SEnuke hands down.

No offence to Pete but SEnuke is 100 times less buggy, supports a ton more features, the user interface doesn't look like a child designed it and supports better websites.

Just my 2 cents.

SENUke is really cool with a lot of features. Cool program.

Yeah I'm having issues with Bruteforce's support system.. sent in a support ticket like 4 or 5 days ago... not a word from them.

I do think bruteforce has lots of potential but it needs to have better support for a $97 subscription

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There is another thread about this here:
Anyone having great success with Brute Force SEO?

My personal opinion is that Bruteforce SEO gets a big thumbs down for myself and my customers who ask for my reviews. Go with SENuke. Bruteforce SEO It isn't worth $97.00 a month. There are reasons beyond the buggy software that aren't appropriate to discuss here, but beware.

SEnuke is a wonderful piece of software. I really love it when software works the way it's advertised, and Senuke does that and then some. The latest upgrade is awesome. I never get bored watching the new submission window. The blinking red, blue and green...I haven't seen my wife since.

I am using SENuke, so far so good, but you need some SEO and article skills to use it correctly...

FOr some reason it won't let me join. When I try and sign up I get Your IP is blocked???

Has this happened to anyone else? I emailed them but have had no reply.

I haven't used Brute SEO, but I use SeNuke, and I like it.

I haven't used it to it's full potential yet, but I'm starting to see many different social bookamrking links showing up in the Se's now.

However, if you go with SeNuke, remember to get uniqueness above 30%. Seriously! Taking a few minutes extra to do this can make you go from 1 to 20 pages showing up in the search engines!

Both of them are good for internet marketing savvy individuals. it does come with a learning curve for newbies.

Yeah, SeNuke is best for advanced internet marketers.
I don't think a newbie would have any clue about what to do in the beginning.
I have recently started using it, and I see several links to me on the first pages on google.

Sound like SeNuke wins hands down.

I am testing them both and the auto social, article video account creator add-on for the BF SEO package works quite well.

Will update as I move through it.

Someone doesn't agree that SENuke is good.
SENuke - SE Nuke

Donny, I think looking up the background of people who post in this forum is pretty good due diligence. I have no problem with that.

When I make posts in public I do so with full transparency.

I first met Peter online when I noticed his blogposts in an SEO competition that we were both competing in. I have exchanged ideas and opinions with him since then and I would say we have a good friendship.

Yes I went to his house once. I was there presenting to a group of warriors on the subject of traffic at a recent Warrior Forum get together.

A group of warriors also went to dinner in full public view at a local restaurant.

In this thread I have not posted a glowing testimonial, I just mentioned the auto account creator works for me since this is one of the slowest aspects of social bookmarking-creating all those accounts. When I ran the software I was delighted with the level of automation and how it can save time.

Importantly, I am a full paying customer just like anyone else with BruteforceSEO so I feel that I am entitled to comment on my experience with the product. Peter has never asked me to comment on his product.

So far it is working. I did mention in my review that I am comparing it back to back with SENuke and I'll be posting further comments.

I'm not compromised by others in my opinion of products. I have personally met and travelled with many of the big name marketers and I never promote products or services that don't meet my standards.

I checked the rules:

2. If you post your opinion on a product it must be longer than "it sucks" or "it's great". We're looking for intelligent feedback and reasons why you feel the way you do, good or bad.

3. Do not attack nor give your opinion about the product creator. This forum is about product reviews, not the people who create the products.

4. In general, just use common sense and don't come in here just to bash products created by people you may not like. Again, we are looking for intelligent reviews so people can be helped in making a decision one way or the other.

I couldn't find anything that says you can't post if you've ever met the product creator.

lol, that's your blog isn't it? If not, I don't understand why you couldn't have just put the website address here instead of adding keyword-specific anchor text to help that page rank better for the terms "SEnuke" and "SE Nuke"?

Anyways, that blog is not important because it is attacking the concept behind any automated SEO software and the guy seems to have his own vested interest of selling an eBook or something... it really has nothing to do with comparing brute force seo with senuke.

@James: Yea that's fine, you're still entitled to your opinion and you very well could be a genuinely nice guy trying to post an unbiased opinion. But the fact that you're Pete's friend just stood out to me so I thought I'd share that knowledge with the rest of the folks reading this, nothing personal.

I am using SENUKE it works perfect

I have compared the account creators between the two and SE Nuke is better because it verifies for you. The new BFSeo one is coming out soon - I'll compare again when it comes out.

That's true. When you post a link it automatically anchor text links it to the title of the that page.

That blog has no merit, because it is judging that it sucks based upon the fact that you can do the same thing by hand. Totally stupid.

No one says you can't. Even Pete with his software says you can do it by hand, but this software makes it much easier and although I have a couple of beefs with the limitations of SENuke, overall it works quite well and save a load of time.

By limitations I mean as one example, the random feature in SENuke. Randomization is overrated. It should be there but it should also go through your alternate titles etc., in sequence. Because, if you give it say 10 different titles to name your sites and you are doing 10 sites it may not give each a unique name but rather it very well may pick the same 2 or 3 out of the 10 titles you gave and 3 of your ten will have the exact same title,a nd another 3 and the other 4 too.

It would be better that it went in sequence, and THEN (if you have more sites than titles) it would then pick at random. So, if you wanted and were doing 10 sites, you could just pick 10 titles and it would name each one uniquely.

It also is anal about forcing you to put numbers in titles. Maybe it could alert you but in that sense it behaves like MS software. It should be up to the individual how they want to name their sites, etc., and be the user's responsibility.

Apparently it also used to have the option to interlink sites and then was removed. I also think that should be back in and be up to the user whether they want to do that or not.

I like it a lot though. And there are fixes and updates that come out regularly.

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Update - I am finding SENuke to be the most effective.

SENuke is the business.

SENuke is fantastic ! Both the software and the support is far better than BFS.

Well I took BFseo (updated version) out for a run today and it was very smooth. I like how it interlinks the different accounts together. This is more strategic than the SEnuke.

I like them both.

Hi Everyone,

Thank you very much for your reviews, I had tried BFSEO every month that the software has been rereleased and unfortunately, in my opinion, I haven't been able to get the software to work very well- for me, I contacted support almost a half a dozen times and still no word back to my questions.

I really liked the idea and I have over 35 clients that I thought the software would do very well to rank on the search engines for the different keywords by creating this "mini network" but for me that hasn't happend. Just this last time the rerelease hit Dec 13 I believe, I joined one more time because of the rerelease and still I didn't find the software helpful for me, I also tried contacting support again letting them know I understand they may be inundated with support emails but that I had tried a half dozen times to contact them for help and they haven't replied-PLEASE RESPOND-if nothing else than to let me know you had received my support email-no response.

Oh well- in my opinion I think they were very worried about making sure that they had an ability to shut a person's account off first and foremost who didn't pay rather than making sure the support and software were working correctly.

I don't know Pete, I do know that he's had quite a following and I wish him the best and will believe eventually he may get the system working till them I am on the sidelines.

I did sign up for SEO Nuke and believe that this solution has worked very well for me, the support was fast and the account creator very good as well. I'll keep you posted on the seonuke as I continue to use this software.

James thanks for your insight as well.

Happy Holidays everyone!!!

John

Hi James,

Thanks for the follow up, I appreciate your input.

I look forward to using SENUke, to bad about BFSEO b/c that looked like a really nice idea, have a great holiday!!!

John

I saw that on that other Blog someone gave the point of buying SEOelite for a one time fee of $167 instead of paying $97 a month for SENuke.

Any opinions here on SEOelite VS SeNuke?

Just to add my 2c,

I have used both and Peter Drew's Bruteforce SEO should still be in beta and not charging people $137 per month for what is useless software.

SENuke is superb and issues get fixed promptly and professionally without being constantly told the stock answer, "Don't sweat it".

Bruteforce SEO, apart from the moderator Karen and a member called Bill who are both exceedingly helpful, was an atrocious customer experience. The Bruteforce SEO sales page is something like a lawyer, full of lies and half truths. I did a blog post on the comparison between Bruteforce SEO and SENuke and it turned out so one sided it looks like I am a shareholder for SENuke LOL

SENuke is great..

Works very well.. Heaps better than anything else I used so far, sure beats the opposition hands down..

Take care

Bruce

I've been using automated software now for 3+ years and i've never seen a team of support more dedicated to keeping SENuke running well. There are so many variables they have to deal with, and the service is top notch.

I've used both and SENuke wipes the floor with Bruteforce, not even a contest in my opinion.

Matt

Yea SENuke may have its quirks but so does any software of this type that needs to be updated as things change, but they have updates very often and customer service has been good in my experience. It's pretty cool. If you are making money with your promotions the monthly fee is a non issue.

I didn't buy Petes BFS because I have brought several of his wso via this forum before and found that a lot of the software stopped working or that the promised additions never arrived

Google bomber
Rss submitter

being just a few that Crapped out the rss submitter promised to submit to 20
sites yet last time I used it it had had only 5 working.

I got yahoo360 submitter this worked but the formatting was awful

I finally came up with a better solution using five programs
Article Post Robot
Bookmarking Demon
Howies evil pinger
Jonathon Leger Article Wizard Pro and auto social marker

these combined with proxy lists have produced better results than the previous programs of petes I tried before plus they don't have the bugs

I can't comment on Senuke never tried it but after spending close to $500 dollars to get the software I mentioned above I probably never will

I tried Brute Force SEO and it did not work at all. I followed everything exactly, but I received no rankings whatsoever, and I was targeting low competition keywords.

I canceled my subscription right before the trial finished. I just came across SEnuke just over a week ago, and I did the trial to see how well it worked. Like any software there are always a few bugs, and the Web 2.0 sites are always changing, so there are short periods of time when the software can't submit to a few of the sites. However, it usually has over 80% success rate, and I am usually having a 100% success rate. The support is amazing, and they are constantly adding to the software, so it is always improving. Everything it promises to do, it actually does. I am very impressed with the software.

In the trial week I made $80 from my submissions, which almost paid for the first month, and I hadn't even paid for the software yet. If you want proof that I am impressed, you can visit the SEnuke forum. I have been active there and stated my successes.

I have dominated the first 3 pages of Google for multiple keywords for multiple products I am promoting, and I haven't even had it for two weeks. I have been marketing very aggressively with it, and I have achieved great results.

Here is a page with my review of it, and also the bonuses I am offering for it: SEnuke Review And Bonuses

mick535, you have a link there that says SEnuke is a black hat software, but it's not. It is only black hat if you use it as a black hat software. It just automates tasks that you can do manually. It isn't meant as a black hat tool. (although I use it as one)

You say that SEnuke has a 6 month head start, but on Brute Force SEO's sales page they state that:

"So they have been working on it for longer than SEnuke, and they are saying that it should basically be perfect, which it isn't. From what they say on their sales page it shouldn't have hardly any bugs whatsoever, but it does, and it has more than SEnuke.

When I used Brute Force SEO I didn't see any results whatsoever, however when I tried SEnuke I made $100 my first week of submissions. I tried BFSEO about a month ago, so it has probably improved since then, but I am going to wait a while before I bother trying it again, especially since SEnuke keeps adding more features.

And they do overlap to what they submit to, so they are not completely separate, however I may end up trying out Brute Force SEO again in a month or so.

I am not trying to put down Brute Force SEO, but I just didn't get any results when I tried it.

I do as well. I have starting to dominate the niche markets I am in, but I am also fairly new to internet marketing, and I am achieving good results with SEnuke, so I am going to stick with it for now.

Like I said, in a month or so I will try Brute Force SEO again and then hopefully they will have worked out even more of the bugs and it will be even more effective for me. Until then, I am going to stick with SEnuke, as it has done well for me so far.

Great posts! My mind is made up - Thanks for the good information and honest opinions!

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SENuke FTW! SENuke is less buggy plus the web20 sites it builds pages on are great. For BF, it creates pages on Geocities and just a handful of others.

Also, you can't get yourself off of Pete Drew's mailing list once you're on it because he doesn't include an Unsubcribe link! Is that even legal? Since he's in Australia, maybe Spam laws are different

He shouldn't make people email him personally to unsubcribe. Unsubscribing from someone's list should be as easy as possible.

How does SENuke and BruteForce SEO compare to SEOmoz's PRO membership?

Senuke is great and these guys provide fantastc support

BruteForce, first pissed off Peter customers by sending misguiding email about a 1$ offer that was just a way to join the affiliate program

and when released was more a way to lose time than to earn , doesn't justify the price

overhyped as didn't deliver the promise for me and i really tried to make it work

If you put a week-end to learn all the things you can do with Senuke, you have a great leverage.

Mary

Thanks for some great reviews. This one was a no-brainer, just signed up for SEnuke!

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I have found that I can get a quicker response by posting in the forum as opposed to filling out a help desk ticket.

I'm using Brute Force SEO and stumbled upon this thread as I was
looking for information on comparisons.

Seems like an overwhelming majority here votes for SENuke; I had
a horrible time during the first 2 months of BFS as well but it's
working fine for me now.

I am considering switching to SENuke (as it's cheaper) or getting
both, and am curious about folks who have experience with using
both; as in, using both for the same sites.

Do you get good results?

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I was thinking about getting Brute Force SEO since the new version has been released. Does anoyone have a review on the latest version?

***Updated after this week-end suffering*****

Hi Warriors

here is my experience with these great tools

they are both great tools to automate your business

BUT, they can be counter productive if you don't have a clear plan and follow some rules

if you acquire them for a miracle push button, you may start to submit like a mad PLR all around. And that's the worst way to use these tools

Rating:
i rate SENUKE 9/10 for the results
I rate bruteforceseo 3/10 as just was unable to use it, account creation and twitter just never worked. and the tutorials videos are just useless small talk of Peter

cheers
Mary

SENuke it is.

sorry to say that, but it just after buying 50 software, that only 5 work; you start to become really cautious about the next big things

I have joined and unsubscribed after testing the last bruteforceseo

the videos are useless, and the software are too buggy so far
it does not command a price of 147$/month for no results...worst just lost hours trying to use it, and the videos are really unprofessional.
Peter was more concerned to send tons of emails to promote and he made good cash but poor work on the tutorials side
really disappointed, as i tried to use it

use Senuke, it's much more professional with a real support and real tutorials
I have to say Thumbs up to the guys of Senuke, as they have created a really amazing piece of software.

my 2 cents
Mary

It's been a while since using senuke myself. I've considered it again most recently simply to speed up the web 2.0 side of my campaigns and I'm ramping up my video submission now. Generally I don't like programs that automate my account process and create sites.

One thing I'm wondering if a current user could answer for me, does senuke still create accounts with numbers in them? That always really bothered me for some reason, it just screams of automation.

SE Nuke is freakin awesome!! THis is the only tool I use for my Internet marketing and encompasses everything I do in my campaigns. Its certainly cut down my work time 90%. I definately recommend this software to any one!!

Pardon my very basic and maybe stupid question here, but what does SENuke really do? Is it similar to BookMarking Demon and those kinds of automated social bookmarking thingies? Or is it something different and/or more?

are you asking if leaving a big old footprint hurts? Because senuke is VERY careful not to leave any prints.

From all of these reviews ... Senuke .. Hands Down !!!

Thanx !

The monthly fee is stiff, but if you practice using it, you should be able to make the recurring payment in a day...

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All the way, SENUKE!

This software is ultimately neat. Creates account on the fly, including account creation for 4 emails (your choice), then the Web 2.0 sites, video sites, bookmarking sites and RSS sites.

I create a new set of Web 2.0 sites everyday. You don't need to create too many bookmarking sites, few profiles are enough to work for few weeks. On RSS, about 2 to 3 is enough as only 3 sites need login, the rest are free submit.

I like the keyword research tool inside, coupled with Google Adwords Tool and the batch research tool, I can easily find easy keywords to target. I am actually using SENUKE's keyword tool to do my Sniper sites!

Further, SENUKE can submit your Web 2.0 sites in as many threads as your PC can handle. I just got a new laptop, so now I can open 15 submitters and let them work all at the same time! Within minutes, I can complete a full nuking, including social bookmarking and RSS nuking! This is one of the most important feature every program must have, multi-threading!

The updates are frequent. It has a built-in bug/not-working report tool, just key in your problem and submit. You will most likely see a fix on the next update. This kind of support is really the success of SENUKE!

I am 4 months into SeNuke already. I agree, you need the right skill and mindset to success with SeNuke, just like every other tool.

Daniel

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I have been using both SEnuke and BFSEO extensively for almost two months now. Yes, I prefer SEnuke over BFSEO because it looks better, it is more SEO friendly and the latest version has a whopping 490 sites in its Web2.0 Profile Nuke versus BFSEO's 100 sites in Linking Loophole.

But, guess what? I have had enormous success with BFSEO and LL getting dozens of KWs (some very difficult one's) to first spot or first page of Google. To-date I have not achieved a single result with SEnuke. This baffles me as I would expect far better results with SEnuke. Instead nada.

The only thing I can think of is that SEnuke is used by far more IM's than BFSEO and the sites are extensively spammed causing many of the SEnuke sites to fight back.

I use SEnuke on a daily basis,, and it works.. if it works and I get higher rankings and make more money.. then I am happy to pay

You can get a 58% discount on senuke for the first 5 weeks of membership at SENuke Review, 58% Off Discount, Huge SE Nuke Bonus | Senuke Review & SEO Guide

I am interested to see what happens with BFSEO EVO2 but we will have to wait and see that is for sure.

What do you find is the best feature of SENuke? Does anyone find the link wheel strategy helpful?

It seems that if the new bruteforceseo evo II delivers on all the promises it will bring it closer to senuke. Senuke may still have some features that evo II does not.

I just came off my free trial for SENuke...I believe that it would be more cost effective to buy various flat rate software packages instead of over $100/month recurring. However, if you are making $500+ a month with IM, I can see the cost justification to have everything there at once.

I'm trying BF EVO 2 as well. I've put the link in my sig file but I haven't really tested it at this stage. Some of the ancilliary software that comes with the membership I have been using for a couple of weeks and do like - but I dont use SE Nuke so can't compare.
We will see.
Cheers
Alan

I have used SENuke, and am quite happy with it. My friend used Brute Force, and he discontinued after a week and switched over to senuke, so I got the answer!

Still trying it out.

So far I really like how nicely laid out the interace is and how quick it can create an e-mail account and password for the account creation.

First It automatically creates an e-mail account and password to use for your account creation.(within seconds) Then you can select which accounts you would like the software to create.

Video sites, article sites (including EZA), bookmarking,rss feeds,etc.

Then it goes to work on creating those accounts.

When I first ran the account creation it seemed to stall out for long periods of times on some captcha solving in the beginning. It got stuck on one site so I tried to enter captcha myself and it froze the program. So I had to restart program. Luckily it lets you save your project file to load again.

Now I'm just letting it run throuhg all the account creation without any intervention just to see how it handles everything on its own.

It seems to be going through all the sites. I will have to wait and see how many sites it created successful accounts for. Its suppose to verify the accounts that go to your e-mail.

I will have to check and see when the dust settles on the account creation to see whats going on.

Then I guess move on to next step which is loading content to have EVO put it up on the sites.

I guess what your suppose to do with the videos sharing sites is to upload one video to youtube (which it does not create an account for) then the software pulls that video from youtube using its url to use in HeySpread to upload your video to the other video sharing sites.

Again have not got to the content part yet. Still creating accounts stage.

I like the idea and concept of EVO2.

I really hope that everything contineus to run smooth.

EDIT: WOW sweet after all the account creation. A small window pops up and tells me that it is checking e-mail. Now I get to watch the software login to my newly create yahoo e-mail account and verify all the accounts it just created for the content sites. I see 24 e-mails in there.And more are showing up as the software verifys each account.

EDIT: Ok the dust has settled on the account creation.

Heres the breakdown of my account creation. Your results may be different but these are mine...


1) Out of 5 possbile feed sites it created 4 accounts

2) Out of 9 possbile article sites it created 2 accounts (not happy with this)
I elected to exclude EZA (Edit: just found out has stopped allowing submissions from everybody)

3) Out of 13 possbile social sites it created 11 accounts

4) Out of 11 possbile video sites it created 9 accounts (they tell you in .pdf that revver might be problem- which it was) Youtube is not included in account creation

5) Out of 1 possbile tools sites(rss site) it created 1 accounts

Frank Bruno

My girlfriend seems to think that EVO is a real robot that does all the work for me...AWWW Bless

Just found out has stopped allowing submissions from everybody.

also EAsyarticles blocking submisisons.

So they need to remove these sites from the software

Frank Bruno

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EVO2-

Most if not all the article accounts were indeed created and setup.
Its just that most of them were not showing on the right of each article directory in the sofware.

What I recommend to do until admins of EVO2 can resolve is to try to login to each site that is not showing as successully created on left. You may find that indeed the accounts were created.

Then just copy and paste your user/pass from one of the others accounts since they are all the same.

Now need to move on to test the rest of the software

Frank Bruno

Thanks
Frank Bruno

Interesting you mention that you can't get into the EVO2 forum as Pete just responded to a post that I made a few minutes ago and didn't even ask him a question ,I just posted my feedback and he gave a suggestion.

I also got a warm welcome over there from other forum contributers and my name was not even shown in the forum. It was under a different username.

Yahoo e-mail works like a charm. Not sure how they work the yahoo or gmail and who gets them and if they are rotated,etc. behind the scenes or if its rotated within the software

Frank Bruno

Guys,

Sorry to interrupt here.

But I really just want to let the cat out of the bag here.

I'm currently also developing something similar that will compete with the best of the best tools.

Aptly titled, SEOmated. Check my sig.

Listening to Feedback is the most important thing any businessman can have.

As such, please leave as much feedback as possible in this thread.

Remember, a free market only benefits the consumers!

Just to let you guys know: Yes, I hear and understand the same old cries of the users of such software ..

..not to forget that I was the user before.

thanks for your suggestion . I am a new member of thsi forum.

still indecisive if i should get it too...

keep the reviews coming guys...

toni

signed up for your list Jeff.

I got the Evo II trial yesterday and just kept hitting the button to create my email account and kept getting the error message - then gave up. I already have to babysit enough automation programs with captchas and account creations.

I'm glad I found this thread - probably not even going to mess with this for now. to think, i was seriously pondering the upsell 2-yr deal but then thought - what IM product is ever good (not obsolete) for 2 whole years? very few...

BruteForce is way too buggy. Automation products are supposed to save you time, not waste it trying to get the programs to work. Besides that, their support sucks as with most of his products!

No - I'm not always the best with "directions" and that's entirely my fault. - ends up costing me more time in the end sometimes.

I guess my only source of heartburn here would be committing to a 2-yr deal when I don't see any (hardly) guru's keeping up with any product or service for that amount of time. These things require CONSTANT tweeking to keep up with all of the site changes, url switches, you name it. It's a constant update race where your "miracle" automation machine could become a nice desktop ornament in under a week if you don't have some seriously dedicated programmers behind it.

I've seen it happen and it's disappointing when you spent $30, $50 or even $100. ...they're asking a bit more for this.

could be worth it. I'm wrong all the time....

BF2 - I watched the video on the sales page where he walks you through the software showing you what it does, but I won't buy it because I think it's too expensive $157 per month.

As far as I can see it's supposed to automatically create accounts (but the reviews are saying it's hardly automated and requires manually entering captchas), be able to post articles and videos, do some bookmarking, and submit rss feeds. Anything else?

There's already cheaper software (for a one off payment) that does article submission.
And another program that does bookmarking to more sites, also a once off payment and not a high monthly fee.

My 2c.

Just tried another run of the static account creator with the new update.

PROS: Fills in account details faster, seems to be taking less time to navigate from page to page. Using Yahoo mail instead of Gmail is a very wise choice, as well.

CONS: That damn captcha service. Seriously, it takes 4-5 minutes to get through the 10 tries, and then I have to do it manually anyway. If there aren't enough staff on hand for the service, or if the staff aren't being monitored properly, it would be nice to have an option to use a paid service or set it to manual entry.

If they can work out the captcha problems, it'll be a great piece of software.

I haven't tried SENuke. I have tried BruteForce (the old model) and cancelled it.

Apart from the account creation problems, created accounts being closed down rapidly, etc., I found the article distribution leaves a lot to be desired.

Grabbing an article, plonking your keyword in front of the title, and throughout the article seems to me to be a bit shonky. Could have something to do with why the accounts get deleted almost instantly. I can't help but wonder what the authors of these articles think about their creations being used in this manner. I hope they get some links/traffic from the use of their articles as well

Until this is improved, BF/EVO is on the "better value elsewhere" list.

From what I can see SENuke can distribute "unique" content to each account. Although that to is probabaly not without flaws as well. Swings and roundabouts I guess.

Will get around to trying SEN shortly.

It is amazing how he is the only one that does not have the captcha problems as jeremy said. I started a run lastnight, got up the dam thing is stuck, so for the next 30 minutes or so I wait to see if at anytime it overcomes anything. Nothing. Im doing the work.

And here is the issue someone named Daniel Mcgonagle brought up in a review of the linking loophole, The links by themselves are ineffective without some sort of promotion of the profiles as a few people have pointed out. In other words if there is no pinger built in to these profiles hard to say if they will ever really benefit.

So if we let it grab articles, with no uniqueness to them and build linkwheels with them whats the point? By the time I put 5 articles in, did multiple titles, 3x resource boxes for each article, I was then thinking these things still need to be accepted (the articles), then after they are accepted they can be social bookmarked , and submitted to rss feeds to help the articles.

But their is no such feature. My impression is this is to be the next step in link wheel building. If it is and we are hoping to get some traffic from the links, the article needs some ability to have someone want to come further.

Hell maybe its me, Im missing the point.But for 157.00 a month I should be able to go to bed, wake up and have results not baby sit this thing paying someone money hoping they get it right. Will do my own work same amount of time.

Here is that review from Terry McGonagle on linking loophole:

[CENTER]As you may know if you're a regular reader of this blog I started to test and review Peter Drew's Brute Force Linking Authority Loophole or BFLAL for short.


I thought terrys review had a lot of good points. Again for 157.00 a month you need to be spot on. This hang in there untill it works better stuff is not cutting it. And like SEnuke right now their effectiveness has been cut down by over half because spammers have blown up the sites with over use and abuse.

These tools get abused and then become less effective. Make your own opinion, this is just mine and like butts everyone has one. Now there is a secret I use of 2 services combined that end up costing 2/3rds of that 157 a month that is spot on and are so good together that it is scary.

But that secret would cost money and I am not sure how much, in fact I am keeping it to myself. Hell they don't even know how good they are for each others service.....

Please link to third party reviews - unless you have express permission to quote them here.

Affiliate links in signatures are, of course, strictly forbidden. I have not removed the related posts because they contain useful comments (which I don't believe are being made just to boost affiliate sales) but other actions are being taken.

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EVO II:

I had to frequently intervene during the account creation process in Evo II.

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There was a problem with many of the captchas, particularly those with 2 words and I got sick of waiting around. So, I just manually entered the remaining captchas.

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Although the software didn't show all of the account passwords, usernames etc, after manually logging in to the accounts, I found that many had been created and I just entered my details into the software.

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Four of the accounts were not created by the software, so I manually created these as well. I have created all of the accounts that came with the program, including revver and bharatbhasha.

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The software had a problem with the gmail account it created. When it was trying to check emails, it kept entering the complete email address into the gmail username submission form, rather than just the username. I got around this by manually logging into gmail, using the created name and remaining logged in while it completed the process.

Although I'm not impressed with the account creation process, especially for the price, I will keep an open mind until I have tested the rest of the software, before my trial expires.

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Hi guys,

Just signed up and am looking at purchasing possibly Senuke OR Brute force (not both, lol). I've been reading that Senuke is the better product. My question is, when I checked out the terms that Bruteforce was ranking in google for ("seo software" and "twitter software") Bruteforce was second on the first page. The term "seo software" and "twitter software" are very difficult to rank for, so it seems that BS is doing something right.

However, Senuke ranked for "how do you get to the top pages of google" which I am sure is also a competitive phrase, but not as competitive as "seo software." Also, on the sales pages Senuke emphasized more about bringing traffic and BS emphasized about rankings.

So what are the goals of each software? Traffic or rankings? Is Bruteforce more about getting ranked on google/yahoo and Senuke more about getting traffic from social bookmarkings? Can you rank on the first page of google with Senuke for competitive keywords? What am I missing?

RE: BF EVO2
Canceled my subscription: @ $157pm overpriced, backlink portfolio very limited, support a bit arrogant, software to buggy at the moment.

This software communicates with and creates accounts on a massive amount of websites and promotes YOUR websites via them.

Once you get your IE used to working with them, the software works flawlessly, the simplest way to do this is to update to IE8 with most sites are designed to use anway.

If you have IE 6, your IE will most likely have errors on page, resulting in EVO II or any software that relies on IE modules to stop..

its not rocket science.

Btw, one of the main problems users are experiencing is trying to stop the software to fix one error on just one site out over over 100. This is not a good idea., users are getting in the way of the software doing its job through to the end.

Start it, let it finish, all done

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i think senuke is much better than Bruteforceseo

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Hi Stephen,

I tried the 7 day trial of EVOII and I refunded it, as I didn't think it was that great an SEO tool to be honest.

It posts profile links for your on high PR sites, but in such a way that they look majorly spammy and risk deletion. Also if takes random articles and posts this content to sites like Tumblr and places your link in them and keeps the original author's link also.

It them creates RSS feeds and like an earlier poster mentioned does something pretty checky/clever with the links to points links at their own sites, but regardless they still create RSS feeds and mash them up and get links.

Only problem I have is that if you are in competitive niches where you needs a solid SEO plan, then this tool is perhaps a nice little add on, but it aint no one stop solution, that's for sure. It posts to a set number of sites, which means you don't get much IP address diversity in your links, which is not great.

I asked this in their forum but never got a good response from the administrators. I also emailed their support and they never got back to me.

I think for easy keywords it does have value though.

That's just my opinion, but as I said I did invite discussion from them and never got it, instead got something along the lines of "check it these results!! They rock!!" and I am no into hype, I like evidence and facts.

Cheers

I'm quite new on this site, so don't flame me but;

I've been using EVO2 for the past few days, and although I can't speak as to how good it is against SENuke, what I do know is EVO2 is easy to use and the support is better than I could have expected. I had some problems with crashing and IE errors. Then upgraded to IEv8 and its been fine ever since. Out of the 5 support tickets I've raised 3 were issues, 2 were me being an idiot...but what I can say is that they were answered same day, within a few hours with quality responses.

For me at an intermediate level its a great tool, and I'm really surprised at some of these comments in this thread?

I've now set my site up as an affiliate and started tracking progress myself on a new site, and we'll see where it ends up in a few days - as they say the proof is in the pudding.

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Who is really having success with these when it comes to actual SEO? Seems like you can create backlinks in these profiles until you are blue in the face, but it seems that google doesn't find them very often. I subscribed to receive backlink notifications through google and noticed very few after several weeks of SENuke.

Anyone else?

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Profile Links for get picked up, I am totally convinced of that now. I have been using them and setting up weird user names, and then after a week or two searching in Google for that name, and I find loads of my profiles, even when back link checkers and Google alerts tell me otherwise.

Sometimes it takes time for your rankings in the SERPS to show up. Google finds your anchor text links but won't really give you any juice, sometimes right away, or a few weeks or even a few months later.


Frank Bruno

I just cancelled during my 7 day trial of evo2, and cancelled my brute force linking loophole too.

The evo2 is poor, the linking loophole only created links on 45 sites out of 103.

At that rate I can build the links faster.

Going to try senuke too and maybe the link dominator.

I had been using LinkingLoophole, i see some results so far, but not as much traffic/link love as i was expecting. Just signed up for the trial and installed EVOII, we'll see how it goes...

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I am staying with evo 2 for at least the first month to see if I see a noticeable difference with articles or youtube vids. But one thing I do like about it is that it pretty much does it's thing without me having to "help it along". It failed a couple times trying to set up an email address for me but that was it.

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The only thing I do not like about SEnuke is the babysitting that you need to do sometimes...

I like the idea of not having to touch something once it is up and running.. I would like SEnuke to be like this as well... Just to fill out a form and press go.. and it does everything... and you can choose modules to use or not... that would be cool...

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I'm finding that since the last EVO update it has crashed almost every single time that I have used it. Nothing worse then letting it work 2 hours creating accounts and then crash as it starts to post.

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have not used senuke though plan on testing it out here shortly

i have been using linking loophole/brute force for a few months and like it quite a bit overall. i admit it is quite buggy but overall it gives you alot of punch on relative autopilot

to give a completely honest review its powerful software but especially the 2.0 module is really buggy. 5 sites total which i dont feel is enough to begin with.and alot of the time most of them dont work

bottom line, even if the 2.0 module doesnt work.its still worth it to me to pay the full member sub for it as its basically an automatic creator/confirmer for the linking loophole module and rss submission(not many rss aggs available anymore though which sux)

article module works well too though hopefully they will add in a spin/submit module like awa has and have way more sites to submit too

thats as honest of a review as i can give as a full member that doesnt do any affiliate promos for the product

ps-running evo right now,the auto capture is slow but a thing of beauty nonetheless

Ewffff!!! I am on the trial for SeNuke. I've used other programs for this but Se just rocks!! After watching the videos it super easy to use.

Can't say enough about how cool this "robotic" age is.

And, after my business partner spent three days in Yahoo answers answering and posting normal "human" questions and getting BANNED (argh!!!!) and then having her account cancelled. We'll now fight the good fight with robotics... thank ya!!

Tx again SeNuke!!

I've used SENuke and canceled after my first month. I ran into many bugs and then the accounts would get closed down either after the next day or sometime within the week. I used different proxies and email accounts but all had the same aftermath. I'm still in owe how some people swear by it though. Perhaps they don't care to check the work after it's done a week later.

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All I can say is that with one run of Terry Kyle's linklist, and a few Brute Force SEO sessions, I am sitting at #1 for my product name as a keyword, competing against 700,000+ sites.

That is in just a little over a week. Not too shabby at all.

Brute Force kicks ass.

SENuke doesn't even compare... Having to solve my own captchas? Please... not anymore....

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I have been using EVO2 for a week now and I haven't had a chance to work with SEnuke just yet. I can say that my main page went from PR0 to PR1 this week. And every site I am promoting has had an increase in traffic - ranging from 17-200%. The higher number is of course for a new site that just jumped from 2 - 6 visitors in the last week.

I would be interested to see what traffic bumps I can get with SEnuke. I think both products are strong but do some different things.

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I would be interested to see what type of statistical results people are getting with either of these programs. Please let me know.

interesting reads here.
so far it looks like senuke is far ahead

I own and use SEnuke and am very happy with it.

senuke is definately the software for me, I've had very good affiliate success with it, haven't tried Brute Force, but from what I hear it can be quite buggy, not that SENuke is still totally bug free! Nothing will ever be perfect with IM software though!

I'd like to see proof for all of those that have said they received any SERP movement at all using these programs. I've tried SENuke for 3 months and it did absolutely nothing for my sites.

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Since Brute Force just relaunched, I'd be curious to hear what others think about the 2.

I feel like I should just buy both and see which one is better: Brute Force SEO or SENukeXcr