Anyone having great success with Brute Force SEO?

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Hey guys, just curious if anyone is having any major success?

I only ask because it's not compatible right now with my V64 machines, and there isn't anything substantial being reported over at the forum (a couple results; mostly low comp.)....

Basically, I have to stay on at 100/mo without any successful runs to wait for the update, so I'd really appreciate any feedback.

I will say, the software seems to have a lot of potential, but most of what I've found is inexperienced users adjusting to the learning curve and all functions are a no go on my trial due to incompatibility.

Thanks for any feedback!
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  • Profile picture of the author scene4u
    I tried it briefly and it seemed to have little effect on my rankings but that may be because I stopped using it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nikolaaa
      I subscribed for $1 trail but program didn't work.
      I sent email to Peter and to his support desk, but he didn't answer.
      I canceled subscription and forget that software.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richnana
        Same here with bruteforce. The $1.00 trial period ended and I was charged the full amount for the next month. I cancelled because I could never get any of the products to work. I comend Peter for some brilliant marketing strategies. But each time I try the $1.00 trial I can't get anything to work properly. I though it was my computer, mu operating system, my something... but alas1 It is the software that is buggy
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    I, like so many have wasted too much on his rubbish to ever consider trying it again.

    There seems to be a pattern whereby the product launches, the forum starts getting complaints and then gets locked.

    There's an interesting post here: I Won't Subscribe to Brute Force SEO | Lost Ball in High Weeds

    Not for me.

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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    Oops, posted twice for some reason.

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    Wow, no one with rave reviews?
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    You're right Kevin, it's nice when more than one little boy can see the Emperor's nudity! (Hans Christian Andersen's "The Emperor's New Suit")

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  • Profile picture of the author Danielle_B


    I'm not new to forums in the slightest, but I have to say, it's rather distasteful to see the public bashing of someone who is part of our group here on the WF. Even if the product isn't something you like or works out for you, there's no need to be ugly about it.

    /sigh.

    Up til' this point, I'd really only seen the good side of the Warriors here.

    I guess it was all too good to be true.

    Blah.

    ~D.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
      Originally Posted by Danielle_B View Post



      I'm not new to forums in the slightest, but I have to say, it's rather distasteful to see the public bashing of someone who is part of our group here on the WF. Even if the product isn't something you like or works out for you, there's no need to be ugly about it.

      /sigh.

      Up til' this point, I'd really only seen the good side of the Warriors here.

      I guess it was all too good to be true.

      Blah.

      ~D.
      Do you want the warrior forum to be a perfect world where everyone says nice things and nothing ever goes wrong?

      The OP asked for peoples opinions and people gave them, as far a si could see people were bashing the product and not the person.
      If people buy a product and dont like it, i think it gives them a right to comment
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      • Profile picture of the author Ricky Parker
        Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

        Do you want the warrior forum to be a perfect world where everyone says nice things and nothing ever goes wrong?

        The OP asked for peoples opinions and people gave them, as far a si could see people were bashing the product and not the person.
        If people buy a product and dont like it, i think it gives them a right to comment
        Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

        We must sugarcoat things to not cut in to other people's profits.

        "OPP, how can I explain it
        I'll take you frame by frame it
        To have y'all jumpin' shall we singin' it
        O is for Other, P is for People scratchin' temple
        The last P...well...that's not that simple"
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        • Profile picture of the author David Reed
          Glad to see everyone has given the software such a thorough examination.

          After all it is 5 days since it launched.

          If Peter hasn't answered any support desk queries then I'm surprised. I got a response within a couple of hours.

          Until I have run the program over a few niches I'll reserve judgement and not attack Peter or his software without knowing if it's the real deal.

          From what I can see above, not one of the posters has actually tried the software for a reasonable testing period.

          To me that is a personal attack on Peter Drew. How can it be a criticism of the software if you haven't actually tested it?

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    • Profile picture of the author cashflowmommy
      Originally Posted by Danielle_B View Post



      I'm not new to forums in the slightest, but I have to say, it's rather distasteful to see the public bashing of someone who is part of our group here on the WF. Even if the product isn't something you like or works out for you, there's no need to be ugly about it.

      /sigh.

      Up til' this point, I'd really only seen the good side of the Warriors here.

      I guess it was all too good to be true.

      Blah.

      ~D.
      I think most Warriors find it "distasteful" that certain marketers use this forum to extract money from our wallets in exchange for products that don't work as advertised and/or aren't properly supported. ***please see note below***

      Warriors are good people, and someday an honest but negative review might save you time, frustration, and your hard earned cash.

      Note: My comment above relates in general to WSO's, and is NOT necessarily directed towards Brute Force or its developer. My point is that we should not censor negative info about a product because the seller belongs to the forum, whether it's Pete or someone else.

      As for the Brute Force product, I don't see why you feel the owner is being "bashed". Yes, there are people unhappy with it because it doesn't work for them, but is that really bashing? I think what they've posted is quite relevant to others making a purchasing decision. Why shouldn't their voice be heard?
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
        Originally Posted by cashflowmommy View Post

        I think most Warriors find it "distasteful" that certain marketers use this forum to extract money from our wallets in exchange for products that don't work as advertised and/or aren't properly supported.

        Warriors are good people, and soon you'll thank them for saving you money.
        You are SO spot on - when marketers take you for a ride, take your money and "run", it's absolutely unforgivable.

        BUT - I must step back into this thread to say something in reply to this post. Peter Drew is not one of those people. He, and his products, have done nothing but HELP me grow my business and free up my time. Not only have I been successful with his products, he himself is extremely helpful and supportive to many.

        There are those that have had trouble with his latest software, Brute Force SEO. It's understandable to hear of their frustrations. BF is not perfect, and I also have run into problems with it. Does that mean it's not worth it? For me, it's definitely worth it, as I have been fortunate to reap the benefits of it. Whether or not it's worth it to you or anyone else is something you have to decide for yourself.

        Because a piece of software doesn't work for YOU, does that make it appropriate to make blanket statements and directly or indirectly bash a fellow Warrior? Sounds to me that you think because you have problems with a particular software, that makes the marketer responsible distasteful, irregardless of whether or not others love the software and are successful with it. Isn't that a bit... narrow minded?

        No personal offense meant in any of the above, to anybody.

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        • Profile picture of the author Paxton
          I'd like to echo Karen's sentiments from the above post.

          I've had quite a few dealings with Pete over the last few months and have 3 things to say:

          1. I like his products: They work for me and kind of appeal to my way of thinking
          2. His support has been spot on whenever I've needed it
          3. I like the guy

          Will his stuff work for everybody ? Probably not
          Will his stuff work with a little bit of elbow grease ? YES, absolutely

          Everybody is entitled to an opinion and I respect everybody's right to their opinion. In my opinion, Pete's stuff works and works well.

          If you're willing to grant me the same courtesy I grant you, then you'll just have to respect my opinion.
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          • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
            Had the full package for a few hours to have a look at it....then asked for a refund while saying that I would come back in a few months when the software was working as advertised...was denied. Pretty dissappointed....and surprised to be honest. Charge backs are a pain in the ass....will use this thread as proof that goods aren't as advertised.

            Pete has gone down IMO.

            Edit to say that I bought SENuke which ROCKS!
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        • Profile picture of the author cashflowmommy
          Originally Posted by Karen Newton View Post

          You are SO spot on - when marketers take you for a ride, take your money and "run", it's absolutely unforgivable.

          BUT - I must step back into this thread to say something in reply to this post. Peter Drew is not one of those people. He, and his products, have done nothing but HELP me grow my business and free up my time. Not only have I been successful with his products, he himself is extremely helpful and supportive to many.

          There are those that have had trouble with his latest software, Brute Force SEO. It's understandable to hear of their frustrations. BF is not perfect, and I also have run into problems with it. Does that mean it's not worth it? For me, it's definitely worth it, as I have been fortunate to reap the benefits of it. Whether or not it's worth it to you or anyone else is something you have to decide for yourself.

          Because a piece of software doesn't work for YOU, does that make it appropriate to make blanket statements and directly or indirectly bash a fellow Warrior? Sounds to me that you think because you have problems with a particular software, that makes the marketer responsible distasteful, irregardless of whether or not others love the software and are successful with it. Isn't that a bit... narrow minded?

          No personal offense meant in any of the above, to anybody.

          Karen
          Karen -- I'm glad the software worked for you and you've gotten value from it. I think it's great that you posted your comments, because EVERYONE's opinions should be welcome on this forum, whether it is praise or criticism.

          We can agree to disagree on this particular product.
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          • Profile picture of the author carik42
            As promised, an update on my situation.

            Unfortunately, things are still not working right for me. I feel pretty much like I did during my first post above - disappointed.

            Not because I've wasted $98 in all on something that didn't do what it was supposed to do (and there are no refunds), but because it was Pete, the guy that is streets ahead of many marketers.

            Like most people here, I've tried all of his products and although you have to get into Pete's train of thought to get the best out of them, they really are cutting edge.

            But, I can't help feeling that despite all the talk of this working wonders for the beta testers, this was a rush job. Part of me wants to stay a member so that I can grasp a better understanding of how the system will eventually evolve, but If I'm being perfectly honest, I think present members are paying $97 per month to be the REAL beta testers. That's not how it should be.

            Paxton & Karen Newton:

            From what I've seen in the BF forum, you guys have always been incredibly helpful to other members. I'm not sure if you were beta testers, or if you are part of the BF team, but every post I've read of yours is either defending Pete and BF, or telling people that it REALLY does work.

            The fact is, it hasn't worked for a LOT of people, and as wonderful as Pete is (as stated above), you simply cannot defend a $97 service that doesn't function properly. End of. Please, don't be offended by my comments because that's not my intention, I'm just stating a fact.

            So my association with BF will end before the next payment is due. But I will say this...if Pete gets this working as advertised, I'd be more than happy to pay $200, even $300 per month to have this weapon in my affiliate kit.

            Have I lost faith in Pete? No. He's one clever dude and you just have to sit up and take notice when he has a WSO on the table. But, if there is a next time, I will definitely wait and let others be the beta testers, and only step in when others say the system is stable.

            I'm off to invest in SENuke, sorry guys
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            • Profile picture of the author Paxton
              Originally Posted by carik42 View Post

              As promised, an update on my situation.

              Paxton & Karen Newton:

              From what I've seen in the BF forum, you guys have always been incredibly helpful to other members. I'm not sure if you were beta testers, or if you are part of the BF team, but every post I've read of yours is either defending Pete and BF, or telling people that it REALLY does work.
              Carik

              Yes, I was (and indeed still am) a beta tester for Brute Force. I'm not part of the development team and have no financial gain from Brute Force other then the money I earn using it.

              I don't promote Brute Force in any way - I don't even have an affiliate link for it and my explanation of why I don't have affiliate links was far from complimentary, but had nothing to do with the software itself. I don't base my recommendations on the amount of affiliate income I can make.

              Yes, the software has some issues which need sorting. Most of these seem to stem from Vista users. I'm one of those who use mainly XP. The guys at my local PC store think I'm a nutter when I buy new PC's with free Vista installed, tell them to uninstall it and then buy a copy of XP to install.

              This isn't just to use Brute Force. I have loads of applications which still have bugs with Vista, so I prefer to use these on XP machines. When all the issues get sorted out, then I'll make the transition to Vista.

              I'm not blindly defending Brute Force. I just happen to get good results from using the software and believe it's a very good application, issues and all.
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              • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
                Originally Posted by Paxton View Post

                Carik

                it's a very good application, issues and all.
                I think this is the point. Its good...but its not what he says it is at this moment in time....is it?

                Paying $97 to be BETA testers with no refund isn't on. That isn't what people signed up for.

                I like Pete a lot and reflect the sentiments of the poster above. Pete is a great marketer...but hes damaged himself here...though I'm sure he'll recover, learn the lessons he needs to learn from this experience and this will go on to perform as advertised.
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              • Profile picture of the author carik42
                Originally Posted by Paxton View Post

                Carik

                Yes, I was (and indeed still am) a beta tester for Brute Force. I'm not part of the development team and have no financial gain from Brute Force other then the money I earn using it.

                I don't promote Brute Force in any way - I don't even have an affiliate link for it and my explanation of why I don't have affiliate links was far from complimentary, but had nothing to do with the software itself. I don't base my recommendations on the amount of affiliate income I can make.

                Yes, the software has some issues which need sorting. Most of these seem to stem from Vista users. I'm one of those who use mainly XP. The guys at my local PC store think I'm a nutter when I buy new PC's with free Vista installed, tell them to uninstall it and then buy a copy of XP to install.

                This isn't just to use Brute Force. I have loads of applications which still have bugs with Vista, so I prefer to use these on XP machines. When all the issues get sorted out, then I'll make the transition to Vista.

                I'm not blindly defending Brute Force. I just happen to get good results from using the software and believe it's a very good application, issues and all.
                Hi Paxton,

                It's funny you know, when BF was in pre-launch and Pete was eager for everyone to promote their affiliate links, something inside told me to hold on. Looking back, I'm damn glad I did because promoting BF at that time would have done my relationship with my IM list no good at all. I know that's not your reason, but can you imagine the damage?

                I totally understand your XP/Vista comments. It's true that the majority of BF issues are related to Vista, but NOT ALL issues. I agree that Vista presents a number of issues with various applications, but as Pete has a team of top programmers (his words), he would have no doubt been very aware of the problems in beta, and could, or rather should, have released this to non Vista owners first while his team perfected it for Vista.

                I'm no programmer, but if BF was my idea and I was about to release it in such a delicate state, I wouldn't have had the nerve to not offer refunds. Maybe when it's 100% stable, but not when it's still effectively in beta.

                I've seen your success posts at BF Paxton and I'm glad it's working for you. If it wasn't for people like you on Pete's forum, there would be more confused people than there already is. Hats off.
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                • Profile picture of the author Paxton
                  A lot of good points being made here and I really appreciate the dialogue. It's nice to be able to participate in a forum discussion where wildly differing opinions are being aired and respected. Kudos.

                  I don't think anybody is here to unjustifiably knock a product or defend a product. It's a forum for opinions and that's what we're getting.

                  Do I believe Brute Force is a good marketing tool? Yes I do. Totally, but at the same time I can fully understand somebody who's shelled out the best part of $100 being a bit miffed if the application isn't 100% working as it should be.

                  I feel sure it will be sorted out and then the full potential can be there for all to see, but points taken from previous posters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    Everyone is entitled to their opinions, although Bruteforce hasn't been out very long it is basically all his other software packaged together which people have been using and having problems with for a while.

    I am sure Peter is big enough to stand up for himself if he wants to without other people thinking they have to defend him because people don't like his software
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  • Profile picture of the author nikolaaa
    I didn't test software becase it didn't work.
    I would like that I have, but if you sell software for $97 per month you must have support and asnwer on emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
    I am with David on this one. I am testing it too on a few niches and I think it is far too early to tell if it is working or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    I've had two refund from Pete because the stuff doesn't work, or it's too complicated to implement.

    I too am sick and tired of people sugar coating other people's stuff just because they sold lots of copies and other people said they were great.

    I'm not saying Pete is a con artist or a bad bloke, just that it didn't work for me (none of his stuff lived up to my expectations) and I personally don't think that such techniques, whether automated or not, will be able to stand the test of time.

    Why not?

    Google is one of the biggest brands the world ever has seen. They built (and continue to build) their brand on complex algorithms that allow the most suitable, rich and authorative content to be displayed higher than the spam/junk.

    So, you might shoot to the top of Google for some long tail, useless keyword for a few months, but I can assure you that Google (and other SE's) are wise enough to see past such nonsense.

    I don't care whether you disagree either, we'll see who's right in 2 years time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post


      So, you might shoot to the top of Google for some long tail, useless keyword for a few months, but I can assure you that Google (and other SE's) are wise enough to see past such nonsense.
      Now this is the truth.. SEO guys might not agree, but i will say dont think chasing Google will guarantee your paycheck forever.. once they change their algothrim, you will never be in there if you use fishy methods to get in..

      Look beyond Google, and start picking up new ways to marketing things.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        I signed up for the $1 trial to take a look around the software, but after having a look I cancelled my subscription. To me, it seems to be all about spamming the SE's and that's never a good idea, and I don't think there's any long term benefits to this business model. Whatever happened to 'content is king'?
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        • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
          Originally Posted by Hamida Pall View Post

          Whatever happened to 'content is king'?
          It's alive and kicking. The content sites will totally cane these fly by night methods.

          These BS systems are not running business, and as such will not stand a chance in the long haul.

          It's like me giving out crappy, sloppy, foot-in-mouth disease ridden burgers outside a McDonald's and expecting everyone to stop in their tracks and kiss my a##e for presenting such an amazing offer before what they were really looking for.
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          • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
            Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

            It's alive and kicking. The content sites will totally cane these fly by night methods.

            These BS systems are not running business, and as such will not stand a chance in the long haul.

            It's like me giving out crappy, sloppy, foot-in-mouth disease ridden burgers outside a McDonald's and expecting everyone to stop in their tracks and kiss my a##e for presenting such an amazing offer before what they were really looking for.
            Nick,

            Stop been a *****

            So you don't like Petes stuff, it's not for you.

            Don't use it then, no need for the kind of shit you are coming out with.

            No arguments, end of, I won't reply again, you have certainly sullied your reputation with me.

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            • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
              Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

              Nick,

              Stop been a prick!

              So you don't like Petes stuff, it's not for you.

              Don't use it then, no need for the kind of shit you are coming out with.

              No arguments, end of, I won't reply again, you have certainly sullied your reputation with me.

              Darren
              I'm not having a go at Pete personally, I'm just telling you the truth about one aspect of internet marketing. I'm not saying Pete's stuff is bad, I am just saying people need to realize the truth about SEO and building a real business.

              P.S

              I'm sorry if I ruined my reputation with you, but to be honest I don't care if someone wants to call me a "prick" decides to think what they want of me.

              It's about time this attitude was dropped and this forum became a place where you could express your opinions without being publicly insulted.

              Shame on you, and even more shame if you think that an adult argument involves insulting someone then "running away".
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              • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
                Nick,

                removed the 'p' word, maybe a little hasty,

                But this thread does seem a little harsh towards Pete and his products, I have never personally used any of them so have no opinions on whether they work or not. I also agree that it possibly isnt the best way of running a business.

                But I do believe the words and way you said it wasnt right

                Darren
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                • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
                  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                  Nick,

                  removed the 'p' word, maybe a little hasty,

                  But this thread does seem a little harsh towards Pete and his products, I have never personally used any of them so have no opinions on whether they work or not. I also agree that it possibly isnt the best way of running a business.

                  But I do believe the words and way you said it wasnt right

                  Darren
                  Ok, maybe I came across a little harsh too. But sometimes it's hard to make a dent whilst pushing soft cheese. It's not an attack a Pete, although I personally don't like his products, I am also saying that his products clearly work for certain people.

                  It's more of a realization that people need to start being honest about this sort of thing and if something doesn't work, just blooming well say so.

                  The fact that people are so afraid to speak openly about systems or products just makes our community less honest, less genuine and less worthwhile when you have a sea of people quivering at the thought of speaking the truth (based on their own personal experiences).

                  So, if you're reading this and wondering about Pete's stuff, here's my recommendation:

                  GO BUY IT AND TRY IT.

                  If it works for you, then great. If not, the refund policy is in place and Pete is a good guy and will refund you if you ask for a refund.

                  Graphics Genie, Let's be friends. I respect you, and I know you respect me (deep down in your heart?) ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    And to quote from I Won't Subscribe to Brute Force SEO | Lost Ball in High Weeds

    "I mean, if he did the same thing with a topic that mattered, say "Tour de France", and for 3 pages all I got was the same basic listing to go to one page, as a web surfer I'd be pretty pissed. No one wants to wade through three pages of listings only to be given the same information at every webpage. It's stupid. It doesn't bring value and sooner or later Google will take notice."

    Finally, an internet marketer who has got some balls and a brain and isn't afraid to show either of 'em. However, he or she is also very negatively balanced and seems to slate alot of people's products, such as Commission Blueprint which was totally outstanding in my opinion. So, make up your own mind based on the facts, not just one or two opinions! It might work for you, it might not.

    Go forth!

    P.S

    Either way, it's about time we started developing a back bone, people.
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  • Profile picture of the author batchos
    I didn't test ButeForce but I tested BadAss Article Submitter (very vulgar names). I had a failure rate of 8/10.

    I also tested Peter's customer service skills. Very sensitive to comments about his product and told me, "No one is having problems with the program."

    I immediately cancelled my subscription and delete all emails about BruteForce.

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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    Dudes.... Chill!

    Sucks that Pete hasnt been able to reply to this thread and you guys don't like his current product, offer him some feedback, that way he can improve and find out exactly what YOU expected from the service when you signed up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Also, if you go back and look at all of my responses to this post, you will see that I consistently refer to "my opinion" and that I "am not attacking Pete personally or directly"...rather I am just making a point about this sealed lips mentality about IM products or services, particularly in this forum.

    You don't go to Amazon and see all the buyers give a glowing review, frightened to say what they think about a product (good or bad) do you? No, because they are giving PERSONAL opinions based on their own experiences. But that doesn't stop people buying stuff off Amazon, it just makes the entire community more trustworthy and believable.

    P.S

    The reason why people are not afraid to slate products on Amazon is because they don't have to worry about others nailing them. They don't have to worry about being a "guru basher" because in the real world, a good product is a good product and a bad one is a bad one.

    Just because you've made a hot series of radio shows doesn't make you immune to being publically destroyed when you try TV or even just release your next podcast.

    If people just stopped worrying about what other Warriors thought of them and spoke their mind, perhaps they might just get a 25% following of loyal friendships, instead of a 100% following of wishy washy, sat on the fence sheep type of "friendships".

    No offence to anyone who took it, just saying stuff that's on my mind.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post


        Pass the bag please.......

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  • Profile picture of the author Danielle_B
    At the risk of having my quote dragged through the mud again, my intention was NOT to say that critiques are not welcome, or that I was defending Pete or his product.

    However, I DO believe in the value of constructive criticism and the ability to find a product unsatisfactory for whatever reason w/o being inflammatory.

    Considering the wealth of information you ALL bring to the table about the IM world, I would think that offering your reasons for your dissatisfaction and suggestions for areas of improvement might benefit the group and the product producer as a whole.

    If that makes me ideological, then so be it. We've been subjected to enough smear campaigns on TV recently in the states; I didn't really want to see it here too.

    There are plenty of posts around this forum that aren't supportive of many products or services, and they're able to say so in a diplomatic fashion. You can't discount the fact that people are more willing to take criticism of their work when it's offered in a neutral manner.

    That's all I was trying to say and I'm sticking to it.

    ~D.
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  • Profile picture of the author flnz400
    Um.... lol

    Geez guys. I guess I should have done a poll instead (and waited to sit down with a beer)... or a simple

    -nah, not up to par

    -yeah, love it

    would be fine. lol I don't understand the shit storm.
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    • Profile picture of the author bill05
      Wow!

      Some real over the top comments here.
      I have known Pete for a few years and he has always been a straight shooter and always been a help to others in any forum. Why he or his products are getting bashed here is "suspect" and unfounded.

      The program is designed to use 2.0 sites to create backlinks to a quality content rich site of your choice. Or to opt-in pages with quality products of your choice. Or any other thing that could benefit from backlinks. Backlinks from feeder site, bookmark sites, video sites...

      It's the same thing you do manually and Pete's big thinking with his brilliant programmer have figured out some ways to automate the manual labor.

      Yeah it's little complex but that's good - is it not?

      It is an amazing linking system - if you do not need a linking system that works, then don't use it.

      But why slam a decent bloke like Pete in the process?

      And with everything else he offers a trial for a measly sum.
      And if you could grasp it - this thing is doing some pretty cool stuff.

      And YES - it really does work!

      IMHO
      Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author Paxton
        Anybody care to name one single product that has been universally liked by all ???

        I can't think of any, so why should Brute Force or any of Pete's other products be any different ?

        Case in point: I'm allergic to penicillin. What is a life saver for millions is a killer for me. Does that make penicillin any less valuable ? No, or course not. Might not be any good from my personal point of view, but just because I can't use it doesn't mean it's no good.

        I'm one of those who has seen very satisfactory results from using Brute Force. Given the circumstances prevailing TODAY, it's a valid application for a valid business model.

        Sure, a couple of years down the line the search engines might do away with a lot of things. Who knows. Google might decide to do away with PPC for example. Should we stop using PPC because Google MIGHT do away with in a year?

        Not shrewd that, not shrewd at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author wilson765
          Wow! What has Pete done to you guys?

          I first came across his badass reports and after the success I had with them simply couldn't wait for it all to be automated and I've not been disappointed

          I am sorry that a few seem to have had such a difficult time with it but it has certainly not been my experience.

          Please accept there is a learning curve then add a bit of kind patience and it will work for you. If you really can't get on with it then accept that it may just be 'you' and cancel your sub graciously.

          But most importantly for all us warriors we need to accept it's a tool, nothing more, tools don't create success the people using them do.

          As someone once said - (this is my poor paraphrasing)

          "I have a spade lying on my garden and I'm furious it hasn't dug me a hole yet. The salesman said it was the best spade he had, yeah sure I've bought loads of spades, even stuck some of them in the ground, but they all require more effort than I thought, although I've seen one advertised that really will be a lot easier."
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        • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
          Originally Posted by Paxton View Post

          Anybody care to name one single product that has been universally liked by all ???

          I can't think of any, so why should Brute Force or any of Pete's other products be any different ?

          Case in point: I'm allergic to penicillin. What is a life saver for millions is a killer for me. Does that make penicillin any less valuable ? No, or course not. Might not be any good from my personal point of view, but just because I can't use it doesn't mean it's no good.

          I'm one of those who has seen very satisfactory results from using Brute Force. Given the circumstances prevailing TODAY, it's a valid application for a valid business model.

          Sure, a couple of years down the line the search engines might do away with a lot of things. Who knows. Google might decide to do away with PPC for example. Should we stop using PPC because Google MIGHT do away with in a year?

          Not shrewd that, not shrewd at all.
          Hi Paxton

          A lot of people could use your experience, wisdom and knowledge since Pete seems totally overwhelmed. You might be better posting there than here.

          The problem isn't that people don't like it, they cant get it to work. Its obviously working well for you...and as far as I can see, you're the only one whose had significant profit results with it...and yet you're absent from the forum? Might be an idea to post there....thats all I'm saying.

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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
            One Thousand People signed up for the $1 trial - and in the BF forums there *are* posts from people who are having trouble getting it going. Do you know the percentage?? I don't know actual numbers, but I can tell you that it has to be a small percentage because I certainly have NOT been dealing with hundreds (or even one hundred!) different folks having problems.

            So let's put things in perspective - a small percentage of people have problems, reply to a thread like this (no offense to the OP actually), and all of a sudden their opinions start to take on some mass consensus? Ridiculous... and the fact is, in THIS thread, you will likely here more negative reviews than positive, because misery loves company, that's just how it goes.

            But back to BF... I keep reading references to spam, spamming the search engines, etc. Why does this keep coming up? You can spam the search engines with or WITHOUT some software. Brute Force is not to blame if you decide to create crap content and abuse the methods. Sure it's much easier to blame a software than it is to point the finger at the operator. Crazy!


            @Danielle - I completely agree that the way in which people express their opinions (which is all fine and fair) is extremely distasteful here.

            @SpudDS - of course it's fair game to post honest reviews of a product, but here at WF, we can at minimum expect some maturity and focus when discussing these things. It's not the fact that negative opinions exist - it's just quite surprising how people go about expressing those opinions. And posts like this are meant to "stand up for" Pete because you think it takes balls to stand up for yourself? That's a ridiculous statement. I post this because I stand behind Peter Drew and his software, purely because his methods and software have helped me tremendously. So of course I will post to try and add balance to the nay-sayers here. This forum is for product reviews so one posting positive comments shouldn't be viewed as anything other than a positive display on the product. Not skewed to be some kiss-ass post to the creator.

            Here's my take on the Brute Force software, for what it's worth:

            - I can quickly create accounts for social bookmarking, article directories and RSS aggregator sites. Not every site works 100% every time, but many do and I have no complaints since it has saved me boat loads of time

            - I can easily submit my RSS feeds to many major RSS feed aggregators, don't have a problem running this, and saves me boat loads of time (I won't even get into the benefits of RSS in this post)

            - I can easily submit my articles to several article directories and receive an 80% success rate, and it saves me *boat loads of time*

            - I can create sites on Tripod, Geocities, Blogger and Wordpress that all automatically add linking to eachother and my main site. Does this work 100% all of the time? Nope there are glitches, and a lot of them happen when the sites themselves have issues. Do I care? Nope! Because with even 50% of the total Brute Force modules working at 100% capacity, I have gained so many backlinks and my site is now ranking for my major keywords.

            - I can easily submit my niche video to all the sites that Heyspread sends to, with my main site url automatically put in the beginning of the video description. So simple.

            And that's *just* Brute Force software. By being a member, I also get to use what's called the Feeder script. Which ... hmm how can I put it? Is an essential tool to ranking for my keywords!!

            So definitely, read all of these reviews and make an educated decision. But remember that when there are 10 people saying something is not worth it, there are hundreds quietly reaping the benefits behind the scenes.

            Karen
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            • Profile picture of the author maryjane123
              Originally Posted by Karen Newton View Post

              One Thousand People signed up for the $1 trial - and in the BF forums there *are* posts from people who are having trouble getting it going.


              Karen
              karen;

              can you tell us how long after you started working with the BF software did you start making money? i like the trial offer but the $137 a month has me concerned since i might have a few problems getting going. i don't mind paying the monthly fee if i'm making a profit. just want to know the time frame i'd be working with. thanks for your advice.

              kind regards.
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
            Originally Posted by bigjock View Post

            Hi Paxton

            A lot of people could use your experience, wisdom and knowledge since Pete seems totally overwhelmed. You might be better posting there than here.

            The problem isn't that people don't like it, they cant get it to work. Its obviously working well for you...and as far as I can see, you're the only one whose had significant profit results with it...and yet you're absent from the forum? Might be an idea to post there....thats all I'm saying.

            BigJock
            It's ridiculous to assume that Paxton is absent from the BF forum lol. Oh well, see what kind of assumptions are made?

            And Big Jock ... as far as you can see, Paxton is the ONLY ONE having significant profit results? With what information are you basing that opinion on, if I may ask? Do you think that perhaps that statement is a little off the wall? Out of 1000 people (plus the beta testers) in BF, have you surveyed each and come to the conclusion that Paxton is the only successful one? If you have, I will pack up my bags now and forever disappear into the sunset.... NOT.

            Karen
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            • Profile picture of the author Paxton
              It's true - you can't please all the people all the time.

              Seems though we are now at the stage where we can't please anyone, anytime.

              Far from being absent from the BF forum, I post anytime I can make a contribution to what's being discussed. Anytime I feel I have something of value to add to what's being discussed, I post.

              I've got my own way of doing things and I actually ENJOY testing how stuff works and new ways to get things done. A lot of this I've shared on the BF forum.

              Yes, I have enjoyed some success using the software. Am I the only one getting good results ? I sincerely doubt that.

              In the run up to the launch I posted many times about how I was re-jigging my sites to take best advantage of the things Brute Force does. I've optimized my websites to squeeze every single last drop I can out of the things BF can do. Stands to reason I should be seeing some benefits from what was a VERY big effort.

              I've offered to help people with the APPLICATION of the software. Show them some of the stuff I use and some of the ways I use to get the best possible results.

              How that's being absent from the forum ???
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            • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
              Originally Posted by Karen Newton View Post

              It's ridiculous to assume that Paxton is absent from the BF forum lol. Oh well, see what kind of assumptions are made?

              And Big Jock ... as far as you can see, Paxton is the ONLY ONE having significant profit results? With what information are you basing that opinion on, if I may ask? Do you think that perhaps that statement is a little off the wall? Out of 1000 people (plus the beta testers) in BF, have you surveyed each and come to the conclusion that Paxton is the only successful one? If you have, I will pack up my bags now and forever disappear into the sunset.... NOT.

              Karen
              Hi Karen

              What I'm saying isn't meant as a personal slight to anyone so I apologise if Ive caused offence. I dint say success, I said "substantial profit results"

              Second..."as far as I can see" means exactly that. Ive read every post and haven't seen a new post from Paxton IN THE TRAIL MEMBERS forum since the launch.

              Also, as far as I can see...he IS the only person making a killing. Why? Because no one else has posted to say "Im now making an extra $xxxx/day thanks to BF." Does that mean that no one else is making money? Ofcourse not! Thats Absurd. But it appears that way from the forum. That appearance is being compounded by the many threads of lack of stickiness of the sites.

              Paxton is the most visible success story. If might be a great idea to get the beta testers to help out with some of the problems that newer members are having. I spent over 5 hours the other night talking a new member through the software and he was estatic when he reached page one of google. I know this works.

              Look....I like Pete...and I'm willing to spend the money to give him a chance to get it right...Im not canceling.

              If theres a thread that says "Ive made XXXXX using BF, then I havent seen it. Yes, there are threads saying...."I got ranked well"...but a few of those are followed by "the rankings have dissappeared quickly".

              So there are several issues:

              • Its buggy and needs to be refined. This is completely understandable with such a complex piece of kit and I expected it. IMO, this is a non issue and the software will be made foolproof over time.
              • There are stickiness issues with the sites it creates.
              • People are obviously unhappy with the support...but I have ZERO complaints in this area...I have found support to be great.
              • Paxton did indeed post a lot in the run up to the launch. I'm talking about post launch participation....its been scant...help us all out.

              Paxton, if you feel that you are at the stage where you cant please anyone, anytime...alarm bells should be ringing that all is not well. People arent posting here trying to destroy your work..they have genuine concerns, they want BF to succeed becuase they can see its potential and I think you should listen to them and address their concerns rather than getting defensive.

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              • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
                Why should successful people help new people?

                Surely the more successful people wouldn't want the membership full ?

                After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Granted, there are some like Andrew [Paxton] and Karen who seem to be going overboard with help (imo) but they are the exceptions. Please note this is a business after all

                Darren
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                • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
                  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                  Why should successful people help new people.

                  Surely the more successful people dont want the membership full ?

                  After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Yeah same people like Andrew [Paxton] are the exception, imo he has gone overboard helping people, this is a business after all

                  Darren
                  This is an excellent point.
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                • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
                  @BigJock , appreciate your detailed response and now have a better understanding on your view of things.

                  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                  Why should successful people help new people.

                  Surely the more successful people dont want the membership full ?

                  After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Yeah same people like Andrew [Paxton] are the exception, imo he has gone overboard helping people, this is a business after all

                  Darren
                  Darren, that's quite a selfish point of view you got there. Which you are entitled to of course. It's great that there are others who don't share your opinion though, or "new people" wouldn't get very far would they?

                  Competition is going to exist no matter what. But within a membership, such like BF, if those who ARE successful reach out to help others within the membership, then are they not contributing to the creation of a tight knit group of people who can help *eachother* going forward?

                  Why do I care if the spots in BF fill up, if I already have my spot secured? Surely you realize the competition exists outside of BF just as much as within.

                  Karen
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                • Profile picture of the author Paxton
                  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                  Why should successful people help new people.

                  Surely the more successful people dont want the membership full ?

                  After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Yeah same people like Andrew [Paxton] are the exception, imo he has gone overboard helping people, this is a business after all

                  Darren
                  Darren, probably a dumb thing to say, but I really don't have any issues with potential competition. I said all along I would try and give as much help as possible, wherever possible and I intend to stick by that.

                  I would like nothing better than to see the membership full to the rafters. Believe me.

                  Yes, it's a business, but I like to keep sight of the human element - not just the numbers.


                  Originally Posted by bigjock View Post

                  Hi Karen

                  What I'm saying isn't meant as a personal slight to anyone so I apologise if Ive caused offence. I dint say success, I said "substantial profit results"

                  Second..."as far as I can see" means exactly that. Ive read every post and haven't seen a new post from Paxton IN THE TRAIL MEMBERS forum since the launch.

                  Also, as far as I can see...he IS the only person making a killing. Why? Because no one else has posted to say "Im now making an extra /day thanks to BF." Does that mean that no one else is making money? Ofcourse not! Thats Absurd. But it appears that way from the forum. That appearance is being compounded by the many threads of lack of stickiness of the sites.

                  Paxton is the most visible success story. If might be a great idea to get the beta testers to help out with some of the problems that newer members are having. I spent over 5 hours the other night talking a new member through the software and he was estatic when he reached page one of google. I know this works.

                  Look....I like Pete...and I'm willing to spend the money to give him a chance to get it right...Im not canceling.

                  If theres a thread that says "Ive made XXXXX using BF, then I havent seen it. Yes, there are threads saying...."I got ranked well"...but a few of those are followed by "the rankings have dissappeared quickly".

                  So there are several issues:

                  • Its buggy and needs to be refined. This is completely understandable with such a complex piece of kit and I expected it. IMO, this is a non issue and the software will be made foolproof over time.
                  • There are stickiness issues with the sites it creates.
                  • People are obviously unhappy with the support...but I have ZERO complaints in this area...I have found support to be great.
                  • Paxton did indeed post a lot in the run up to the launch. I'm talking about post launch participation....its been scant...help us all out.

                  Paxton, if you feel that you are at the stage where you cant please anyone, anytime...alarm bells should be ringing that all is not well. People arent posting here trying to destroy your work..they have genuine concerns, they want BF to succeed becuase they can see its potential and I think you should listen to them and address their concerns rather than getting defensive.

                  Bigjock
                  Bigjock (there's a name you don't want to meet in a dark alley)

                  I'll try to clear a few things up - to the best of my abilities.

                  I'm not trying to get defensive, for the simple reason I don't feel I have to defend anything anyhow.

                  All the participation I've had at the forum was trying to share as much as possible so people could get results from using BF. Not saying that my way is the only way to use the software - not at all. But I know my way works for me and my expectations.

                  Now, I'm not talking about technical issues here. I'm not a techie and I wouldn't know an .exe from a .dll if they walked though the door and kicked me in the nuts. Me attempting to solve any tech issues would be way off line and in any case, the support team are the best qualified to give support.

                  From the day the forum was setup though, I've been saying things like "keep your sources fresh, keep you feeds updated, keep you content updated".

                  I've been saying that results come and go, then stabilize when they mature a bit.

                  I've been saying how my sites are setup, how I categorize the feeds.

                  You've probably seen the thread I started where I offered to help people out in using the software. 10 members of this little group initially. That's expanded, and takes up a LOT of my time, but I said I'd do it and I intend to stick by that.

                  I don't just post on the forum (or any other forum for that matter) just to be seen. When I have a constructive addition to make to the topic under discussion, I'll post.

                  Yes, my post rate might have dropped a little since launch. That has to do with what's being discussed on the forum and it's mostly stuff of a technical nature - I don't do technical. I don't want to start posting about stuff I'm not sure about.

                  Hope this help to clarify things a bit
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                  • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
                    Originally Posted by Karen Newton View Post

                    Darren, that's quite a selfish point of view you got there. Which you are entitled to of course. It's great that there are others who don't share your opinion though, or "new people" wouldn't get very far would they?

                    Competition is going to exist no matter what. But within a membership, such like BF, if those who ARE successful reach out to help others within the membership, then are they not contributing to the creation of a tight knit group of people who can help *eachother* going forward?

                    Why do I care if the spots in BF fill up, if I already have my spot secured? Surely you realize the competition exists outside of BF just as much as within.

                    Karen
                    Knew this would happen,

                    I never said it was MY point of view, i'm just saying it could be a reason why people aren't jumping in to defend Pete and Brute Force. I do believe I was the first (but I have played a part in the marketing of the product, video, graphics and sales page design) so have somewhat of a vested interest.

                    If you notice in the BF forum, I have been offering my help in various places, just felt that my point needed airing.

                    Darren
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                    • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
                      Okay Darren.. I might have been a little um.. heated up when I encountered your response. It did come across as your opinion to me, but I'm glad that you've clarified that it isn't necessarily your opinion.

                      I'm going to back off for a bit because I don't want to start replying haphazardly and causing a ruckus...

                      Karen

                      Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                      Knew this would happen,

                      I never said it was MY point of view, i'm just saying it could be a reason why people aren't jumping in to defend Pete and Brute Force. I do believe I was the first (but I have played a part in the marketing of the product, video, graphics and sales page design) so have somewhat of a vested interest.

                      If you notice in the BF forum, I have been offering my help in various places, just felt that my point needed airing.

                      Darren
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                • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
                  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie View Post

                  Why should successful people help new people?

                  Surely the more successful people wouldn't want the membership full ?

                  After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Granted, there are some like Andrew [Paxton] and Karen who seem to be going overboard with help (imo) but they are the exceptions. Please note this is a business after all

                  Darren

                  I find it really hard to believe a Warrior actually wrote this!

                  Dixie
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  • Profile picture of the author peteinoz
    Hey guys

    I'll post this message and will not reply further..

    Only to say,, I create tools that work very successfully for me and pass them on to other people to use to get the same success as I do..

    Im not going to defend myself against those posts above it will only give not needed credance to them

    LOTS of people use my tools and make a LOT of money using them as I do..

    a good craftsman never blames his tools is all I say

    one thing about content.. BF does not create content. content is supplied by user, doesnt get simpler than that.

    Google cannot change its algo to harm BF. we use 65 social sites. If they wipe these sites.. we'll use a different 65. we are not that we are nearly big enough to make any impact on the Big G, you guys are complimenting us way to much..

    Use it and you will get fantastic results.. I show you how to do it without the software. free.. though the software does it 200 times faster..

    Feel free to use it or not..

    I will not post any further in this thread.

    To Your success with or without BF!!

    Cheers

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    • Profile picture of the author SeoNut
      I purchased the trial... tested the water.... and won big time....
      My site ranked 13 broad phrase in 30 minutes.....
      My site was brand new and had 13 backlinks in that 30 minutes....
      My site is 3 weeks old on friday 15th jan 2010 and still gaining ground....

      Here are the stats...

      new site 3 weeks ago friday
      1 post on that wordpres blog
      Broad phrase comp....3,120,000
      Exact phrase comp....333,000
      Allintitle.....3795
      Allinurl.......965

      I would consider this a medium competition... but between Broad and exact I have 9 links on the first page spread over 4 keywords and 2 variations....

      Until you try it don't kick Pete in the backside.... sure we have the freedom of speech but the real fact of the matter is try it first then you can speak.... don't try it and you should not say anthing.... there is a big difference between knowledge and hearsay.....GO PETE
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I've been thinking long and hard about getting this... but the 'stickiness' issue was one of the initial questions that ran across my mind.

    Now it seems like this was a legit concern??

    I have some established sites with some pretty good rankings (#2, #3), and I'd like to bump them up to #1. But I don't want to hit #1 for a few days, then drop back several pages . The other sites I'd like to try this with are new, so it doesn't worry me as much.

    So, is this 'stickiness' issue the rule, or the exception?
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    • Profile picture of the author flnz400
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I've been thinking long and hard about getting this... but the 'stickiness' issue was one of the initial questions that ran across my mind.

      Now it seems like this was a legit concern??

      I have some established sites with some pretty good rankings (#2, #3), and I'd like to bump them up to #1. But I don't want to hit #1 for a few days, then drop back several pages . The other sites I'd like to try this with are new, so it doesn't worry me as much.

      So, is this 'stickiness' issue the rule, or the exception?
      As you can see from the direction of this thread (didn't see the mud coming one bit), I don't think this is the place to get your answers that qualify whether or not you should spend 100 bucks/mo. On topic feedback is welcomed of course.
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      • Profile picture of the author Coach Cheese
        I signed up, and here are my reasons. Someone check my thinking here:

        1. I WANT to rank for a whole bunch of longer tail keywords, even if for only for awhile, because the small, powerful list it will build in my niche.

        This is especially powerful for small businesses in their local marketer, or a specialty niche where the players don't do the SEO game.

        2. The sites that are being built are on major 3rd party properties, on which we are encouraged to build by hand, even if using the same content. (I keep hearing from folks who really test this stuff that duplicate content does not hurt, and that unrevised PLR content ranks).

        So this software merely automates what we pay outsourcers to do by hand. If Google doesn't like that, they can penalize all the sites with that footprint. I seriously wonder if they will, however, since article marketing is automated, for instance, through services like SubmitYourArticle, and yet all those article directories are not penalized.

        If duplicate content really does not rank as high, then the duplicate 3rd party sites will simply not rank as high. No special penalty needed?

        3. Will a footprint from this software hurt our main money sites? It seems to me that the 3rd party sites themselves could be penalized, but that the main site will not be hurt. Otherwise someone could use this software to take out their competition.

        4. The content quality is determined by the user input. This is not scraped or spam content, as long as it is good stuff. It's the same as blasting out through mass article submission or a press release publishing in multiple venues.

        So I plan to test this software to see if it works for my own market. I personally know Melissa Moody, though, and it is working for her. She used to use one of my outsourcers and no longer needs one.

        Sarah
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    Originally Posted by flnz400 View Post

    Hey guys, just curious if anyone is having any major success?

    I only ask because it's not compatible right now with my V64 machines, and there isn't anything substantial being reported over at the forum (a couple results; mostly low comp.)....

    Basically, I have to stay on at 100/mo without any successful runs to wait for the update, so I'd really appreciate any feedback.

    I will say, the software seems to have a lot of potential, but most of what I've found is inexperienced users adjusting to the learning curve and all functions are a no go on my trial due to incompatibility.

    Thanks for any feedback!


    I think too many people misunderstand the purpose of tools like this. I'm not saying you necessarily but just in case, for whoever may be mistaken, tools like this just help automate a process that people do by hand.

    So asking if it works in the sense of the software functioning and asking if it works in that people are having success making money and getting good rankings are two different things.

    You still have to pick the right keywords, the right niche, post content that will keep people's attention so that they click on your links, etc. So that is on the user.

    As far as working in getting rankings it does work if you pick the right keywords because it automates what people should be doing manually anyway. It just really speeds up the process.

    Finally, as far as functioning, in my case I could not get it to work and have given up. I was disappointed because I had been waiting for it a long time and avoided SEnuke or whatever else because I wanted to be loyal. Unfortunately I had to give up and I've found my alternative that does work.

    Some people can't get Brute Force SEO to function and others can and judging from the yay versus nay comments I have seen for a while, sorry Karen, in my experience it is not a small percentage that has problems. It's a lot of people, but maybe I'm wrong.

    There are compatibility issues with just about all software. But when it seems to be 50/50 or close, even if it's 60/40 or 70/30 (I really don't know I can only speculate based on comments I've seen from the past year or whatever) then that's a sign the software may not be high quality and is something that should probably be investigated if the creator cares enough to expand his reach and make 150% or more of what he is making now, which he can't do if the software just doesn't work.

    Someone can say the problem is on the user's end, and I know there will always be some people with problems no matter what software, but when most can get Article Post Robot to work, SEnuke to work, and many others, which also use Internet Explorer components to post and are of a similar nature but then yours does not work properly or at all for so many people then it's probably your software that's the real problem. The deciding factor is whether the seller cares enough or not or whether he is happy enough and sees no need to focus on those people who have problems regardless of what percentage it is, or not. It's his call and he decides what is better for him.

    So, there's no real need to harp on the same thing all the time. If Pete's software doesn't work for you then just don't buy it anymore and forget about it and get an alternative that does like I did or wait and see if they improve it and try again. SEnuke, for example, had issues at first but now it works great for most people, from what I read and the same might be true for Brute Force SEO. If it does work for you then that's great and you have a very valuable tool.

    It really doesn't matter too much what software you use that automates these steps as long as it functions and it's especially good if it covers blogs/webpages, social bookmarking, RSS and maybe the top 10 best article sites. If it doesn't do video just go with Heyspread. So just find another if possible.

    I like Pete enough. I haven't talked to him a real whole lot but he seems nice enough and once gave me one of his software for free to help me out in a problem with Wordpress and I will probably continue buying his reports, but not any software unless it's something I'd like to try but only on a different computer and that won't be any time soon cause I'm in a bad situation. But I'll still follow Pete because he has some good stuff to say and if I see that his software is more compatible in the future I will begin recommending it again.

    So, to end this, if you can get it to function, then of course it will work very well because the process that it automates works.

    It's just a buck so find out for yourselves.

    I'm done.
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    • Profile picture of the author drnet
      I had some issues with it and personally decided to cancel. I have been using SE nuke with great success...if it aint broke don't fix it.

      They just came out with automatic signups to 65 social sites, video sites, article sites...Ya baby.
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      • Profile picture of the author matthewd
        Originally Posted by sclark View Post

        I had some issues with it and personally decided to cancel. I have been using SE nuke with great success...if it aint broke don't fix it.

        They just came out with automatic signups to 65 social sites, video sites, article sites...Ya baby.
        Is the auto sign up already released for SEnuke?
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      • Profile picture of the author Sornie Samante
        Okay here's my 2 scents. BF is good for Product Launches Jacking or siphon jacking. We've been testing this over a couple of times to almost 200 sites and it works like magic. You have to trust me when I say "like magic" getting your site on top page of SE's for a keyword you care to target is really awesome..

        Now, if you are more on Product Launches Jacking, then this is the right tool for you.
        Try not to over complicate things.

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    • Profile picture of the author charless61
      Originally Posted by tommyp View Post


      Finally, as far as functioning, in my case I could not get it to work and have given up. I was disappointed because I had been waiting for it a long time and avoided SEnuke or whatever else because I wanted to be loyal. Unfortunately I had to give up and I've found my alternative that does work.


      I'm done.
      Tommy
      Do you mind sharing what alternatives that you are using?

      Charles
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
        Originally Posted by maryjane123 View Post

        karen;

        can you tell us how long after you started working with the BF software did you start making money? i like the trial offer but the $137 a month has me concerned since i might have a few problems getting going. i don't mind paying the monthly fee if i'm making a profit. just want to know the time frame i'd be working with. thanks for your advice.

        kind regards.
        maryjane
        Hi Maryjane
        I must have missed this earlier, looks like you asked this question couple of weeks ago. Brute Force SEO has always worked for me and I rarely run into problems running it, so keeping that in mind:
        - BF is a tool (set of tools) to promote your sites
        - if your sites aren't capturing targeted traffic that converts, you won't make any money, and it's no fault of BF right?
        - how soon you will or will not make money isn't about whether you use BF or find other ways to generate targeted traffic
        - with all that said, it's near impossible to take someone else's monthly income and compare to what you can make. Now if I give you my niches and keywords that's another story.
        And yes I am going to avoid answering your question directly because whether I make $50 or $5000 a month with using BF means nothing, because it's the combined result of what you choose to market and how well it converts that will determine if you are successful or not. BF is not going to make you successful if you have nothing to use WITH it. Meaning you have to realize what you're paying for - you are paying for automation of tasks that greatly reduce your time (ie time = money) and tasks that are proven over and over again to get sites ranking in the top searches on the major search engines. And even with all that said, you are still getting much more than that with BF membership anyhow - Feeder script, Gold Digger KW tool, DARE ability for articles, Social bookmarking account creation and automated posting, many video walkthroughs, and tons of valuable info inside the forums.



        Originally Posted by JeanetteatBeach View Post

        I bought the product one month ago - very complicated and the instructions stink. I put up with it since a "complete rewrite" was being issued. Well, it was and nothing works at all. Spent hours and couldn't even get a new account created on one of the blog services. Keep getting locked and having to exit the program. Tried to get a refund and they don't do refunds even when their system locks up and doesn't work.
        Keep away from this unless you just want to throw away your money. Plus when I canceled my forward subscription they removed my access to the forum and other aids immediately , even though I had paid for the month.
        The instructions are for the old program. Never get an email when something changes or needs to be updated - just get tons of email telling me to see the product.
        It has much promise and No delivery and no service.
        It's unfortunate that you've had bad experience with BF but it's a bit laughable to think that because a software didn't work on your PC that you'll recommend everyone to stay away from it. This is a product review thread not a product bashing thread, so it would be wise to take personal issues and deal with them personally not in the forum.

        On the other hand if you want to hire me to run BF for you let me know maybe we can strike something up

        Anyhow I'm just psyched to get the DARE ability (yay !) plus SB automation and a new ***** module are coming, gonna go kick some SE (search engine - ie Google!) butt!

        Karen
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
          Originally Posted by Karen Newton View Post


          It's unfortunate that you've had bad experience with BF but it's a bit laughable to think that because a software didn't work on your PC that you'll recommend everyone to stay away from it. This is a product review thread not a product bashing thread, so it would be wise to take personal issues and deal with them personally not in the forum.


          Anyhow I'm just psyched to get the DARE ability (yay !) plus SB automation and a new ***** module are coming, gonna go kick some SE butt!

          Karen
          That doesn't seem like product bashing to me. I would be pretty pis*ed if I just spent $137 and it didn't work whether it had to do with my PC or not and not get issued a refund...that is bad business

          It sounds like she did try to resolve matters before posting here as you had suggested but she got no support, hence her review...and if someone doesn't respond to a support ticket like this, they deserve a bad review

          Furthermore, the poster above doesn't seem to be alone. I was in the market for BF to see how it stacked up to SE Nuke and after reading all of the reviews on this forum, it seemed that most people had similiar issues

          Not trying to pick on you, Karen, but these types of reviews are good for us Warriors who do our research before buying a product...and I am glad the OP gave that review...saved me some money

          -Edited after I misread Karen's quote
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          • Profile picture of the author JeanetteatBeach
            Originally Posted by Mark-Dickenson View Post

            That doesn't seem like product bashing to me. I would be pretty pis*ed if I just spent $137 and it didn't work whether it had to do with my PC or not and not get issued a refund...that is bad business

            It sounds like she did try to resolve matters before posting here as you had suggested but she got no support, hence her review...and if someone doesn't respond to a support ticket like this, they deserve a bad review

            Furthermore, the poster above doesn't seem to be alone. I was in the market for BF to see how it stacked up to SE Nuke and after reading all of the reviews on this forum, it seemed that most people had similiar issues

            So it seems a bit unfair that your respond the way you did to this poster and then in the next sentence want to kick SE Nuke butt...that sounds like something someone affiliated with the product might say

            Not trying to pick on you, Karen, but these types of reviews are good for us Warriors who do our research before buying a product...and I am glad the OP gave that review...saved me some money
            Thank you. As we all know, most "reviews" are affiliates so it is sometimes hard to find decent information on a product before you buy it. Karen, I believe is an affliate since she has several youtube videos supporting the product. That is fine, but her bashing me is just poor taste. I am reporting my experience. She can report hers. I won't bash her - it would be nice if she did the same.
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            • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
              Originally Posted by JeanetteatBeach View Post

              Thank you. As we all know, most "reviews" are affiliates so it is sometimes hard to find decent information on a product before you buy it. Karen, I believe is an affliate since she has several youtube videos supporting the product. That is fine, but her bashing me is just poor taste. I am reporting my experience. She can report hers. I won't bash her - it would be nice if she did the same.
              Where did I bash you? I did not bash you, how unprofessional that would be.

              Also, I think I only have ONE video supporting BF and um, it's buried for sure.. I'm not an active affiliate, not because I don't believe in the product but because I have way too many other priorities right now to be an active affiliate for anything. Please do not make assumptions about people.

              I kept my response to your opinion light hearted. I used the word laughable at the situation not the person. If you happen to perceive the text incorrectly so be it, because I didn't come here to bash anyone, nor have I ever done so before.

              Karen
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
            It's alright I don't feel like I'm getting picked on, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I felt that it was more on the "bashing" side but that's my point of view just an opinion.

            Just to clarify when I said "gonna go kick some SE butt!" that meant search engine butt... not SE Nuke

            All in all I agree - before spending money on a product or service it is of great value to get feedback from our peers in unbias ways such as forums and chat etc. Just keep in mind that a few people might have replied here with bad experiences, yet hundreds are happily paying and utilizing BF. I'm not trying to push it, there's no aff link here nor am I an active affiliate - I'm just saying.. the logic speaks for itself. So while reviewing a product or service, just be sure to take everything in for what it's worth.

            Happy ranking!
            Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author ariefsyu
      Never tried it but would like to know any success stories. Long term success stories please not one day success.

      -Arief-
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    • Profile picture of the author manjit129
      I bought it, but I am still reserving judgement.
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      • Profile picture of the author ademartin
        I paid full fee, $137, to see what the hidden things are that trial members are not allowed to see. Turned out to be a clunky feeder script and a forum section where Peter Drew was hardly ever present.

        Karen, the mod, was a great help and also a member called Bill and I am very appreciative of their time and assistance.

        From the sales page... "The Incredible SEO Fight Club is without equal in the IM world. Packed to the rafters with top SEO Professionals, Traffic Experts, Niche Research Experts, Copywriters, PPC Gurus etc., as well as your fellow users of the system, many of them expert, this insanely powerful resource is the hidden secret of this sensational package.

        With these people in your corner as your "cut men", it's hard to even imagine you not succeeding wildly!"

        Look, it just didn't happen.

        The software should still be in Beta and no way is it worth $137. It does not do what it says on the tin.

        The training manuals and videos are an outdated, unprofessional joke although Karen is doing her best to improve the video situation.

        I was so disappointed after working diligently to learn this system I finally called it quits and asked for a refund. After all, it's not working as advertised.

        Peter Drew refused me a refund so I complained to Paypal and lodged a dispute. Peter Drew escalated the complaint to Paypal and they said:

        "Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User
        Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It
        does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods
        received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a
        refund."

        So, no protection from Paypal and I feel I have wasted the money on a load of junk.

        It is interesting to note that SENuke gives prospective members a free 7 Day trial and then a 30 day refund period after they have paid.

        I am halfway through a test of SENuke and will be doing a head to head comparison on them both but so far Brute Force SEO is not even in the starting blocks and a massive disappointment.

        Just my 2c which is my personal opinion.

        Ade
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        • Profile picture of the author Kuma
          Originally Posted by ademartin View Post

          I paid full fee, $137, to see what the hidden things are that trial members are not allowed to see. Turned out to be a clunky feeder script and a forum section where Peter Drew was hardly ever present.

          Karen, the mod, was a great help and also a member called Bill and I am very appreciative of their time and assistance.

          From the sales page... "The Incredible SEO Fight Club is without equal in the IM world. Packed to the rafters with top SEO Professionals, Traffic Experts, Niche Research Experts, Copywriters, PPC Gurus etc., as well as your fellow users of the system, many of them expert, this insanely powerful resource is the hidden secret of this sensational package.

          With these people in your corner as your "cut men", it's hard to even imagine you not succeeding wildly!"

          Look, it just didn't happen.

          The software should still be in Beta and no way is it worth $137. It does not do what it says on the tin.

          The training manuals and videos are an outdated, unprofessional joke although Karen is doing her best to improve the video situation.

          I was so disappointed after working diligently to learn this system I finally called it quits and asked for a refund. After all, it's not working as advertised.

          Peter Drew refused me a refund so I complained to Paypal and lodged a dispute. Peter Drew escalated the complaint to Paypal and they said:

          "Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User
          Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It
          does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods
          received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a
          refund."

          So, no protection from Paypal and I feel I have wasted the money on a load of junk.

          It is interesting to note that SENuke gives prospective members a free 7 Day trial and then a 30 day refund period after they have paid.

          I am halfway through a test of SENuke and will be doing a head to head comparison on them both but so far Brute Force SEO is not even in the starting blocks and a massive disappointment.

          Just my 2c which is my personal opinion.

          Ade
          Fully agree with that.
          I´ve been a member of BFSEO for a couple of months now and my mistake was to believe alll those promises and the hype created by Pete.
          I have nothing against the guy personally (though I strongly disagree with his attitude at times) but I don´t think BFSEO is worth paying a monthly fee. It is confusing and there is a lack of direction and systematic approach. The GUI ( no "G" deserved) is very basic and there are more exceptions than anything else.
          Things are being promised but they either don´t show up (like the Twitter module) or come too late (Social Bookmarking).
          I tested SENuke and I found this much better and systematic, more reliable and easier to apply (less exceptions and manual adjustments necessary and time wasted). Sooner or later I´ll subscribe to SENuke.
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          • Profile picture of the author magentawave
            Originally Posted by Kuma View Post

            Fully agree with that.
            I´ve been a member of BFSEO for a couple of months now and my mistake was to believe alll those promises and the hype created by Pete.
            I have nothing against the guy personally (though I strongly disagree with his attitude at times) but I don´t think BFSEO is worth paying a monthly fee. It is confusing and there is a lack of direction and systematic approach. The GUI ( no "G" deserved) is very basic and there are more exceptions than anything else.
            Things are being promised but they either don´t show up (like the Twitter module) or come too late (Social Bookmarking).
            I tested SENuke and I found this much better and systematic, more reliable and easier to apply (less exceptions and manual adjustments necessary and time wasted). Sooner or later I´ll subscribe to SENuke.
            Does anyone know the difference between Big Mikes RSS Bot and SENuke?

            Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author drnet
    Yup...Just came out today Matthew...

    They have sped up the application greatly as well
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  • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
    I have seen several reputations nearly or completely ruined, since I have been on this forum, and believe me, it was, in some cases, their fault.

    Before you all turn purple, just hold on a minute - I'm not through!

    Developing a product, takes a lot of time and effort, and sometimes a lot of money. The developer is anxious to get it finished and on the market, which is understandable. The last thing on his/her mind is "reputation", which really should be the first. They just want to get the thing out there. More often than not, there hasn't been a whole lot of testing going on. If any, it is done by a "techie".

    People become unhappy for various reasons, and start demanding refunds. Then they get on forums and start blasting the product and the developer.

    Just remember this:

    "It is much easier to get a customer, than it is to get them back."

    A long time ago, I heard someone mention "the grandma test". You may have also heard of it. Of course it doesn't have to be a grandma. It could be a relative, friend, newbie - whatever.

    Instead of being so anxious to hit the market with your product, you should first give it to someone who is totally unfamiliar with marketing or using new software. Let them download it, install it, and use it, all by themself for a couple of weeks. When they call or email you for instructions, or tells you there is something they don't understand, or says that they can't get something to work - fix it. If something needs to be added to your help file - do it. If grandma is having a problem, you can rest assured, there will be others who will have the same problem. When "grandma" reaches a point where she can use the product on her own, with no help from you, that's the time to unleash it on the public - not before.

    If more people would make sure their products really work, and their instructions are crystal clear, it would go a long way toward preserving their reputation, plus not having to refund their hard earned money to a lot of angry people.

    Granted, there are a few people out there who are habitual refund seekers, but they are usually exposed rather quickly. If everyone used my method of dealing with this kind of person, after a while, there would be no one for them to buy from. After refunding, I simple block them from my sites, and they can NEVER buy from me again.

    So there you are. If you have a grandma, put her to work. If you don't, then borrow someone else's. Just make sure that your product is the best of it's kind, and your next product will be more readily acceptable to the same people. Plus, they will sing your praises all over the web, instead of blasting you to high heaven.

    I hope no one gets upset because I expressed my opinion. It wasn't meant to cause a problem or start an argument with anyone. Just my $.02.

    Dixie
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    Dixie,

    I agree.

    Not about the refunders though, unless they are serial refunders who always buy and cancel the same day. Maybe three strikes and you're out?

    Anyway, there were beta testers but I don't know how many. But these are probably mostly people who have developed online friendships who are customers of Pete's who may have had success before and were allowed first dibs at the software for testing. I don't know but that's sort of what it looks like.

    When you beta test something you have to try and break it and do all sorts of things to see if it conks out, whether it's a video game or a software application.

    I understand what you mean about the grandma test, but this is probably more useful for clarifying the interface and the process the user should take in using the software because other people who are familiar with similar kind of software may be able to figure it out regardless. If this isn't done in order to see where people may fumble, then meticulous and clear instructions need to be given and guessed ahead of time.

    On the other hand it might be better to use people who are familiar with the type of software and what it's used for for testing and to push the software and try to "break it".

    But testing should also be done across different configurations. I don't mean people whose computer's are bogged down with spyware to the point their systems are really messed up because that's extreme and those people need to take better care of their computers. But the general user often has their OS doing some sort of quirks that the next person's doesn't and vice versa.

    If the software has only been tested on XP. It should say so. If it has only been tested on Service Pack 2 it should probably say so and so on.

    It's probably ideal to get people to test who have legit copies of Windows, non-legit (hey I'm just saying cause that's a lot of people), who have service pack 3, others have service pack 2, home, professional, X amount of RAM, IE 6, IE 7, and whatever else and combination.

    This may not be as easy as it sounds, but it could probably have been better than just selecting a relative few to test on a limited number of systems who are already making money doing this stuff with his other software or following the process laid out in his reports. You'd want people who are serious but they could apply and answer a questionnaire. People who would go through a lengthy application are most likely more serious and likely to actually use the software to test it than someone who may just ask to beta test in order to get a free copy.
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    • Profile picture of the author carik42
      I decided to give BF a look as I'm a big fan of Pete's stuff, and I have to say that so far I'm pretty disappointed.

      I totally understand that new systems take a while to get right, but after just 8 days inside the BF system it's clear to see that there are some major problems. My biggest issue is due to the fact that I installed the system on my Vista laptop, and it wasn't until after a few days that they realised there were problems with running BF on Vista PC's. But how did that happen? How can a product be thoroughly beta tested, only for the problem to become apparent once paying customers started using it??

      Fortunately, a paying member posted a temporary workaround in the forum that allowed Vista users improved functionality, but I still can't believe that these issues slipped through the net. I understand that Pete and his team are currently working on an update for Vista users, but this means that you have to pay a months subs just to see if it works. Hmm.

      So I've given Pete and the gang the benefit of the doubt for now and I've continued my membership, despite only being able to use around 10% of what it says on the tin. I'm not worried about the cost, I just want to see what is without doubt a fantastic idea, work in the way Pete suggests and help me automate my business.

      Such great promise for this product, but at the time of this post it's fallen below my expectations. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the updates, and keep you updated on any progress I make.
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  • Profile picture of the author sannyman
    In my case, I sent the link to few friends. Two of them enrolled as affiliates and in total, five took the trial. I got 5 payments of 22 cents (from 1 US$) and 2 payments of almost 31 US$ each. Now, think to the conversion rate.

    Going forward, Peter admitted that there were issues on Vista 64bit and some other fixes were required, based on different scenarios that you could use. Even so (I use WinXP) it was not affecting me and I can tell you that the software IS working and it is NOT a waist of time.

    Peter Drew gave for free the techniques used - or to be used "by hand" - so it is not necessary to have BF SEO in order to apply them. If you want to automate the procedures, you will have to consider BF SEO also...

    Now here are two thoughts from other persons that I discuss with, in regards to BF SEO:

    It is a ver nice software, i really like it but reallly cannot not afford it at this time.
    and

    have u used this software, and how r u doing?

    What r your results.

    Forum members there getting some good results with this software. Unfortunately,i could not test it because i was very much busy with my full time job.

    Anyway, will definitely try this whenever i will be in a financial situation to afford this and most importantly if i can get any spot.
    Regarding the results: well, I intend to open a different thread, after having the complete tests finished and I will personally invite Mr. Drew (Peter) to comment them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Evans
    I was really looking forward to Pete's BF software and I have to say I was totally disappointed.

    Pete made a comment about not blaming the tool, well if you load up the info and push the start button and it doesn't do what it stated it would do who are you suppose to blame

    I don't see how he expects people to pay $97 while he works the bugs out.
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  • Profile picture of the author spudzz
    Pete Drew has some good ideas, but the resulting products are usually under-developed at the initial marketing stage and don't get good for a few months afterwards. The problems are usually basic and shouldn't be there on a publicly released product.

    It's always too easy to underestimate the development time for a piece of software but marketers (and it's pretty well all of them) really must get out of the habit of starting to market before a product is at an advanced enough stage. It causes a momentum that nearly always ends in disappointment. The Product Launch Formula approach works great, but only for finished products.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanetteatBeach
    I bought the product one month ago - very complicated and the instructions stink. I put up with it since a "complete rewrite" was being issued. Well, it was and nothing works at all. Spent hours and couldn't even get a new account created on one of the blog services. Keep getting locked and having to exit the program. Tried to get a refund and they don't do refunds even when their system locks up and doesn't work.
    Keep away from this unless you just want to throw away your money. Plus when I canceled my forward subscription they removed my access to the forum and other aids immediately , even though I had paid for the month.
    The instructions are for the old program. Never get an email when something changes or needs to be updated - just get tons of email telling me to see the product.
    It has much promise and No delivery and no service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoria Gates
    I use it and like it. It is now compatable with Vista 64bit. Thats what I use.
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  • Profile picture of the author extremelyvicious
    Hello Everyone

    I must say, I really appreciate the participation in this thread, it's participation like this from users for and against the product in question,that help people make an informed buying decision.

    I've used (and am currently using) both pieces of software in my online business and both products have there good points and areas that need improvement. But for me, Brute force's linking system coupled with it's rss strategy is incredibly powerful!

    I have tested different niches with both pieces of software and have come to my own personal conclusion based on my personal test's that, brute force creates organic campaigns that rank increasingly as one niche entity over time. I have never seen software that has given me the kind of results that I've achieved using bruteforce.

    It is most unfortunate that users of the vista operating system are having so many problems, and therefore have yet to enjoy the benefits of this excellent software...but if you cannot get Brute force to work for you SE nuke is always the next best thing.

    That's my honest review

    Roger
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  • Profile picture of the author rarebiz
    I try the 7 day trial.
    Well, actually not much to try.
    The system is very unstable. I can create bookmark accounts, but cannot submit. Can't create tripod accounts, etc.
    Finally gave up and back to SENuke.
    If you success doing it manually, these tools saves your time.
    I'd stay away from Brute Force SEO until it's stable. When? :p
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  • Profile picture of the author david-forer
    Ade I hope you post back with the results from senuke
    I would be curious of the head 2 head
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    Ade: If you paid with a credit card through PayPal and not PayPal funds, you still have the chargeback option.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexei_aus
    i just got it today. in the review process
    will let you know how I go
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    • Profile picture of the author ademartin
      @david-forer Hi David. Just to let you know that I have found SENuke to be excellent. Of course there is a learning curve and a few minor issues but with good training material and owners who are willing to help out personally I am happy enough to upgrade.

      @DonDavis Hi Don, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I paid for it using Paypal funds so I can't claim a chargeback. I am sure that Peter Drew will spend my money wisely.

      Ade
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  • Profile picture of the author shafto
    I have tried SEnuke, Brute force and bookmarking demon 4..

    The only one i still use is BMD

    The problem i have is that the automation only ever partially works so you find yourself going back to sites to fix and post things. I stick with bmd, article and directory submitters and the Firefox autofill plugin
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  • Profile picture of the author webguycanada
    Some people drive Ford's
    and some people drive Chevy's.
    Some people drive BOTH!!! ;-)

    Brute Force SEO vs SENuke ...or... why not use BOTH?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    I'm using SocialBot, RSSBot, and DirectoryBot with significant results. You can buy all three for far less than one month of Brute Force SEO.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Omar
      Originally Posted by John Rogers View Post

      I'm using SocialBot, RSSBot, and DirectoryBot with significant results. You can buy all three for far less than one month of Brute Force SEO.

      John
      That is on my preffered tool shed as well.. I'd love to see some updates though
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisclements521
    I thought the sales page was pretty good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teriss
    I am not sure about all this negativity and where it is based -but I have used several of the software pieces and find they work as advertised.

    IF all this hulla-balloo is to carp about a lower price-its a package deal-you get all the software in Brute Force. Pete is always adding on more software to make it even more worth your money. Have you tried the Linking Software yet, probably not.

    Most of the programs save you time (which is money) at what hourly rate do you charge for your own services $70 -$100.00 per hour -working with clients or doing SEO services for others? Not bad -eh?

    If you put half the energy in positive work like getting clients-instead of the negativity herein - I am sure you would make your money 10 times over the cost.

    I tried it myself and the software works fine, and if you read the instructions-you have to CANCEL the re-occurring charge in Paypal yourself after you pay the buck. Come on people -reading is fun!

    The one thing you do get with Pete-is a guy who is working harder-putting in more software to make you money...he always is adding on to the value...not many -if any IM'kers....do that today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    Software either works or it doesn't. It either fulfills the promise or it doesn't. If the software doesn't load, keeps giving you error message, I don't think it is unfair to say that the product does not work (on my computer). Can I get a refund? The help desk ignores the request for months? Statement of facts only - Not bashing

    Promote the best Clickbank Programs with just one link.
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  • Profile picture of the author gavin6
    It's got some good potential but it's not worth it for me at the moment because you can only post one link per profile when that changes to 4 links and more sites then it may be worth it until then I'm going to keep using my outsourcers to create accounts and links manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Boda Media
    I have been playing with it for a while now.. and I am liking it... just start it and let er rip...

    I have used LLH with great results... so it was a no brainer for me..
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  • Profile picture of the author kaos
    Hi everyone
    I started in Brute Force about a year ago and used it very little but kept reading the forum and the reports on the results that were reported. Last june I started using it about 1 time per week and started seeing some ranking movement for some keywords.

    Around September I started using it 1 and 2 times per week for a Keyword with a broad match of 31,700,000. Nothing happened for that KW but I did get 55 other KW's ranked on page one. Still I was not happy since I could not get the KW I wanted ranked anywhere.

    The in December it just popped into the 144 position and has stayed there. I have not done much and trying to get it to in the last 30 days.

    Brute Force is now EVO and is just the next set in upgrading the software. I learned how to use the software when it was BF which made the EVO learning curve shorter.

    There is a learning curve and I don't think 7 days will show you much of anything unless you can spend the entire time period just learning and using the program.

    I tried SENuke with the same frustration and lack of results yet people swear by it. You just have to commit yourself to learning, using and paying for it. It is not cheap but then it does alot more then a single piece of software. It is a package of software.

    I would recommend it to people but with the cautions noted above.

    Doug
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