Easy Video Player 2.0

Its for the monthly IM mastermind group, you can cancel it

I saw the same thing - the $97. The membership for the first month is "free" and is $37/mo.

It doesn't say that you can cancel and get a refund o that first month, so that still leaves the question of what happened to the $97 price point.

I got in at the early bird price and there were all kinds of server problems. I didn't see any upsells because I kept getting error pages and only went as far as paying and getting hit with another error page. I got my login details and already installed the script. I did sign up for the 30 day trial of the mastermind group (which I don't have access to). My question is were there any upsells, if there were what were they and what were the prices? For example I see mention of a license where you can get rid of branding. Also is there a URL for the mastermind group to login? I login to my regular account and it doesn't give me a link to the mastermind group. The only reason I'm asking here is because the help desk is swamped. I submitted a ticket yesterday a few hours after buying and still haven't gotten a response.

So far the actual Easy Video Player script is working great. It's actually much easier to use than I expected.

No where in the pitch did it say anything about the player being watermarked
and if you want to remove it, you need to pay for that. That's just plain ludicrous.
And the wording is great... It's positioned not as "Upgrade to remove watermark"
but something totally different in a follow-up email.

Easy Video Play is similar FlowPlayer

Look at the FlowPlayer Website.

The Watermark Free Version = Business Version

The free version of the player comes with a Flowplayer trademark.
It's nothing that will distract your audience,
but if you want to use your own logo, you need a commercial license.
That's it -- the business model of Flowplayer.

Wouldn't be nice to get a complete product, good service, respect in the buying process instead of more aggravation and less quality and everything needs upgraded.. God what a concept.Value and a good buying experience.....novel idea....they want a further $77 for the luxury of not advertising their product...not to mention the first product was free lifetime updates so he renamed the product and is charging for upgrades to previous customers.

The way I understand it is that the commercial license is not only to remove the water mark, but also to grant you license to use EVP for your clients videos.

Without this extended license you can only use EVP for your own videos.

Flowplayer and JW player both being free for non-commercial websites, come with an watermark. The business version with the watermark removed costs. for JW player, it is infact $89/ domain for the commercial license (WOW!).

Anyways, if EVP offers for unlimited domains, I believe it is worth it. At the base it is just flowplayer with lots of flowplayer pluggings, programmed via a web based script. But considering you have to figure out many thing when using flowplayer and specially with the pluggings, EVP can be a real time saver.

But yes, the sales pitch should mention everything and should not confuse people. Saves the hassle of refunds.

WOW!

I bought EVP 2.0 and yep, I was quite surprised too with the undisclosed (in the sales page) branding and continuity (I see the MikeF influence here, and man I dislike some of his sales tactic, as successful as he might be)

Yet this live watermark non-affiliate link goes beyond insulting. I mean at least make the option obvious at the buy now page or something.

He could have charged $197 or $247 and people would have been happy customers. Now he's got pissed ones. I don't know if I'll cancel now honestly. These sales tactics suck. The product is very good, but come one. What's up with all these scumbags tactics lately? Is is really worth it?

Time for me to get a refund. It didn't say anywhere there would be a link to his site with watermarks.

Everyone,

I am going to set the record straight here once, and then I am going to move on.

NEARLY EVERY COMMENT ON THIS THREAD IS SIMPLY WRONG, MISGUIDED AND ILL INFORMED..

It is such a shame, I see and personally know of people who do huge launches, leave their customers in the dirt and move on, not caring about the success they achieve or the product the deliver, and people believe the hype and count them as good guys.. I have broken friendships with marketers based on hearing them say, they actually factor in 50% refund rate in the way they run their launches, they dont care if they give NO customer service, 50% will keep it anyway and they make cash..

In my book, those people are the bad guys, I hate it, I have no time for it and its almost made me leave this industry.

the sad thing is, there is SO much hate and aggression in this industry (rightfully so, thats the sadder part) that people take it out on each other day in day out.. They assume everyone is simply out for their money and its a sad sad day for internet marketing and the Warrior Forum lately.. The people who do these things do ruin our industry, but the people who become hateful at the drop of the hat because of them make it all the more hard.

This thread is so misguided and inaccurate I nearly didnt bother to leave a comment.. But I genuinely care, I put my heart into what I do. If you look at my last WSO for EVP (original WSO) you will see so many people saying its the best product they have ever bought, or I provided the best service they ever had etc. I prove thats the kind of person I am every day.

Now for the FACTS! (Rather than total rubbish which is not connected with reality and are a bunch of peoples angry comments about facts that are not true)

1) EVP1 actually had a BIGGER watermark than EVP2, people are under the impression we added one, we actually just changed it and made it smaller for EVP2. Quite an important point there. (and apparently, getting a smaller watermark for you guys is us being evil.. hmm)

2) The EVP watermark DOES, let me repeat that DOES (!) take your affiliate id (in the settings area) earning you money. We set it up so affiliates can use it. Again, remember, a watermark as always been on the player, this one is just SMALLER.

3) There is NOT a watermark over your videos.
There seems to be a LOT of confusion from people who have not actually used the product....!
Let me confirm. I simply wouldnt do that, its a shame people jump to conclusions on this forum because they believe marketers are all out to just make a fast buck, let me remind you, you dont know me, just because I sell a successful product doesnt make me evil, any of my customers know how much I care about them and my product. I wouldnt do this and ruin peoples videos to put EVP's name there. So, AGAIN, it is NOT over your videos.
The watermark says easyvideoplayer for a MAXIMUM of 2 to 3 seconds while the video loads at the bottom left hand corner. (JUST like the first one did, only it had a larger flowplayer logo)
This is halved what used to be there when we first launched EVP1. We have made it LESS obtrusive for you guys. It may be worth checking that before you start criticising!

4) We represent insane value for money, look at the ACTUAL facts.

The fact is, EVERY video player shows a watermark of some kind.

Lets look at Flowplayer as a comparison (Which EVP's actual player mechanism is based)

Flowplayer offer you an unlimited license to use the player on unlimited sites for $1,450!

We offer you the ability to use the same player core (its the core of our actual player mechanism) AND ALL of the other features in EVP (too many to even count) for $77 upsell. ($204 in total)
Thats right, you get the unlimited license that Flowplayer sell for $1,450 for $204, along with the WHOLE of EVP2. Still think I am trying to rip you off?

That actually represents the best value for money you can buy, for any video player online anywhere. (and our customers know it)

So, if you think thats "shoddy marketing stragegy" giving you a smaller less obtrusive watermark and the cheapest most affordable player that is completely unbranded on the market (before us, you would of had to pay $1,450, now, thanks to us its a $77 upsell) then so be it, you are entitled to your opinion.

As I said, I wont be fuelling this thread which is actually totally inaccurate to the facts with further comments. The facts are above, As you can see, its not exactly how its been painted out to be by people on here jumping to conclusions without actually trying the product and measuring it up.

Look at the hateful comments from a number of people saying *gasp* *Shock* *horror* "wow, he is evil for not letting us use our affiliate links and trying to leak people" -
ACTUAL FACT? We do let you do it, you guys who commented just decided to comment with no idea of what you were talking about. Not a great move.

And yes, if you want to keep EVP1 which also still has a watermark please do so, nobody is forcing you to benefit from the new and improved EVP2. Infact, we are still producing free upgrades for you guys because we like to be cool to you.

Who else does this sort of thing? Creates an entire new product and still rolls out new free upgrades for their older one just to be cool to their customers?

Probably more evidence of our "shoddy marketing strategy" I suppose Alan?

Anyway, everyone have a great day, I will leave this thread alone now and focus on the thousands of very happy customers we have who are loving EVP2.

Everyone who didn't, get your facts right. It is people like you who have meant that I almost certainly wont bother making EVP3.. Why? I don't have the passion to innovate and create amazing cool new features for people who love to hate without even getting the facts right..


Josh

im glad their is a option to credit the affiliates for the commission! I am going to buy this product as the software is amazing!

Is there a option to remove the link in the video's, as i really do not want any outbound links on my salespage.

In future i will not be listening to comment's based on other peoples views that are not proven.

Thanks for telling it like it is Josh. without a doubt this is the most advanced video software available. I am glad you have stated your case with valid points that are OBVIOUSLY backed up.

Thomas,
Want to PM me your phone number so you can talk to me directly when you accuse me of that kind of thing without knowing me?
id be glad to get on a call with you and set you straight and have a chance to actually discuss this so you can see the kind of guy I am, rather than you just TELL me who I am when I dont know you from adam.

Something tells me I wont be getting that PM,

You are telling me I am being underhanded, telling me, not asking, not giving me the chance to defend myself, but telling me.. And we've never spoken before.

My post above proved who I am and I think people can see that..

Are you always so closed minded, arrogant and critical of other people? Do you always jump to conclusions about people you have never met? Would I be here being obviously so angry at what I am being accused of if it was true?

Lets see if I get that PM.. Either way, Thats not how I would treat you without knowing you, I believe in respecting other people and letting them answer for themselves, not attacking them without ever even speaking to them.

Im done commenting on here, I think everyone but you gets exactly who I am and my comment confirmed my intentions.

Good luck in life looking for the worst in people..

I guess the fact you have two infractions on here for insulting people is because the mod who gave it to you is somehow a jerk too right?

I have customers to look after.. Good luck with life.

The flowplayer watermark is also a live link, which is why I have been using that as an example.

What would you have the disclaimer say? The same as flowplayers? Oops... It doesnt have one.....

I think you are nitpicking here. If you are paying so much for traffic and dont want that watermark whilst the video loads, just buy the $77 licence, or alternatively just use your own solution or flowplayers at $95 for a domain or $245 for four domains.