profile picture of the author afxx
            "J" wake-up buddy! This is not the way to launch a product & respond to your potential customers. You should close it down immediately! Give every user you are sucking the life out of, a full refund.....and, NOT relaunch the product until it is finished!

            Right now it all sounds very half @ss!
            So Do it!

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            • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
              Originally Posted by afxx View Post

              "J" wake-up buddy! This is not the way to launch a product & respond to your potential customers. You should close it down immediately! Give every user you are sucking the life out of, a full refund.....and, NOT relaunch the product until it is finished!
              Any user can request a refund. Indeed some did since we screwed up the launch and were slow getting some of the content up, can't blame them we messed up. But most are choosing to stay, and they still have about 45 days to make up their mind before the refund guarantee expires.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ryce
                IMHO "J" is been transparent about his stuff, sure, they could have delayed a little bit to fine tune some stuff but, from Apple to Toyota , from Sony to Ford Motors we've seen all the Big Fortune 500 messing up all the time so why be so hard on a fellow IM marketer?

                just my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    I bought it, I tried it, I asked for a refund and received it. No drama no stress. I don't have anything against the program - except it was actually there haha. From the little that was available in the first 10 days before I quit - it looks interesting. My only reason for leaving was that I had expectations of what I was going to receive and I wanted it 'now' not on a drip feed program. I wish them good luck. Yeah J don't bother telling me I won't succeed with my attitude - you already did that.

    As for being suitable for newbies - anything is hard when you get started - people use jargon you don't understand and you feel like a spinning top sometimes. The forum is active and there is a lot of help there so if you buy in - just ask. There are plenty of newbies there.
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Originally Posted by anaconda View Post

      I bought it, I tried it, I asked for a refund and received it. No drama no stress. I don't have anything against the program - except it was actually there haha. From the little that was available in the first 10 days before I quit - it looks interesting. My only reason for leaving was that I had expectations of what I was going to receive and I wanted it 'now' not on a drip feed program. I wish them good luck. Yeah J don't bother telling me I won't succeed with my attitude - you already did that.
      If its not for you that's perfectly fine. The main thing I try to put across about attitude is to focus on one thing and see it through. Your sig says as much - wise words

      Obviously if it doesn't meet what you are after then you'd be making the right decision to move on. We don't expect it would resonate with everyone, no course can. Thanks for the honest feedback and best of luck with your ventures
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Hi J,

    I'm not sure about others but I appreciate your honesty throughout the thread. Is there any other way I can contact you apart from the WF?

    Gee
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  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    I keep getting this error when trying to purchase the elite membership.

    At this time, we are unable to process your request. Please return to ClickBank and try another option.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Hey "J",

    I'm a little confused with the sales process. On the main sales page if we buy the product we get charged $67 which is fine.

    But when we try to leave the site we get hit with an OTO which looks like the same sales page. Clicking on the pay button then diverts me to the chance to join the membership program. But Clickbank is charging $57 upfront then $57 future payments. Is this including the main course with the OTO? Also the sales page still says it 7 day free trial but I take it this isn't the case anymore.

    Is this for the membership only? And in order to get the main course we would need to go back to the sales page and purchase it that way?

    Gee
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by Gee Sanghera View Post

      Hey "J",

      I'm a little confused with the sales process. On the main sales page if we buy the product we get charged $67 which is fine.

      But when we try to leave the site we get hit with an OTO which looks like the same sales page. Clicking on the pay button then diverts me to the chance to join the membership program. But Clickbank is charging $57 upfront then $57 future payments. Is this including the main course with the OTO? Also the sales page still says it 7 day free trial but I take it this isn't the case anymore.

      Is this for the membership only? And in order to get the main course we would need to go back to the sales page and purchase it that way?

      Gee
      Yes, it's confusing. The OTO is actually for the membership, but you still need to purchase 9-5 Annihilation separately.

      I have no idea why it's offered as an exit offer.

      Now, if I could only order the Elite Membership!
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    hey that's what i have been trying to say all the the time,
    dos not make sense
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    • Profile picture of the author &quot;J&quot;
      Sorry we did have an error in the payment set-up on one split tested version of the sales page that was triggered when you leave. Kieran has fixed this. It wouldn't have caused any over payment, only an under-payment but sorry for the confusion.

      To re-clarify:

      $67 is for the 9to5Annihilation.com course material and access to most of the tools. You pay this whether you become Elite or not and you can continue to use the tools and read the lessons for life.

      The optional $57 a month upgrade (offered after you pay the first $67) gives you access to the Elite extras including the Elite Keyword Annihilation tool, one-on-one coaching in the forum on the strategies we teach, access to the Elite forum where we will post more secret and advanced tactics, my ongoing To-Do list to get myself from 6 figures to 7 figures, and we'll showcase extra case studies too.

      Note: The free 7 day trial offer has now expired for the time being.
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  • Profile picture of the author badcow
    Well... I'd like to hear from those who purchased... does this product truly deliver the goods? I am not expecting to "do no work and make millions"... but does this course/product help someone to get the coveted #1 SERP rankings quickly as promised? Also... is the course focused on using ClickBank affiliate marketing or can it work with other affiliate products (such as Amazon or Commission Junction or even Google's affiliate network)? I'm not too keen on being stuck with ClickBank products only... but if the course/product delivers like it promises, then I could learn to live with ClickBank affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author careybaird
    I am really interested in this one but there doesn't seem to be any solid testimonials - can anyone who has used it give a good breakdown of their experience?
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  • Profile picture of the author profitzone
    I purchased it and quickly requested a full refund. The launch was an ABLOLUTE mess! Nothing absolutely nothing was ready...even after several encouraging reports that everything would be in working order soon, for me it never was. Or one thing would become available but you still had to wait for another segment of the program or a tool to be up and working...incredible!!

    I STILL can't believe how anyone can launch a product and be so unprepared at the same time! It took almost a week for me to get what I SHOULD have gotten at the point of purchase. Signed up for the elite coaching program and did not get access to it until days later..did not get the bonuses until a WEEK later..the software was not working for days after purchase, and it only became available towards the end, at which point I'd already decided to get a refund for this product. Plus, they only want to drip feed the program to you...you never get the whole thing to digest at your own pace...talk about cockeyed and disjointed!

    I have purchased a LOT of online programs but I have NEVER seen the level of disorganization and lack of preparedness of this one until now!

    Purchase with EXTREME caution...oh and the hype? MONSTROUS!
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    • Profile picture of the author danblack
      Originally Posted by profitzone View Post

      I purchased it and quickly requested a full refund. The launch was an ABLOLUTE mess! Nothing absolutely nothing was ready...even after several encouraging reports that everything would be in working order soon, for me it never was. Or one thing would become available but you still had to wait for another segment of the program or a tool to be up and working...incredible!!

      I STILL can't believe how anyone can launch a product and be so unprepared at the same time! It took almost a week for me to get what I SHOULD have gotten at the point of purchase. Signed up for the elite coaching program and did not get access to it until days later..did not get the bonuses until a WEEK later..the software was not working for days after purchase, and it only became available towards the end, at which point I'd already decided to get a refund for this product. Plus, they only want to drip feed the program to you...you never get the whole thing to digest at your own pace...talk about cockeyed and disjointed!

      I have purchased a LOT of online programs but I have NEVER seen the level of disorganization and lack of preparedness of this one until now!

      Purchase with EXTREME caution...oh and the hype? MONSTROUS!
      Thanks PZ... I'm interested, but I'd like to see things up and running smoothly before joining. Certainly they are trying to fix things, as I've seen many posts about the problems they've had during the launch. I can understand a few hiccups in the beginning as everyone could have them.

      Mainly, I'd like to see that they do have the support area up and running for their current members and that some of those members are starting to see some results. No business is going to make you rich overnight, but support and the deliver-ability of the products promises is what I'm looking for.

      Dan Black
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  • Profile picture of the author rayray7
    This is a prime example of how not to launch a software.

    Very discouraging and mainly outlandish claims.

    Most WSO creators are becoming politicians, promise the moon, but deliver 1/4 sun as compensation.

    Minor glitches we can understand, but total disaster is highly unfair to the paid members.

    This is why you need to ask yourself why someone will give you a so called secret money making method.

    We humans have a basic weakness, we want success but only want little effort. I can understand tools to help you along, but claims of immediate success without work on your part is just marketing. Same thing with the so called IMEYE, much hype and all about nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author anaconda
    Hi Dan
    You're itching to try it - so why don't you and then you can report back? All you've heard so far is from a couple of people who didn't like it and got out (myself included). It should be rocking the rafters by now since it's 3 or 4 weeks in.

    There isn't any concrete evidence that they are at the stage of delivering what was promised or not delivering apart from J and Kieran and, well, they have a vested interest.

    Go give it a try - or find something else. The refund policy is there if you need to bail out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Strangler
    I just read in another forum that it two nearly two weeks to complete the release of the first module on niche selection for one of the methods. Apparently this was split into five pdfs the first two of which were described as pure fluff. That seems more like torture than drip feeding if it's true. I wanted to like this product and give it a spin as I'm always looking for better tools, but I'm seeing more negative than positive reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author ann jones
    Hi, im a newbie to the warrior forum and IM. I joined 9 to 5 2 months ago. J has just left the program (other commitments apparently) - he was suppose to be teaching us the monster method - but only 2 pdf's were released. Kearan has promised us new software - videos - link packets etc... but to be honest his - 'have things ready in a few days' and then wait several weeks is rather annoying. I have made some money from the harvester method so im not asking for my money back and will wait and see if Keiran lives up to his promises. I feel with just a little more effort from K and J they could have had a good course. If anyone knows of any better IM courses please let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author gj2802
    I see Kieran Gill is launching another program...Auto Traffic Avalanche... I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole as 9-5 died a death and he doesn't finish what he started...

    Rip-Off merchant!!

    Be wary..very wary guys..you can lose your money..
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