My second day with Kajabi. The Good The Bad and The UGLY!!

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Ok so i decided to take good ole cousin Andy up on his free trial.

I like Andy's videos and I learn a lot from the way he markets.

I figured since it's a FREE TRIAL what do I have to lose except a couple days playing around with a new toy.

If it sucks I'll just cancel before the trial expires.

If it's awesome and worth the price I'll stay a member!

The trial is 14 days and I'm looking to get a brand new clickbank product site up and running within that time all done in Kajabi.

So right after I sign up for the FREE TRIAL I dive right in.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

Wow this looks way different that I thought it would. Much more complicated .. I passed this off as "it's just new I'm sure it's simple"
Which it seems to be after playing around with it for a while.

1st Problem

Tired to design a sales page and the sales page designer link took me to an error page.

Solution

Contacted support the wrote me back within a few hours and told me to clear my browers cookies cache etc.

Did that.. Sales creation link works like a charm! WOO HOO!!



By default your links are titled myproduct.kajabi.com and you have to manually edit your DNS and cName files inside your hosting account.

If you don't know what this means .. NEITHER DID I.

Luckily they provide a bit of info..

So I tried it out.. don't know if I got it right.

Because..

3rd Problem

Any page I create takes me to a "something went wrong page" when I try to view or preview it.

Emailed support this morning. No response yet.

4th Problem

Trying to integrate clickbank.

There's a button that says click here to integrate with clickbank.

Which takes you to a page that says

And gives you a URL.

But I don't know what a notification box is so I have no idea where to enter that.

It also says

And it gives you an API key but I don't know where the "secret" section of clickbank is so I don't know where to enter it at

I even went on click bank and there's a couple different places to put different API keys none of which is labeled "secret"

And it says


Except I'm not using 1shoppingcart.. I'm using clickbank.. so is that supposed to say clickbank? Or did they just put that there for 1shoppingcart users.. or?

Anyway.. I emailed support about that this morning as well. No response yet.

So that's where I'm at right now.. trying to do it myself and not really able to. I have the will and the desire .. took them up on their trial .. I'm trying to implement asap and just sitting around waiting on support.

In Summary

If you're looking for the push button magic bullet solution.. this ain't it.

I'm sure I could spend several hours and teach myself all the answers to these problems using google and forums like this one.. but I don't want to pay $97 $197 or $297 a month to learn how to decode a PUSH BUTTON SYSTEM lol

And I certainly don't want to HIRE some one to set up something that's supposed to be point and click. (Kind of defeats the purpose right)

I'm sure it's great for more advanced programmers/techies etc..

Hopefully support emails me back soon so I can get some RESULTS with this thing because I think it's really cool I just don't know how to use it.

Overall

I'm pretty disappointed but still remaining hopeful.

*EDIT* I can't even spell the title right! lol Maybe that's why I can't get Kajabi to work for me! lol
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  • If it makes you feel better, I have had a couple of clients tell me the same thing. Wanted to give it a whirl, but don't plan on continuing with it.

    You never know until you try and it definitely won't be for everyone.

    Thanks,

    John
  • I got bored in the sales vid and switched off. Is there really anything more to this than some video squeeze page templates, a member site plugin and some CDN hosting? That's what it looked like from my (ultra quick) once over...
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    • You mean like finding out what other marketers are targeting niche wise? :rolleyes:

      Not saying that's the case, but when all the trial periods end and X number of folks decide not to spring for the monthly payments...who has access to the data at that point?

      Will any of them get Kajabified?

      Market research. It's what drives this niche...

      ~Bill
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  • If the above two comments are true then i am truely gobsmacked as to why so many so called 'big promoters' jumped on board without even testing it.

    Every program has initial problems i agree, but no way I would promote something unless I know that it works well and is useful for my memberlist. I for one miss the truely honest testimonials list owners would send out rather then the scripted rubbish we see most of the time today.

    I thank you both for some alternative comments
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    • Great thread. I was looking at it yesterday and to be honest, anything slightly complicated turns me off. That said, a successful colleague reckons it's the bees knees.

      As far as why the big promoters go... I suspect they promoted it for the moolah. What else?

      However, I can see where And is coming from in trying to automate the marketing funnel from pre-launch to sale.

      Look forward to more feedback.
    • Thanks so much for this. I was really committed to doing the trial, but with just those things that you have explained would have made my blood boil, since Kajabi's claim is getting past the techie complications. Thats what I am looking for.

      I am now leaning to just hiring someone on this forum to set me up a kajabi-like solution and continue to host my videos on Amazon using EVP. If any Warriors would like this kind of work, please PM me so I have you on file when I launch my next video series.

      Dave I hope you update this as your experience progresses with Kajabi.
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    • What bothers me even more is that, in relation with one of them has recently posted about promoting 'rubbish'. It seems to be a trend to stand out, however alot of 'them' still promote the same old rubbish.

      (see the post here)

      Right now, most of the problems you're facing can be due to your lack of technical skills. HOWEVER, that's not something that anyone should hold against you. The creators of Kajabi should have thought of that - resulting in the creation of a FAQ or manual.

      Another issue might be the usability-part of the website. I know from experience on working on large IT-projects - that most developers/marketers/entrepreneurs forget or find it hard to keep the end-consumer in mind while setting up the user-interface.

      In this case you can easily call the User Interface pretty sloppy. And to make it worse, since you had to clear cookies - there might even be some heavy coding errors in the underlaying programs. A tested client-sided environment shouldn't develop such issues when performing such 'normal' tasks.

      I haven't tried Kajabi. But when I read the post of the OP, I've made up my mind. If there are so many errors/bugs/whatever in an official release of the program, then you don't deserve to get any customers.
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    • The 'Big' promoters like Frank Kern and others who're promoting HAVE tested it. Their product launches were run on it, and we all saw how massive those launches were. If that isn't testing the hell out of it...then what is?

      Like anything, it'll take a bit of time to get a hang of everything it has to offer.

      I can bet the vast majority of people who try it will love it. Its not for everyone.
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  • Kajabi marketing video seem awesome & now we have warrior members tested it out...

    Is it really such complicated to use Kajabi?

    Any more warriors who have tested & wanna give some feedback here?
  • i'm with jason.. (whats up bro? long time no see)

    99% of the stuff you're having issues with, are super simple things.... in fact, i think everything would work if you got over your fear of setting those things up and just did it.

    cmon. google it and get it done.

    sounds like you're just a lil scared to get stuff done.... we've all been there.

    kudos for trying it out.... i mean thats something 99% of the ppl here wont do.

    the tech issues are super simple to fix.... and the platform looks really awesome. like anything, it takes a bit to get used to and comfortable.

    trust me, frank wouldn't promote it for the money.... he's got more than enough.

    he promoted it because the system kicked serious butt for him and his customers loved the course he had using it.
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      Right .. I DID google it.. and CALLED GoDaddy and had them walk me through it.

      I'm STILL getting error pages so I don't know if the dns and cname are set up correctly or if the error is coming from somewhere else.

      I'm guessing that the errors messages are for some other reason because GoDaddy staff is trained in dns etc.

      Also... I never said that this stuff isn't simple. I understood the basic dns stuff as soon as the guy walked me through it.

      I wouldn't buy a push button simple product just to have to learn how simple dns is.

      And I don't think the average customer wants to have to call his hosting company for a product that is being called push button simple ESPECIALLY when that product still gets error messages after a hosting professional walk you though the set up process.

      They could have paid a couple hundred bucks and had videos made for all this rather than just assuming because THEY(and you) think it's simple that the average customer would too.

      But yeah.. I see the possibilities and like the idea of it so I'm sticking with it.. which probably makes me the above average customer.

      The thing is A LOT of people won't want to stick with it because there wasn't a disclaimer that says .. *by push button simple we mean if you understand dns, cname, api codes, and are willing to call your hosting company, google things and try and decipher tech talk and/or hire a tech team or wait on our support team to email you back and hope you understand what they mean. If not google it yourself and learn to speak "tech nerd" and set it up yourself without really just pushing a button.
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  • Actually, as the "tech staff" behind the PLF3 portal I DIDN'T know how to change the DNS.. but then again I'm only technical enough to be dangerous so all I did was follow their directions and did it

    This is a pretty big thread and I didn't go thru each post but it looks like most people are just starting out with the free trial and are in clicking around and testing things out. But I thought I would share a my personal view for what it's worth since I've been using the system since we rolled out Product Launch Formula a few months ago.

    1. There are lots of people in the IM niche that are MUCH more technical than me.. my specialty is operations and content. So, for that reason, I NEED the simple, push button features to efficiently get my job done or I end up spending time finding contractors and outsourcing and that takes more work.

    2. For the above reason, I take the following position: I'm sure there are plenty of people that jumped on board but haven't fully determined what you actually want to DO with the system.

    It's good to get in there and fudge around with it and come up with your initial thoughts but it's really important to think strategically on HOW you will use the system and that will essentially guide you in your decision in the platform you will need to do that.

    Foundation is key-

    Do you already have a product that you want to re-create in Kajabi?
    -Are you starting from scratch?
    -What level of interaction do you want to have with your customers?
    -What level of interaction do you want them to have with eachother?
    -What is your end result- ongoing sales? perpetual launches?
    -What assets (shopping cart/list host) do you already have? What assets do you need?
    -How do you want to roll out your content? Is it all at once? Timed? Can everyone see everything?
    -Do you have a team? Are you tech savvy? Do you like to do it yourself? Do you like to be a one person show?
    -Do you need the full system or just a delivery mechanism?
    -Where are you in business, just starting out or been successfully growing?

    You have to have the end goal in your mind on what you need otherwise no system can perform to your expectations.

    3. My likes- Dislikes are based on my experiences using other scripts such as aMember, Wishlist, Membergate, Wordpress, lot's of various plugins and of course now, Kajabi.

    I could go into more depth but for now I'll just list some basic points:

    1. The simple login: I don't have to flip between amember/wordpress and the amember administrative panel to look stuff up. This saves me oodles of time and not to count frustration with login/passwords. This is one or two clicks for me now.

    2. Quick Setup: I can get content pages done in a matter of minutes and full portals done in under 30 minutes.

    3. I LOVE the new level it has taken with customers. We can see them, watch their comments, watch their interaction with others, interact with them. Yes, I know, you can put other platforms together with similar features but it's just so darn easy with Kajabi and everything is one click away- For example, I can see someone's comment to a video, click on their name and see what other questions or comments they have made, can click again to see the behind the scenes "office notes" on an individual from customer service, click again and be seeing their Twitter stream. It really does take the personal interaction and connection you have with customers to a different level.

    4. Sort of covered above, but the one click from an admin level to the end user view makes fixes and changes uber streamlined instead of having to deal with protection cookies and barriers/logins.

    5. The way you can add teaser or preview text is easy and just a matter of typing but adds value to the end users ease.

    6. Appearance- Graphics and web design are not my strength, so I like that I can easily customize colors with just a click, add a header logo with a simple upload.

    7. The simple use of "User Levels"- I created one project that now has 8 different user levels and I can pick and choose what content pages they see and what content pages they see but can't access and what they don't even see at all - yes, that's with one click.

    8. User administration- seeing how many times someone has logged in - that's in lots of the other systems but you can add in office notes, see their last login date, how often they comment and what they say all on one screen. This is great not only for a time saver but also if you ever need to dispute a charge back (you have proof how active they were) or other administrative pieces.

    9.Attachements- I like the consistency of attachments on the content pages- end users know where they are, how many they are- this is my personal preference but I like the icons and file names and the point, click, upload means I can get about 20 documents uploaded in 10 minutes.

    10. Videos- I only use MP4's and I upload direct into the content pages and that's it. That is a much cleaner process for me then in the past when I had to use EZS3, create players, copy- paste- embed. The biggest mistakes I made at the begining was try to upload files with spaces in the name (always causes an issue with S3) and leaving the content page before it finished uploading.

    11. The new feature of scheduling posts can be done in many of the other platforms, but again, I like that it's just an extra box to select in the content set up and you can publish it, keep it hidden as a draft, or schedule the date for release.

    12. The Evergreen feature- again simple and a nice option depending on the product.

    Now.. While I have stuck with this system even through the bugs and working without lots of the features that are now there and taking into consideration some of the new features, there are still areas that leave room for improvement.

    1. I can't add images into content without it being hosted elsewhere.
    2. I don't like that end users can "Answer" each other in comments- I think that should be something Administrators/Moderators only can do. That is a personal preference though and not a system error.
    3. Limitations in page layout- videos will show up below the text and the attachments at the bottom.
    4. If your a control freak- the inability to control the "plumbing"- but if you like that stuff, go do it, I like that I don't have to worry about permissions, ftping, directories, css and all that other stuff so it lets me focus on what's important the CONTENT.
    5. The funnels aren't quiet as simple as I thought they would be.. but I have to admit, once I started working with it, it got simplier.
    6. Backups- I have the utmost faith that the Kajabi team won't let our site disappear but let's admit that all your content should be backed up (like any other hosted service) and it's a bit more time intensive since I make sure I have a copy of all the videos, content and attachments for every page- it's not like a simple "back up site to x location" and they email you when it's done.
    7. The forum feature could be more robust to allow threads easier to follow.
    8. Private Messaging- you can't private message that leaves me emailing people direct or having customer service do it.

    So that is my basic overview (but a very long post, sorry) from using the system- and no you won't find an affiliate link in here

    -Kristen Arnold
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  • If you guys want to figure out how to use Kajabi, I built a course on it which you can get for free. There isn't a Kajabi affiliate link in there either, just wanted to help people out.

    http://howtokajabi.kajabi.com/sales_pages/167
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      Do you show how to integrate with clickbank?

      Troubleshoot error pages?

      *EDIT* Also when you say there's no affiliate links for Kajabi in there do you mean on that site or in your email follow up?
  • Both, it's completely free, I've put this together as a list building program, enjoy and distribute.
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      You have aff links in your follow up. No big deal. I think that's a smart way for people to see how Kajabi works without buying it .. then when they see it if they like it they'll buy from you. Smart!

      PS I signed up but can't find clickbank intergreation "how to" only 1shopping cart. Also I can't find a "how to" on troubleshooting error pages.

      Over all the videos are very well done and informative.
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  • dave keep at it dude... it'll be worth it.

    maybe you just have a new product in your hands.... HOW to setup kajabi for beginners.

    Edit: someone's already got the same type of idea. kudos :-)
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      Thanks for the support! I'm going to stick with it for the full 14 days. If it works by then .. I'm in!

      If not.. no worries. I'll probably check it out again later when I do my next product.. hopefully by then it's be tech-newbie proof! lol
  • i've been using it - 3 things that are worrying

    1 You can't upload a jpeg you have to host it elsewhere and embed the url
    2. Videos have been taking 12 hrs or never appearing at all after upload
    3. You can't easily make text appear below a video on a post only above

    I won't go on but could...
  • If you have to deal with DNS and CNAME records that does complicate things a lot depending on your hosting and the person using it. I've been hosting myself for about 7 or 8 years now (between dedicated servers and VPS's) and I can tell you that the whole CNAME thing had me mystified at first and I consider myself decent on technical stuff, I had to read a few tutorials to get things straightened out (this was several years ago). Also some people don't have access on shared hosting accounts to CNAME and DNS records so it would involve speaking to your host for every site you build to create the necessary records (if they even do that).

    It doesn't sound super easy for non-technical people, but slapping together a whole bunch of scripts and plugins to get the same effect isn't either. Everything has it's pros and cons. Personally I don't need Kajabi (or being 100% hosted on there servers that's a deal breaker for me), but I am on the fence between Easy Video Player and JVPress, I guess it depends on the pricing Easy Video Player comes out with now that they are relaunching.
  • Honestly, when you start using it, it is frustrating. It's easy to use, but there are some bugs. After like 2 weeks (beta tester) I got it working JUST fine minus a couple minor annoyances. Not ready for prime time, BUT if you really need it, it works. I think many jumped the gun and were expecting it to be something it is not, and post negative things. That's not to say they don't deserve some negative feedback for saying this was out of beta.... just saying that some of the harshness is unfair, being that you CAN make this work just fine, as you have seen it with the gurus.
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  • hang in there guys, i'm sure they're fixing whatever bugs are in there.

    wouldnt worry about the 'cookie cutter-ness' of the landing pages etc.

    My landing page is ALL OVER THE INTERNET (the 'warning' one i did for kern that you've seen everywhere) and yet it still crushes for me.
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    • I am not worrying about the "cookie-cutter" issue as much as having basic functionality that was described in the video actually work.

      The problem I see is a lack of flexibility. The funnel events must start with an Event and not a Squeeze or Sales page meaning you have to create an event that you cannot have a Optin box automatically inserted. The base funnel page link goes to nowhere when created as well, meaning you have to create 2 items before you can create a squeeze page with an auto insert of the Optin box without any customization. I finally got a response on why I cannot seem to get my HTML to work in the HTML edtor and the response was: We are testing to fix this problem now. Please send all code you have tried to use.

      I am not saying this to bash because I want the system to work because I want a centralized setup. The lack of integration between Projects can keep you from simply dropping in Memberships to work with other Memberships. After test driving Nanacast, I found you need to have more HTML skills, but it has so much in terms of flexibility that you can literally do anything you want to do. If you use Wordpress as your Membership content hub, you can use the WYSIWYG Post Editor and never worry about technical skills for Page development. If you are an advanced user, this system has everything you could ever want and you can consolidate and mix and match products.

      I am torn because I want the features of Kajabi, but Nanacast has 1000 More options for less money.

      Mike
  • Currently I am in the thick of all of this. There haven't been many comments in the support section, and there aren't too many happy people.

    I was having login issues from the get go. I figured it out, but didn't get a support response for a few days. Had I still had problems logging in I would be pretty upset.

    While I have no problem paying the monthly fee I still want to get as much as I can out of it for free.

    For those who have figured out how to use it despite the many bugs LOVE LOVE LOOOOVE it.

    There are many like myself excited to see this when it is actually working.

    Until then I am using my usual methods.
  • Hey everyone,

    First of all, I am not associated with Kajabi in anyway.

    I bought it on launch day.

    A HUGE reason for the disappointed or lack of enthusiasm about Kajabi both on the support forum and here is because of the nature of the product.

    I liken it a lot to flashy Wordpress themes. You go, look at the examples, and they are all so flashy and drool-getting. But then when you buy, and install, you have this blank white canvas that looks NOTHING like what you wanted.

    Now some, more experienced people, who buy the theme will realize that it takes customization to get it to look as good as the examples. But the vast majority, who buy on the examples, think they just got fooled.

    ESPECIALLY when they try and customize it and it turns out to require some design, coding, etc knowledge that they don't have.

    That's what's happening right now... people buy off of the List Control, PLF, and Outsource Force examples and forget that what made them all look so good was the detail in design and videos done by these guys.

    Getting your site, like theirs, will require design knowledge and even some coding.

    Now once you do it once, although it may cost a bit, you'll know how to do it forever and for all your sites down the road. Just like with anything else, there is going to be a learning curve associated with it.

    I'm going to use Kajabi for upcoming products that I have floating around my head (not sure if I'll make them or not). BUT I won't be using this for any niches outside of internet marketing until I get my coder to comb through some things.

    I realize why they have it self-hosted, as I would have it if I built it. But I don't like the knowledge of my niches they could get if they wanted to. This is why I'm getting my coder to look into it; to try and see what things, if they choose to, they could see and what things they couldn't.

    Bottom line is you need to have a current project, or future project, before you get Kajabi. That should be common sense... but as with any product most people never get around to even looking at it.

    Also be prepared to shell out a few hundred if you want it to look good. You'll need a designer to do a few things to make it look like List Control or Video Boss. And you may need someone more technically inclined, if you aren't, to show you how to set things up.

    Again, all things I'm more than willing to do and knew I'd need before buying. But I'm sure many did think that you could make it all look fantastic by just pushing a few buttons.

    Cheers,

    Zach
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    • I am sure in some people's cases that is indeed true, but the issues I have experienced are in fact based solely on the base functionality supplied and promised by Kajabi.

      If you promise push button injections of things like Optin boxes and Video, you should be able to use the system as prescribed. Not wait over 48 hours for a video to render and have nothing happen. Or have the Theme Editor not work until you submit a Support request.

      I should be able to use simple HTML to center content I have input into the HTML box in the WYSIWYG Editor.

      I should be able to simply adjust where the Facebook comments get centered or aligned left or right on a page, etc.

      Have you tested all of these functions and had them work 100% to your satisfaction? I am genuinely curious as to how this system has worked for everyone so far. I mean a basic integration like an Affiliate Program would be nice right out of the box as well. For a lower price, the Nanacast example I used above, has this fully integrated into the centralized system, along with being able to use multiple products and memberships and integrate them across project boundaries.

      When you are talking about using it to consolidate your business and centralize, the cost savings aspect needs to be a part of it as well. I am sure they spent $5000 creating the sales video alone. Some of that money should have gone into more product development.

      I just worry too about the Delavo example. When John Delavera offered Delavo (another centralized system based off the original JV Manager), he gave users a base product with nothing in it, but then when you wanted increased functionality, you had to keep buying and buying plugins to get it to do what you needed. Soon, the cost to benefit ratio dropped way off the board, but you had your entire business wrapped up in this product and you are asking yourself: How do I move my business out of this now?? You get stuck. Then John Delavera dropped his full support for the product and handed it to Mark Joiner. Where is Delavo now?

      Delavo

      They don't even have a fully working home page anymore. As a Marketer, I have a responsibility to my customers and part of that isn't just my product, it is being consistent. Your reputation is everything in this business and I consider putting my customers first as one of the main parts of my Mission Statement. So I take every purchase I make seriously.

      I want this to work and I hope it is a scaling issue, but as the sales video says: This is a Product Created by "Marketers" so I fully expect the Upsell process to hit soon, but my internal hope is that I am wrong about this. I am looking for the right centralized solution for my business and have yet to find it. Kajabi could be it if the wrinkles are worked out fast because on paper it fits my business model perfectly.

      Mike
  • The usability issues were a major turn-off for me too. It's just way too complicated. The sales funnels thing? Good luck figuring that out.

    MOD NOTE: EDITED TO REMOVE LINK TO COMPETING PRODUCT
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  • Started a trial today

    Got to say, LOVED the whole concept watching the sales presentation from Andy. He sure is great at what he does.

    Kajabi sounded like near perfection for some projects I have going on currently and some I'm about to start.

    BUT... it just doesn't quite seem right. Now I'm not saying it's bad in any sense and in fact what I would say is that if anyone spends a few days playing with it it will seem easy to use ( Just my prediction after 1 day using it )

    On the flip side, maybe they have brought this customer reaction expressed in this thread on themselves. It was positioned VERY heavily as a 'push a button for that' solution, and well yes there are some of them features... Just not quite as advertised.

    All in all, I'm VERY excited about using Kajabi and what it can bring to my business. It just needs to sort everything and catch up to how it is being advertised. Still an awesome product 100% !

    Dean
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    Thanks for the review. It soudns like an interesting program and it would be great if it works. Hopefully it's just the glitches as with many new or relatively new products and services.
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      Your welcome. I'm emailing back and forth with supprt to ge tthe issues resolved. They seem helpful.
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      Ok so support and i have gone back and forth and now my site isn't going to error pages..

      The software is becoming WAY easier to use now that I can play around with it..

      I'll keep you all posted!
  • I bought Kajabi and was pretty excited about it too.

    I rarely buy any of the guru's stuff but this looked like something that would actually help my business.

    First off after playing with it for a few days I think the bleeding obvious is:

    KAJABI IS NOT READY FOR THE PUBLIC YET

    In theory it looks like a kick ass system and I think it will be, in 12 months, when it's actually ready.

    Kajabi itself is not meant for newbies, there are a few things that tripped me up but I was able to work them out after fiddling around with it but I thought to myself there is no way a newbie would know how to work this system.

    The fact that they could of cut down on the majority of their support requested by simply taking the time to create a fully fledged manual and tutorial series but decided not to staggers me.

    Especially with software!

    I think the thing that most people are really annoyed about is the blatant lying in the marketing. Kajabi simply does not work as advertised.

    It definitely was not ready for public release and I think they are getting exposed by the people who were up and ready to go, like me.

    I actually post-poned a launch so we could do it through the kajabi system but it wasn't even close to being ready to handle a full scale launch.

    I think this was rushed to the market place because the guru's saw dollar signs.

    They had enough social proof with the big names having used it for their launches and they rushed it.

    Andy Jenkins himself says in video boss when talking about product creation, just make it good enough, it doesnt have to be perfect just make it good enough.

    Well kajabi is BARELY good enough.

    Again in theory if it worked like it was advertised and all this "there's a button for that" stuff was actually true it would be the most bad ass system on the planet.

    But the fact is, right now, it's not even close.

    My guess is that it will take a full 12 months to get kajabi working as advertised, thats if it's even still around by then.

    Overall in theory I think it's an awesome system and if it worked as advertised it would be one of the best things for Internet Marketing in a long time.

    The fact is it's not ready yet.

    I'd make sure you know when your refund date expires

    Cheers,
    Tristan
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    • I use to see this a lot in video production. People would postpone important projects in anticipation of a new camera being released.

      What I never could understand is why you'd trust an important project to a new camera when you have a tried and true one you're familiar with?

      To make matters worse some of the cameras were not only new but the systems/workflow they used were new (Panasonic P2) so you end up using a camera and system that is new to everybody depriving you of the sometimes hard earned knowledge of the early adapters.

      I've learned, especially for important projects, to use what I know works. Let the early adapters work out the new technology kinks and I'll come in when it matures a bit.

      Kevin
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    **Update

    After the video loaded and processed I went to preview it..

    The load time was so long I opened another tab and forgot about it.

    Then a couple minutes later it started playing out of nowhere

    I reloaded the page and the same thing happened.

    I deleted my Kajabi account and am no longer a member.

    I wish every one who uses it more success with it than I had and I plan on checking back with Kajabi in 6months after everything settles.

    Gonna play around with Traindom tonight but will probably end up Frankensteining EVP2, Optimizepress and WP Wishlist.
  • That is why I love this forum. If you have any doubts about a product just head on over to the Warrior forum.. for the most part , you guys tell it like it is. Thanks you save me time and expense.
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  • I brought it. This is one of the only big shot launches that actually has good support IMO. I got replies within 24 hours and they were spot on.

    However, it is too confusing and for someone like me who likes to get things done quickly its just not an ideal solution

    Canceled my trial but will probably use it in the future for having coaching programs and stuff in my niche.
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  • I'm hesitant about the one stop shop approach. Kajabi's price is competitive considering what you can do with it; however, what happens if you know longer want to use them? All of a sudden you have a lot of work to try to move your products and services. Who really wants to lose that kind of control. I'd be more interested to pay $1,000 for a standalone license of Kajabi I could install my server, then to risk getting locked into a system where the minute I stop paying, the lights go out.
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    • I was having exactly the same concerns jnm007a. Have you looked at FusionHQ yet? They opened up some new spots last week and I've been impressed with it. They are not close enough with their integration with InfusionSoft for me to be able to use it. (They said IS was coming in the next update, but upon further inquiry with support, it is not in the works yet, so they are refunding my license). They are integrated with some of the popular mail/auto responder services already though. The cost was $997 for the license and the only recurring would be minimal if you choose to use their host for your sites and their mail service. All files are yours to host where you like... And you can use your own mail service. I loved that it was drag and drop design too. I'll likely be back when they integrate with InfusionSoft. I am not an affiliate for them, but just thought you might like to hear my thoughts on another option to Kajabi that meets the desires of those of us who'd rather not pay monthly forever. Oh that license was for unlimited sites and users too.

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