Domain Scalping

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Anyone check out Deiss' new product at domainscalping.com?

I've thought about getting into domaining in the past, but man...it always seemed nearly impossible to get good .com names.

Is this really a viable way to make money these days?
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  • I've always stayed pretty far away from domaining, but one thing I do know...

    Domain names are worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it.

    So I guess I would answer.... Maybe.
  • I know I could get flamed for saying it, because im SURE Deiss split-tested everything and set it all up properly before launching the product.

    But doesnt anyone else HATE video sales pages that cannot be paused, skipped forward, or that are not accompanied by some more text?

    It is sooooo slow and my ADHD will not let me pay attention for that long.
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    • Hey Zach,

      I bought your original WSO. How is this different enough to warrant a new investment?

      Thanks,
      Rick
    • Thanks for letting me know! I'll get in touch with tech asap to make sure everything is alright.

      hehe, that's hilarious. I'll make sure to tell Ryan.

      Possibly in the future on another subject, but not on domaining unfortunately.
  • It can be paused by "clicking" on the video. I wonder why it's so slow for you...hmmm
  • ahhh because I have been clicking like made trying to speed the thing up, as I do not have audio on this computer.

    It's just slow for me? or have you found some secret way to skip it ahead too? Or does everyone else just enjoy reading at the speed of a first grader?
  • I mean it makes sense in terms of ENSURING that NO ONE skims your sales page or rushes through the site and misses important details.

    But come on...
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    • Just "view source" and look for the link that it supposed to open at a timed interval in the javascript.
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    It's pretty lucrative for some sellers
    Half Million Dollar Sale at Sedo and .CO Landrush Auction Sales Dominate This Week's Domain Sales Chart

    As you can see, a .com isn't necessary to make money with domains. The right buyer and the right domain name is all it takes.
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  • I was reading about a dude with 400,000 domains the other day. He is a self made media mogul & only started in 2001.

    I think combining domaining with site flipping is a winner strategy.

    PS: I'm pretty sure Willie Crawford & Armand Moran both own about 10,000 domains each.
  • This whole thing with domain flipping...I understand that people make money in it. But, don't people realize that the domain name itself doesn't really uh, matter that much? I guess you can really cash in by capitalizing on corporate ignorance, or whatever, but as soon as it becomes common knowledge that you can simply use different variations of your company name as the domain...

    That's how many businesses do it these days. Ex. A brick and mortar business called "Java Joes" decides that they want to get their own website. They want "www.javajoes.com" but they find out that some ******* already registered that name, most likely some domain investment company. The owner of Java Joes calls up the domain company who registered it, and finds out that they want $25,000 for the domain. Java Joe owner says, "You're insane," hangs up, and searches for www.javajoesLA.com" (for java joes los angeles, for example) and sees that it's available. Java Joe owner says, "I'll make it work" and spends $10 on the domain.

    See what I'm saying ya'll?
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    • Meanwhile, the guy that owns coffee.com may make $100,000 a year just from type-in traffic.

      As far as "not mattering", if you were a big company like General Mills, which would you want on a billboard, magazines, newspapers, radio, TV ads:

      coffee.com
      javajoesLA.com

      For online traffic, not much difference. For converting off-line traffic to online is a whole different ball game...If you are on a radio show promoting your new site, which do you think people will remember, THEN type into a browser?
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  • I thought they were brining in a whole new system soon so you can have any extension you want. EG abc.apples abc.bacon etc

    Pretty sure they will do that soon. It gets complicated, subdomain.domain.extension
  • I am interested in this course as well. Does anyone know the cost? Also, if anyone has purchased, it would be greatly appreciated if you can provide a review. Thank you!
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    • I just watched the sales pitch today.

      They want $97.
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  • I never heard this type of technique before but it seems great... i would try it soon
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  • I've replied a few times here, but my replies always get deleted.

    Anyway this is a continuation of my wildly successful WSO.

    ...If any Warriors have any questions please feel free to PM me personally with any questions, comments, or suggestions on how to make the product even better.

    Hope to see everyone on the weekly calls!

    Zach
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    • Zach, I sent you a PM earlier today, please respond when you get the chance.

      Thanks,
      Paul
  • I saw Zach's original WSO. Just wanted to say: It's quality stuff.
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    • Appreciate it.

      Everything in that product has been updated and added onto and, like Ryan talks about in the sales video, weekly calls + new modules + new methods + and my personal support.
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  • I got the email from Ryan and obvioously I looked at the video.

    Thing that struck me the most was the Sam Brannan story, selling shovels to greedy gold diggers. Zach, I dont mean to offend you, but arent you trying to sell me a shovel?

    How big is this pie and with all the sales, how much of the pie is available for everybody? Wont this tecnique just eventually flood the market?


    Dont get me wrong, im extremely curious about the product, but theres not much more I can do apart from enter my details and buy your product?


    Cheers

    Steve
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    • I'll make sure I get to it tonight, I have quite a few.

      Most people have gone with lower number sales (for their first few) because I tell them to in order to build confidence, etc.

      People like Ryan's employees wife sold her first domain for almost $1,500. And I thought the domain name SUCKED, lol. So it's all about the method you choose and what you want to sell for.

      I just told people $297 and that's why so many sales are for $297.

      You can buy as many as you want to make work.

      Hey Steve,

      Every day hundreds of thousands of domains are bought and sold. And it's been like that since the early 2000's.

      The fact is without domain names there'd be no internet as we know it. The potential in the methods I talk about are HUGE in terms of how many domains are out there and how much profit potential there is. I mean, for one method that I just added today which is one of my favorites, there's probably a few hundred thousand at least GOOD domain name variations that haven't yet been registered. Probably quite a few more than that really.

      Obviously I can't go into much detail. But think about how many sites are on the internet, and think about how many domains there are. People all paid at least $5-10 for those domain names.

      If everyone who bought the course bought 10 domain names today there wouldn't even make the smallest difference in overall domain sales for today.

      BUT we are going to limit the number of copies sold, not because of any worries whatsoever of saturation, but because I enjoy not working a whole lot and want to be able to help people (like I did with the WSO) on a personal level. And if we have 100,000 students I just can't do that.

      Hope that helps and feel free to PM me.

      Cheers!
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  • Zach, there's some issue with the ordering process on your sales page. I keep getting an error message when I try to purchase. Perhaps you should look into it. I can only imagine the sales you'll miss if it isn't resolved.
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    • So would you recommend this product to other WF members?
  • Hey Zach, I sent you a PM this morning, please reply when you get the chance.

    Cheers,
    Paul
  • Why are people paying for this?

    It's invisible.

    Don't choose high profile domains like virgin.co or cocacola.co (just examples - probably already purchased by the companies involved), because clever cloggs have had their fingers burnt in the past when courts have forced them to handover the domains involved to the company they are trying to rip off.

    This money spinning scheme is a minefield.
  • I am a domaineer. It is way fun and profitable. Interesting virtual development career that always allows for creativity. Zach's work is straightforward. This is common sense stuff that is doable. I do not believe there will be a glut on the market. I believe the drive to the bottom will allow quality virtual real estate to stand out. Go to flippa, buy and sell a few sites, help our virtual economy and add this to your portfolio of businesses. Learn this stuff and it will add to the rest of what you do. And the tools these days are off the chain. So get in now and you will thank Zach and all of us when you make your first sale.
  • Yeah, well I bought it this morning. Going through the modules now. I'll let you know what I think.

    Indigo Jack, if this program sucks I'll chalk it up as a $97 lesson. No big deal.

    edited to add: looks like a work in progress. Video module aren't up yet. PDF's and audio are.
  • I'm giggling. Just bought a couple of great domain names. I couldn't believe they were available! One of them is in a niche I write about often. And the other is something that started making news this morning. Since it's related to the sex industry I think it will do well. I just can't help giggling about this!

    Anyway, the site appears to be in development. But the content is good. There are lots of action steps in there. Zach doesn't waste a lot of time with fluff and filler. And he does offer a money back guarantee.

    So far I'm pleased.

    I'll let you guys know when, if and how fast I make my investment back.
  • ^ So glad you like it.

    And so sorry about the big module "The Next Level" not being up yet.

    I e-mailed tech the PDF and hour long video late last night and it still hasn't been put up.

    I'll get in touch again today with them and try and get it all up and running.

    Also if you navigate around and read over the 150 comments so far you'll see more than a few people have already made their first sales (some more than that).

    One has a few 1k deals in the making already!
  • RE: the videos that you can't stop etc.

    what these guys should be doing is cookiing the visitor.... so when the visitor comes back to the site again, they get the video with an instant buy button and the controls.

    they've already seen the video, know whats up

    this makes it easier for the visitor also.

    i'm sure you gotta test it, but i have a feeling it will do better.

    just sayin'
  • Hey Zach, PM sent.

    Thanks,

    Michael
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    • Hey Zach,

      Pm'd you yesterday; when you get a chance could you reply please.

      Many thanks,

      Michael
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  • Interesting problem I'm having.....

    I bought a domain yesterday using Domain Scalping that's getting traffic in the thousands! That's never happened to me and I feel panicky! I've got time to kill this morning at Strabucks while I wait for my car to be worked on. Guess I'll plow through the rest of the DS material and figure out if I should keep the domain or sell while it's hot.
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    • You seem to be having good luck! Ive also got a couple of domains that ive just put onto GDaddy, Ive as well as sorted out my SEDO account.

      This is really an interesting industry.

      Is this domain a new domain or a pre-owned one?
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  • Ive made 3 months salaries in 2 weeks
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    • Wow, Steve! Great stuff!

      Have you posted that in the members area? I'm sure people would like to hear that.
    • Hi Stephen
      I can't PM you as I only have a few posts, so hopefully this is a way of contacting you?

      I just found this product thread today. I know it's a couple of years old but would you still recommend this product?

      I just read an up to date positive review frorm January 2013 by the way from a respected internet business review site (not an affiliate site!).
      Thanks
      Gaz
  • Hey Zach,

    I did, I must admit that I haven't been on there in a while, Ive been to busy. Ill have to pop in
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    • We have a call tomorrow afternoon so feel free to pop in.
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  • I bought the course and thought it covered domaining well... I work for a specific client doing SEO and they have told me they get 2-3 emails a week from people selling domains from $350 and up.. so I do think more people are entering this market because of courses like this, but there are just so many possibilities that it's an unlimited opportunity.

    You can easily buy a keyword traffic domain, put up a blog and some content and then get ranked #1 for that phrase. The value then goes way up plus you can Lease the domain for a couple hundred a month. (I think I read leasing domains somewhere in the Warrior Forum)
  • Thanks.
  • Hi Zach, I sent you a PM re the course.
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    • This Domain Scalping thread hasn't been updated for over 2 weeks. There were a handful of folks who bought it and said they would report back whether or not it was making them real money, real, honest success stories

      So far I've only seen one or two quick one-liners claiming things like "I made 3 months salary in 2 weeks," but no real in-depth reviews about it or in-depth explanations of how people are making good money with it....so I thought I'd see if anyone has any updates...

      Seth
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  • There doesn't seem to be any success stories here. Or perhaps folks who bought have acted upon the course?
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    • What I wanted to find out, but didn't - although perhaps I missed it, there WAS a lot of info - is how to find expiring domain names with PR value without a lot of manual effort.

      Anyone know how to do that?

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      Crane Company Columbia MO
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  • You might want to stay away from this one. I tried the "Flippa" Method and made nothing at all.

    The promotional video says you you only spend $20 for 2 or 3 domains, but that doesn't include the costs incurred try to sell them.

    While I got a couple of domains at a very reasonable price, I wound up spending another $20 getting it listed on Flippa and then spent another $15 at Fiverr trying to drive some traffic to the damn listing. Why? Because I wasn't getting any traffic from Flippa.

    So when it was all done, I spent over $40 on one domain and not one freakin' bid ... and I am not even going to bother with the other domain. Hell, now I am going to have to build websites and get some ranking before I can make anything on these domains.

    No, it didn't cost much money, but it cost a helluva lot of time and aggravation .... just don't see much upside with selling domains... I would really pass on this
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    • Last week I contacted Zach and asked a question about Domain Scalping but got no response.

      I think customer support is also very important next to the product itself and I wouldn't want to buy a product with poor customer service.
  • That doesn't surprise me at all.

    I have to say that this is one of the MOST UNPRODUCTIVE programs that I have come across in a long time.

    Usually when I try something new, I can profit from it a little or at the very least, use something from it - not this one ... I'm really surprised that Ryan even has his name attached to this
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    • If you have any questions you can always feel free to contact me here and I can take a look at your listings. No where do I say to use fiver, not sure why you spent money there.

      ...Also in the calls (that are recorded and in the members area) I give a lot of tips on the Flippa method and give a warning to it's saturation.

      The Flippa Method, that it sounds like you didn't have much success with, is a very tiny portion of the whole course. There are plenty of methods that cost next to nothing to do and have very high success rates.

      Any Warriors can feel free to contact myself DIRECTLY here. I answer every PM I get.

      Contacting the help desk does NOT go to me directly. It goes to Ryan's support team who have the course and are supposed to answer every question, and if they can't, ask my opinion or give me the customers e-mail address.

      I've gotten no e-mails from support so unfortunately I have no idea what you asked if they contacted me.

      I see you PMed me late at night on the 18th. I don't come online much on the weekends to try and take a break and get re-charged for Monday. I'll reply now and you can feel free to contact me through here anytime.

      Have you looked at comments in the members area or listened to the calls?

      Not only does this program have the LOWEST refund rate of any of Ryan's recent products it also has had some huge success stories.

      One Warrior quit his job:



      Another made $19,000 in a few months, within the first three days one person in the members area sold a domain for $2,000 and on every call we've had a success story of some sort.

      ...On the last one we had a girl who sold her first domain for $500 after a few setbacks that recouped the course, domain selling cost and put money back into her pocket. She persisted and made a great amount of money and her next flip was 1000% easier.

      It sounds like you've tried one method, haven't asked my opinion to see what you're doing wrong and haven't tried any other method (that I encourage people to start with).

      Over 500 Warriors bought the basic version of this, only 7 refunded and there are pages upon pages of glowing reviews.

      If you want my opinion on what you did wrong, or what I'd suggest you start doing just send me a PM.

      Cheers,

      Zach
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  • Another point that I think speaks VOLUMES to the product is not the people who quit their jobs, the many people who made their first sales or the glowing reviews both in the members areas and on this forum.

    ...It's the fact that two wives of guys who work in Ryan's office are making THEIR livings with this method. Hell even some of the guys IN Ryan's office are flipping domains on the side.

    Ryan, in the video on DomainScalping.com talked about one wife of a guy in his office who sold her first domain for over a thousand (forget the exact amount now) and now she's staying at home flipping domains and looking after the kids.

    Another guy e-mailed me just last week saying his wife decided to take up domain flipping since she's pregnant and wants something easy, very profitable and has a super flexible schedule.

    It's no secret that Ryan puts out a lot of "mini-products". I have almost all of them and there all very good. But it speaks volumes that the guys on Ryan's team CHOOSE to go with my course, even though they have access to ALL the other ones (including the 2k ones), because they listen in on the calls, see the members area feedback and realize just how profitable this is. So out of all the different ways to make money online they choose domain flipping... and for good reason.

    Even Ryan and Perry refer to it while buying domains for recent products they've done and as a little side business. That's one of the biggest compliments I could ever get.

    Cheers,

    Zach

    P.S - We could close down DS tomorrow and it wouldn't matter to me. I barely make anything off of it now. Even the month it launched I made more flipping domains than I did from the launch of the product.

    I defend the product because people have had fantastic results with it and I make my living from it so I get upset when I see people bashing something that clearly works, they just didn't put the time in and didn't even get my opinion on what they got wrong and how they can improve in the future when I'm on here Monday-Friday answering whatever questions/concerns folks may have.
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    • Hey Zach,

      thanks for replying! You seem to be one of the honest guys.
      Your product seems promising, I will definitely check it out and see what you have to offer.

      Thanks
  • The product is OK. I mean, all of their techniques make sense, but the tactics can easily get over saturated
  • The product has a TON of good exciting content.

    It looks good on paper. But when you actually try it, you realize that it's NOT a sustainable business.

    YOu have to keep buying new inventory which eats into profits and this idea that you can consistently sell domains at 1k-5k+ a pop is exaggerrated. I wanted to believe.

    I sent out tons of letters offering quality .com geo-profession domains and I used a lot of good copywriting techniques and nada. One guy almost bought something for $225.

    As for listing domains on Sedo/Afternic/Namepros/DDForum, waste of time!

    Buying tons of quality domains and getting PPC traffic via Smartnames/Sedo/etc.? 17 cents a month won't pay the bills.

    As for seoing a domain and then trying to rent or lease it out? Not that easy. If you can rank the domain on page #1 of Google for a keyword, then chances are, it hardly gets any traffic thus it has virtually zero value. That said, trying to get it ranked for first page of Google where it would get traffic is going to cost you lots of time and money and then you have to hope and pray your target market (which would be limited) will buy.

    Now if you're retired, or just want to play around, then yeah, maybe this is worth it. But not really possible as a full time profession. Browse the guys who are the whiz's in this and they're doing domaining part-time or essentially selling web design/seo.

    I know a guy who has million-dollar plus domains and premium domains, the Chuck Norris of the biz and he's constantly having to discount his domains to get people to buy. So domains aren't exactly going up in value, if anything they're coming down in value. He believes the future of domaining is simply buy a premium domain and develop the site into a full fledged biz.

    I know you don't want to hear this but it's the truth.
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  • I would also venture to say that maybe this worked a few years back. Remember, companies don't base their names off of showercurtains.com. No, look around you, companies use their owner's last name (quite often) (krogers, Randalls, Jared's, Zale, Heinz, Firestone, etc.) as the name of the company! Or they take part of their last name and add another word to it such as "Wal-Mart". The brand managers and ceos will go ballistic if you try to get them to do base their company on "generic domain".com. Sure, you can get some people to buy but it's like selling ice to eskimos.
  • so this is definitely something to stay away from?
  • Method might be old and done and yes the figures could have been exaggerated...but there are still guys making money with this. A domain is only worth the money if the name is wanted and the other party is willing to pay it. This is more offline suited. SEDO and flippa are not recommended for newbies.

    This is great course for a newbie and the material is worth the money. I've made the money back 100x plus more.
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