Video Sales Letter Formula (Ryan Deiss) - Any Thoughts?

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I'm intrigued by Ryan Deiss' Video Sales Letter Formula.

I have lately been completely turned off by VSLs. Those fancy 45 minute videos of somebody flashing their houses and cars really nauseates me. But I think the VSL for this product is very good and I also really liked the one for Facebook Ad Power. There's a completely different quality to them.

As usual, Ryan's products come in at a fairly high price point ($197). Yea, I could get it and just see for myself - probably will. It looks worth it, if it works (and I believe him that it does). But I'd like to take a shot and see if anybody has gotten this and what you've thought. Thanks everybody.

*Will post my review here if I decide to buy.

*Did get it... scroll down to see my review
#deiss #formula #letter #ryan #sales #thoughts #video
  • Profile picture of the author getveryrich_net
    Hi,

    I am also quite impressed with the VSL and have even located two reviews:

    I have PM you the links as I can't post them until my post count gets to 15
    :-(

    Maybe for the benefit of other you could post them?

    I am however still undecided due to the $197 price tag.

    Hope this helps you.

    Regards
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      • Profile picture of the author AdamHolland
        I'm more interested to see if there's any upsells.

        I know it's an important aspect as a marketer to increase your margins, etc.. but it p*sses me off as a customer. I mean, it's annoying as hell!

        Now, I'm releasing a product in about 2 weeks and I'm currently working on a video sales letter.. so this is PERFECT TIMING for me. $197 is a drop in the bucket.. but seriously - if I get it and there's a 100/mo continuity, a 497 upsell, and another 1997 upsell on the backend.. i won't be responsible for my actions ;-)

        Don't get me wrong - I'll pay $2999 for a good product (and I have). But the snake oil salesmen thing is killing my patience ;-)

        (Even my product is going to be $997. But EVERYTHING is going to be included.. You want a 'lower price'? How's monthly payments? hehe)

        (OK END OF RANT)

        So does anyone know more about this product or about the backend sales process (if any)?

        Adam
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        • Profile picture of the author paul_simister
          I probably wrote one of those reviews mentioned above and as an affiliate I obviously have a financial interest in convincing you to buy.

          This is a product I've been waiting for a long time.

          Ryan Deiss is a master at selling by video and you just need to watch his videos for this together with Facebook Ad Power, GMail Advertising etc to realise what a good and effective process he has.

          What I liked about it is that Ryan didn't hold back. Instead he laid it all out so you can see what he's doing and why.

          The program, is quite short and I see that as a good thing. No time wasting fluff.

          It means you can watch, write your script and watch it again in the time many IMers would take to present the info.

          It is very concise and you'll take plenty of notes - I know I did.

          He also banished a few of those thoughts that may be stopping you from producing sales videos. There are also supplementary videos for the techie stuff.

          I've been so tempted for so long but I get frightened off by the complexity and all the fancy bells and whistles you see in some marketing videos.

          Very nice when you can do the clever stuff but it's not me.

          It's only after I watched this program that I realised Ryan doesn't do any any of that stuff and his videos sell a trainload.

          Here's the link to my review

          Video Sales Letter Formula Review

          I was going to post the other one mentioned but when I searched, I couldn't see any evidence that the person has seen the product.
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          • Profile picture of the author Global365
            I really hate those videos that hide the controls, and then he says in 3 minutes I will explain, blah, blah blah, and it goes beyond 3 minutes, 4 minutes 5min, 6 min......bye bye
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            • Profile picture of the author Amanda_Davis
              Yes there are upsells - there always are for Ryan's low-end products.

              It's worth knowing that this is included in the Total Access Club that's $97/month.
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              • Profile picture of the author paul_simister
                I think most people have been trained to ignore upsells.

                It's a conditioned response for me to say No.
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                • Profile picture of the author dseisner
                  Originally Posted by paul_simister View Post

                  I think most people have been trained to ignore upsells.

                  It's a conditioned response for me to say No.
                  Well then I'll pose a question. Why does every major player in IM use them and swear that it increases their profits every time, including Ryan Deiss?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
                    Originally Posted by dseisner View Post

                    Well then I'll pose a question. Why does every major player in IM use them and swear that it increases their profits every time, including Ryan Deiss?
                    Simple, because it DOES increase the profits every time ...

                    I could honestly care less what you think as an individual, because that doesn't really matter ... and, if you're basing your marketing on what "you" think, and not on the numbers, then you might be calling yourself a marketer, but you're really not.

                    And, although the overwhelming majority of WF members seem to think they're an average representation of the clients of most of the "major players", they're not. Not by a long shot.

                    Seeing 20 people on a forum saying "I hate long videos", or "I hate upsells", or "I can't stand guru launches" means absolutely nothing ... videos are outperforming sales letters, the "guru" launches are making more money than ever, and to bring it all back home ... upsells add money to the bottom line.

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                    • Profile picture of the author dseisner
                      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

                      Simple, because it DOES increase the profits every time ...

                      I could honestly care less what you think as an individual, because that doesn't really matter ... and, if you're basing your marketing on what "you" think, and not on the numbers, then you might be calling yourself a marketer, but you're really not.

                      And, although the overwhelming majority of WF members seem to think they're an average representation of the clients of most of the "major players", they're not. Not by a long shot.

                      Seeing 20 people on a forum saying "I hate long videos", or "I hate upsells", or "I can't stand guru launches" means absolutely nothing ... videos are outperforming sales letters, the "guru" launches are making more money than ever, and to bring it all back home ... upsells add money to the bottom line.

                      - Gary Ambrose

                      Yea, my question was rhetorical, so I actually agree with you.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Amanda_Davis
                      Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

                      Simple, because it DOES increase the profits every time ...

                      I could honestly care less what you think as an individual, because that doesn't really matter ... and, if you're basing your marketing on what "you" think, and not on the numbers, then you might be calling yourself a marketer, but you're really not.
                      I agree with Gary. People use upsells because they work.

                      If you don't want to use them in your own business, then don't. If you disagree with them on moral grounds, then don't use them.

                      You'll make less cash, but it's not always just about the cash.

                      It's your choice - but don't whine about it!
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            • Profile picture of the author workfromhomejobs
              Originally Posted by Global365 View Post

              I really hate those videos that hide the controls, and then he says in 3 minutes I will explain, blah, blah blah, and it goes beyond 3 minutes, 4 minutes 5min, 6 min......bye bye
              It is the new trend. I believe this new marketing strategy is taught in a high end course. You know those gurus mastermind group.
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        • Profile picture of the author michaelbnielsen
          Originally Posted by AdamHolland View Post

          I'm more interested to see if there's any upsells.

          I know it's an important aspect as a marketer to increase your margins, etc.. but it p*sses me off as a customer. I mean, it's annoying as hell!

          Now, I'm releasing a product in about 2 weeks and I'm currently working on a video sales letter.. so this is PERFECT TIMING for me. $197 is a drop in the bucket.. but seriously - if I get it and there's a 100/mo continuity, a 497 upsell, and another 1997 upsell on the backend.. i won't be responsible for my actions ;-)

          Don't get me wrong - I'll pay $2999 for a good product (and I have). But the snake oil salesmen thing is killing my patience ;-)

          (Even my product is going to be $997. But EVERYTHING is going to be included.. You want a 'lower price'? How's monthly payments? hehe)

          (OK END OF RANT)

          So does anyone know more about this product or about the backend sales process (if any)?

          Adam
          Love that Adam... go get them..

          Michael
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        • Originally Posted by AdamHolland View Post


          Now, I'm releasing a product in about 2 weeks and I'm currently working on a video sales letter.. so this is PERFECT TIMING for me. $197 is a drop in the bucket.. but seriously - if I get it and there's a 100/mo continuity, a 497 upsell, and another 1997 upsell on the backend.. i won't be responsible for my actions ;-)

          Adam
          Adam,

          You may also want to look at Josh Bartlett's EasyVideoPlayer for your launch ... its a good compliment to Ryan's product ...

          I have made a post about this on my blog ...

          All the best,

          Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author dseisner
    I found a way to get this program for $1 by getting into Ryan's Total Access Club. Word on the street is that it is closed down but I found a link and had no problem. I am totally psyched to be in TAC because I think Ryan is one of the best marketers I've seen. I even like it when he sells to me (through these videos he's teaching us how to do). The only thing I don't like are his price points... but hey, the guy gets conversions and has a massive list and plenty of JV partners... so why wouldn't he? Plus, the two trainings of his that I've seen have been excellent (13 sneaky little email tricks and Video Sales Letter Formula). I am very excited to learn more of the training he has in the members area. I may even stay a member for $97/month (imagine that!)

    Anyway, to my review of VSLF. Straight up, an amazing product. One of the best I've seen. I was blown away by 13SLET and it has helped me for sure, but this one may be even better. There's just so many ways this is going to save me money and make me money it's insane. Summary of those...

    1) No need to spend thousands on a copywriter anymore
    2) No need to wait weeks for sales letters to be done
    3) Conversions will undoubtedly be much better

    What I like the most about Ryan's stuff is he TESTS like a madman. Everything is based on experience and well, I trust him. This formula is absolutely brilliant and I can't wait to put it into action. If you're on the fence for $197, I'd say get it. But better yet, I'd say become a TAC member. The kind of information you will learn for $1 is absolutely absurd. I know I'll look back in some time and really appreciate what Ryan (and his team) have done for my business.
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    • Profile picture of the author paul_simister
      I expect this loophole into the Total Access Club to be closed very quickly as Ryan has shifted his price point from $97 to $197.
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      • Profile picture of the author dseisner
        Originally Posted by paul_simister View Post

        I expect this loophole into the Total Access Club to be closed very quickly as Ryan has shifted his price point from $97 to $197.
        It's not a loophole. Ryan knows very well that he makes more money in the long run getting people into his continuity program than he does selling the products one time. Not to mention, when he releases something that is not included in his club, you bet that he's going to have more buyers because of TAC, considering how good his stuff is. If Ryan were on this thread and could chime in, I bet he'd tell you, "go ahead and sign up for $1!"

        FYI, price point is still $97 (at least that's what I'm in the system for and I signed up yesterday)
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Olson
          Originally Posted by dseisner View Post

          It's not a loophole. Ryan knows very well that he makes more money in the long run getting people into his continuity program than he does selling the products one time. Not to mention, when he releases something that is not included in his club, you bet that he's going to have more buyers because of TAC, considering how good his stuff is. If Ryan were on this thread and could chime in, I bet he'd tell you, "go ahead and sign up for $1!"

          FYI, price point is still $97 (at least that's what I'm in the system for and I signed up yesterday)
          I just tried it....the loophole is closed.
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          • Profile picture of the author willster74
            I've been through this training and it is very good and very detailed. They provide templates for the video sales letters, a 'magic button script' how to host the videos etc. All in all it's a detailed course with video demos on the mechanics of setting everything up.

            Ryan is upfront and will say though that there is not a one size fits all but gives his suggestions on what to include/test etc. Now I won't say that a video sales letter will always outperform a text sales letter. But in my mind is worth testing or you'll never know if it will work for you in your particular market.

            Also I have a niche market with a decent sales letter that is not converting very well so I will be testing a video sales letter :-)

            So my final verdict is if you want to try a video sales letter this training is well worth the investment and I liked the detail including all the demo videos and templates etc.

            Hope that was helpful!
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            • Profile picture of the author scannura
              if anyone likes that 'magic button' with the time delay you can find it for free online. I did some searching just for that software and found it for $27. Then I chanced upon a report that showed the software code (it's a mere couple lines) and I installed and tried it. It works fine. It pops up whenever you need it.


              if you want just that code, I would love to share it with you....yes for free.
              I would post it here but I only have 12 posts on here


              good luck
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            • Profile picture of the author Zero
              Originally Posted by willster74 View Post

              I've been through this training and it is very good and very detailed. They provide templates for the video sales letters, a 'magic button script' how to host the videos etc. All in all it's a detailed course with video demos on the mechanics of setting everything up.

              Ryan is upfront and will say though that there is not a one size fits all but gives his suggestions on what to include/test etc. Now I won't say that a video sales letter will always outperform a text sales letter. But in my mind is worth testing or you'll never know if it will work for you in your particular market.

              Also I have a niche market with a decent sales letter that is not converting very well so I will be testing a video sales letter :-)

              So my final verdict is if you want to try a video sales letter this training is well worth the investment and I liked the detail including all the demo videos and templates etc.

              Hope that was helpful!
              I only need to know 1 thing. Is it easy it as easy as he made it out to be on his video? I know, with anything it requires a bit of work..but yeah...i'm tempted i really am.
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            • Profile picture of the author helisell
              Originally Posted by willster74 View Post

              .........Now I won't say that a video sales letter will always outperform a text sales letter. But in my mind is worth testing or you'll never know if it will work for you in your particular market.

              ....
              I don't own the video sales letter product but.......my recent experience is that a video sales letter.....massively outperforms a text sales letter.

              Actually....when I first started all this stuff 5 years ago...I always thought of the www as a multiple channel tv station.

              Can you imagine tv ads that were just text?? Would they convert?.....I don't think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Valeriu Popescu
    The question I still have, beyond all the hype:do those video sales letters REALLY convert???!

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  • Profile picture of the author Amanda_Davis
    Is Total Access Club now $197/month?

    If you can find a trial then DEFINITELY go for it (it's usually an upsell) as you also get access to all the older products (e.g. Gmail Advertising, Sneaky Email Tricks, etc)
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  • Profile picture of the author ~Davor Debrecin~
    Upsell #1:

    Seller: Would like our burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
    Me: Yes!
    *Burger bought*
    Seller: Oh and would you like us - for just a fraction of price - to add another delicious ingredient in your burger making it even more delicious?
    Me: Wait a minute, you said that the burger I already bought can't be more delicious?
    Seller: Yes, but...
    *Burger thrown in the seller's face"

    Upsell #2

    Seller: Would like our tasty burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
    Me: Yes!
    *Burger bought*
    Seller: Would you like fries and Coke with your burger? It's 20% off in the menu?
    Me: Sure! Awesome!
    *Menu/upsell bought*

    If I stumble upon an upsell like upsell #1 I usually ask for a refund. If I they "upsell me" like in the #2, I'll be more than happy to take it.

    I don't know what's Ryan's upsell is about, but it usually is like the #2. So I don't think you'll get mad.

    Take care,

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    • Profile picture of the author dseisner
      Originally Posted by ~Davor Debrecin~ View Post

      Upsell #1:

      Seller: Would like our burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
      Me: Yes!
      *Burger bought*
      Seller: Oh and would you like us - for just a fraction of price - to add another delicious ingredient in your burger making it even more delicious?
      Me: Wait a minute, you said that the burger I already bought can't be more delicious?
      Seller: Yes, but...
      *Burger thrown in the seller's face"

      Upsell #2

      Seller: Would like our tasty burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
      Me: Yes!
      *Burger bought*
      Seller: Would you like fries and Coke with your burger? It's 20% off in the menu?
      Me: Sure! Awesome!
      *Menu/upsell bought*

      If I stumble upon an upsell like upsell #1 I usually ask for a refund. If I they "upsell me" like in the #2, I'll be more than happy to take it.

      I don't know what's Ryan's upsell is about, but it usually is like the #2. So I don't think you'll get mad.

      Take care,

      ~Davor Debrecin
      Dude, this is a perfect explanation. We see upsells in every selling environment and often take them (fries and a soda)! The upsell needs to be complimentary to the front-end product, not actually be the real product.
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      • Profile picture of the author ~Davor Debrecin~
        Originally Posted by dseisner View Post

        The upsell needs to be complimentary to the front-end product, not actually be the real product.
        Exactly!

        Take care,

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        • Profile picture of the author daveman
          I've been thinking of purchasing VSL so thanks for all the info. I just wanted to know if this product is worth the time and not just a rehash of some other existing product or a bunch of theory that may or may not work.

          Have you seen any results yet from VSL

          thanks

          David
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          • Profile picture of the author dseisner
            Originally Posted by daveman View Post

            I've been thinking of purchasing VSL so thanks for all the info. I just wanted to know if this product is worth the time and not just a rehash of some other existing product or a bunch of theory that may or may not work.

            Have you seen any results yet from VSL

            thanks

            David
            I haven't seen other products like it. Can't say if they exist or not.

            Haven't implemented yet. Plan to do so very soon.

            Only way to tell if it works is to try. Each VSL is going to be different. Even the best strategy poorly executed will not work.
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    • Profile picture of the author fypnlp
      that is the BEST metaphore to describe an upsell.

      Originally Posted by ~Davor Debrecin~ View Post

      Upsell #1:

      Seller: Would like our burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
      Me: Yes!
      *Burger bought*
      Seller: Oh and would you like us - for just a fraction of price - to add another delicious ingredient in your burger making it even more delicious?
      Me: Wait a minute, you said that the burger I already bought can't be more delicious?
      Seller: Yes, but...
      *Burger thrown in the seller's face"

      Upsell #2

      Seller: Would like our tasty burger? It's most delicious out of all burgers! There is no way for it to be more delicious!
      Me: Yes!
      *Burger bought*
      Seller: Would you like fries and Coke with your burger? It's 20% off in the menu?
      Me: Sure! Awesome!
      *Menu/upsell bought*

      If I stumble upon an upsell like upsell #1 I usually ask for a refund. If I they "upsell me" like in the #2, I'll be more than happy to take it.

      I don't know what's Ryan's upsell is about, but it usually is like the #2. So I don't think you'll get mad.

      Take care,

      ~Davor Debrecin
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    • Profile picture of the author louiefrias
      Davors verbal illustration of an "upsell" or "downsell" is one of the BEST I've ever seen! Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dupois
        I just purchased this with the coupon code for under $20. I'm very happy. Well worth $19 USD - lots of good stuff in there. I certainly wouldn't pay $190 odd for it though. Not given the plethora of high-quality WSOs available these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    It's good stuff. My company has been using video sales letters for quite a few products and Ryan includes some stuff that matches my experiences...which tells me he actually is using and testing this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Is there anything that Ryan offers that you can't just do yourself?

    Record a powerpoint / screencapture video...place on single squeeze page...ta-da?

    I mean the delayed order button script can be found online easily...and any decent copywriter can make sure the video is appealing...

    Am I missing something that makes the product worth $200?
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    • Profile picture of the author alliance
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Is there anything that Ryan offers that you can't just do yourself?

      Record a powerpoint / screencapture video...place on single squeeze page...ta-da?

      I mean the delayed order button script can be found online easily...and any decent copywriter can make sure the video is appealing...

      Am I missing something that makes the product worth $200?
      What screen capture video are you using. Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Dexx
        Originally Posted by alliance View Post

        What screen capture video are you using. Thanks
        I use camtasia, but Mac's have keynote also

        There's also Jing and Camstudio (both free)

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    • Profile picture of the author dseisner
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Is there anything that Ryan offers that you can't just do yourself?

      Record a powerpoint / screencapture video...place on single squeeze page...ta-da?

      I mean the delayed order button script can be found online easily...and any decent copywriter can make sure the video is appealing...

      Am I missing something that makes the product worth $200?
      Yea, you're missing a lot. It's a strategy, not just the tech stuff. Besides, there's a lot more tech issues to work out than what you just mentioned. It's definitely worth $200, no ifs ands or buts.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrainCopy
    Originally Posted by dseisner View Post

    I'm intrigued by Ryan Deiss' Video Sales Letter Formula.

    I have lately been completely turned off by VSLs. Those fancy 45 minute videos of somebody flashing their houses and cars really nauseates me. But I think the VSL for this product is very good and I also really liked the one for Facebook Ad Power. There's a completely different quality to them.

    As usual, Ryan's products come in at a fairly high price point ($197). Yea, I could get it and just see for myself - probably will. It looks worth it, if it works (and I believe him that it does). But I'd like to take a shot and see if anybody has gotten this and what you've thought. Thanks everybody.

    *Will post my review here if I decide to buy.

    *Did get it... scroll down to see my review
    I actually bought it not to long ago, I'm rather impressed with it.
    He even gives you a couple of templates, and the script as well.
    I'm not a fan of writing "sales copy" so I was automatically intrigued
    by what he had to offer.

    Best Regards,
    UFG
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    • Profile picture of the author dou9las
      Great thread, and I know it's a bit old now but...

      Why did no one post a link to this "loophole" that may or may not have been closed at this point? Or am I missing it?

      I'm interested in test driving Ryan Deiss's total access club, and if it helps me kill it on my upcoming launch, then I'll be happy to stay on as a member.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Steel
    Great Thread ... thanx -

    js
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  • Profile picture of the author Reeveso
    I just wanna say something quick.

    Although I'm a HUGE fan of video salesletters...

    THEY DO NOT INCREASE CONVERSIONS EVERY SINGLE TIME

    Usually - yes. Everytime - no.

    With that said... guys, it's only $197. Just get it, try it out with your own business. If it doesn't work - it's a tax write-off (or you can refund it). It if does work... you're gonna make a ton of extra money.

    Easy decision
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  • Profile picture of the author David Sieg
    I also bought it and thought it was worth the money. Does it increase conversions? Well, you know that is such a loaded question. It did increase mine, but not by much. It certainly didn't explode them to "3%-9%" But like any sales formula, there are a 100 things that go into a successful page. Be it video, or copy. I did use his formula, but found for my audience, 25 minutes was too long. I also ended up using copy underneath the video and gave the price right away without having to make people wait for it. My point is, he could have the greatest sales video on earth, but it has to be adapted to your audience. Which means you're back to testing, testing, testing. He also had a great section on up sells.

    All in all though I was happy with his product.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author paul_simister
      While the Total Access Club has closed, it has been superceded by the Digital Marketer Lab and that includes a number of Ryan Deiss's products including the Video Sales Letter Formula.
      For more details, please see my review.

      Digital Marketer Lab Review

      (warning - I am an affiliate)

      It also comes with a very long "the End Of the Web" video which Ryan is pushing at the moment and is creating some controversy.
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    Direct link to Digital Marketer Lab

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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I really do need to do a split-test sales letter of Andy Jenkin's-style "Boss" videos vs Deiss' videos to see which converts better (Deiss claims "fancy" videos don't do as well as plain text)

    That being said, if you look at Deiss' new video (for this Digital Marketer program) you'll see he goes back and forth between text-only AND slides with moving images etc.

    Interesting...
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Guys

      You don't have to pay $197 for this. He put out a coupon code to get it for only $19.97

      Just Google:

      video salesletter formula coupon code

      And you'll see it on the first page
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      • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
        Originally Posted by jasondinner View Post

        Guys

        You don't have to pay $197 for this. He put out a coupon code to get it for only $19.97

        Just Google:

        video salesletter formula coupon code

        And you'll see it on the first page
        Thanks - I guess it is not what you know - it's WHO you know!! If you stay all the way ti the end of the "Digital Marketer", he appreciates you listening to all his experts for that long and drops it to $97 a month instead of $197/MONTHLY Everything is changing but doesn't talk about curating sites!!!

        $19.97 is for the Ugly Sales Letter Hint: Let the video play and click over to a new window and work instead of watching a screen. That means $200K is $6,600 monthly for 30 experts?? Interesting. Hmmmm....
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        • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
          Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

          Thanks - I guess it is not what you know - it's WHO you know!! If you stay all the way ti the end of the "Digital Marketer", he appreciates you listening to all his experts for that long and drops it to $97 a month instead of $197/MONTHLY Everything is changing but doesn't talk about curating sites!!!

          $19.97 is for the Ugly Sales Letter Hint: Let the video play and click over to a new window and work instead of watching a screen. That means $200K is $6,600 monthly for 30 experts?? Interesting. Hmmmm....
          Really though,

          If you just Google "Video salesletter formula coupon code" you'll see how to get it for $19.97 instead of $97 x2.

          Yes - the video says $197 or $97 x 2, but the coupon code gives it to you for $19.97
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      I really do need to do a split-test sales letter of Andy Jenkin's-style "Boss" videos vs Deiss' videos to see which converts better (Deiss claims "fancy" videos don't do as well as plain text)

      That being said, if you look at Deiss' new video (for this Digital Marketer program) you'll see he goes back and forth between text-only AND slides with moving images etc.

      Interesting...
      I'm sure I'm not the only one who opens another window so I can do something else more important, like check old email accounts - then when the video ends go back. How does that effect the testing?
      [NOT affiliate links - the real big boys don't do it that way]

      Here's something for you to check out: Anne Holland's Which Test Won – A/B Test & Multivariate Testing Education for Marketing Professionals and for all the test geeks who can work the variant testing with the big boys: OnDialog | PURLs - Personalized URLs | landing pages | microsites [search for the freemium version]
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        I tried to purchase this product twice, but I got an error after I hit submit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      I really do need to do a split-test sales letter of Andy Jenkin's-style "Boss" videos vs Deiss' videos to see which converts better (Deiss claims "fancy" videos don't do as well as plain text)

      That being said, if you look at Deiss' new video (for this Digital Marketer program) you'll see he goes back and forth between text-only AND slides with moving images etc.

      Interesting...
      That back and forth seems to be a late trend in sales videos in the IM niche. In our tests between text only VS images/fancy stuff videos, the text only outperformed big time...this was in health/beauty niche though.
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