Fast Income Formula

14 years ago

If i just type the product name into google i'll probably get other ppl trying to sell the same thing. I guess I'd feel more secure or comfortable if the review came from somebody in the warrior forum

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jonlefave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bebryfry1

WoW!! Jeez.. at a $497.00 price point who does Melford & Concetta Bibens think we are?!?!?! I would truly love to be making what Melford & Concetta Bibens make online (what they claim to be making) or at least $3,000/month online. But really .... really almost $500?!?!
Did anyone also receive this "so called special invitation" by email.
What are your thoughts on this "fast income formula" product IF you have purchased it or read about it?
is it worth buying or would it be some same info i could probably find for a cheaper price?

Hey man,

I never remember seeing it go for $497... actually, I saw it listed for $997.

Also, I've never heard of Melford and Concetta before... and I've been hovering around the IM scene since at least 2005. However, I'm definitely not discrediting them, I'm sure they know their stuff in order to make a lucrative income online.

Now, having said that, I did some research on "Fast Income Formula", and this is what I found:

The Fast Income Formula was created on the idea that anyone out there, with enough effort and will power can create income online.
The Fast Income Formula taps into two of the most powerful elements when it comes to generating income online - without having your own product, without your own list, without any affiliates - starting pretty much from nothing.
This works by first tapping into the power of affiliate marketing and also building a list which naturally lends itself to e-mail marketing.

Overview of the Fast Income Formula
Fast Income Foundation (Finding niche)
Fast Income Words (Keyword research)
Fast Income Funnel (Setting up "shop" / marketing funnel)
Fast Income Rapid Traffic Systems (Getting traffic)

These 5 "building blocks" will be spread out over 6 training modules with a course recap and "action plan" in module 7.
Module 1: Intro Module / Fast Income Formula Revealed

FINDING FAST INCOME MONEY LOADED MARKETS
FAST INCOME WORDS RESEARCH AND TOOLS

FAST INCOME BUSINESS BASICS: LAYING DOWN YOUR FAST INCOME FOUNDATION
Module 2: Creating Your Fast Income Funnels
SETTING YOUR FAST INCOME FUNNELS (SETUP EMAIL & BLOG)
SETTING YOUR FAST INCOME FUNNELS - PT. 2 (INSTALL BLOG PLUG-INS)

SETTING YOUR FAST INCOME FUNNELS - PT. 3 (EDIT SQUEEZE TEMPLATE)

Module 3: Fast Income Action Activators
Note: email marketing tactics

FAST INCOME EMAIL MARKETING TACTIC

Module 4: Fast Income Traffic Engines
POWERING UP (ON SITE BLOG CONTENT)

POWERING UP (OFF SITE CONTENT / ARTICLES)

POWERING UP - PT. 2 (OFF SITE CONTENT DISTRIBUTION)

POWERING UP - PT. 3 (OFF SITE CONTENT w/ Web 2.0)
POWERING UP - PT. 4 (OFF SITE CONTENT w/ Web 2.0)
Module 5: Fast Social Income
POWER OF FAST INCOME SOCIAL - TWITTER (GETTING SETUP)
POWER OF FAST INCOME SOCIAL - TWITTER PT.2
POWER OF FAST INCOME SOCIAL - TWITTER PT.3

POWER OF FAST INCOME SOCIAL - FACEBOOK (GETTING SETUP)
POWER OF FAST INCOME SOCIAL - FACEBOOK PT.2

I got that from "fastincomeformulareview" from a Google search.

Judging from the title, it looks pretty straight forward, but nothing new under the sun. But as the saying goes, don't judge a book by it's cover. Maybe they teach specialized techniques in each approach of these modules?

While I agree that the $997 (or $497) is steep for someone just trying to make a stable income online, chances are, what they teach will generate back the ticket price, and possibly thousands more.

If you really don't have alot of $$$ to work with right now, I suggest starting with the 30Day Challenge... that's where I started, and I grew from there.

Or you could always PM me... I'm always willing to help

Cheers mate!

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cubaguy 14 years ago

Thanks Jon for the overview... Looks like more rehash....
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terrysteffen

14 years ago

Would love to hear from someone who purchased this and could share their opinion of the material... Is there similar info available in the forums or WSO's? Thanks!

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mikeh66 14 years ago

Just listened to the sales flash presentation. Very well done. Price was $497. Not sure if I'll get it, but I have paid that and more for some products in the past. On the high end but not unheard of by any means.

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jonlefave

14 years ago

bebryfry1, I got your PM... but can't send a message until I hit 50 posts! Shucks, apparently I'm a noob!

30 Day Challenge is a free training program by Ed Dale and his staff... most IMers start off with the 30DC, one prime example is Jason Moffatt.

Just Google "Thirty Day Challenge"

I'm not too sure if you're a beginner or maybe have some IM experience, but I'll tell you... every year I learn something new from 30DC, so it's not too shabby (price is right, too!)

BUT I think I might check out the Fast Income Formula ... looks interesting.

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hogiej

14 years ago

You can actually get this for $397. When you get to the clickbank order page, close it and a pop up appears with a $100 discount. At least that's what happened when I did it last night. I almost made the purchase; but decided to ask a few questions first. Have not heard back yet.

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bebryfry1

14 years ago

thanks mikeh66, jonlefave and hogiej. yes the flash presentation does look very convincing. maybe ill see if i can try that pop up hogiej mentioned before.. If one of you guys do plan to buy it, will it be worth the investment? Personally for me its a lil to much, i dont want to have to spent a lot and then find out that i need to spend even more with other things like hosting website or buying other software/product etc etc. In that case all that info can be researched and practically find it for free. Then again...that flash presentation got me ....would still like to hear a review if one of you plan on buying it. thanks

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kschan 14 years ago

Hi Guys,

This is prolly one of my first posts, though I have been a member since a few years! (ok that was an old account)

I was also nearly suckered by the nice presentation, until I decided to look for reviews and read betweenthe lines.

Judging from this table of contents listed by one someone, these guys won't offer new or monumental. For example:

They talk about social media traffic and I can't imagine that they could come out with anything different or better that from Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher when it comes to web 2.0. and these guys are some of the best there are.

The Traffic that comes from others that the fastincomeformula guys mention in their presentation, prolly comes from ad swaps, JVs and affiliates and this is nothing special.

If you follow Howey Schwartz, he gives you alot of juicy freebies on all sorts of topics from finding hot niches using little know tools offered by google to free online mobile marketing apps. I'm talking like cutting edge (or not so cutting sometimes) techniques in 49 page ebooklets regularly, but his paid stuff is really pricey so hes out for me.

I would also rather spend $49 a month and to join Kim Roach's superaffiliateclub, at least she is not afraid to tell you exactly what she does, how she does it and the results afterwards. She usually tells you this before selling you anything and you know she has even more juicy stuff inher arsenal.

Another person to look out for is this up and coming frenchy who calls himself Vitavee and he has this forum where he shows you exactly how he went from 0 to profits where he shows you in real time how he makes $5500 in 8 days from literally zero... this guy is AWESOME (this costs 197 and is better than all the 997 products I have ever bought)

Googl it!

OK I have a better source of knowledge, but I'm not going to share it here as it is not allow to promote other forums.

All I can say is think carefully about spending your money as slick is not always the best, as Vita and Kim are not at all flashy, but they deliver the goods.

Well thats my tuppence!

Regards,

Dave
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- lrl 14 years ago
  
  This price, even at the $397 point seems a bit steep for the content as described. I did purchase the Cash Making Affiliate Sites program from this couple. I don't recall the price, but I believe it was a clickbank product and was reasonably priced. That product was quite good for relative beginners. It went through the usual process of selecting niche, review product, keywords, etc and specifically setting up a blog review site. Then traffic was on and off page SEO, social, PPC, etc.
  
  So all in all, I think the Cash Affiliate site program is very good for starters. I just don't see the additional value in the FastIncome Formula. It sounds as though there is a focus on email marketing and, perhaps a more descriptve organization such as positive profit sites and negative profit sites.
  
  I am interested to see the real program, but not enough to give up $397. However, I do commend them for what they have done, if the story is true. Nice that some mentor just showed up at the right time....
  
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14 years ago

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NetWorth

14 years ago

I saw the presentation too. I like some of the new guys who come out and show you exactly what their doing in their program like 3 hour profit plan. I get the feeling that these guys made all their money sell get rich quick stuff to people like use. I like guru's who have moved into physical products and hard goods instead of trying to sell a $400 dollar product to a bunch of people who are working hard to make money.

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bebryfry1

14 years ago

thanks kschan, lrl and NetWorth I think a verdict has been concluded on this one lol. Most likely these are topics that are the same ol' marketing stuff like SEO, social, PPC, etc. Still $397 is a lot for me when I can barely earn $500 a month from my regular JOB (Just-Over-Broke). I dunno, seems like i'll try something else.. I prefer when people actually show us what they earn on a live screen video capture thingy rather than telling/showing us screen shots or some clickbank pictures.

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kenwarrior

14 years ago

Can anyone explain what the difference is between this $497 course and the Cash Making Affiliate Sites clickbank course which you can trial for $4.95?, from the same vendor only a few months ago?

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kschan

14 years ago

Hey bebryfry1,

I just emailed you and I hope you don't mind!
Please check your spambox

, don't worry I'm not a spammer.

GReetings,

Dave (AKA KSCHAN)

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bebryfry1

14 years ago

theres nothing in either my regular mailbox and my warrior forum mailbox

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dellpcman

14 years ago

Here is my review of this product, the Fast Income Formula by Melford & Concetta Bibens, I bought it last week as I'm desperate to increase my clickbank sales and I fell for the sales pitch, it was a big mistake.

Although it's called the Fast Income Formula, only buy this product if you want to learn at a snails pace, I'll explain shortly.

But before I get to the product I have review the sales process as it was horrible!

After paying $497 via credit card, after going throught the long video sales pitch, you don't get to the downloads page, no, you are made to watch through another 4/5 video one-time-offer video upsells, lasting maybe another 20-30 minutes, which you cannot bypass or click past, you have to let play to get to the download page, these offers were pretty rediculous starting at about $997 and working down to maybe $197. I mean who is going to spend another $997 with someone before they have even seen word of the product they have just paid for?

Ok, we finally get to the down load page, I'm full of energy excited to get my hands on the Fast Income Formula for which I have just paid in FULL $497, what do I get instead?

I get a page that says Week 1!

I see that I'm not getting the whole course in one piece, it's going to be drip fed to me over ?? weeks, so not only do they do not mention this in the extensive lenghty sales video, they also do not even tell me now that I'm a customer and paid in full over how many weeks I will have to wait to get all the full course!, how does that work with the 30 day money back guarantee?

Quite frankly I believe that this falls into the category of deceptive advertising, borderline fraud, it is quite deliberate

OK, what about the Week 1 content, all I can say is that it is pretty worthless to anyone unless you have not online for more than 1 week, a bunch of videos and pdf files that cover complete beginner stuff like getting a domain name, getting hosting and how to use the google external keyword tool etc, other words 101 educational that you can get for free, explained much better, on thousands of websites just by using google.

I've sent a number emails to their support desk requesting that I am either sent the full course or a refund, or at least tell me when the rest of the course will be sent

I've had no replies to my questions, I've requested a refund, no answer, I don't want to call this a scam, but this product has been very carefully designed to extract as much money as possible out of you, beware!

This has been my worst IM product purchase experiance ever!

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set4lyfe 14 years ago

I could have written this post - exact same experience! I have never encountered a non responsive vendor. Any ideas on how to proceed?
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dellpcman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by honestbizpro

That is an old school move to create the content as you go along..while getting paid in full!

thanks for that insight, I never actually considered that the full product might not have being created yet

It's very telling that there no testimonials for this product anywhere!

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Crew Chief

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dellpcman

thanks for that insight, I never actually considered that the full product might not have being created yet

It's very telling that there no testimonials for this product anywhere!

There are testimonies... they just aren't good. Honestly, there are some WSO's and free material in the War Room that would most likely propel you to reach your monetary goals without the headaches or concerns this product has caused you.

I see that you are not a War Room Member; take the plunge! It'll be a much better investment. I hate to sound like an advertisement but the truth is the truth.

Interesting, after checking my email something struck me as ODD. These couple selling the package you bought launched their package literally at the same time Jeff Johnson launched his... with the exact same name???

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RyanParenti

14 years ago

I am sure it is an OK product but just concentrate on what works.. The basics.

You don't need any fads. Just build a list and drive traffic to affiliate offers through your list.

Make list building your priority and you will be fine.

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bebryfry1

14 years ago

Thank you dellpcman. your review has cleared my mind and on my way on just using google to find free training. I knew people like this will just keep sucking more money outta you with more up-sells and such.

Rite now im trying something else as recommended by another warrior member, jonlefave, the "Thirty Day Challenge".. just google it, its by Ed Dale.

its FREE and you'll be getting it probably the same format as "Fast Income Formula"
you'll be getting new lessons for the next 30 days. The first few are kinda basic but still helpful.

Im really tired of all these people with huge list and what not charging ridiculous amounts of money for basic things that can be found online. Why cant they just admit that they have been doing this for YEARS to get where they are today. Most likely people wont even make $1,000 in 7 moths!!!There is no "Fast Formula"

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dellpcman

14 years ago

Update

the vendor has taken the trouble to write a number posts on other threads defending his product/customer service etc, addressing posts I have made about my disatisfaction with his product

Yet I still have not had any further course updates, offer of a refund or any emails from their customer support, what a piece of rubbish this vendor is.

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CaptainDoc

14 years ago

Thanks dellpcman for the heads up. I came to the warrior forum because this guy sounded like he was full of BS. Now I am convinced. You saved me $495 and a lot of headaches.
If you are still having trouble getting your refund just do a charge back on his ass and send your credit card company a copy of the refund policy he advertised and your CC company will rule in your favor. Most credit card companies are now familiar with these internet marketing worthless porducts.

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John Atkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bebryfry1

WoW!! Jeez.. at a $497.00 price point who does Melford & Concetta Bibens think we are?!?!?! I would truly love to be making what Melford & Concetta Bibens make online (what they claim to be making) or at least $3,000/month online. But really .... really almost $500?!?!

Lol. So what if it's $497?

I'm not defending them here, heck, I don't even know them, but
seriously...

People charge whatever they want for their products.

If you can't afford it or you don't like that price tag, then just don't
buy it mate.

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dellpcman

14 years ago

Update - 8 days after I ordered no reply to my requests for a refund or the full course, no pm from the vendor asking to quickly resolve this, then I get module 3&4 sent to me but not module 2, go figure I gave up on this a while ago

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Jeremy Kelsall

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dellpcman

Update - 8 days after I ordered no reply to my requests for a refund or the full course, no pm from the vendor asking to quickly resolve this, then I get module 3&4 sent to me but not module 2, go figure I gave up on this a while ago

Why not save yourself some drama and just contact clickbank?

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dellpcman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Why not save yourself some drama and just contact clickbank?

It's not a clickbank product!
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- Jeremy Kelsall 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by dellpcman
  
  It's not a clickbank product!
  
  hehe
  
  errr...in that case continue the bashing
  
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- Zach Booker 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by dellpcman
  
  It's not a clickbank product!
  
  I wonder why, lol.:rolleyes:
  
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dellpcman

14 years ago

Update:

It is now 2 weeks since I made the BIG mistake of buying this product, I still have not had ANY reply from the vendor regarding my request for a refund, so I now have to go to the trouble of sending back a letter to the CC company with all the details.

For those who are thinking of buying this product, don't, I'll save you $497 and give you all the secrets here:

1. find a niche
2. find some keywords
3. write some articles
4. install a wordpress blog
5. install some pluggins
6. get some links
7. collect emails
8. send emails to list

thats it, rinse and repeat until you are very rich!

this is the fast income secret system, wow I know that you are impressed!!

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14 years ago

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dellpcman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by André Silverspoon

...$89,000 in a month!.

I don't believe for 1 second that they made that figure using this "system", they have a whole bunch of their own clickbank products they sell, and other websites, I think it's a very misleading claim!

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alsmith1

14 years ago

I also purchased this product and had about the same opinion as DellPCMan, except I did receive a quick response on the refund, I submitted a support ticket for the refund, if you haven't done this, you might want to try. If you haven't purchased this, it is a waste of money IMHO.

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dellpcman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by alsmith1

I also purchased this product and had about the same opinion as DellPCMan, except I did receive a quick response on the refund, I submitted a support ticket for the refund, if you haven't done this, you might want to try. If you haven't purchased this, it is a waste of money IMHO.

my requests for a refund are in the support ticket system, they have either been closed or are still open, I have submitted more requests for a refund, must have low grade support person working it

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dellpcman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by alsmith1

If you haven't purchased this, it is a waste of money IMHO.

If you can install a wordpress blog 80%+ of this course is redundant
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pydy9916

14 years ago

I have been a member here for a few years but not posted much. During my newbie days I fell for something like one of these offers..well I decided to try again with Fast Income Formula and did the upgrade to get the "websites" that are sent to you at a rate of 2 a week.

The first emails came about one week apart. The first one had links to Week 1 and Week 2 of the course..same for the second, two links to wk 3 and wk4.

Each of course weeks is pretty basic..you spend time learning how to keyword search, sign up for host gator and get a domain name, then learn all about setting up email responders and blog plugins.

Pretty basic stuff but if you are totally new to this game the videos did give good pointers and walk you through everything. They also teach you all the elements of a squeeze page and how to build one properly.

My problem is the websites they sent...the first two were MMM and anxiety!! Are they kidding? Talk about over saturated markets.

Yes they do emphasize building the list as the way to make affiliate income and they use Clickbank..nothing wrong with any of it but again very basic.

I don't think I really learned anything new...I have an SBI site and their keyword software is so good that I use it for keyword search..no going to "multiple" sites to check words, rankings, trends..yuk. Too much time.

I did ask for a refund yesterday and got a response from support within a few hours that it was being processed but the priority listed is "low"..if no refund within a week I will address it thru my credit card company.

Honestly, I have gotten better info here from WSO's, but I will say that if the whole package was really worth it I wouldn't hesitate to spend money like that. Just don't think it is worth it.

Just my 2 cents..
Mary Kay

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pydy9916

14 years ago

For anyone not getting a refund..I did not go directly to the "support" desk as I saw it was outsourced and I have had problems with that particular support venue before (no I don't return alot of stuff!).

There is an email address contained in the emails you got..info @ fast income dot com (I think)....try that one it was the one I used. Put order numbers in email etc...

btw...I got the third website today...Forex.

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dellpcman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by pydy9916

btw...I got the third website today...Forex. Yea right.

forget about forex, it's saturated beyond belief!

so are you getting a fully built blog online with domain ready to go, with content, or do you still have to build it?, post a link if you can so we can see they these things look like
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