The Best Spinner or Magic Article Rewriter?

by regska
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Hi Warriors,

I'm about to purchase an article spinning tool and I need some advice w/c is better before I purchase one of them? The Best Spinner or Magic Article Rewriter? And one more thing, for those who have experience using one of the tools, when you spin articles, does it really get accepted by ezine articles and other article directories? Because I'm kinda worried as it might get declined due to duplicate content. What would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness when you spin articles?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
#article #magic #rewriter #spinner
  • Profile picture of the author ADD Guy
    I use the best spinner. I took that one over all the others I reviewed because you can pick out the best replacement words and don't have to rely on the generic synonyms that some spinners make you use.
    Be careful when submitting Ezine... I just read Ledger's caution on that.
    Duplicate content - People go either way on the issue. If you own the article and wrote it yourself, then you can spin as little or much as you like. If it is PLR, spin it well and do a few added sentences & sentence rewrites.
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    • Profile picture of the author regska
      Originally Posted by ADD Guy View Post

      I use the best spinner. I took that one over all the others I reviewed because you can pick out the best replacement words and don't have to rely on the generic synonyms that some spinners make you use.
      Be careful when submitting Ezine... I just read Ledger's caution on that.
      Duplicate content - People go either way on the issue. If you own the article and wrote it yourself, then you can spin as little or much as you like. If it is PLR, spin it well and do a few added sentences & sentence rewrites.
      Thanks for the advice. I've watched the video and I'm getting more interested with The Best Spinner. I noticed the unique percentage on the right top part of the video, what would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness to make sure that it was really spun?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikedb
    I use the Best Spinner.
    I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

    Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

    It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

    Regards,

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    • Profile picture of the author regska
      Originally Posted by Mikedb View Post

      I use the Best Spinner.
      I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

      Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

      It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

      Regards,

      Mike
      Nice! I'm really looking forward to explode my article marketing activity. thanks for the advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kirpo
      Originally Posted by Mikedb View Post

      I use the Best Spinner.
      I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

      Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

      It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

      Regards,

      Mike

      Hey Mike,

      How you doin.

      I too have Best Spinner but currently I'm spinning to one rewrite only so I haven't used the multiple article spin option.

      So, when you say "I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!" what exactly do you do??

      Cheers mate,
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
        Originally Posted by Kirpo View Post

        Hey Mike,

        How you doin.

        I too have Best Spinner but currently I'm spinning to one rewrite only so I haven't used the multiple article spin option.

        So, when you say "I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!" what exactly do you do??

        Cheers mate,
        Peter
        Hey Peter,

        He has saved his most used synomyns and auto fill's then using TBS!

        After you have spun around 10 articles or more and save the synomyns using this function then you will find you get auto unique articles (however make sure you choose the synoymns wisely and check after).

        Works better than content boss but you do need to check them quickly after unless you don't care about the readability!

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        • Originally Posted by Mark Blaze View Post

          Hey Peter,

          He has saved his most used synomyns and auto fill's then using TBS!
          or he's pushed "replace everybody's favourites"
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
            Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

            or he's pushed "replace everybody's favourites"
            Yep!

            You can use that function too but that generally does produce really bad articles (especially the more unique you get).

            The function i was talking about is called 'manage my favourites' and then also 'replace my favourites'. Now granted when you first start using this it won't make much difference but seeing as we all generally keep the same writing style and use the same phrases, expressions and word's over and over when it comes to replacing them for alternatives that still make sense it works a treat

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    • Profile picture of the author Dhira
      Originally Posted by Mikedb View Post

      I use the Best Spinner.
      I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

      Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

      It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

      Regards,

      Mike
      What button do you push? Everyone's faves? Or replace synonyms?
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Between Magic Article Rewriter and The Best Spinner, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use that does NOT speak perfect English and has slow internet access?

        Thanks
        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author SageSound
          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          Between Magic Article Rewriter and The Best Spinner, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use that does NOT speak perfect English and has slow internet access?

          Thanks
          Steve
          Before you ask which tool is best for non-native speakers, you might want to ask how many have even had success using non-native speakers to do this kind of work. Based on feedback I've heard from numerous people, the tool is irrelevant if they can't tell the difference between various synonyms and idioms -- their choices will appear random, resulting in frequent gibberish to native speakers.

          People who are not native speakers of a language have a difficult time with nuances between various synonyms, especially idiomatic uses of them.

          There are also national and cultural variations of idioms and some synonyms.

          For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

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          • Profile picture of the author magentawave
            Yes I totally understand that but I read a couple testimonials on Legers TBS site from people that said English wasn't their first language and they said it worked great for them. So I wonder how that differs with using MAR??

            Steve



            Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

            Before you ask which tool is best for non-native speakers, you might want to ask how many have even had success using non-native speakers to do this kind of work. Based on feedback I've heard from numerous people, the tool is irrelevant if they can't tell the difference between various synonyms and idioms -- their choices will appear random, resulting in frequent gibberish to native speakers.

            People who are not native speakers of a language have a difficult time with nuances between various synonyms, especially idiomatic uses of them.

            There are also national and cultural variations of idioms and some synonyms.

            For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

            -David
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            • Profile picture of the author SageSound
              Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

              Yes I totally understand that but I read a couple testimonials on Legers TBS site from people that said English wasn't their first language and they said it worked great for them. So I wonder how that differs with using MAR??

              Steve
              I don't think you DO understand.

              A blind man would have few difficulties driving a car on the Bonneville salt flats. You want to take his word for it that the car is safe for a blind person to drive in downtown Manhattan or Boston?

              The problem is not how easy the tool is to use!

              If you cannot distinguish the difference between various synonyms, you might THINK it "worked great", but you really don't know how intelligible your choices are for native speakers.

              What you want is not the testimony of a foreign speaker, but the testimony of native English speakers who've read the text created by the foreign speaker.

              -David
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          • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
            Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

            For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

            -David
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            • Profile picture of the author magentawave
              Ah no, no, no I think its yooooou that does not understand. The "problem" (as you refer to it) IS how easy a spinner is to use...and of course how effectively it does a decent job spinning an article. If you have to spend a lot of time cleaning up an article after you spun it then that is NOT an easy to use spinner and I'm not interested in it. I use a good spinner (MAR) to rewrite articles and produce hundreds of variations of those articles and then I spam the beejeesus out of 3rd tier article directories for the backlinks using MAS. So if my VA in the Philippines makes a few mistakes then its not going to be the end of the world. Get it? And that is also why I asked about how easy TBS was to use. I bought it yesterday and will be putting it to the test on Thursday.

              Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

              I don't think you DO understand.

              A blind man would have few difficulties driving a car on the Bonneville salt flats. You want to take his word for it that the car is safe for a blind person to drive in downtown Manhattan or Boston?

              The problem is not how easy the tool is to use!

              If you cannot distinguish the difference between various synonyms, you might THINK it "worked great", but you really don't know how intelligible your choices are for native speakers.

              What you want is not the testimony of a foreign speaker, but the testimony of native English speakers who've read the text created by the foreign speaker.

              -David
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              Why do you use Magic Submitter when you already have Magic Article Submitter? Just asking because Alexandr said that MS would not replace MAS but he didn't explain the differences between the two as far as submitting to article directories. It looked like MS submitted to a lot less article directories though.

              And since you use both TBS and MAR, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use?

              Originally Posted by JamestheJust on Elance View Post

              Mass articles. I write about 5k -20k words a day between my freelancing on Elance and building my own sites/blogging at The Average Genius dot Net...

              After rewriting/spinning a pack of 160 articles for clients: I'm done typing, so: it all depends on work load.

              I love both products, btw, have both products, recommend that if you do a lot of traveling you might want the MAR vs. TBS for the internet connection, but TBS is my fave between the two.

              Krulik's a genius, for sure: his products work as they claim.

              I didn't read it here, but one thing that I do love about MAR (not sure if TBS has it?) is that MAR allows you to spin articles together, so if you have multiple copies of an article (like for a UAW run), then you can spin/weave them together for the best uniqueness.

              The other thing I love about MAR is the Magic Button...gotta have that...for mass submissions to blog networks or directories, I use Magic Submitter and Magic Article Submitter to get the most play out of one article.

              More backlinks, more networks to submit to, more pre-sales to my aff products...works very well.

              So, in answer to the question if it's "necessary," it all depends on your marketing strategy and workload. For me: oh, yes: indispensable.
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              • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
                Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                Why do you use Magic Submitter when you already have Magic Article Submitter? Just asking because Alexandr said that MS would not replace MAS but he didn't explain the differences between the two as far as submitting to article directories. It looked like MS submitted to a lot less article directories though.

                And since you use both TBS and MAR, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use?
                Wow. I'm seriously late in answering but I will anyway: I use Magic Submitter because it's got more functionality that MAS. MAS only submits to Article Dashboard directories. Magic Submitter submits to anything, literally anything.

                You can program it to submit to a website, say a forum running phpBB or SMF or whatever - by programming it to do so (it's not hard). It comes loaded with web 2.0 sites, the top article directories, video, RSS, social bookmarks, press release sites, forums...

                So the two are much different in scope, Magic Submitter is really all you would need for your off page SEO (plus a spinner).

                Re: a VA in the P.I. - I'd say MAR because I have no idea how well the internet connection is in the P.I. Some VA's only have access to the internet during certain hours of the day, since they use it at work or school, etc. It's not like here in America where everyone has a connection.

                MAR is stored locally, on the hard drive, so no need to worry (although now the recent release of TBS does have a local thesaurus feature - so that might be a moot point).
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    • Profile picture of the author Mikedb
      Originally Posted by ogleyd5 View Post

      Hi

      I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
      Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
      I agree to some extend.
      Sure original content is the best, but do you have the time to do that?
      This is for getting mass backlinks and mass sites, so no time to write unique articles.

      For my best pages/sites I outsource that.
      I just give them the file with keywords they should use to get the best SEO optimized content.

      Regards,

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    • Profile picture of the author regska
      Originally Posted by ogleyd5 View Post

      Hi

      I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
      Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
      I definitely understand that nothing beats the original. But if you can modify the original article that you made, and you got almost the same quality result, then why not. And also, if people sees that you have lots of articles submitted in an article directory, they will see you as an expert. I saw one guy in ezine articles that has 12,000 plus articles, and I'm sure he's enjoying the backlinks that he have right now, based on the total article views of 15 million+ that I've seen, so you can't say that those are not quality. i know quality beats quantity, but quality and quantity beats quality alone.
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    • Profile picture of the author infohog
      I need to agree with the majority of people here - I purchased the Best Spinner and find it really easy to use.

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    • Profile picture of the author XRay
      Originally Posted by ogleyd5 View Post

      Hi

      I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
      Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
      I felt the same way until I took the 7 day trial for the Best Spinner. For a guy who couldn't stand spinners, I'm very pleased with the quality of the articles I'm able to crank out with it. I can easily turn 1 article into 12 or more spun articles that are 34% unique and I can create rewrites that are at least 70% unique. It took me a little time to get used to it, but now it takes me approx. 15-20 minutes per article.

      What I've been doing is taking my most-viewed articles from EZA & Articlesbase, rewriting them using the Best Spinner and submitting them to other article directories as well as the Link Racer network for backlinks to the articles on EZA & Articlesbase.
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          Originally Posted by remeedella View Post

          I do not understand though. Why not just take the article, change a few synonyms, have many paragraphs spread apart from each other (at least 5) and for each spin it changes synonyms and takes 1 unique paragraph and switches it with another and then the software submits it to a directory. Then takes the original article, does the same thing with the next submission except changes the title and moves a different spun paragraph.

          Is this not genius? Does this exist and also submit to all the directories in 1 package??????????????????
          WHERE DO I FIND THIS
          I believe you're looking for JetSubmitter. It incorporates JetSpinner, which {is|was|still might be} free. Just go to Free Article Spinning and Unique Article Submitter - Jetsubmitter (no aff link)

          Here, I just checked it out and it's a 30 day free trial w these features:

          What You're Getting:
          • Submission to 473+ Article Directories
          • Article Spinning software
          • Automatic Account Creation at Directories
          • Unique Article Variation Submission
          • Post Scheduling and Perday limiting
          • MASSIVE Results From your Efforts


          Originally Posted by regska View Post

          Hi Warriors,

          I'm about to purchase an article spinning tool and I need some advice w/c is better before I purchase one of them? The Best Spinner or Magic Article Rewriter? And one more thing, for those who have experience using one of the tools, when you spin articles, does it really get accepted by ezine articles and other article directories? Because I'm kinda worried as it might get declined due to duplicate content. What would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness when you spin articles?

          Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
          Can anyone tell me why something FREE, like the following, isn't just as good?

          Tutorials / Content Spinner {Synonymizer} / Products / SeoDevGroup

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  • Profile picture of the author specopkirbs
    ive used both and to be honest nothing compares to manually rewriting however my suggestion would be the best spinner, its simple and very fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    I think I like magic article rewriter more each day I contemplate on buying it versus the best spinner Especially since it is a one time fee versus yearly fee and I don't feel I need all the extra features.
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  • Profile picture of the author babywarrior
    I am using the bestspinner too. Love it when it is working well but i hate it when it stucks hanging on me. Ever since the upgrade last month, whenever i tried the replace everyone fav function, the thing just hang on me. Somehow it is even selective on where it wants to hang.

    For example article 1 para 1 and 2 would hang whenever i tried doing so but para 3 would work smoothly. Support was ok thou probably get back to you in 3 days thou the problem till date is not solved and i havent heard from him for a week or so.

    Other problems would be the replace all and replace with all my fav. it works at times and doesnt at time (probability of not working is higher).

    Last but not least the time for it to generate a spun article is slow so i recommend using something else so that you can scan through a few variation for readability fast.

    Above are the only few problems i do not like about TBS.

    If you are going to do it manually and ignore those function, TBS works great for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    Babywarrior,

    I once had the issues you were having. Turns out it was my internet connection giving me problems. It's because TBS requires to go online to get the all users fav synonym database to replace the text. Perhaps it was your internet connection?

    Anyways, back to topic. I'm for TBS cause of the all users synonym. Everyones favorites all compiled together. You will not get this with any other spinner (for now) and this feature alone is golden.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

    Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

    What do you think?
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    • Profile picture of the author Wechito
      TBS, or any other good article spinner, can be useful if what you want is to write a lot of articles and submit them to different directories to generate backlinks. However, if what you want is to use your articles to generate traffic, you don't need an spinner. It is much better if you write the articless yourself (or outsource the task), focusing in good and unique content. Obviously, you will not be able to write 100 articles each week, but you don't need them. Sometimes, few great, unique articles are more effective than a lot of not-so-good, not-so-unique ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
      Originally Posted by trytolearnmore View Post

      Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

      Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

      What do you think?
      Mass articles. I write about 5k -20k words a day between my freelancing on Elance and building my own sites/blogging at The Average Genius dot Net...

      After rewriting/spinning a pack of 160 articles for clients: I'm done typing, so: it all depends on work load.

      I love both products, btw, have both products, recommend that if you do a lot of traveling you might want the MAR vs. TBS for the internet connection, but TBS is my fave between the two.

      Krulik's a genius, for sure: his products work as they claim.

      I didn't read it here, but one thing that I do love about MAR (not sure if TBS has it?) is that MAR allows you to spin articles together, so if you have multiple copies of an article (like for a UAW run), then you can spin/weave them together for the best uniqueness.

      The other thing I love about MAR is the Magic Button...gotta have that...for mass submissions to blog networks or directories, I use Magic Submitter and Magic Article Submitter to get the most play out of one article.

      More backlinks, more networks to submit to, more pre-sales to my aff products...works very well.

      So, in answer to the question if it's "necessary," it all depends on your marketing strategy and workload. For me: oh, yes: indispensable.
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    • Profile picture of the author bydomino
      Originally Posted by trytolearnmore View Post

      Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

      Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

      What do you think?
      IMO you need to work on your spinner syntax. The more you use it the better you become. I now write articles and when I spin them they have almost no errors.

      I feel like the tool offers great choices that frees up my mind. I can manipulate articles very fast in this tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
        Originally Posted by bydomino View Post

        IMO you need to work on your spinner syntax. The more you use it the better you become. I now write articles and when I spin them they have almost no errors.

        I feel like the tool offers great choices that frees up my mind. I can manipulate articles very fast in this tool.
        That's exactly right and the whole point of using a good spinning tool, one human brain can only think of so many variations but if you use TBS which put's 1000's of brains together to think of variations and use the suggestions carefully yourself so they make sense then your article is going to be alot more unique.

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    • Profile picture of the author LisaSchwartz
      I love questions like these. I use best spinner, and for the past 5 years, I've tried them all. yicky, junky, garbage, OK, well, maybe are my reviews of the other dozen, or so, spinners I've used in the past. best spinner is easy to use and the nice feature which is a also a nice feature of magic article rewriter too to be fair to that software [ a close second choice for me ] is the ability to spin and "save as" in different syntax, for example if you submit to FTS, AMA and other formats than standard curly brackets , pipe syntax. So I do agree with most folks here. I only use best spinner with backlinking strategies and PLR so I can't comment on the methods to try to post good quality content to your money blogs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
      Originally Posted by remeedella View Post

      perhaps we should make a thread topic on - spinners best at not getting you banned by google ^^
      Or we could just call it how not to be a fool??

      If you think spinning your articles get's you banned from google then hire a team of below par article writers to write you garbage articles and chuck them out left right and center!

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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
      Originally Posted by remeedella View Post

      You prove a point. I've found some trash/garbage at the DP forums.
      I'm still new to this article spinning ensemble and haven't seen any linkbacks from succesful article submissions. I guess it takes time to be indexed as well, or perhaps I did something wrong?
      Your kinda crossing into the whole SEO domain now which is complicated business and very confliciting on opinions.

      Anyhow spinning mainly help's your article's get accepted into as many article directory's as possible (especially the one's that are manually reviewed)!

      You can submit the same article to multiple directory's which many people do still do but the chance of it getting deleted/not accepted in the first place is higher than if you spin an article half decently (not hard with TBS). But the backlink is still created be it the article is an exact copy or be it that it is 10% unique, 50% unique or even 100% unique you still get a backlink!

      So yep ping, bookmark and do whatever else you want to those backlinks to get them indexed

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  • Profile picture of the author lancelotfl
    I'm going to have to go with the majority here. I bought The Best Spinner and it is really a wll thought out, easy to use and powerful product. Far too many article spinning services give you something back that looks like a Martian wrote it.

    If you work at it, you can also make The Best Spinner produce unintelligible goobledygook, but it's far easier to take your time and produce quality results.

    This one is definitely a must have product if you're doing Internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaLiam
    Sorry if I missed, can you use the best spinner syntax with magic submitter?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
      Originally Posted by ShaLiam View Post

      Sorry if I missed, can you use the best spinner syntax with magic submitter?
      Yep!

      If you need different sort of brackets { ( etc then just simply paste the spun version into notepad and use the find and replace function to change them

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    • Profile picture of the author Marksv
      Originally Posted by ShaLiam View Post

      Sorry if I missed, can you use the best spinner syntax with magic submitter?
      Yup you sure can!

      I have both magic spinner and submitter.

      When I first got them, I thought they were excellent!

      About a month ago, I tried the trial of the Best Spinner, and WOW!

      I was totally impressed with how easy it was to spin. Even with their one click option for spinning, you really could get a %30+ unique article that made sense.

      Of course you should still read through and make sure that all of it flows properly, but I have to say I'm totally sold on the best spinner!

      I still use the magic submitter with my best spinner spun articles...

      Mark.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    It is standard spin syntax, so I don't see why not.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Same here. I've got both MAR (Magic Article Rewriter) and TBS. MAR is stille xcellent and good if you aren't anywhere that's got wifi or an Internet connection.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    yes you can, but you will still need to check them for readability.
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    • Profile picture of the author Highdefinition
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      yes you can, but you will still need to check them for readability.
      Is that a one-click button to 1,000 articles? or do you have to re-spin it again and again to produce the 1,000 articles?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana Forsythe
      I love TBS but it has one hold back.. it can only do 250 spins from an article. Being as I need a massive amount of articles for what I do, I end up having to do a ton of work. If TBS did 1,000 like other spinners I would be thrilled. I'm currently looking into MAR because they claim they can do that. Has anyone spun that many articles with MAR before?
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      • Profile picture of the author ATHell
        Originally Posted by Dana Forsythe View Post

        I love TBS but it has one hold back.. it can only do 250 spins from an article. Being as I need a massive amount of articles for what I do, I end up having to do a ton of work. If TBS did 1,000 like other spinners I would be thrilled. I'm currently looking into MAR because they claim they can do that. Has anyone spun that many articles with MAR before?
        Dana, I've had the same problem. Moreover, I was faced to the character limits of a resource box by UAW.
        So I've made my own php script that solves both of these problems.
        a) It gives as much spinned versions of a spyntax as I like.
        b) If needed, it only saves thoses having less characters than a given limit.
        PM me if this may help you or send an email to augusthell at online.ms.
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by Dana Forsythe View Post

        I love TBS but it has one hold back.. it can only do 250 spins from an article. Being as I need a massive amount of articles for what I do, I end up having to do a ton of work. If TBS did 1,000 like other spinners I would be thrilled. I'm currently looking into MAR because they claim they can do that. Has anyone spun that many articles with MAR before?
        Try SpinnerChief which is free and have great quality. You can get as much spins you want and can spin to even each word level.
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  • Profile picture of the author Willmarathon
    I use ArticleBot, but does the BestSpinner also distribute to article directories and if so to how many and does it have an auto-registration tool with Captcha pop-up?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Two clicks actually: apply magic > mass rewrite.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    Speaking of The Best Spinner, Jonathan Ledger is coming again with another tool, Instant Article Factory. It is worth considering as well.
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    I'm totally getting IAW on Monday.
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    • Profile picture of the author veotis
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      I'm totally getting IAW on Monday.
      IAW? Is that Instant Article Wizard you're referring to, or did you intend to type IAF?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    IAF yes. oops.
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    • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      IAF yes. oops.
      It's a must have. I already bought it and it rocks seriously. Lots of templates you can use, you can add lots of synonyms, plus you can manually edit each template when writing.
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    • Profile picture of the author homejobcreator
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      IAF yes. oops.
      What is IAF? thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    BIG Mike and Diego just finished Llama Spin. Here are the features.
    • Nested spinning with Color-coded Levels
    • A standard Thesaurus of Synonyms
    • A database of Google Keyword Suggestions
    • A shared DB of User Suggested Keywords/Phrases
    • Automatic Spintax based on "My Favorites"
    • Automatic Spintax based on "Other User's Favorites"
    • Batch Spintax of Multiple Articles based on "My Favorites" and "Other User's Favorites"
    • User Managed "My Favorites" and "My Suggestions" (you can add and delete them)
    • Publish One or Multiple Spun Versions of Article to a Folder on your Computer
    • Incorporates a text editor so you can also manually nest sentences, paragraphs, etc. as desired
    • Spin Preview Window to Verify Spinning Accuracy
    • Displays Percentage of Difference between Original and Spun Content
    • Basic Article Metrics (Word, Sentence, Paragraph Counts; Keyword Density, etc.
    • Online Help Integrated Directly into the Program (No PDF's)
    • Microsoft Compliant Automated Upgrade System
    One time payment. Free updates for life.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesTWL
      Originally Posted by John Rogers View Post

      BIG Mike and Diego just finished Llama Spin. Here are the features.
      • Nested spinning with Color-coded Levels
      • A standard Thesaurus of Synonyms
      • A database of Google Keyword Suggestions
      • A shared DB of User Suggested Keywords/Phrases
      • Automatic Spintax based on "My Favorites"
      • Automatic Spintax based on "Other User's Favorites"
      • Batch Spintax of Multiple Articles based on "My Favorites" and "Other User's Favorites"
      • User Managed "My Favorites" and "My Suggestions" (you can add and delete them)
      • Publish One or Multiple Spun Versions of Article to a Folder on your Computer
      • Incorporates a text editor so you can also manually nest sentences, paragraphs, etc. as desired
      • Spin Preview Window to Verify Spinning Accuracy
      • Displays Percentage of Difference between Original and Spun Content
      • Basic Article Metrics (Word, Sentence, Paragraph Counts; Keyword Density, etc.
      • Online Help Integrated Directly into the Program (No PDF's)
      • Microsoft Compliant Automated Upgrade System
      One time payment. Free updates for life.

      Hi John,

      Where can i get this Llama spinner? Please direct me to the buy button, thanks.

      James Tan
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    • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
      Can someone please provide some reviews on this new spinner?

      Thanks

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      Originally Posted by John Rogers View Post

      BIG Mike and Diego just finished Llama Spin. Here are the features.
      • Nested spinning with Color-coded Levels
      • A standard Thesaurus of Synonyms
      • A database of Google Keyword Suggestions
      • A shared DB of User Suggested Keywords/Phrases
      • Automatic Spintax based on "My Favorites"
      • Automatic Spintax based on "Other User's Favorites"
      • Batch Spintax of Multiple Articles based on "My Favorites" and "Other User's Favorites"
      • User Managed "My Favorites" and "My Suggestions" (you can add and delete them)
      • Publish One or Multiple Spun Versions of Article to a Folder on your Computer
      • Incorporates a text editor so you can also manually nest sentences, paragraphs, etc. as desired
      • Spin Preview Window to Verify Spinning Accuracy
      • Displays Percentage of Difference between Original and Spun Content
      • Basic Article Metrics (Word, Sentence, Paragraph Counts; Keyword Density, etc.
      • Online Help Integrated Directly into the Program (No PDF's)
      • Microsoft Compliant Automated Upgrade System
      One time payment. Free updates for life.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
        Originally Posted by JamesTWL View Post

        Hi John,

        Where can i get this Llama spinner? Please direct me to the buy button, thanks.

        James Tan
        This just went out to Incansoft customers. It's a pre-launch $14.95 payment link only. There is no sales page yet.

        http://incansoft.com/LlamaSpin.php

        Originally Posted by Han Fan View Post

        Can someone please provide some reviews on this new spinner?

        Thanks

        Han
        Only a small group of beta testers had Llama Spin before today. Maybe one of them will see your post.

        John
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  • Profile picture of the author Digital Traffic
    Don't think it has been released to the public yet.

    www.incansoft.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
    I just tried the batch spin feature on a folder of PLR articles. Very nice. It needs to be trained with synonyms but it has potential.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toots
    I have used the magic article rewriter and wasn't impressed. I hadn't heard of the best spinner so I am keen to give it a try. Thanks everyone for the advise.
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    Mike, can Llama Spin rewrite sentences and paragraphs like TBS? Can you provide a sample of rewriting results?
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    • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
      Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

      Mike, can Llama Spin rewrite sentences and paragraphs like TBS? Can you provide a sample of rewriting results?
      Yeah you can rewrite sentences.

      "Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency for researchers and other people to favor information that confirms their preconception or hypothesis whether or not it is true.[Note 1][1] As a result, people gather evidence and recall information from memory selectively, and interpret it in a biased way. The biases appear in particular for emotionally significant issues and for established beliefs. For example, in reading about gun control, people usually prefer sources that affirm their existing attitudes. They also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and/or recall have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a stronger weighting for data encountered early in an arbitrary series) and illusory correlation (in which people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations)."

      from wiki

      Using everybodies favorites.

      "Confirmation bias (also known as confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency for researchers and a range of people to favor information that confirms their preconception or hypothesis whether or not it is true.[NOTE 1][1] As a result, people gather evidence and recall information from memory selectively, and interpret it in a biased way. The biases appear in particular for emotionally significant things and for established beliefs. For example, in reading about gun control, people usually prefer sources which affirm their existing attitudes. They also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and/or recall have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a stronger weighting for data encountered early in an arbitrary series) and illusory correlation (in which people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations)."

      Keep in mind that the database had basically nothing in it when I bought the thing last night and it has gotten to this point over night.
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      • Profile picture of the author XXXXXXXX
        Well this may sound stupid but...what did I miss here? They all look the same to me? I thought these were an example of how it spun the articles. Someone please help clear this up for me?

        Thanks X
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        • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
          Originally Posted by XXXXXXXX View Post

          Well this may sound stupid but...what did I miss here? They all look the same to me? I thought these were an example of how it spun the articles. Someone please help clear this up for me?

          Thanks X
          The first one is the original the second one is the spun version using the current state of the global favorites. There isn't much difference, I know. Last night there would have been no difference since the user database was understandably small, today there is more spinning going on automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fitnessdad
    Best Spinner as it alows you to see what the orgianl paragraph or sentence was
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  • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
    Hi spinners,

    I personally use TBS. Initially I was very impressed with the speed and the "replace everyones favorites" function. I have now learn't that saving "your own faovrites" is the main function of the program. This not only allows you to personalize your articles but also provides a guaranty that words are going to be replaced with your desired synonyms.
    Obviously it takes spinning a few articles to establish your personal database, but by doing 5-10 articles a week, the goal is reached relatively quickly.
    Although the product is designed for many different languages, there are many non-native English users that use only the English part of the program, which in turn has lead to a somewhat messed up English database due to "everyone's favorites" being saved.

    Nevertheless, I have not found a spinner that has a true semantic recognition and probably won't in the next decade but TBS is IMHO the nearest and best we can get at the moment.

    Best regards
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  • Profile picture of the author ATHell
    I like the best spinner and I'm using it daily at the moment.
    I really managed a wonderful 75% uniqueness of my article cause of the nested spyntax, that allows me to do spinning in word, phrases, sentences and paragraphs.
    However, starting with article marketing, I've had now the problem, that neither UAW nor AMA are supporting nested spyntax. It takes me some hours to rewrite the articles.
    BTW: Article Marketing Robot and Serp Assist are supporting nested madlibs. That's really great!
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    • Profile picture of the author SniperSoftware
      Originally Posted by ATHell View Post

      I like the best spinner and I'm using it daily at the moment.
      I really managed a wonderful 75% uniqueness of my article cause of the nested spyntax, that allows me to do spinning in word, phrases, sentences and paragraphs.
      However, starting with article marketing, I've had now the problem, that neither UAW nor AMA are supporting nested spyntax. It takes me some hours to rewrite the articles.
      BTW: Article Marketing Robot and Serp Assist are supporting nested madlibs. That's really great!

      Nested Madlibs? Is that when you have two paragraphs in spin syntax with synonyms within that syntax?
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      • Profile picture of the author ATHell
        Originally Posted by SniperSoftware View Post

        Nested Madlibs? Is that when you have two paragraphs in spin syntax with synonyms within that syntax?
        yes, it makes also sense within sentences like:
        he's got { { black|brown|white} shoes|a brand new watch}

        I use it also to make different numbers of paragraphs, so this way the article is completely readable but looks totally different.
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  • Profile picture of the author parklands
    Best spinner works for much better than the others that i have tried.
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  • Profile picture of the author Talkreal
    I never tried TBS because I didn't want to pay the annual fee. That said, it sounds like it is a worthwhile investment if article marketing is a significant part of one's IM strategy.

    I do have MAR and MAS and am very pleased. The time it takes to spin is less and less as I get used to the system and add more synonyms to the db.
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  • Profile picture of the author mezloh
    The Best Spinner is great and the fact that it syncs with SENuke is even better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    The Best Spinner is so powerful. It can also be used with several link building programs, like SENuke, Unique Article Wizard and My Article Network.
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    • Profile picture of the author mmancha
      I use the best spinner. In the beginning it was a toss up for me between using it and just rewriting the article myself. It seemed like it took a long time to go through and select all the best synonyms. I've never used it to spin more than one really good version of a PLR article. It has taken some practice, but now I find it a great time saver. I've never used any other spinners so I can't offer a comparison. I do think it's a great useful tool.

      Maureen
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  • Profile picture of the author Rozaidi
    I heard TBS not for Mac user. Can somebody confirm it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alchemium
      Yea it's PC only but you could use it with either Boot Camp or with Parallels, a software which allows you to run Windows on a Mac without shutdown and restart.
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        I use VMWare Fusion to run all my Windows stuff on my Mac but there is a free Windows emulator available for the Mac too.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Sandercock
    Tried The Best Spinner and really liked it and combined with SENUKE this really is a fantastic bit of software.

    Are there any discount links floating around for "The Best Spinner" in here?
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    • Profile picture of the author snapcontent
      Originally Posted by Dan Sandercock View Post

      Tried The Best Spinner and really liked it and combined with SENUKE this really is a fantastic bit of software.

      Are there any discount links floating around for "The Best Spinner" in here?
      If you are happy to sp**nd $129 a month on senuke, the yearly fee for thebumspinner shouldn't put you off.

      The spinner I use does this automatically to the above text:-

      Confirmatory bias is a bias for analysts and people to prefer info that substantiates their preconception or theory regardless of whether it is true.[Note 1][1] as a consequence, folks gather proof and recall info from memory selectively, and translate it in a prejudiced way. The biases appear particularly for emotionally important issues and for established sentiments. For instance, in reading about firearm control, folks sometimes like sources that substantiate their existing perspectives. They also have a tendency to translate unclear proof as supporting their present position. Biased search, interpretation and / or recall have been summoned to clarify perspective polarization ( when a feud becomes more intense although the different parties are exposed to the same proof ), belief tenacity ( when convictions endure after the proof for them is proven to be fake ), the foolish supremacy effect ( a more robust weighting for info faced early in a capricious series ) and illusory relationship ( in which folks falsely understand an organisation between 2 events or circumstances ).
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  • Profile picture of the author Alle-Cat
    I'm using TBS at the moment and I like it a lot.

    Could someone tell me whether MAR allows you to rewrite just one article, i.e. does it have a replace function rather than adding a word into one of those twirly bracket thingies?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ArgusTargus
    TBS has a lot more frequent upgrades. And I own it. I also did purchase the Magic Article Rewriter, but I found the software is a bit outdated and no frequent upgrades.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    TBS also stores the database locally, has project capabilities, inserts and manages hyperlinks....much more...
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  • Profile picture of the author mark587905
    I use a free spinner and it works well enough for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Actually now TBS does 1000 spins.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
      Cypherslock -

      Agreed on TBS. The recent updates were amazing. I had TBS but it quit working and John and his "team" took so long to answer my questions that they found it easier to refund my $77 rather than fix it.

      On that note, I was NOT happy with TBS - but technically speaking, it's the best in the business. For stability's sake, however, and even speed (performing my own time trials) - MAR with my own tokens (vs. the bajillion nonsense ones in TBS) is where I'm at.

      If I could, I'd get TBS back in a heartbeat - they never tried to actually address my issue, though. The latency in their communication with help requests...ugh! No thanks. Even Alex in the Ukraine was quick to respond - quicker than any of his competitors.

      He won me on that note, and the spinner rocks.
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  • Profile picture of the author lightcam
    I've searched high and low for article spinning software for a mac...

    If anyone can help out... please
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      I own Magic Article Rewriter and The Best Spinner but have hardly used either of them yet. MAR is for Windows (but I run it on an emulator on a Mac) and TBS works on either because it is an online tool. I think The Best Spinner might be the best spinner available now and the developer seems to keep improving it.

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      Originally Posted by lightcam View Post

      I've searched high and low for article spinning software for a mac...

      If anyone can help out... please
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    • Profile picture of the author bradlean
      Quite helpful sometimes but if the employer told you to revise the spun generated article, well that would be a pain in my neck.
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  • Profile picture of the author heenal
    Hi Warriors

    How about Article Marketing Robot

    Also heart MAR is very difficult to use software


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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneZenMaster
    The best Spinner's "One Click Spin" is AWESOME... if you're just focusing on backlinks. I use it like that in SENuke X.
    However; if you want a quality, readable, sensible article... Spinning Manually is the best bet.
    I havn't used Article Magic Rewriter, so I can't say much on that however, sorry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeb
      Originally Posted by Aiming High View Post

      Does anyone know anything about the new spinner "spin Rewriter" that is supposed to be launched in July?

      It seems all the best spinning software is desktop based. Does anyone know if these desktop products allow more than one licence? I want to have my outsource worker use it but I also want to be able to see how it works myself, but I can't find information on whether you can do this. Seems to me to just be one purchase, one licence.
      I think that you can use TBS on 2 computers but only one can log in at a time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Gehr
    I used to use Best Spinner.

    However, in January-February 2001, most of my 79 websites took a major drop in page rank due to the fact that a lot of my article content was spun.

    I've since rectified with unique content and applied other strategies to fix that problem.

    My advice to you is not to use an article spinner.

    Unique content will always rule over regurgitated text.

    It takes time to make sense of a spun article, and if you're looking for high percentage of "uniqueness" it can take a lot of work editing the gibberish that even the best article spinner can render.

    For me, it's faster to write a new and unique article than it is to fix the crappy output of a spun article that basically reads the same as the original.

    Article spinning is a shortcut that will not do you justice in the long run.
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